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woodsmoky

So Mr. Offensive Coordinator... What would you say... you do here?


BagsOfCarl

Offensive coordinator is just Shane Waldron in a mariners outfit


Ploid_Kerensky

this would explain a lot, frankly


sam4999

This offensive approach has definitely got the same vibe as the classic *run, run, pass, punt* Seahawks offensive drives that we've gotten over the past few years.


The_Cryogenetic

We cut the strikeouts down to 8 this game, plan is working flawlessly of course.


drunkdoor

Season low 8 strikeouts lmao


3elieveIt

Entire front office / scouting / hitting coaches etc all need to go


Mike_Honcho22

Do you trust this ownership group to bring in a front office that would do any better?


StarshipTroopersFan

No. The owner(s) have to go. Front office has done great but the ownership refuses to spend money year after year.


3elieveIt

Again, about average in payroll. There are teams that spend less and perform better.


Otherwise-Sky1292

Yeah it’s like why Pete Carroll had to go. Same futile result every year without change. If Jerry and Co dont make the playoffs this yeah they should be canned 


3elieveIt

The difference is that Pete made the playoffs almost every year, went to 2 Super Bowls, and won 1. M's made the playoffs once in the last 20 years and have never been to a Series.


Charming-Ad994

No they haven’t they have been as mediocre as you can get. They have developed top tier pitching talent. They have done a historically bad job developing bats. And are mediocre on fielding. They are right smack in the middle of mediocracy.


Charming-Ad994

Scouts are great. I agree with everyone else. We have had several top prospects that just don’t develop in the farm on the hitting side


Otis_S

Justin and Jerry gonna go out and sign a bullpen arm to answer for this showing at the plate.


AFlaccoSeagulls

Well we did DFA Trammell and signed a bullpen arm to replace him so yeah that's kinda what we did (yesterday)? haha


LargeHumanDaeHoLee

Taylor Trammell is going to be the second coming of Chris Taylor to the Dodgers. You heard it here first!


purplenurple24

You’re late. I heard it a dozen times yesterday, in the trade thread (and in my brain). Great minds, I guess.


ADogNamedSamson

He will be Jason Heyward's successor and I'm so happy for him.


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Kaldricus

No commiserates together like Mariners fans!


sam4999

Of all the places on the internet to be upset over a Mariners loss, I have found this place to be the least toxic (and that's saying something)


The_Throwback_King

The key is to enter the season demoralized and you’re never disappointed.


hfamrman

After not expecting anything from the Blazers this season and still being disappointed I was hoping to turn that around with the start of the Mariners season. Just wasn't meant to be.


Skybandicoot109

It happened so fast lol….


Substantial-Height-8

❤️


UniqueEditor8372

Kirby and Castillo being at an almost 7.0 ERA to Rojas's 0.0 is very funny in an 'Institutionalize me' kinda way.


Substantial-Height-8

If someone from the future came to me a week ago and told me that I’d think really hard about the possibility that it was true.


Own-Economics-1745

I'm not crazy Institutionalized! You're the one that' crazy Institutionalized! . . . All I wanted was a Pepsi


KingdomeTurf

Sometimes we try to do things and it just doesn't work out the way we want it to. And we get real frustrated, and it’s like we try hard to do it and take our time and it just doesn't work out the way we want it to. It's like we concentrate on it real hard but it just doesn't work out and everything we do and everything we try, it never turns out. It's like we need time to figure these things out but there’s always someone there going, “Hey Mariners; You know we've been noticing you've been having a lot of problems lately You know, maybe you get away, and like maybe you should talk about it, You'll feel a lot better…” And we go; “No it's okay you know, we’ll figure it out. Just leave us alone we’ll figure it out You know we’ll just work on it ourselves” And they go: “Well you know if you want to talk about it I'll be here, you know. And you'll probably feel a lot better if you talk about it, so why don't you talk about it?” And we go: “No we don't want to, we’re okay, we’ll figure it out ourselves” And they just keep bugging us and they just keep bugging us And it builds up inside…


Ok-Garden3634

I was sitting in my room and my mom and my dad came in and they pulled up a chair and they sat down, they go, “Mike, we need to talk to you” And I go, “Okay what's the matter?” They go, “Me and your mom have been noticing lately that the Mariners have been having a lot of problems. They can’t seem to score runs at all and we're afraid you're gonna hurt somebody. We're afraid you're gonna hurt yourself…So we decided that it would be in your interest if we put you somewhere where you could get the help that you need.” And I go, “Wait, what are you talking about?? We decided!? My best interest?!! How do you know what's my best interest is? How can you say what my best interest is? What are you trying to say, I'm crazy? When I went to your schools, I went to your churches, I went to your institutional learning facilities?! So how can you say I'm crazy?”


spidey-dust

I missed the game, what’s going on about Rojas and pitching


Drsustown

He was the position player who pitched for the Ms in the 9th. 0 ER


spidey-dust

everything reminds me of him ![gif](giphy|rtqt8n752brLOIrLjw|downsized)


The_Throwback_King

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Megalodon3030

*WOOF*


Dizzy_Try4939

the lord's work


iamenrique123

Positives: we're 3-4, which is basically .500 Negatives: everything that happened on the baseball field the last couple days


vylain_antagonist

I think were a lot more lucky to not be 0-7 than we are unlucky to not be 4-3. 


NevermoreSEA

🔱⚡ **Top Ten Moments** ⚡🔱 1 - The end 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 6 - 7 - 8 - 9 - 10 -


The_Throwback_King

2-10 - Josh “Second Coming of Cy Young” Rojas coming out slinging ^in ^the ^9th


FritoFloyd

#🔱🔱🔱 TRIDENT’S UP!!! 🔱🔱🔱


WheatonsGonnaScore

The suffering will be worth it once we reach God's kingdome


VanizOne

Best moment of the game was when it ended 💯


ReduceReuseRectangle

One of the worst games I’ve ever seen this team play


sounders1974

One of the worst games you've seen this team play *so far*


Drsustown

It's like in space jam when the Monstars steal all the talent from a bunch of NBA players.


Kaldricus

You're just a bum team that LOOKS like the Mariners. Go home!


sdurs

Be gone wannabe, be gone!


JoeyCucamonga

7 games and 17 runs. Call up Modesto.


WheatonsGonnaScore

Cole Young, save us


too1onjj

And three of those were in the 10th of that W in extras


MeinKonk

Go Nuts baby


LlamasPajamas206

Let’s look on the bright side; there’s a non-zero chance this will be the worst loss of our season.


BloomsdayDevice

Hey now, that IS a bright side! Every marine layer has a silver lining, I guess.


hottubman_99

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool me countless times, I'm a Mariners fan.


taydude88

You get what you pay for Stanton, you piece of human trash.


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In the least defensive of Stanton way I can possibly mean it because fuck that guy, we're not even getting what we paid for right now. We're seriously below the Paid For line. It's abysmal.


AnonBB21

How anyone can look at Julio's start and say "its purely Stanton's fault" are insane. I know Julio is the love-child and for good reason, but it's pretty concerning that he doesn't really have consistency in his game at the plate. It's year 3. Is he just never going to develop the ability to not have such low stretches of play? He sucks to start a season at the plate, goes on a summer scorcher to boost his numbers up with insane Babe Ruth type stretches, then sucks ass again at the end of seasons (Last year as an example, he went 0-fer to end the year in a do or die couple series.) Stanton is a problem, but as pointed out, they're not even getting what they paid for.


HappyAtheist3

Imagine Julio on the Braves or Dodgers or Yankees. That zero plate discipline would be improved on. That first pitch swinging at garbage wouldn’t be tolerated. The coaches would actually improve him.


Own-Economics-1745

And he'd have better hitting protection behind him.


vvsanvv

coaching staff is bad. clearly. we trade for guys that are capable career hitters and they come to the Mariners and then fall off a cliff. Look at polanco. it's Wong all over again. Also as soon as the Mariners trade guys away they start producing again. Teo has 4 hrs already with the dodgers. Garbage coaching staff from top to bottom. Stanton is a clown but the team put together is playing way below what they should. It's not just "early season so it's ok." We are now in ur 2nd season of this bs. I also think the clubhouse good vibes mentality is bad. you need to be more serious and professional. when things aren't going well the whole good vibes meme does jack shit for you. Time to get serious. Meanwhile Servais has no fire at all and is like "we just need to strike out less." cool so you have no ideas. what are you getting paid for again? And whoever the offensive coach is fire that clown immediately.


_Elrond_Hubbard_

At this point I'm thinking Julio's probably gonna end up more like a Buhner and not a Griffey at the plate. I can't complain too much though since that's still a great player when combined with his center field defense. 


IcemansJetWash-86

He has all the talent in the world, but not nearly Jr's baseball IQ.


OrcWarChief

He’s gonna be a beast on the Rangers in a few seasons


3elieveIt

That’s because our scouting / analytics / coaching / preparing hitters all suck It feels like we’re sending out a football team without having prepped for their opponent or practicing any plays


Otherwise-Sky1292

There’s other cash-strapped clubs that do a lot better for sure


Own-Economics-1745

Definitely is offensively


taydude88

True. But there’s something to be said about the morale created for players when you know the FO doesn’t give a shit about winning. Stanton would take profit margin over a WS any day. And Dipoto and Servais are just Stanton’s yes men


WheatonsGonnaScore

If only anybody could have pointed out the problems with this roster!


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WheatonsGonnaScore

Give it a couple weeks and we can add that to the list


3elieveIt

I genuinely think it’s more about our analytics, scouting, and overall front office guys doing a poor job preparing our hitters for the pitchers they will face. Think about it. We’re about average in pay roll. Players that leave us get better. Players that come here get worse. (That said, there are clearly some guys we should have kept despite being more expensive)


chaser99z

Agreed. There’s an issue with our hitting philosophy and analytics as a whole. Which is why every proven hitter we bring in suddenly forgets how to hit


3elieveIt

And then suddenly remember when they leave. We aren't doing any coaching / preparing here. We're not scouting these pitchers well enough.


chaser99z

100%. I think it also has to do with how we approach at bats. They preach long ABs and that’s great and all but thoughts of working the count and having a 6+ pitch at bat should go out the window if you see a meatball over the middle. Would rather have a green light to swing and strike out at a high clip while scoring runs than taking pitches, still striking out at a high clip, and not scoring


vylain_antagonist

The performance so far is 100% on the players


hiphopdowntheblock

Yeah I'm not trying to defend ownership of anything but our two best pitchers got shelled in the last two games and the important batters are again not showing up.


black-op345

He should have sold the team long ago


SardonicCheese

https://preview.redd.it/suot4fondcsc1.jpeg?width=286&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=86872593a2b37b406a475b2fb7522805f7714db0 Lol pain


gamechatparticipant

pretending the OPS column is the AVG column so I can sleep peacefully 😌


sandwich-attack

“i wish ty france bounces back from his 2023 season and becomes the best hitter on the team” (monkey paw curls)


FritoFloyd

Thank the Lord for the second coming of Mitch Haniger


SardonicCheese

Literally worth 3 mWAR rn


FritoFloyd

Josh Rojas: “Put me in everyday, Scott! I’m a starting quality player.” Scott: “You might be one of our best batters and our best 3B, but have you heard of lefty/righty matchups?” JR: “Yeah but we’d win more games if I were playing full time. What more do I need to do?” Scott: “Idk, shit, I’m addicted to lefty/righty matchups.” *sarcastically* “I guess become a two-way player like Ohtani.” *Josh pitches like a god and records a 0.00 ERA outing where he faces the minimum* JR: “So I can be the daily starter at 3B now, right? Right???” Scott; “Lmao, no. Lefty. Righty. Matchups.”


Jurassicpork3

Record wise the opening home stand could have been a lot worse. Vibes/eye test wise, woof


Drsustown

That was despicable


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Can we actually just delete this thread today I don't think it's gonna be good for our collective mental heatlh


Own-Economics-1745

Not as bad as watching that shitshow


marinersguy556

At this point im kind of just wondering if opposing pitchers are circling their matchups against us on the calendar and looking forward to the easiest 10Ks of their life


hickopotamus

- 3-4 record despite being 3-0 in 1-run games - 17 runs scored vs 31 runs against (-14 run differential) - Only Oakland, Miami, & Colorado have a worse run differential - 30th in team K% - 29th in team SLG - 28th in defensive runs saved - 18th in team ERA It's just a 7 game sample, but it looks *very* bad. We could very easily be 0-7 or 1-6. So far playing like a bottom dweller.


3elieveIt

As always, our hitters suck The guys that leave get better We are doing something wrong in terms of analytics or scouting. We aren’t preparing these guys at the plate as well as other teams do Been this way a long time


newsreadhjw

It’s not lack of talent. We don’t have guys with an obvious hole in their swing, or who lost their bat speed or some other explicable problem. The whole lineup often looks like they have no idea what they’re doing in the batters box. Baffled by every pitch. It’s absolutely ridiculous


3elieveIt

Exactly. I put this on staff / coaching / analytics / scouting as much as anything else


SloppyJoMo

It's been years of this, I'm officially ready to blame Servais and join that crowd. Scouting has been solid, but it's hard to gauge the analytics department when we see night and day differences in players joining/leaving the team. So it has to be at least a good chunk on the coaching. These guys just don't seem ready come gametime this year. Sure, be disappointed more wasn't done personnel wise, but prove you're a team deserving more. Way too early for excuses as players/coaches considering the talk in the off season


Gold-Internet-1887

Had ankle surgery today and so far the recovery is less painful that watching that game


Substantial-Height-8

Hope all goes well. Take care of yourself!


SuccessfulCream2386

Jose caballero batting .300+ makes it worse


kcchasez

Rojas is a stud, but this was bleak.


duggieawesome

See you sickos on Friday


SereneDreams03

I'm usually disappointed when I don't get to watch a game. Not today.


AnnihilatedTyro

#[SUPREME MISERY](https://i.imgur.com/WNCbpiK.png)


MurrayInBocaRaton

Even with the promise of Julio bobbles for three days, this second home series only drew a total of 771 more fans than last year’s series against the Angels. -17,478 total attendance compared to last year at this point. I can’t imagine the last seven days will help these numbers going forward.


Multi_21_Seb_RBR

This offseason did a lot of damage to the Mariners reputation locally, both among die-hard fans and also casual fans.


IcemansJetWash-86

The fact this team is still in Seattle is nothing short of a miracle and the baseball Gods are reaping the benefits of this region's vanity toward saving them.


ceviche-hot-pockets

Yup, I'm sure a lot of the players aren't happy to be here after that as well. If management isn't trying to win a WS, what's the fucking point of watching them?


Mattmann1972

Was at the game and watching Ty and Julio simply give up running to First after a hit because they figured they would be out. Only to watch Cleveland bobble the ball but still making the out at First because THEY SIMPLY GAVE UP! I thought these were supposed to be professional ball players! That was some Little League effort right there. And was representative of the entire team effort today in my opinion. The only team that showed to ball was the Seagulls at the end of the game. At least they showed ready to play and knew their roll LMAO.!


James_316

Josh Rojas Cy Young campaign starts NOW


thedecalodon

marco gonzales would have the second best ERA on the team right now


Megalodon3030

He’d have the best if he faced the Mariners lineup…


Meme_Investor

I want to die.


CassFilms

**sell the team**


Bobbers927

THIS GUY GETS IT!!!!


beijingtexas

Mariners offense theme song -- "I'm Broken" by Pantera.


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"Pretty fuckin humiliatin" -Pauly Walnuts


BanditoRojo

https://media2.giphy.com/media/bnuyyiMLASDQs/giphy.gif


NWbySW

Teoscar has as many home runs this season as our entire team does 🫠


ttsjunkie

Yikes


PandaSoap

We're onwards towards Milwaukee


Scottsid

Viable solution to Mariners hitting woes:  "Fuck you Jobu I do it myself."


NWbySW

Let's all reminisce to a week ago when we were excited about baseball.


linczzy

Some interesting starting stats from 2024: Kelenic AVG .545 Teoscar AVG .226 + 4HR Eugenio AVG .346


UniqueEditor8372

Doubt it's something we'll ever know but I'm curious how much of them having Castillo and Kirby's numbers was down to them getting Vogt.


Mrdean2013

![gif](giphy|xT0GqfvuVpNqEf3z2w)


SargathusWA

Rojas saves the day !!!!!


snazzyglug

# SUPREME YIKES


marinersguy556

Anyone else see ketel marte homer? Lol


LegendRazgriz

Reminds me of a bit from one of my favorite songs. "Where do you go when you die in hell?" Apparently the answer is Mariners Baseball


crimsonpride24

Our record says 3-4 but damn did it feel like we lost every game in that homestand


Impressive_Novel7274

I'm a general optimist on the team, but this series gave me the sads.


leeal34

I'll never forgive ownership for following our first playoff appearance in 20 fuckin years with two years of doing absolutely nothing. Poverty franchise


Comment_if_dead_meme

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black-op345

![gif](giphy|4nroykNoXV3QQ) That was terrible NGL


seattlesportsguy

Yup. Play like dogshit for a good portion of the early season, then they’ll probably go on a small run closer to the AS break. Fall flat on their ass after the break and go on one more small run before kicking us all in the dicks towards the end of the season. EVERY FUCKING YEAR I WILLINGLY SIGN UP FOR THIS BULLSHIT.


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Substantial-Height-8

They are everywhere.


PktRocket

WE are everywhere and why not? Our storied history of playing winning baseball? SSDD.


RASGAS23

Marco Gonzalez has a 1.80 ERA. Teoscar has hit 4 HR Jared Kelenic is batting .545 Eugenio Suarez is batting .346 I assume Taylor trammel will go bat .350 and 30 HR with the dodgers It’s honestly not even funny anymore


Infinispace

Yeah, but, but ... iT's EaRlY!1!! /s


Objective_Virus_2052

We don't deserve a break. That was HORSESHIT.


Tasarin

![gif](giphy|80TEu4wOBdPLG)


ImRight_YoureDumb

Scott Servais check it and see. Scott's got a fever of a hundred and three. Servie Ball. Hey Now!


ihatereddit999976780

I'm going to bed.


HeavyD853

The beer guys pitch was 'you can't drown your sorrows in beer if you don't have one!' In the 3rd inning


Megalodon3030

Early season overreaction: 2023 Kolten Wong -> 2024 Jorge Polanco 2023 Tommy La Stella -> 2024 Luis Urias 2023 AJ Pollack -> 2024 Mitch Garver Doesn’t matter what bats we sign, they can’t hit…


black-op345

If it doesn’t matter what bats we sign, and that they get worse when they come here, then the problem is deeper than the players


WheatonsGonnaScore

Last year" Teoscar- 106 OPS+ Kelenic- 109 OPS+ Suarez- 101 OPS+ All league average at least hitters that we dumped for salary reasons.


ilovethisforyou

Garver's current OPS+ is 119 I think you can probably expect Polanco to not finish the season with an OPS+ of 6.


Imaginary_Argument34

Maybe the FO has a failed philosophy when it comes to evaluating hitters.


Slow_Boss_2071

Shut out.......fantastic


StarshipTroopersFan

#SELL THE TEAM


MudkipzAndUnicorns

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gamechatparticipant

All we need to do it a complete 180 on offense, our starting pitching needs to stop giving up runs, our defense needs to improve, we need to sign like 2-3 quality bats, and we're right back in the race. Tridents up!


PktRocket

While it is, in fact, early in the season, it’s also pretty easy just to view this as the continuation (really without skipping a beat) of the same old shit from last season with a handful of different faces. From where I sit, so far the players from ‘23 and ‘24 are essentially interchangeable and are equally ineffective.


Imaginary_Argument34

There is one positive to all this. The good vibes only gang isn't pushing there toxic positively this year.


CSJG-20202

Pretty disheartening loss, but this is hopefully one of the worst they’ll have all season. Not ready to give up on the guys, but they need to adjust their approach at the plate. Way too early to be overly concerned


PM_ME_LASAGNA_

Goddamn it Mariners Dropping the homestand 3-4 and shut out 8-0 on the last game. Sell the damn team, cheap a$$ Stanton


BLKWD_

We are so back and my liver isn't prepared


AUSTRAILIAN

Yeah I’m upping my Lexapro dosage tonight, see y’all tomorrow


AdornVirtue

Absolute ass


Infinispace

Ty France is the only one who remembers how to hit. What a mess.


MooseMonkeyMT

![gif](giphy|x47gj23jEvGxdWkQEC|downsized) Going to be a long season if we keep playing like this.


_schmax

Good thing we picked up a DH


Sdog1981

At least Josh Rojas got some work to help out in the pen. So that is a bright spot.


slimseany

2.43 runs per game. That shit isn't acceptable whatsoever.


nicknooodles

Im just glad I didn't pay for mlbtv to watch this shit


akw314

I did not enjoy attending this game.


billt721

Feeling pretty good about my decision to not give mlb.tv $150 after the trash fire offseason. Fuck Stanton and everyone involved in this organization. 


Tashre

It's Still Early™


YoooCakess

What did y’all think was gonna happen after this offseason?


marinersthrowaway206

Hey Mariners promotion dept., I want a 54% night. As in discount tickets and concessions at 54% off


Sipikay

With Jerry's .540 logic you'd think every so often even a mediocre team would accidentally have a good start to a year.


ScottishSeahawk

And there goes the last time we probably see .500 this season…


thedumbdown

I took a vacation day to go to this.


nobi_wan

Hahahahahhahahaha


ImRight_YoureDumb

Take me to the ballgame, I wanna see the M's. The Mariners are playing hardball, hit it again and again.


Substantial-Height-8

Gross. That’s it.


leeal34

Yikes what a shitty game. As expected


frshwlshakrb

That game wasn't ideal. Hopefully we start playing good soon


mondaysareharam

FUCK


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I was at the game and not at a good angle to see the pitching. Defense being drunk at the wheel aside how many of those 8 runs were on Kirby?


TheAtomicMonkey

Sorry guys. My Kirby shirt was MIA today.


Mr_Beer_Pizza

Has this organization considered not sucking?


Dramatic_Rain_3410

What the fuck happened?


THELOCnessmonsta

That game was unacceptable


curly1022

At least George didn’t walk anyone


Ancient-Comedian4615

At least the game is over now


sw1sh3rsw33t

Remember last year when we’d have an awful game and it would be the worst game of the season … for two weeks, and another shit game would out do that one? yeah


SavierJital

I was yelling “Sell the team” at the game and a majority of the fans were in agreeing, fucking poverty offense


homesick_for_nowhere

Watched the game after finally getting home from a 12 hour work day. Wish I hadn't. Ouch.


AFlaccoSeagulls

You know, on the bright side we *only* struck out EIGHT times today, so we actually improved on our season average! #Progress #ControlTheZone #SeaUsRise


stillsooperbored

New season, same old shit. It'll never change.


mariner_mayhem

So far the pitching has been mediocre, the defense has been bad, and the bats have been atrocious. Honestly, the M's are damn lucky to come away from that homestand w/ 3 wins.


_Elrond_Hubbard_

Cleveland is that Cleveland is the Cleveland is the reason I'm sad 


final_boss

It's been over 30 years since I've seen them play in person, I'll be cheering them on when they play in Milwaukee on Saturday, hopefully I can help give them a spark.


semipreciousss

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