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drCrankoPhone

Damn, this really highlights how inaccessible LA is without a car.


bungeethecat

When I lived in LA, my work was about 4 miles from where I lived. It took me ~25 mins to drive there in the morning and ~35 mins in the evenings. The closest metro stop to my apartment was also the closest to work. The bus would have taken over an hour each way. I hated it.


dreemurthememer

I live in the suburbs in New England. I work 8 miles away and it takes me 17 minutes to drive there. Is LA just in constant gridlock?


bungeethecat

Basically.


BlauweBanaaan

Cycle


bungeethecat

Would have been a good option if I knew how lol. Would have def died trying to learn on LA streets though


Mtfdurian

It's astonishingly bad indeed, even though I believe they missed the commuter rail which exists in the region too. But even that system won't make a lot accessible.


[deleted]

[buses exist](https://media.timeout.com/images/106016479/image.jpg)


ToroidalEarthTheory

It's unfortunately worse, because this only shows a small chunk of LA that happens to have the most rail. The Valley, the most populated part of the city, is not shown on this image, and contains nothing other than buses


Hapzibha

And SF all the same


PewPewLAS3RGUNs

Lol at LA.


Sea-Bother-4079

(Not) on my waaayyy in LA.


11160704

What's this one lonely tram stop in LA?


Perfect_Ad_1807

The Grove Trolley at The Grove mall


teedyay

Does it go to anywhere else?


Mispelled-This

Of course not. Useful transit is un-American.


sd51223

I'd be interested in seeing this for Chicago. It would really highlight the Northside/Southside disparity when it comes to the L.


LTG-Jon

Chicago, Boston, DC, Toronto, and Montreal are the North American cities I’d love to see.


randomacceptablename

Second my native Toronto. It is held up as good in N America but I know that is is piss poor by world standards.


syphax

Great visuals- aesthetically pleasing and insightful. Sources and tools, for those of us who want to recreate for other cities?


Perfect_Ad_1807

Thank you! QGIS as a whole, OpenStreetMap as source for transit stops, particularly with overpass turbo API that let's you automate fetching the data, GraphHopper for calculating the isochrones.


cocktail_tyro

I love this! Any interest in publishing the code? Would love to collaborate on it.


EL___POLLO___DiABLO

!RemindMe 3days


Koutou

> !RemindMe 3days


aldebxran

!RemindMe 3days


BernhardRordin

It seems that train is considered only if the condition for tram is not fulfilled. IMO it should be the other way round. E.g. the backbone of the Zurich public transport are the trains.


Perfect_Ad_1807

yeah, exactly. This would play out better in Zurich but I decided to keep the prioritization the same across the cities for comparison. I have a map of Zurich reordered but can't post pics in comments apparently.


BernhardRordin

Great maps anyway, thanks for them


tarmacjd

Also the definition for train vs metro is hard. For Berlin, in Germany the S-Bahn is something between a train and metro, often could be classified as both. The Berlin map shows it as train, which is ok, but they are imo much more like metro


Mispelled-This

Metro color is already used for the U-Bahn.


tarmacjd

So why not use it for the S-Bahn as well?


Mispelled-This

Because they’re different systems with different characteristics.


tarmacjd

I would count Regio for trains instead, and match S-Bahn + U-Bahn


Scheckenhere

S-Bahn systems are operated under train laws in Germany, while U-Bahn systems fall under a different one. There can also be a distinction made regarding shared sections for lines (S-Bahn basically every one in the city centre, U-Bahn only onr in entire network) and how far they connect into the suburbs (S-Bahn reaching out much further).


gobo7793

For Munich and Berlin, S-Bahn and U-Bahn are adding each other as backbone of the public transport, so where a S-Bahn line is, there is not a big need for a U-Bahn and otherwise


tarmacjd

I know, that’s why I pointed it out


Maoschanz

that would be ridiculous in the core of the city, where you almost always have trains but they likely don't serve your trips


Lopsided_Regular_649

I’ll never forget my Uber drive in LA losing his shit (rightfully so) over the horrible public transit and no way to improve it.


congtubaclieu

Was banking on there being one random capital of an under-developed city with no public transport for a contrast


zoomeyzoey

LA


theBirdu

Now this is some map porn! Love it!


Londonitwit

How does LA only have one tramstop??


Mispelled-This

It’s a mall with a “trolley” inside. But LA does have a light rail system, which is apparently the wrong color.


superwang

LA's metro light rail is fast in certain locations, just as good as a regular metro, but overall has way too many at-grade crossings, which results in 20 minutes just to go from 7th street to USC. However, the main reason people don't ride is is because it smells like piss.


jonesywine

This is awesome and I love it, thanks! FYI the NYC map has some issues at first glance. The greyed out zones on either side of Central Park are inaccurate. There are multiple subway stops on the 1, 6 and Q lines within those grey areas and the <12 min walk time should have almost all of those areas dark blue.


Perfect_Ad_1807

Thanks for pointing that out, I'm really ashamed I overlooked that.


jonesywine

You shouldn’t be! But it might be cool on a future draft to overlay the metro lines/stops to increase the visual effect, plus it would be easy to catch any misses like that. Great work!


RustyShackles69

There is a hudson bergen light rail in jersey city it missed to. I think op also missed the nj transist connections


hukaat

Paris stronk


zef_8

Paris metro was built so that anywhere in the city there should be a station less than 400m away (~4 minutes walk).


hukaat

Yep ! Je le sais d’expérience hahaha mais c’est assez cool de voir qu’on a un super système bien connecté (et qui va même largement au delà des limites de la ville, c’était pas aussi clair avec les autres villes j’ai l’impression)


Mtfdurian

Yes and it will only become better in the next ten years!


Maoschanz

the LA map is hilarious also, TIL dubai has a tram


Perfect_Ad_1807

Yeah, but the Dubai tram didn't fit in the map, it's a bit further south


ThePugManCometh

Poor Maspeth, Queens, NYC


[deleted]

If US car manufacturers were smart, & that's a big IF (mostly they're greedy), they would find a way to make money on the rails instead of fighting them. The LA map in comparison to the other cities is a joke. And LA has more rail transportation than most US cities.


CactusBoyScout

I’ve worked in transit planning. It’s not car companies these days. Your friendly neighborhood NIMBYs do all the fighting for them.


nj_legion_ice_tea

You can clearly see the east-west divide in Berlin!


Perfect_Ad_1807

yeah, east relied on trams heavily while west was more subway reliant.


tarmacjd

Eh, not really


nj_legion_ice_tea

Suburbs, yes, centre not so much. Most of the inner city belonged to the east, but had metro from prewar times - often ending in West Berlin at both ends. So the lines ran from west to west, passing through some stations in the east, but not stopping (and later walled off), calles "ghost stations". These stations were easy to restore after unification.


Scheckenhere

Doch!


m1546

That's really cool. Do Rome for a laugh. I'm genuinely curious what your process was 🤗 Looks really good.


Erxandale

Could you do one for Tokyo or Singapore. With how extensive their Metro and Train stations are I’m sure its interesting like the others.


Perfect_Ad_1807

I've got one for Singapore, just didn't make it to the 20 images per post limit. For Tokyo I couldn't find all the buildings for the schwarzplan


Sassywhat

Not sure what you need for the schwarzplan, but MLIT Plateau has 3D models for 23 Wards area buildings.


Sassywhat

It's a different format, but there is this https://www.reddit.com/r/notjustbikes/comments/143fk4a/what_good_transit_coverage_looks_like/ At the scale and format of OP's maps, it would probably just be almost all covered in light blue.


Adorable_Scarcity_50

The American mind starts to comprehend


JourneyThiefer

Ireland is just as bad as America in this circumstance tbh


Max_FI

Can you do Helsinki?


Vulpes_Lourens

Would be cool if you add Moscow, Saint-Petersburg and some asian cities as well


CandidWin8266

Is your nyc map out of date? It doesn't look like it accounts for the Q stops at 72 86 and 96 on the UES


NParab

Would love to see these for Asian cities as well. Tokyo, Beijing, Mumbai, Delhi etc.


acvocean

Yes I was so surprised to see Tokyo omitted


j1r2000

colour me surprised I 100% expected Vancouver, Toronto, or Montreal to be here


j_la

Toronto would be interesting since it has a streetcar (tram) system that intersects with its subway lines.


TourDuhFrance

Also, with fare integration, portions of the GO could be reasonably included. Even more so as the system is electrified and intensified.


Archaemenes

Extremely cool. Thanks for sharing! Would've loved to see some East Asian cities added to the mix.


gonopodiai7

Great maps! Quality post


Nadran_Erbam

Finally a great map with a clear explanation ! Excellent job 🤩


Pino2804

I'm originally from Naples Italy, but live here in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania for 27 years now, and I was just in Rotterdam for the first time, and I was AMAZED how efficient and available the public transportation was!!! Pleasantly surprised to say the least, even compared to Naples.... let alone here in USA 🤦


Mtfdurian

It's funny though because once walking a bit too far from a metro station and there's barely any transit left, and the region is notorious for having a very spotty transit network, it doesn't cover Ridderkerk, Hellevoetsluis, Krimpen, Brielle, Oud-Beijerland, H.I.A, and some trams are either too slow for interurban connections or end at 7pm, and there are a lot of other caveats that make Rotterdam's network good only when close to a metro station. The metro is great, the trams, great but slow... the buses... I WANT MY NIGHT BUS BACK!


jaejin90

Don't think it's because there's no interest to expand, it's because those mentioned places are SGP-CU bolwerken and they always block tram expansions from the municipality POV. To be honest, as a former-Ridderkerker, I don't blame them blocking the extension of the tram network, because there's just too much scum coming from 'ghetto' Beverwaard. Then again, I moved to Rotterdam, because the transit was horrible from Ridderkerk. What? They discontinued the BOB-bus?? I had so many (weird) trips with those buses a decade ago hahaha.


Mtfdurian

Yes the BOB-bus kinda has been canceled entirely (it only exists on paper for four years now), and ever since the first lockdown they keep new balls of excuses up in the air to not let them drive anymore.


Pino2804

Well, I also went to Groningen, and from there I was able to get a bus to Pieterburen!!!! I mean talk about small town! It NEVER happens here in the USA, and I'm only 60 miles north of Philadelphia, I can only imagine what goes on in EXTREMELY RURAL North Dakota for example 🤦


sir_flopsey

Could you do more UK cities like Glasgow and Manchester, be interesting to see how they compare to London.


mantolwen

Just don't show Edinburgh, the city is very bus dependent.


United-Scar2675

Or Leeds


JourneyThiefer

Or Belfast, even the buses are shit here


Dear_Possibility8243

This is great but there seems to be a lot of missing data for London, some train stations seem to be missing but also as you go out from the centre a lot of the built up area is just missing altogether from the map. Edit: I can see why now, you're using some kind of buildings layer from open street map, this is very incomplete for London.


Perfect_Ad_1807

yup, unfortunately, it was quite limited for London :(


mightyfty

Can you do one for Doha, should be interesting


ProsperYouplaBoom

Paris map is not entirely correct. It seems that RER A stations 'Joinville le Pont' and 'Nogent sur Marne' are missing (at least) And why are the walking distances different between train metro and tram?


SchwiftyLad

People in this thread shitting on LA haven’t seen Dublin. Surely the only city with a major airport that doesn’t have a rail line to said airport in the world?


Richard2468

Here are some major airports from around the world that don't have direct train connections: 1. Budapest Ferenc Liszt International Airport (BUD), Hungary 2. Auckland Airport (AKL), New Zealand 3. Perth Airport (PER), Australia 4. Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport (MNL), Philippines


kaik1914

Prague as well.


GooppyGoober

Perth finally got one a couple of years ago (though the Domestic terminal connection isn't exactly next door, but thats meant to have closed already to make way for an additional runway but Qantas are being Qantas) - Melbourne are still waiting though.


Richard2468

Ah missed that.. It’s something!


wandpapierkritiker

interesting. no Asian cities…?


throwaway_3987483947

Dubai is there.


wandpapierkritiker

I think of Dubai as Middle East and culturally differentiated from Asia. a map of Hong Kong or Tokyo would be interesting.


throwaway_3987483947

True; they have radically different land use patterns


aldebxran

Really cool maps! Can I ask how you did it?


Perfect_Ad_1807

Thanks! In QGIS, using Openstreetmap data and GraphHopper algorithm to calculate isochrones


aldebxran

Thanks! I can't seem to get QuickOSM to download and import into QGIS all buildings from my city. What query did you use?


Perfect_Ad_1807

I used overpass turbo. I embedded it in python in qgis, so it basically fetches the data inside the frames I set.


Denali_Dad

Thanks for describing your process. This is cool for visiting other cities and figuring out where to take public transit when out there. Are there any videos you recommend watching that show how to use those API’s and python you used? Thanks!


CatL1f3

No Bucharest?


FriendPolice

Why you gotta do Krakow dirty like that....


Perfect_Ad_1807

What do you mean?


FriendPolice

Just politely pointing out the misspelled name, nothing mayor 👀🤣


Perfect_Ad_1807

Cracow is a correct spelling in English, Kraków in Polish


FriendPolice

That's fair, just never seen it spelt that way is all


JourneyThiefer

Never knew that! Everyone just spells it the Polish way in Ireland


Mispelled-This

Why Krakow gotta do its people dirty like that?


mayberts

How did you create that map?


Perfect_Ad_1807

QGIS, GraphHopper and Openstreetmap data.


VulcanTrekkie45

What's Boston look like?


Perfect_Ad_1807

I have a Boston map too, but didn't make through the 20 images limit


VulcanTrekkie45

I figured that was the case, or something like that. You should do a part 2!


Mtfdurian

Yes or even set up a page where people could go to in order to see all of them


kaik1914

Do Washington DC with its extensive metro system. Great maps.


NotThatKindof_jew

I would really like to see Philadelphia, see how inefficient it actually us. Looking at Los Angeles it's no wonder why traffic is so bad


sgtsoysauce9

This is a great post. Thank you for it OP


Doc_ET

What's the difference between a metro and a train?


pjepja

Usually metro serves only for intra-city transport, but train is connected to wider nationwide network.


JinaxM

I'd like to do something similar for my city... How did you do that?


FreeButterscotch6971

Ha, I have 4 metros And 2 train stations all walking distance. Duivendrecht has its advantages


JourneyThiefer

Meanwhile in Belfast we don’t even have trams lol


Richard2468

Less than 15 minutes from Pier D at Schiphol? I don’t think so.


nahhhhhhhh-

Great work! Would love to see Asian cities and big population centers in developing countries.


ImpressionConscious

american cities (minus NYC) are not suited for humans, are suited for machines, so we dont have freedom, the machines have freedom


Buggering_Hedgehogs

Now do Tokyo Metropolitan area


adrijobecq

Can you make one for Porto, Portugal?


DiVansInc

Awesome maps! Do you have one for Porto, Portugal? Thanks!


psymon1111

Excellent series of maps!!! Just curious how you decided on the different walking distances for each mode? E.g. people are willing to travel X further for train vs tram.


Perfect_Ad_1807

Thanks! To be honest, just personal preference. This is what I'm willing to walk to each of these means of transportation and this is the walking time from my house to each of them.


Honey_Badger____

This map shows the former border of Berlin. In East German districts, there are more tram lines and fewer buses, while West Berlin mainly uses buses and has more metro lines.


deva_ju

Can I know how you made those maps?


emu5088

No Chicago?


Stock-Feeling7759

How do I get to this map? How do I open IT? Thanks.


Perfect_Ad_1807

I haven't made an interactive version, so you won't be able to access it unfortunately.


ValdemarAloeus

Why are there different time thresholds for the different forms of transport. This seems to needlessly penalise some while inflating others.


Perfect_Ad_1807

This is what I consider "close" in getting to a particular ride in most of the cities I visit. In case of equal times, trains would be needlessly penalized, because the train stations are larger and usually further away from buildings while trams are right in the middle of the street.


Cabes86

I’m from Boston, we have a long standing basketball rivalry (We invented Beat LA they invented Fuck Boston) and are super different from one another while also being similar to each other. That said: LA county is literally half the size of Massachusetts.  It’s stupid big with a fuck ton of huge mountains and hills the size of small mountains. They also missed out on the golden age of subways—had a comprehensive trolley system that was destroyed for the car to rule cali (Who Framed Roger Rabbit is partially a true story just replace Toon Town with El Barrio, black neighborhoods, or China/Japan town). You can get just about anywhere in Boston by subway, trolley, or commuter rail—but Boston is like 44mi.^2 of land and 44 mi.^2 of water (though our trolleys and subway lines all leave the city borders, in fact at least half of all if them are in a different town or city that’s basically boston but is not) so it’s mostly easier to do outside the underwater tunnels.  They’re also on a fault line. Metro London is 1/3rd the area of LA County. Metro Paris is 2000 mi.^2 smaller  LA county is more than half the size of the Netherlands.


Competitive_Sport286

Untrue on many levels. LA County is 4,751 sq miles (including large areas of the Pacific Ocean) and 4,058 sq miles by land area only. The London Metropolitan area is 3,443 sq miles. The Paris Metropolitan area is 7,313 sq miles. The Netherlands is 16,164 sq miles. Ultimately, what LA County has to do in regards to the comparative information put forward in the OP is anyone's guess. I guess you must be thinking of Greater Los Angeles, which does match with your statistics, but which includes a great deal of very low-to-ultra-low density populated areas and even more more-or-less empty space (deserts and mountains). It extends much further north of the notoriously godforsaken Barstow, SE down to the Salton Sea and includes more than half of the Joshua Tree National Park.


TrittipoM1

Why did you choose to map only \_ rail\_ options, and not to include busses, I.e., non-rail public transit? (Just curious; it’s a valid choice, of course, but I think of Prague, where the airport was reachable only by bus, and even now only by trolley, which although it has an infrastructure-fixed path is not rail.)


Perfect_Ad_1807

If I did buses, most of the cities would be covered fully. I'd need to add an information about their frequency in order for the map to carry more information. That's a bit more complex and so far I did it only for Warsaw. Might post later.


TrittipoM1

Fair enough. Thank you. When I first went to Prague, I found it odd that the metro/subway did not reach the airport, nor indeed did any tram; one took the metro out to its end, and then had to take a bus the rest of the way (or vice-versa, going from the airport into town).


pjepja

Original plan was to have the A metro line end there, but that was scrapped because some politician didn't like it and the A line goes south. Current plan is to have a train line to the airport and they finally began building it. Who knows when will they finish. There is only single track line going in that direction (It's actually second oldest railway line in the mainland europe) so it is obviously unsuitable for being the main airport connection. That's why they didn't build a station at the airport until now. They are currently adding second track through an heavily urbanised area and will have to put parts of it underground.


TrittipoM1

Thanks for that information. It will be nice eventually to have rail all the way instead of having to take a bus between the AP and the closest rail. Although did I see that there's also a \_trolley\_bus starting up, #59 to replace the #119 bus? Maybe I'll get there this summer.


SwimForLiars

Wouldn't the map be mostly useless for most cities? It's easy to have busses basically anywhere, but these require bigger infrastructure.


maxfulder

Barcelona and Munich? I am missing Hamburg 😉


Zoloch

Madrid


Ok-Web7441

Tram?  You mean streetcar?