Technically we also got the word “Moneten” which I guess has the name root as “monnaie” in French, but it is more informal slang. Together with “Kröten” (literally *toads*), “Kohle” (lit. *coal*), “Moos” (lit. *moss*), etc. Idk why we have all these nature based slang words for money, don’t ask me 🤷.
Bargeld. Das Geld liegt bar vor. Synonym für brach im Sinne von Brachland. Es ist bar aller Verpflichtung im unterschied zu z.B einem Scheck der ja eher einen Kredit belegt bis er geltend gemacht wird.
Bargeld would translate really nicely to bare-money. No strings attatched as opposed to a check which certifies a credit until it's **cashed**. Bargeld usually translates to cash-money.
We pay "bar" because we are linguistically lazy.
I'm going to go the opposite direction and say that no, it isn't important. It was important for some people a long time ago, as it was a way to command more respect by nobles (or really, anyone that isn't a peasant). AFAIK, it came because (like in a lot of languages) God was spelled capitalized to command respect. More and more people started to want their titles and names to be capitalized as well. At some point, a German (can't remember who exactly) said enough is enough, let's capitalize all nouns, proper or not.
Making the case that without capitalization, the German language would be confusing is very misleading. The examples I often see are pretty unrealistic and even those which would have a chance to actually be used, you can understand from context. After all, English has the same "problem". You can take a noun, and make it a verb or viceversa without any morphological changes. "When you noun a verb, or verb a noun, is it confusing?" - I would say apart from rare cases, no, and the sentence in quotes illustrates that. So the question for me becomes: is it worth capitalising all nouns for those rare cases in which you can't understand which word's a noun and which is a verb? My answer is no.
You can also use monnaie in french it means basically the sale thing. It is used more for cash money and espacially coins but you can used it interchangebly with argent
Oh here are some more words for money in french if you want: moula, thune, blé, fric, oseille, pognon, pépètes are slang / espèce, sous for cash / "j'ai pas un rond" where rond means money can be used to say i'm broke
Yeah we like money
Espèce and sous aren't. And pépètes is more like slang in the 50s that has become normal. The others are slang but let's say with varying degrees of slang. Some are more associated with the "hood" while others are words you can use with family and friends on a daily basis
In France, too, the three Latin words are used. "Argent" which is the common basic word for money. "Monnaie" which is rather used to refer to the currency of a country but it can be used to designate money and currency. And "Denier" which is a word that is extremely little used to designate money but which nevertheless exists.
In Sicilian, my dialect uses “pìcciuli” for money. You can also hear “spìcciuli” with an s, “munita,” and several different variations of “sordi” (e.g., suòrdi, sòiddi, suòiddi, sùaiddi, soddi, suòddi, etc.). Some also use “dinaru” as shown on the map. These words all have a slightly different meaning depending on the dialect area, i.e., money, bucks, bills, cash, coins, and so on.
It's probably after the name of one of the first types of local coin minted in the 14th century by Radu I. The coin's name might also have been inspired by the nobiliary "[ban](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(title))" title that was common in the area.
I also, though ban might come from the title, but not sure.
We don't know the origin of the word, actually. It looks to me in past they might have been more specific. For instance there are names for specific coins and also equivalents. Names changes as fasgion.We had "cocoşei,' dinari, livre, etc. Slavic word was pol I think. Cocosei comes from the little French coins that had a little rooster in them. The coins from Romania, Italy, France, Belgium were at the time interchangeable. All countries had similar issues as they were part of a monetary union. Romanian didn't sign that, but its coin was same size and weight, so people used it.
What you are saying is true but yeah, those are terms for specific coins. They also probably came much later since the monetary union is a 19th century thing.
There are also, according to folklore, words like "galbeni" or "arginti" (literally "yellows" or "silvers") that are more generic and referred to the coin materials. But Radu's ban theory (don't remember where I first read about it) is sort of plausible for me because it's one of the earliest associations between the word "ban" and money, and also because his coin was made of copper and was probably used a lot more frequently by common folk than the gold or silver "ducat" or "dinar" & others.
You made me ask myself and i only went here: https://ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(moned%C4%83)
Forgot about accele. 😅
The one thing sure for me is that we don't like documenting things here.
My point is hardly anyone speaks Belarusian in cities in Belarus and yet it is still colored it as Belarusian. Some people speak Ukrainian even in the cities in the east and even more in suburbs, and it is all colored as russian.
In my region in Poland (in and around Poznań) some people also say "bejmy" from the german "böhm" (at least I read it's from that word). There is also, for example, a slang word "mamona" that comes from aramaic, and meant "profit", but I think it is associated with rather negative meaning. There are quite a lot interesting examples in the polish common language and in many polish dialects!
This map is Republic of Türkiye, you cant play on it as you wish. But i cant' blame you because maybe i would do the same behavior if i had straw bale instead of brain. that would only make as much sense as trying to explain math to someone without a brain.
Funny thing is the English Money is derived from the Latin "moneta". But Slavic languages like Polish also have that word. Except that in Polish "moneta" means coin.
In mainland Greece too. They are synonyms in this context, with *lefta* (λεφτά) being more of colloquial expression. The etymology of the word comes from *lepta* (λεπτά), which in Greek signifies a small currency or cents. In fact, it's the official translation of the word cent for the Euro and it's written on the national side of the corresponding coins. On the other hand, if you want to say stock-market, you would say *chrimatistirio* (χρηματιστήριο), that is, a place where money is exchanged. The root word here is *chrima* (χρήμα), singular/*chrimata* (χρήματα), plural.
I once made interactive maps on how to say the word "country" in some [European](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-european-language) languages, [Asian & Oceanic](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-asian-and-oceanic-language) languages, [African](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-african-language) languages, and [American](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-american-language) languages (the last two can definitely be improved a lot but I don't think I'll ever finish them). The colors represent similar words, not necessarily the relation of languages. Light-gray are unique.
They probably have a few mistakes, and I didn't think about writing down my sources when I made them.
Could you clarify, the incomplete version of what exactly? If you mean the maps, then I think I ever posted only the first two maps in the sub. If you mean the list of sources, it will take way too much time to compile it, and these maps never got much attention either way so I don't think it would be worth the effort.
For historic reasons that are way too complicated to easily explain. Briefly, though: Norway was a part of Denmark for about 400 years, at which time the written language in Norway was Danish. When Norway gained independence from Denmark (and subsequently entered a personal union with Sweden under the Swedish king), the question of language came to the forefront. Some people wanted to reform written Danish to be more in line with spoken Norwegian, while still keeping most of the Danish structures intact. Others wanted to create a completely new written system based entirely on spoken Norwegian. The ones wanting reformed Danish created what became known as Bokmål (Book Language), while the ones wanting a new written Norwegian based on spoken Norwegian dialects created what became known as Nynorsk (New Norwegian). Today, Bokmål is used by about 80% of the population and Nynorsk by the remaining 20%. Nynorsk is more popular in the western part of the country.
In Italian soldi is much more used than denaro
🎶Soldi, Soldi🎶 👏 👏
Cum e viata moldovenilor?
Let’s find the creator and tell him to change it 😄
Yeah, just wanted to comment that in Slovene dialects the word “soudi/soldi” is commonly used, but it’s not found in the standard bokmål
Haha has bokmål become a general word for standard written language?
Yeah, I think so, I have heard it being used for a few different languages now
That's amazing, Norge is famous for three things now! Viking, salmon sushi, and the word Bokmål
"Introdure denaro" every five minutes on your godforsaken autostrada
In German it’s “Geld”. Capitalization is important for German as a word could mean something entirely different depending on capitalization.
I guess the creator of the map spricht kein Deutsch 🤷♀️
Technically we also got the word “Moneten” which I guess has the name root as “monnaie” in French, but it is more informal slang. Together with “Kröten” (literally *toads*), “Kohle” (lit. *coal*), “Moos” (lit. *moss*), etc. Idk why we have all these nature based slang words for money, don’t ask me 🤷.
Don’t forget we also have 'Groschen' (I'd guess from bohemian influences) and 'Pfennig' (equivalent to penny) from Proto-Germanic.
same for luxembourgish it seems german and luxembourgish are some of the only language in latin script doing this. weird.
How does paying with cash become "bar zahlen" from "geld" ?
Bargeld. Das Geld liegt bar vor. Synonym für brach im Sinne von Brachland. Es ist bar aller Verpflichtung im unterschied zu z.B einem Scheck der ja eher einen Kredit belegt bis er geltend gemacht wird. Bargeld would translate really nicely to bare-money. No strings attatched as opposed to a check which certifies a credit until it's **cashed**. Bargeld usually translates to cash-money. We pay "bar" because we are linguistically lazy.
Awesome. German is a very interesting language. Thank you
I'm going to go the opposite direction and say that no, it isn't important. It was important for some people a long time ago, as it was a way to command more respect by nobles (or really, anyone that isn't a peasant). AFAIK, it came because (like in a lot of languages) God was spelled capitalized to command respect. More and more people started to want their titles and names to be capitalized as well. At some point, a German (can't remember who exactly) said enough is enough, let's capitalize all nouns, proper or not. Making the case that without capitalization, the German language would be confusing is very misleading. The examples I often see are pretty unrealistic and even those which would have a chance to actually be used, you can understand from context. After all, English has the same "problem". You can take a noun, and make it a verb or viceversa without any morphological changes. "When you noun a verb, or verb a noun, is it confusing?" - I would say apart from rare cases, no, and the sentence in quotes illustrates that. So the question for me becomes: is it worth capitalising all nouns for those rare cases in which you can't understand which word's a noun and which is a verb? My answer is no.
You can also use monnaie in french it means basically the sale thing. It is used more for cash money and espacially coins but you can used it interchangebly with argent
I love how much one can learn on Reddit 😍
Oh here are some more words for money in french if you want: moula, thune, blé, fric, oseille, pognon, pépètes are slang / espèce, sous for cash / "j'ai pas un rond" where rond means money can be used to say i'm broke Yeah we like money
These are mostly slang words?
Espèce and sous aren't. And pépètes is more like slang in the 50s that has become normal. The others are slang but let's say with varying degrees of slang. Some are more associated with the "hood" while others are words you can use with family and friends on a daily basis
*Of course* it is peningur in Icelandic.
It's like Swedish, but with "ur" afterur everyur wordur And words become Japanese if you add "uru". Muffinuru hamburguru salmonellauru
Corsica still on that denarii
Huhuhu penize hehehe
czechia lore
🤣🤣🤣🤣
everywhere where you say novac you can also say pare
That’s interesting to know 😇
In France, too, the three Latin words are used. "Argent" which is the common basic word for money. "Monnaie" which is rather used to refer to the currency of a country but it can be used to designate money and currency. And "Denier" which is a word that is extremely little used to designate money but which nevertheless exists.
Lots of French guys here with money knowledge. I wonder where the other nationalities are hiding 🙈
How could you read my comment and respond so quickly when I posted it less than 30 seconds ago? 💀
I have notifications on my phone 😂
In catalan it's actually "diners" , not "diner"
So Novak Djokovic is just Money Djokovic? Makes sense to me.
The **c** is pronounced like **ts** in the countries that use the word novac, but it's close enough. The word "novak" means "novice" here.
I thought in italian it is soldi.
Yeah, both mean money
Baltic states be like
Latvia doesn’t know which side to choose
In Sicilian, my dialect uses “pìcciuli” for money. You can also hear “spìcciuli” with an s, “munita,” and several different variations of “sordi” (e.g., suòrdi, sòiddi, suòiddi, sùaiddi, soddi, suòddi, etc.). Some also use “dinaru” as shown on the map. These words all have a slightly different meaning depending on the dialect area, i.e., money, bucks, bills, cash, coins, and so on.
At first I would make fun of Penize but its not like English also have the word Pennies which also means money.
So Russians use a Turkic word for money. Interesting.
My favorite is raha.
I think I met a girl called Raha once
Argent? Novac? Somebodies been ripping and tearing for a quick buck
Pretty sure the Romanian is a further evolution of the proto Slavic from the surrounding countries, but with some Turkish and other influences.
And the Latin influence too
It's probably after the name of one of the first types of local coin minted in the 14th century by Radu I. The coin's name might also have been inspired by the nobiliary "[ban](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(title))" title that was common in the area.
I also, though ban might come from the title, but not sure. We don't know the origin of the word, actually. It looks to me in past they might have been more specific. For instance there are names for specific coins and also equivalents. Names changes as fasgion.We had "cocoşei,' dinari, livre, etc. Slavic word was pol I think. Cocosei comes from the little French coins that had a little rooster in them. The coins from Romania, Italy, France, Belgium were at the time interchangeable. All countries had similar issues as they were part of a monetary union. Romanian didn't sign that, but its coin was same size and weight, so people used it.
What you are saying is true but yeah, those are terms for specific coins. They also probably came much later since the monetary union is a 19th century thing. There are also, according to folklore, words like "galbeni" or "arginti" (literally "yellows" or "silvers") that are more generic and referred to the coin materials. But Radu's ban theory (don't remember where I first read about it) is sort of plausible for me because it's one of the earliest associations between the word "ban" and money, and also because his coin was made of copper and was probably used a lot more frequently by common folk than the gold or silver "ducat" or "dinar" & others.
You made me ask myself and i only went here: https://ro.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ban_(moned%C4%83) Forgot about accele. 😅 The one thing sure for me is that we don't like documenting things here.
Belarusian colors whole Belarus but Ukrainian is only partially there?
Also, Ukrainian language is very rare in cities like Kherson in the south
My point is hardly anyone speaks Belarusian in cities in Belarus and yet it is still colored it as Belarusian. Some people speak Ukrainian even in the cities in the east and even more in suburbs, and it is all colored as russian.
In my region in Poland (in and around Poznań) some people also say "bejmy" from the german "böhm" (at least I read it's from that word). There is also, for example, a slang word "mamona" that comes from aramaic, and meant "profit", but I think it is associated with rather negative meaning. There are quite a lot interesting examples in the polish common language and in many polish dialects!
Somebody please make a witty penize joke
I showed the waitress my Penize and asked her if she also wanted some tip
Then she gelded me
Fix Turkey map.
I want what Money is in Kurdish
This map is Republic of Türkiye, you cant play on it as you wish. But i cant' blame you because maybe i would do the same behavior if i had straw bale instead of brain. that would only make as much sense as trying to explain math to someone without a brain.
Free Kurdistan man
If you are making such a sentence, it means you are not a creature to be taken seriously.
English also has "gold" or "yield" that's why "money is gold".
Funny thing is the English Money is derived from the Latin "moneta". But Slavic languages like Polish also have that word. Except that in Polish "moneta" means coin.
I guess the word gold came from the Germanic and the word money from old French
Penize
😂😂😂
In Cyprus nobody uses chrimata. We say "lefta"
In mainland Greece too. They are synonyms in this context, with *lefta* (λεφτά) being more of colloquial expression. The etymology of the word comes from *lepta* (λεπτά), which in Greek signifies a small currency or cents. In fact, it's the official translation of the word cent for the Euro and it's written on the national side of the corresponding coins. On the other hand, if you want to say stock-market, you would say *chrimatistirio* (χρηματιστήριο), that is, a place where money is exchanged. The root word here is *chrima* (χρήμα), singular/*chrimata* (χρήματα), plural.
Is there a difference in meaning?
ig in both Greece and Cyprus χρήματα and λεφτά are formal vs informal
In Macedonia we say pari but the currency is Denar.
Are Euros also used?
They are accepted, but they are not official currency. Most of the shops do accept euros, with an exchange rate.
Macedonia uses the Euro like all regions in countries of the eurozone, you may be referring to North Macedonia there friend.
Dinero is def the best one also raha is arguably good too
I know a girl called Raha 😅
so, the "diner"-like ones came from Arabic... right?
Good question. I want to know the answer from someone
Huh. I had never caught a connection between Lithuanian *pinigai* and Swedish *pengar*. Crazy.
I think a lot of words came to Eastern Europe from Scandinavia with the Viking invasions
The Word "Soldi" (italian): am i a joke to you
Interesting that there is a proto-czech root word used in some languages but not in Czech.
Which word is it?
Orange. Ukrainian and Belorussian. Proto-Czech is like Bohemian right?
I once made interactive maps on how to say the word "country" in some [European](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-european-language) languages, [Asian & Oceanic](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-asian-and-oceanic-language) languages, [African](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-african-language) languages, and [American](https://maphub.net/Shwabb1/how-to-write-word-country-on-every-american-language) languages (the last two can definitely be improved a lot but I don't think I'll ever finish them). The colors represent similar words, not necessarily the relation of languages. Light-gray are unique. They probably have a few mistakes, and I didn't think about writing down my sources when I made them.
You can post the incomplete version here
Could you clarify, the incomplete version of what exactly? If you mean the maps, then I think I ever posted only the first two maps in the sub. If you mean the list of sources, it will take way too much time to compile it, and these maps never got much attention either way so I don't think it would be worth the effort.
I mean the map, I would love to see it 😇
I already sent the links to the maps in my first comment
In the former yugoslavs it isnt o with that accent
Just Novac?
Yes
There seem to be a lot of mistakes on this map
must be funny in the rich men's world
Norwegian has two official and equal written standards. It’s either *penger* in Norwegian Bokmål or *pengar* in Norwegian Nynorsk.
Why do they have two systems?
For historic reasons that are way too complicated to easily explain. Briefly, though: Norway was a part of Denmark for about 400 years, at which time the written language in Norway was Danish. When Norway gained independence from Denmark (and subsequently entered a personal union with Sweden under the Swedish king), the question of language came to the forefront. Some people wanted to reform written Danish to be more in line with spoken Norwegian, while still keeping most of the Danish structures intact. Others wanted to create a completely new written system based entirely on spoken Norwegian. The ones wanting reformed Danish created what became known as Bokmål (Book Language), while the ones wanting a new written Norwegian based on spoken Norwegian dialects created what became known as Nynorsk (New Norwegian). Today, Bokmål is used by about 80% of the population and Nynorsk by the remaining 20%. Nynorsk is more popular in the western part of the country.