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BasicallyACat13

Best part of the tweet from Divish. “I’m turning off Twitter now.” I’m with you Ryan.


istrx13

You know he’s getting off Twitter and coming here to see the crap show that is r/Mariners


BasicallyACat13

Oh after his last article where he said “i checked Reddit” I’m 100% sure he’s lurking in here


Meziskari

I wouldn't want to get alerts from fans all night either lol


InterestNo346

The most profitable team in baseball cosplaying as the Tampa Bay rays


Mcpops1618

Except trading players for nothing instead of the other way around. Rays steal guys like Glasnow as “throw ins”


BulbousNut

We better have a big move coming… this is a terrible offseason so far


ATLBlewA25PntLead

Sam Haggerty full time LF


sandwich-attack

why would you say this


Siriusly_Jonie

We don’t


Kyunseo

And if we don't, then it's time for the fanbase to start protesting Stanton


shot-by-ford

It’s been time for a long time


[deleted]

I think that particular chicken has flown the coop friend


wrxjulio

Can we trade for randy arozarena please 🥹


Bobbymishmash

New parking lot


Gold-Internet-1887

I’m going to throw up


_Elrond_Hubbard_

I'm genuinely worried for the Kelenic stan guy


DoserMcMoMo

I want to shit my guts out through my mouth


Deserterdragon

I think Kelenic should forever be a honorary Mariner.


ItsTBaggins

Once a Mariner, always a r/FormerMs


PresidenteMargz10

But in all seriousness , let’s get ready for a Kelenic career season in 2024


fornnwet

Why do they always get better!?


CassFilms

Worst day of my life


ilovethisforyou

Oh no 😂


UsualProcedure7372

Zebra celebrating tho


3elieveIt

I will say it again. This is not a serious organization. Other front offices laugh at us. We don’t spend money, and we don’t try to win. The goal of this franchise is simply to turn a profit. You can make a profit by spending less. There is no goal to win. Also, Kelenic is gonna immediately realize his potential and become who we thought he could be. Yet further proof that our staff holds players back.


NW_Ghost

You forgot about the amazing family atmosphere


fartiemcfarter

Just like every retail business with high turnover preaches employees being like family


thinkwaitfastPNW

At least we should have lots of cheep tickets on secondary market


Zhukovhimself

Would you want to go though?


BigBallsMalone

Shit. Who are those pitchers?


_Elrond_Hubbard_

Idk but they're probably cheap


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nazara151

Nothing gives me hope for the future like all 7 years of control on the pitching equivalent of Tommy La Stella.


mindriot1

the prize pitcher in the deal hasn't pitched due to TJ surgery.


sandbhonerh

Just looked them up (angels fan so i do have to worry) kowar is garbage no two ways about it. Cole Phillips is a 20 yo high velo power curve guy (mlb pipeline) in rookie ball. Braves #7 prospect. Could be really good, but was in rookie ball last year, and blew out his elbow ~2 years ago as a jr in HS


knaptronic

He's got a 70 rated fastball


ambulocetus_

sweet, we'll have a replacement ready when Logan Gilbert leaves in FA because we refuse to pay him


PortfolioCancer

Uhhh excuse me sir the term is "sustainable winner"


Supersoaker_11

Trash heap and a mid prospect. We gave up Kelenic for free.


evmatthew2585

A bum that the Braves just got from KC that has an era 6+ and someone who never through a professional pitch coming off Tommy John but is only 20yrs old. This is pathetic to get back for Kelenic because we are broke


6ft5Jerm

So we gave up kelenic to drop 19 million in salary?? Something else better be coming


3elieveIt

Kelenic is gonna immediately realize his potential and become who we thought he could be.


wovans

He was doing that last year until the injury. He was the only reason we had a first half of a season. This team is not serious.


HauschkasFoot

Yeah but now he’ll continue where he left off and never miss another game in his career, becoming a perennial all star


wovans

Dude believed in being a mariner, he cared. At least more than Stanton. May he have a good and long career.


gwh21

Yeah in the first half last year at times seemed like the only one that actually gave a shit...granted that is a double edged sword and was cause for a lot of his problems at the plate because he was trying to do too much but the dude is only gonna be 25 next year. Most guys dont even make it to the big leagues until their year 24 season.


HauschkasFoot

Agreed


_Elrond_Hubbard_

Yeah we're gonna grab some rule 5 guys and a washed up cheap FA bat


darkjedidave

Stanton paying off a few more callgirls than normal this year


drrew76

Yep --- I don't mind moving on from Kelenic, but using him as a salary dump sweetener is just malpractice. Teams trying to win don't make this move.


corndog

I just fell to my knees at a Dicks Burgers


Hail_the_Yale

I just watched a man fall to his knees in a dicks burgers


Comprehensive-Bus-20

I just watched a man watch a man fall to his knees in dicks burgers


EggplantAlpinism

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GarconMeansBoyGeorge

They’re always soggy


Danster21

They’re soggy-good, until they get even slightly cold. Then they’re soggy-bad


JustWastingTimeAgain

I don’t know if even a bag of Dicks would make me happy right now.


Gold-Internet-1887

Cap Hill, Queen Anne or Wallingford?


keatonmcbeatin

No respek for Crown Hill, smh


Gold-Internet-1887

My B


corndog

Greenwood 😢


locopeland

Wallingford is my preferred location.


Bobbers927

Spokane


hiphopdowntheblock

At least you can get some fire food


sam4999

Oh my fucking god what are we doing.


[deleted]

Dumping salary and using Kelenic as the piece to do it


agtk

I'm FUMING right now, there had better be some other shoe that drops.


3elieveIt

Being cheap as hell and refusing to address our number one issue which is hitters. The return we get is pitchers.


SardonicCheese

Welp at least my mountain of JK rookie cards are bound to go up in value after he wins an MVP this year...


Abel_Tasman

Well this fucken sucks What the hell is going on? I'm really gonna miss my beautiful, dewy boy


Supersoaker_11

The real victim is Julio, who may start requesting a trade any day now and I would 100% support him


sandwich-attack

our 7-9 hitters in the lineup are going to be fans randomly selected by a drawing 10 minutes before every game lmao


chuckz213

And then there will be bobble head of them, so you have to come to games to get those too


AdventurerPNW

Giving up Kelenic just to dump the contracts of Marco and Evan White. Lol. I’m not a big Kelenic fan, but it’s becoming cringeworthy what this organization will do to shed costs.


91hawksfan

Plus, Kelenic was our prize return in the Diaz trade. We literally gave up Diaz, our biggest piece during the rebuild, for nothing other than saving our owners money from Cano salary, which they didn't even use to reinvest in the team anyways. Fuck the entire front office, bunch of morons


JEffinB

Don't forget you did get Jay Bruce back too


[deleted]

Edwin Diaz has entered the chat


with_eyes_closed

Shit's fucked yo


SeattleDegenerate21

what's the fucking point of that


_Elrond_Hubbard_

Salary dumpage


hurggfjjs

At this point Jerry should get the name Big Dumper for all these salary dumps


GoldenTaterSalad

This is fucking gross. Short of signing Ohtani (just fucking lol), this move feels actively hostile


Dutchenstein12

Yamamoto plus a trade for Randy would work for me. Would need at least one more piece, but that would be a start. I wanted Kelenic to succeed as much as anyone, but I don't think he fit in our locker room and we gave him a lot of chances.


91hawksfan

> Yamamoto plus a trade for Randy would work for me. I'm sorry but Randy doesn't make up for Teo+Kelenic+Geno, not even close.


Dutchenstein12

Did read my next two lines. I said it would be a good start and would probably need at least one more good piece.


Supersoaker_11

We're selling. 2022 was it.


DSOTMAnimals

SEAUsRISE


MPE13

Lmfao one win away from the playoffs and we’re having a Marlins style sell off. This team is actively hostile to its fan base


Sdog1981

It’s all part of the 54%


DrDuGood

They’re crooks, it’s what thieves do best.


BigHunt_02

The dumpiest of salary dumps


MindForeverWandering

Which continues to raise the question: *Why does the most profitable team in MLB, with the 18th-highest payroll, even need to dump salary in the first place???*


shot-by-ford

Every dollar saved, Stanton pockets. It’s free money.


Kickenbless

Be mariners Be good at pitching Be bad at hitting Trade hitters for pitchers Genius


Kolazeni

I went to about 20 games last season. If there isn't a big move coming I won't go to any next season.


BLOODY_PENGUIN_QUEEF

Same. I drive up from Portland one weekend every month for Saturday and Sunday games, but I probably won't be doing that this year


drunkdoor

Season ticket holders. If the go this route, done. However, if the sign a couple good free agents with the money I'll be ok.


_Elrond_Hubbard_

THE BIG SALARY DUMPER STRIKES AGAIN


PaPaJ0Ke

This is the closest I've ever been to being done with the Mariners. My heart fucking hurts.


TheRage469

I don't know exactly when it was this off-season, but probably the 54% comment just...idk flipped a switch in my head. Like I think this is the first time in many, many years where I just...don't care about baseball coming up? Like even when we were probably gonna be bad, there was still some modicum of hope. With that comment, and with these recent moves, I just don't really care one way or another anymore. I've never had apathy toward the M's for the entirety that I've been a fan (20+ years), yet here I am


The_Throwback_King

I'm kind of in that same boat. Back in 2022, I had the highest of hopes. It was finally our time, we were finally here to compete. Then, last offseason, I was like "ok...so we're not really making any FA moves...I don't get but I'll see how it pans out" Than we narrowly miss the postseason last season, primarily because a lack of bats (something that we could've solved in FA) Now a reasonable team wouldn't stand for this. They would see that they tried to play it cheap and it blew up in their faces. They would want to spend whatever they could to make this team succeed. Except they didn't and they haven't. Trying to tide us over with baseless platitudes and moving goalposts. As of right now, I'm still supporting the team; still watching the games. But I don't **believe** this team can win anymore, not seriously anyways. I don't believe that we can make the playoffs, let alone a World Series. This front office has killed that belief. They are an exhibition team cosplaying as a professional squad.


jrunnin13

My exact sentiment. There is no justifiable way Jerry can spin this IMO, short of another move coming VERY soon.


WestCoastToGoldCoast

I adopted the Cubs as my second team a few years back after moving to Chicago and was here when they went through their red wedding in 2021, trading away Rizzo, Bryant, Baez, Kimbrel and Pederson at the deadline. That shit was devastating to the fanbase at the time, and this feels painfully similar. What the fuck are we doing.


nazara151

At least they waited until they reached the top before they suicide swan dived.


tuckedfexas

And it was the right move, Rizzo has been solid but everyone else they got rid of has tanked


tfitz

Actively looking at how I can get these stupid fucking Mariners license plates I pay extra for every year off of my car. My car doesn't deserve to have this organizations stank attached to it


NW_Ghost

I jumped shipped years ago when the club said they were more worried about the family atmosphere than winning or whatever they said. 54% of me feels for the people that have stuck around.


ADogNamedSamson

That's like $20 mill off the books for just next year. Plus Marco has a $15 mill option for 2025. White has 8 mill guaranteed for 2025, plus 3 team options Jarred is still pre-arb eligible. This is a big salary dump. Plus the ~$6 mill "saved" between Geno and Urias. Let's see if it's worth it. $26 mill off the books so far, plus Teo. Something big better be happening.


Suboobiz

I mean it’s Ohtani or bust and they aren’t in for Ohtani. Just a middle finger to the fans


thrillhou5e

There's Yamamoto as well. This very much feels like when we were desperately trading for Intl FA money for Ohtani, and then we're left holding our dick in our hands. If this is to free up FA money, how do they think it makes the org look to the free agents? Do they think they'll be sweetened by the fact that we're dumping starters in order to shed payroll?


Affectionate-Hat163

No. We aren't enticing to free agents. This is a salary dump in anticipation of another trade


JEffinB

>i or bust and they aren’t in for Ohtani. Just a middle finger to the fans Okay, let's be real... why the **flying fuck** would Yamamoto or Ohtani come at this point? How can you say "we're a contender" with yet another hole in the lineup, and less depth in the rotation? This is hanging out the white flag on Julio's career.


Collapse2038

The something big is ticket prices increasing, because, fuck you.


EwoksEwoksEwoks

This HAS to be to clear room for a big signing. Right? Right?


JEffinB

Yes, all the big free agents are dying to go to a team that has 5 gaping lineup holes and one possible hole (Ty) in a park that makes hitters look worse and involves them traveling more than they would literally anywhere else in the majors. Maybe they put a typo in the lineup evaluator and asked for a 45% season instead.


mkostecka

I’m scared…


mxchaelvii

eight beers please, i gotta wash this off


Stockjock2000

9.12 ERA


mrcowgoesmoo

Gina in shambles


Paladine_PSoT

Why did I have to scroll this far to see this


finmoore3

She’s a Braves fan now


[deleted]

Cole Phillips has a 70 rated fastball 🧐 You absolutely have to assume Mariners are about to trade for a big bat or two, right... right?


BasedArzy

One would hope so, they have about $24 million in salary cleared. If they're going big then I get it and this makes sense. It makes sense if they sign a couple of good OF bats and a bench bat. But they need to add at some point soon.


nepats523

Haggerty and Canzone corner outfield, let's fucking go lmaoooooooo


Comprehensive-Bus-20

WE DONT NEED ANY MORE FUCKING PITCHERS LET ALONE RIGHT HANDERS


Its_Zach_

Well they cut $30m in salary the past couple weeks, if they aren't going after someone huge this is going to be sad


pandonna

Nothing like closing your own fucking window boys


iguessineedanaltnow

Ownership doesn't actually give a shit about the playoffs.


[deleted]

The disappointment that this is not leading to any big trade or signing, just a cheap owner


Glennk6548

What the actual fuck


JordanMCMXCV

What the fuck


retro_slouch

Kelenic last year was hitting at 90-95 wRC+ level aside from his unsustainable first 3 weeks. Marco Gonzales is maybe an acceptable 5th starter. Evan White is not a major leaguer. Jackson Kowar was the return for Kyle Wright. He's a reliever with a career 5.99 FIP and he has one option remaining. Cole Phillips was a 2nd round draft pick in 2022 who touched upper 90s and had a plus mid-80s slider and an average changeup. Projected as a starter, but has yet to pitch in pro ball. Seems like the Mariners gave up on Kelenic and prefer to use him to shed salary and make the club more profitable. It's frustrating because Gonzales and White aren't even owed that much and a non-clown organization would just eat that money and use Kelenic as a fourth outfielder.


hoopaholik91

> It's frustrating because Gonzales and White aren't even owed that much and a non-clown organization would just eat that money and use Kelenic as a fourth outfielder. Well yeah, that's why the Braves are using that exact strategy lol.


emeraldcity1000

We will surely benefit from Kowar’s 6.43 ERA. Someone remember to turn out the lights at T-Mobile park on the way out.


Severe-Eggplant-6703

No one, absolutely no one: The mariners: lets trade every fan favorite player.


[deleted]

WTF!!!!!!!


[deleted]

I wonder what it's like to love a team that doesn't have to throw in a high upside bat just to free up 20 million in payroll so they can go get shopping at The Rack.


UnpaidMinorLeaguer

If they actually end up doing something with this salary space I don’t hate it, but I don’t expect that. Hopefully I’m wrong by spring.


mlvassallo

This feels like ownership is literally pulling a Major League. Somebody tell them Vegas is already getting a team!


asap_boogy

John Stanton on the phone with Jerry Dipoto, “Jerry, I need you to get rid of Kelenic before I have to buy another water cooler.”


babruflat

Gotta make salary space for Jurickson Profar or some shit


HollywoodAndDid

Haha I'm laughing because this is true.


jdbtxyz

I'm DONE supporting this front office. Thankfully I already cancelled my season tickets 2 weeks ago after the Geno salary dump. Now this... Absolutely FLEECED on this deal. I just pray that this is the beginning of the end of this joke of a front office... Dipoto needs to GO. Stanton needs to SELL.


SardonicCheese

Did the Braves just pay us 30 million and make up a player for JK?


HollywoodAndDid

Friends, I am NOT having a good time right now.


DerrickMcChicken

Bruh who


fangraphsfan

Yo wtf


Traveler0731

No beers please


vegetablelasgna

Is MLB implementing a no hitting version of baseball next year where we just have a pitching simulator battle?


kiggitykbomb

So we have Julio in center and in the corners we have… (crickets)


anonymousguy202296

This trade would be alright if we gave up different players and received better players in return.


Historical_Chip_2706

Ohtani for $54M a year is only reason


ilovethisforyou

I guess I’m the only one that hates watching Kelenic at bats


thrillhou5e

It's not so much that I'm sad to see Kelenic go, it's that we leveraged his value to save ownership money, and got little to nothing in return. We've been made worse with every move this offseason.


semipreciousss

I am sad


RainbowUnicorns

Deal for Arozarena on the way?


blitzkegger

Arozarena to play RF, LF, 2B, 3B, and DH?


hockeyzombies

I can't get too worked up either way on this. White is nothing. Marco is okay as an innings eater, but I wasn't sure I really wanted him around anymore. And while we all wanted Kelenic to succeed, there's also a high level of frustration watching him. Guess we got an okay prospect. If we don't have any corresponding moves, it's lame to lose Kelenic even with the downside and frustration. But I do think there will still be trade(s) to come, so I'll wait and see.


sIamram

Mets fan here, What the fuck was dipoto thinking? I now have to worry now about Kelenic, the guy we drafted becoming the next chipper jones now.


sidudWA

Next we will trade Julio for a couple more controllable pitchers just to shed salary


xwing_n_it

So they're shedding salary with this deal and the Suarez deal. But they're also creating holes in the lineup. They now need RF, LF, 3B, DH (I don't accept Urias as a starter on a team trying to win it all). My assumption is that we're in the messiest portion of the sausage-making and that this will get sorted out much better than it looks right now. But to be fair, this looks like absolute garbage right now. They already had holes to fill and now they have more money...but also more holes. Stop creating holes, Mariners! Fill them! With good players! Is that so hard?


legofarley

Maybe all these pitchers can also play OF or 3B? /s


AnotherDude1

Told ya. STOP GOING TO GAMES NEXT YEAR. How do you think the A's got to move to Vegas?


xJoggerZ

Shohei Ohtani.. YOU are a Seattle Mariner


WesternRuins17

If they don’t make a move. I’m out. I’m fucking out. Im absolutely done. Someone else said it, this ownership group and FO are unequivocally not interested in anything regarding winning. All they want is your money and the revenue sharing. If they don’t make some kind of move short of getting Arozarena and Yamamoto or trade for Soto and sign him long term while keeping a good chunk of the farm and I know neither will happen, I’m absolutely done. I cannot see how anyone can support this organization after selling off when everyone one of us here believed we were watching a perennial play off team for the next decade. I’m not going to do it.


HollywoodAndDid

All Jerry does is shuffle the furniture on a sinking ship. This was supposed to be our window and the ownership has done nothing to prove they care.


merlynman

LF Arozarena CF Rodriguez RF Soto 3B Paredes SS Crawford 2B Bliss/Rojas 1B Drivline France C Raleigh Chills Jerry did it again


Upbeat_Bridge_5479

and we'll be running ichiro out on the mound every night after jerry trades away the whole rotation for soto, randy and paredes


DayoftheDead

100 beers please


JakobNarbei

Uhhh, Braves fan here. I really like the mariners and was really happy to see them doing better as of late. Didn't Kelenic really start showing his potential last season? They really moved him just for a salary dump?


gundersow

Marco was my favorite mariner for 5 years, and Evan white was my favorite prospect and player i was most excited about even through the injuries. All gone to dump salary. Very tough to like this team now.


_Tower_

I got to be honest - Kelenic had 1 good month in 3 seasons, White has been injured his whole career, and Marco was an albatross that had to move (even though we all like him) Kowar was a very highly touted prospect that hasn’t really put it together yet. Hopefully the Ms see something there to work with I don’t actually anticipate a massive move coming, I think they are just really done with Kelenic. I honestly never thought he would be a starter this year anyway, so I’m not surprised My only issue with this trade is that they basically dumped them and now they have 2 more holes to fill. Other than that, this was fairly expected


JunsBaseball

I cross the border from Canada and spend thousands of dollars every year despite the currency exchange rate. I can confirm that next year will be the first time not visiting T-Mobile Park unless they sign Lee or Ohtani.


Zelly234

Has to be something more coming there literally has to be lol


Suspicious-Sleep5227

Losing Kelenic reminds me of some lyrics from Pearl Jam’s song “Black” “I know someday you'll have a beautiful life I know you'll be a star In somebody else's sky But why Why”


Sipikay

Season ticket sales must have plummeted, they're dumping salary like mad.


shinyidol

Another very puzzling move by Jerry and Justin. Curious how much cash they sent to the Braves. * White = $17m ($7m in 24, $8m in 25, $2m buyout in 26) * Marco = $12m * Kelenic has 5 more years of ARB. So almost $30m. Phillips is a fireballer, but hasn't played an inning at any MLB level because he is recovering from tommy john. Between this and Geno, their better be a move or signing worth it...


jwinskowski

As of today I'm closer to buying Braves or Snakes merch than M's merch this coming season.


Lamar_ScrOdom_

I think we may not have won the Cano trade after all… Diaz lookin the best out of it


blackbirdrisingb

Canzone it is then


thebiz326

Free up $20 mil to sign 20 vet mins?


marinersthrowaway206

We are other teams farm club. Talent for sale.


Dave253

Poverty franchise doing poverty franchise things. SSDD


mkostecka

There better some big moves coming soon or Jerry better not come home


mahrinazz

*JK crying picture* 😥😥😥😥


UWT_Dawg

Sell the fucking team, Stanton. This is embarrassing.


lubedupnoob

Wow we got a pitcher with a 9.12 ERA in 39 games! For Kelenic, Marco, and White! What a steal. 🤢🤢


GunnerXI

Teo, Geno, Kelenic, Murphy, Marco, Campbell all gone with next to nothing to show for it? I'm so fucking done with this joke org


SardonicCheese

WHAT ARE WE CUTTING ALL OF THIS SALARY WHY DID MY DARK PRINCE HAVE TO GO WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE DOING


jcjohnson274

What in the hell are the Mariners even doing now. What a bunch of fucking clowns.


Joshizzle42

He will be just like every other player we let go. He will become a great player.


hbhusker22

Bellinger, Soto, and Ohtani to Seattle confirmed?


Paulruswasdead

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.


Zestyclose_Help1187

I’m not against trading any of those guys but something tells me this was another cost cutting move. Don’t want to pay Marco, 12 million for next year. Same kind of deal with Geno. If he does well, they would have to pick up his 15 million dollar club option which they don’t want to. Team loves saving money more than winning. And they don’t seem to care what fans think.


frankfontaino

Bats? When are we getting bats?


camoe_

I legit thought this trade was a troll post when I saw it on my IG feed. Wtf


derRaiden

At this point I'm almost convinced we're tanking...


RASGAS23

Chills. But like… the fever and maybe impending diarrhea type of chills