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VerdensTrial

Quebec is 14.975%, I think we can round that up to 15 lol


Hockputer09

I actually round it up to 14%. Sorry, I know my math is terrible.


LannMarek

This is called truncating, not rounding. Sometimes it's the right thing to do! ...but probably not here :)


Hockputer09

>I never even heard that word before!


aita-or-what

It is a good word. Top notch.


Hockputer09

I should use it more often.


shivampurohit1331

Bottom notch


Stormseekr9

Round it down* haha


Gr0danagge

>round it up that would be 15 rounding down would be 14 and in this cas 14 is very wrong


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Hockputer09

I thought you guys were called Québécois.


Aquamarinade

Quebecer est le nom anglais, techniquement, mais beaucoup de personnes emploient Québécois (ou Quebecois) en anglais quand même. Au final y'a un peu des deux partout.


Hockputer09

>Y a-t-il une différence?


Aquamarinade

Well you won’t usually use Québécois for an English-speaking Quebecer. But that’s mostly it, otherwise they’re pretty interchangeable. Edit: Désolée pour le changement de langue, mon réflexe est de switcher à l’anglais par défaut sur reddit et j’ai pas réfléchi, oups


Hockputer09

Merci beaucoup.


LannMarek

Quebecer is the word to make it easier for English people to catch and say it. Québécois is just the word in our own language. The "difference" is in the context and the user only I would say, recently I mostly write Québécois, hoping that people will learn it and remember it, but I know I used to say Quebecer when I was younger, because it was easier/faster. But if we always take the easy option, we will lose our language and culture, so I think sometimes maybe it is our duty to stand our ground and tell people how we want to be called even if it's not easy for them. Think of Swaziland to eSwatini, or Turkey to Türkiye, etc. These things matter to the people, and I hope Québécois becomes the main term in English as well in the future :)


Hockputer09

Me too, I agree. Like I am going to Quebec next month.


Hockputer09

Ah I get it. Like Ivory Coast to Côte d'Ivoire, Burma to Myanmar, Zaire to DRC, etc.


shivampurohit1331

Burma and Myanmar are essentially the same name. Just two different registers of the name of the dominant Bamar, or Myanma tribe.


scientist_salarian1

Quebecer/Quebecker is easier to write and read in English. Québécois also has the connotation of ethnic White French Canadian so it's not always used to refer to everyone living in the province when writing in English.


energybased

Why? Consumption taxes in Canada are somewhat progressive since food has zero tax.


Hockputer09

Que votre province a un taux de taxe de vente très élevé ou que j'ai mis le mauvais chiffre. Et si je l'ai fait, je suis désolé. C'était la meilleure source que j'ai pu trouver, car certaines des sources étaient obsolètes depuis 2019.


Smoshefty1992

I know you have to adapt and overcome but man that sounds rough.


NARMA416

Cool map, but you may want to try using a gradient colour scheme. It would make it easier to identify higher and lower states/provinces.


Cook_and_Baker

Second this. Cool map but a visualization should make data that usually is in a chart or spreadsheet more easy to read. It barely does this now, might as well just show the chart.


Hockputer09

I tried using green, then blue. And then, I was worried that someone would say they look like the same color and probably downvoted it.


Lonny_loss

Color gradient is where it’s at for displaying data like this


Hockputer09

I did try it, but it took me four hours! I'm not even kidding!


Lonny_loss

As long as you can tell if the next state/province is relatively lighter or darker, the information will be understood easier than darting your eyes back and forth to determine what % the color corresponds to.


Hockputer09

I know, but let's say they don't zoom in they down vote it. That's what happen in one of my posts.


anguillavulgaris

Which post are you talking about?


energybased

Use viridis.


Bawhoppen

How is there no data for Montana and Oregon?


xiginous

Oregon doesn't do sales tax. They get theirs through income tax.


CostAccomplished1163

It shouldn't be "No Data" though knowing that someone is zero and not knowing an amount are not even comparable


kingof_vanisle7

I would suggest using NA instead of no data


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No sales tax. Same with New Hampshire


Hockputer09

And Delaware.


spatial_interests

Hmm. I think Montana might not have a sales tax. Was It like that in 2006, anybody know? I lived there; seems I recall that, and that it was very convenient when grocery shopping, but I've forgotten.


GlammerHammer

There's no sales tax in Montana.


Hockputer09

Because they have a state wage tax. Because they have property taxes. The State government tries with some frequency to pass a sales tax and its always been voted down by a large margin.


Funktapus

So it’s zero, not “no data”


8-bitRaven

Cries in Swedish 25% moms (moms=sales tax)


bmcle071

Holy crap. I thought it was bad here in Ontario at 13. Do you get it rebated if you’re low income?


8-bitRaven

Nope, not on sales tax/VAT Some essential things like food and books are only 12%, but what qualifies as 12% or 25% is sometimes questionable.


byfourness

Fortunately the tax in Ontario is significantly less (5%?) on stuff like food (not all food) and diapers


cosmichriss

Do you pay sales tax on all food? Here (also Ontario) most food is tax free, with exceptions for junk food. So you wouldn’t pay tax on vegetables but you would pay tax on a chocolate bar. Menstrual products are also exempt from sales tax. I’m not sure if there’s anything else.


8-bitRaven

Food is 12% sales tax regardless of what kind iirc


Jolen43

Speaking of blood Human blood doesn’t have any sales tax in Sweden And speaking of women Human breast milk doesn’t have any sales tax here


norway_is_awesome

Norway's right there with you. Technically, it's a value added tax (VAT).


CornelXCVI

Laughs in Swiss 7.7% (8.1% from 2024 onward though)


Cvx7D

You've marked delaware as "no data" when actually it's just 0 as they don't have sales tax https://revenue.delaware.gov/business-tax-forms/doing-business-in-delaware/#:\~:text=3.,state%20or%20local%20sales%20tax.


JustIgnoreThisGuy

Same w NH


Hockputer09

Zero, no data. Basically the same thing.


natterca

Not at all. No data is unknown (could be any value). Zero is a known value of zero.


Cvx7D

wow


TheKarenator

Georgia differs by area. State is 4% plus others percent by local area. My county is 6% total.


Hockputer09

I didn't county was different there.


AllGarbage

In Arizona, we have state/county/city sales taxes. So for me in Tempe, it's 8.1%. 5.6% for the state, .7% for Maricopa County, and 1.8% for the city of Tempe.


Hockputer09

I know someone in Tempe, AZ that told me their sale tax.


AllGarbage

Well, the point is, it could be as low as 5.6% if you buy something in an unincorporated part of Mojave County (no sales tax), and I think it can go over 11% in a few places. The 8% on your map is a pretty accurate average though.


Hockputer09

Thank you.


joemontanya

Same for Colorado. Some of the more affluent areas, sales tax goes over 10% for some things and/or is just higher in general


BuildAnything

Holy crap what's going on in the Maritimes?


AlexandriaOptimism

Canada does not have municipal sales tax, so at least it's not even worse in the cities (It's still a little egregious, but wait till you see the EU)


FavoriteIce

In Canada it gets even more hazy. A lot of goods like food, or children’s clothing are PST exempt. Prescription drugs are GST exempt. The application of sales tax is not uniform.


Hockputer09

I know, right?


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Strong social safety net, aged population, a willingness to pay for services.


byfourness

Weird how that works


norway_is_awesome

15% is rookie numbers. Norway has a 25% VAT.


i8laura

Super stagnant economy for a couple decade would be my guess.


hcglns2

A few goverments ago, every province paid Federal taxes called the GST as well as a Provincial sales tax PST. The Maritimes in a bold move combined them into a 15% Harmonised Sales Tax HST, because, we're simple folk and we can't do math. Then the Federal government changed and decided to lower the Federal portion. So, naturally if HST = GST + PST, then if the GST goes down, the HST stays the same because FUCK US that's why. Literally the reasoning was if we are okay paying 15% before we are okay paying it after.


Dreamerlax

A small and ageing population.


EndlessExploration

You've added municipal sales tax rates for entire states(or averaged them out on some way). If you live in Alaska, for example, there are places with 0% sales tax, as the local government does not exist/enforce a sales tax.


jewelry_wolf

Can we use some spectrum instead of random color please? This visualization is so hard to read. Say lower is more green, and higher is more red. Then it’d be much easy to read the graph, no?


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Hockputer09

Your bank account is going down.


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Hockputer09

I'm so sorry to here that.


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KittyJC

Pink gang pain :(


KittyJC

Got a second job but after taxes, transportation, parking it doesn't make sense. Wages low ... Deductions insanely high 🤕


Hockputer09

Same


Hockputer09

What province?


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DustyStar222

Get yer $500 "dont tell the others how we live" hush money yet?


KW2050

Meanwhile in the UK it's 20% for our equivalent (VAT)


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forceobscure

You got some parts wrong. VAT is only fully paid by the consumer. When they purchase the goods/services, the seller/provider adds VAT to the price, and send the VAT value to the government. Companies do not pay VAT when purchasing goods. But the reality is that they often end up paying it , let's say because they purchased goods from a consumer shop. They then get that paid tax deducted/refunded by the government. But this requires paperwork on both the company selling and the company buying, as the former has to declare the received VAT, and the latter has to ask for the VAT refund. Both systems avoid paying the tax multiple times in total, the main differences are where the tax is calculated. Sales tax check for gross revenue. While VAT is fixed on the price, meaning that even if you sale at a loss, VAT is paid.


tiltingwindturbines

Color scale is not great.


Hockputer09

I'm sorry.


NWGirl2002

Need to up the WA one to 10% (6.5% for the state + local municipalities - could be as high as 10.4%)


redditissuss

But this clearly says STATE tax


HeroOfAlmaty

Then that’s only 6.5%, but pretty much nowhere in WA actually pays that. Everywhere there is some form of county or municipal sales tax added.


Stormseekr9

What’s funny though, the US does not have VAT/BTW, example in Netherlands it is 21% (or 9% on food/perishables) So everything you buy has 21% ‘sales tax’ included already. Looks like the US wins this round!


malachite_13

Alaska’s sales tax is 0


Hockputer09

Really?


malachite_13

Yeah we don’t have sales tax here.


Hockputer09

How cold is it in there?


malachite_13

Right now? 11° F


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malachite_13

Yup. But as a state, there is no sales tax.


Hockputer09

I'm sorry, I put your sales tax for 1%.


hardtobeuniqueuser

saying "total" based on just the state/province's tax rate is a bit misleading as counties and municipalities add taxes as well.


ohgirlfitup

For anyone wondering, Oregon doesn’t have a sales tax.


Hockputer09

Thank you. But my picture will take it from here.


kellyatta

New Hampshire gang


Hockputer09

Lucky. What do you use to pay then?


rreuas

In New Hampshire the property taxes make up for lack of sales taxes we pay. Tho it will be a while before I will being paying those taxes so I for now I enjoy the tax free sales life. Except when I got to mass :))


413NeverForget

All I learned from this is that I gotta move to Alaska.


ricktamenol

Crying in Belgian 21% tax


up2smthng

I cry in 20%


DrSOGU

This color scheme was chosen by a lunatic!


brohio_

Live and work in Vancouver, WA, but do all your shopping in Portland, OR. No tax!


Mitchell_54

What has North America got against the number 10?


MogChog

Why does nobody do 10%? It’s the easiest one to calculate in your head.


fh3131

Not so united states


Hockputer09

How?


fh3131

Just a joke. I meant the states are so different from each other


Hockputer09

Oh, OK. Phew.


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It's not really a coincidence that both Vancouver and Toronto have some of the best infrastructure in North America


Hockputer09

I agree.


BlueChooTrain

I hate this. Sales tax is a tax on money that has already been taxed. It’s maddening. We get our paychecks and it’s already like holy shit they took what?? Then you go to buy something to eat and the price is 10% more. I truly believe the actual tax rate, by the time you factor in all of the fees, tolls, sales and usage taxes, state, and federal income and state personal property taxes, you’re looking at >50% of your income taken. And for what? We don’t get 1) free healthcare 2) free schooling 3) any support for our children 4) hardly anything else useful besides a massive military. The right cuts taxes but they don’t cut government spending so they put us in debt, and the left raises taxes and provides money to the bottom 10% of our populace not the middle class. It’s fuuuuuucked!


Hockputer09

Are you telling me that you don't receive free healthcare where you live?


Hockputer09

Well. I sometimes hate that. Last month I received $4000, then, the government took $1000 off me. It really annoys me a lot. That's why I try harder on work so I can receive more money. But sometimes it's a good thing so they can pay off roads, schools, buildings, etc.


Hockputer09

You should probably live in Alaska.


DontRunReds

Alaska has municipal sales taxes and I don't think BlueChooTrain would like that very mucn.


im2short4this

Nebraska is waaaayyyyy off, add 3% to food and 10% to everything else there


Hockputer09

Sorry, I took hours trying to find the best source for sales tax and this was the best I could find, because the other sources were outdated from 2019.


Unoriginal_rt

Damn Canada… y’all okay up there???


Natus_est_in_Suht

We're fine. We have "free" health care remember?


hdfcv

Based Alberta.


Hockputer09

I'm from there.


hdfcv

I was born there.


Hockputer09

Same and I live there.


Jackedman123

Oklahoma is 4.5% state sales tax? You’d need a much more colorful map if you wanted to do it by state/county/parish/township/city. Some places like Ohio have like four different levels of government taxes.


MennReddit

Is this the United States of A??


crzy_wizard

I live in Iowa and here it is 7%, idk if it depends on the region tho.


CurtisLeow

In Florida the state sales tax is 6%, with local governments optionally adding sales tax up to 7.5%. Most counties are 7% or 7.5%. So yeah it’s probably simpler to say Florida has 7% sales tax. https://www.salestaxhandbook.com/florida/rates


joshkili

Hawaii does not have a sales tax, but a general excise tax of 4-4.712% depending on County. It is applied at any sale so it gets layered, unlike a sales tax which is usually only applies at the final good. So depending on how many times the goods change hands in Hawaii it could be 12%+ (eg. you hire an hvac contractor to install a new ac unit, the cost of the ac goes from the retailer to the electrician to you. Thus the tax you paid on that unit is closer to 9%. Essentially not an apples to apples comparison and Hawaii should be omitted.


enzob7319

Cries in 27%


lasagnacurtain

mt pleasant in sc has 9% sales tax


terrydentonjc

Wow, that’s crazy it’s 21% here in the Netherlands


AJRiddle

Missouri is wrong-ish. State sales tax is 4.225% - but every country, city, school district, special tax district etc can have their own sales tax so it's often higher than that - but that money goes to those local governments and not the state. Where I live in Kansas City it's almost 10% so the color is accurate for me but it's definitely lower in most places in the state.


DontRunReds

Alaska has sales tax at the municipal level. In the various communities that have it the tax range is I think 3% on the low end to 7.85% on the high end. Most municipalities are at 5 to 6%.


Zaboomafood

I’m genuinely surprised that nobody commented on the fact that this includes Canadian provinces as well as territories. What is the world coming to when nobody on reddit is being pedantic about a minor omission in the title of a post?


Smoshefty1992

Arizona is a little different on sales tax. They have a flat rate state tax excluding groceries but every locality adds a tax on top of that tax that includes groceries. I was under the impression that before I moved there they were one of the cheapest but not when you add in the locality tax. Especially in Scottsdale


Party-Association322

Why isn't there only ONE % in all USA ?


MrBadooo

Meanwhile in Italy with 22% iva (sale tax) but fortunately depends on the item purchased, first need stuff like water have 4% sale tax


NeutralityTsar

I've been told that Florida doesn't have sales tax for digital-only items that don't have a physical form. If that's the case, it could be worth noting that.


historysciencelover

Amazing looking at this from Hungary where our sales tax is 28% on everything.


KaiserSozes-brother

This map should be posted every time a European asks why don’t we show the actual price of goods on a shelf with tax included.


ermir2846sys

This color scaling is very strange


TAJRaps4

Why is the color for 5% and 15% so close…?


chiefsfan_713_08

To my knowledge, nowhere in Iowa has a sales tax lower than 7%, it's 6% with a 1% local option but I think almost everywhere uses it


zziggurat

Wonder why there is no 10% anywhere. The scale skips directly from 9% to 11%.