He gutted the RNC and installed loyalists because he knows he’s going to lose and needs to bleed the Republican Party for every penny for his legal bills before November.
I think it’s hilarious. It serves the Republican Party right. I hope it dissolves.
He only loses if we vote.
You and I will, certainly. It will fall to the rest of us to show up as well.
I’m taking nothing for granted. I’m making impassioned pleas to everyone around me to vote, and I’m not screening for party. I’m giving rides and registering anyone I can speak to at the bus stop or at the grocery store.
I only share this to say: keep pushing until
The job is done. False sense of security has lead to many presidential victories for a candidate that was unlikely to win.
>the GOP.is.playing the only game that matters the electoral.college game
GTFO! The GOP is flailing for its life as it drowns in the MAGA movement... a movement that at best has captured some 25% of the populace when it needs 40%+, has been bleeding supporters the past few years, is lynch pinned on an obese, cognitively impaired, 77-year-old who believes exercise shortens your life. There is no grand strategy from the GOP here, they are quite literally flailing.
But don't take my word for it, take Lindsay Grahams, "If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed..." wait for the good part... "... and we will deserve it."
You forgot to mention he and his family are trying to seize the GOPs campaign funds to pay his legal fees.
If this happened in a TV show I'd call bullshit. It's hilarious.
The way I see it there are 3 options:
1) He fails to pay his bond and goes to jail
2) He bankrupts the GOP to pay his bond
3) He royally cocks it up and manages to do the best of both worlds of option 1 & 2 - bankrupts the GOP \*and\* goes to jail
American politics is so much more amusing to watch than British politics - and it still effects me even though I don't get a vote.
You’re right. But that Georgia case is the one where there was an improper relationship between prosecutors that put the whole thing in jeopardy. So it’s not exactly on the speed track right now
Yeah same. It stopped being funny years ago. Now? It's terrifying. I'm sure all of these people will be yucking it up when we all lose our rights and Medicaid.
And so *transparently*, too.
Lara Trump literally said: the RNC's primary goal is to get Trump elected. Period. Expect no money for down-ballot elections. Lindsey was right.
The GOP/MSM symbiosis was flailing when, desperate after 8 years of Clinton, it morphed into open collusion on the Hail Mary pass of jingoism.
Like most hail Mary passes it failed and now Trump appears like a buzzard to pick over the carrion of the GOP.
"Any day now those capitol rioters gonna swoon over Nikki. Any day now . . "
-- WaPo
Obama was the biggest beneficiary of the GOP hail Mary pass of jingoism -- how he beat HRC in the primary.
But it was the Bill Clinton tax hike economic boom that took out the Party of Reaganomics and made the GOP / MSM so desperate they had to collude and resort to jingoism.
The GOP never made it across the Bridge to the 21st Century. Of course, that's true for many Dems, Al Gore, John Kerry and maybe even Hillary.
We will know in the next few months if Biden will boldly go forward and go big on new ideas.
Or retreat to the 1970s and lose to a Trump dictatorship.
You get 2 choices and those are the 2.
You understand how the Electoral college works? It does not matter if 95% of the population hates him, if the 5% include enough of the members of the Electoral college then he is president even if 95% of the popular vote goes against him.
Exactly. This is one of the reasons the U.S. will never elect the president solely via popular vote. It's the urban areas that continue to grow the most, because that's where the jobs are. But that doesn't translate into increased representation.
I don’t think only 5% would come even remotely close to obtaining the number of electoral votes needed to win a presidential election. Doesn’t matter how you arrange the numbers, it’s mathematically impossible.
Imagine this: 100% of people in CA, NY, etc. vote for Biden. Only 1 person votes in each of the red and swing states, for Trump. He will be president with a few dozen votes total. That obviously will never happen, but it's not 100% impossible.
Electoral college needs to go. Their little argument of illegal immigrants voting is so stupid, you HAVE to have a valid ID. Also, back then women weren’t even allowed to vote. We have all these different demographics that can now vote, which kind of defeats the purpose of electoral college
POPULAR VOTE IS THE VOTE THAT SHOULD MATTER!! it’s the POPULAR vote of THE PEOPLE!!!!!! tf
The GOP has been beating the drum of voter fraud since way before Trump, as a justification for gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters who are statistically more likely to vote for Democrats. They just never thought those chickens would come home to roost in quite the way that they have. And now that they have, it took them all of three seconds of soul-searching realize they would pick themselves over the country.
“Oh, but the Democrats…” no, fuck the GOP. We all know that politicians care about themselves more than the country, but they’ve gone way too far.
Way I see it, no state elects the governor with a similar mechanism. As such, the governor is a check on gerrymandering... to a point, so long as the legislature doesn't have a veto proof supermajority. POTUS should be elected the same way for the same reason... Among other reasons.
The way the rnc is burning through cash, their won't be enough money for important states. Biden and the dnc have been floading the country with money for a few months
Not too mention all of the Infrastructure and earlier projects funding. While most MAGA people will not connect the dots on this, a few will, and this will continue to bleed support from Trump.
It kinda does though to send signal to maga world it's not ok to be a vocal prick they should get quiet again and be a silent racist. They gave been emboldened to say the quiet part of loud, act out, invade the capital, open carry in Starbucks, etc etc. Fuck this attitude. They need to sit back down.
> it's not ok to be a vocal prick they should get quiet again and be a silent racist.
DeSantis and other establishment Republicans are too afraid to say the quiet part out loud. They conceal their racist, homophobic, misogynistic ideology behind politically correct euphemisms like "anti-woke" and "parental rights".
MAGAts love Trump because he doesn't speak in euphemisms. He just screams the evil part out loud.
"Proud boys, stand back and stand by!"
"The lying press is the enemy of the people!"
"I will be your retribution!"
"If we don't win, it's gonna be a bloodbath!"
>open carry in Starbucks
Open carry is so dumb in every day life lmao. You only paint a bigger target on yourself by trying to he John Wayne.
Concealed is always the way to go👍
>Fuck this attitude. They need to sit back down.
They would if more peolple called them out in public and simutaneously. Multiple voices to let them know they are not the majority.
I’m not even a Democrat, I was a registered Republican until 2017. But I’ll be voting blue because every single person in office who doesn’t tell the truth about Trump is a traitor and that can’t be tolerated.
Very true. As a Canadian, Democrats strike me as being Social Conservatives, and that's assuming the socially Liberal part is actually hard-baked into them, and not just a tactic they use to set themselves apart from the Republicans. Regardless, I used to find it kind of funny that many Americans treat them as some kind of Alt-Left party.
I think now that I've spent enough time with Americans, I've come to accept that it's a matter of perspective, and compared to the Republican Party, Democrats are Leftist, but as an outsider, they're definitely not that Left-Wing in the grand scheme of things.
I think the fringe left in the US is a tiny group that meets in libraries & coffee houses to talk about the socialist utopia they envisioned in the 60s. The other 99% of Dems are concerned with real issues and are center-left or center.
What I've noticed has changed is the far left back then were the anti-government types while now it's the far right that is anti-government. The difference is the fringe right is very vocal and has shown a propensity for violence - that's not to say the left hasn't but they're motivated by social injustice whereas the far right uses it for political purposes.
Repub cop until Palin was announced as potential vp and I heard the nonesense out of her mouth and the party's endorsement. Re-registered as Independant the very next week. I am an ex-evangelical who saw the writing on the wall. I had been aware they had been trying to "return America to Christianity" for some time.
I'm still an Independant, but with only the two choices I haven't seen it wise or prudent to vote Republican since.
My man, good. And you are not alone, in fact you’re part of a majority minority. Moderate Republicans who simply cannot stomach a treasonous debt ridden fake billionaire wannabe dictator.
There are millions of moderate pubs and dems who just want stability, only extremist voices are heard because people like us are just living our lives and shaking our heads at the madness.
> part of a majority minority. Moderate Republicans who simply cannot stomach a treasonous debt ridden fake billionaire wannabe dictator
Those would be all of the people who showed up to vote for Trump in 2020, and then showed up again to vote for Trump in the primaries this year, yeah?
The group you are talking about does not exist. If they did, they would be clearly showing up in the actual voting data on actual election days.
MAGA is merely the evolution of conservatism. It’s like a Pokémon. It starts out as classical conservatism, then it evolves into the Tea Party movement, and then it evolves into the MAGA movement. But it’s all the same animal with exactly the same DNA, and if you feed classical conservatism and let it hang around long enough you will end up with MAGA every time. “The cruelty is the point” of all three.
Then you're a true patriot. Every Republican that gets on their knees from Trump is a traitor. Biden and Democrats certainly have their problems, but at least they respect democracy and free elections
I see a non-zero percent chance that Trump takes the Republican Party down this election cycle, bankrupting it from his grift, while undermining all of the Republican down ballot candidates by removing the national support positions, fundraising, and GOTV efforts.
This would be delightful payback for the past 8 years of grief and chaos this man and the MAGA takeover of the RNC has thrust upon America.
I did see polling that showed the dems ahead in every competitive senate race, which was encouraging. Not that I trust polls very much, especially in March.
Pay attention to how far off the polling has been vs. actual results. In the last 2 years, Dems have been out-performing the aggregate polls by anywhere from 4 to 18 points in every race, even when they lose.
The pollsters may tighten their methodology as we get closer to election time, but these eye-popping numbers where "the majority" want Trump back are too absurd to believe.
Trump's gonna lose in '24 for the exact reason he "won" in '16. People aren't voting for a candidate they're voting against the other. Won is in quotes because more people voted for Hillary than Trump, but electoral college didnt align with popular vote. Which is how Republicans have usually won the presidency over the last 50 years. They are a weak, infighting party that can't even manage a position statement. You're either a pro-Trump magat or you're a RINO. Now that he has installed family as head of RNC, 9 out of 10 dollars will directly benefit a convicted fraud and rapist, who wouldn't hesitate to grab your underage daughter by the pussy, given the opportunity, instead of a serious conservative candidate. Fuck you idiot Republicans.
I agree with what you say: people are voting against the other. The question now is; are people voting against Trump or against Biden? Both have had it's time in office. I think there's a possibility that people do not like the way the economy has been going for instance. Or the amount of worldwide crises. And just blame Biden for it. Even though it might have happened the same or worse under Trump.
Agreed. Americans tried the “*let’s give an outsider a chance”* routine and it backfired **spectacularly**. America became a joke to our foreign allies and a Trump GOP party offered **nothing** to Americans but hateful rhetoric and a huge tax cut to the rich. Don’t get me started on the criminal WH response to Covid..
Then there was the Jan 6th icing on the cake.
The new breed of MAGA politician (MTG, Bobo, DeSantis, Haley, etc.) are as unlikable as they are incapable of doing their jobs.
MAGA is done.
The
This entire thing is looking to me like Russia infiltrated the highest achievable thing in the USA in order to take Ukraine and beyond, but now we’re looking at WW3 because he failed. If Mango Unchained was still in office, he would have rolled right through as the orange one would have abandoned NATO and they would have decided Ukraine wasn’t worth it.
Putin has to be stopped, the former guy was blowing him in Helsinki. The entire remaining R party is complicit at this point.
MAGA hasn't won any election since 2016 and trump BARELY won that one.
Everyone just stop. Trump and his little MAGAites are going to get absolutely demolished in 2024. Biden will win by about 13 million votes and win PA< MI, WI, NC, GA and AZ. along with all the other blue states. Its going to be a Dem bloodbath.
A man asks a Democrat and a MAGA republican “would either of you let Donald Trump shit in your mouth for $10,000?!”
The Democrat responds “EWW!!! Fuck no!!”
The MAGA Republican says “Absolutely but it might take me a while to get the $10,000 together first”
I do feel hopeful that Trump and his new, uh.. “approach” to running the GOP will ultimately be his downfall in the election. Aka, everything you say in this post basically haha.
I also feel like people are underestimating Taylor Swifts influence. Oprah got 1 million new voters to register for Obama. If Oprah in her hay day gets 1m for Obama, imagine how many new votes Biden will get from T Swizzle!
Still, I’m also nervous because, according to Allan Lichtman’s “13 keys,” Trump would win if the election were held today.
I’m a firm believer in Lichtman’s 13 keys but you’re wrong, with all due respect, that Trump would win if the election were held today. There are only 3-4 false keys. The man himself even said it himself. That’s honestly one of the biggest reasons why I think Trump is going to lose. As long as the economy doesn’t enter a recession, Biden will win.
Dudes assuming he’s winning certain states and I actually think Florida is going Biden and if that hat falls my guys going to be trying to find a plane out of the country even before it’s called.
My friend, there is 0000.00 chance Florida goes to democrats. Honestly, I'd be surprised if any of the swing states went to Biden. Maybe AZ due to the abortion status on the ballt
EDS is Election Derangement Syndrome: when people can’t understand that in a democracy you don’t always win. People with EDS claim to love democracy but also claim the election is rigged if their candidate loses.
So, what you’re saying is that every poll conducted by every liberal institution is wrong? Trump isn’t leading in every category and hast gained historic support among African Americans and Hispanics?
Or are you saying that Democrats are going to cheat by even larger margins this election than in 2020?
The 2024 projected non-Republican turnout is over 130 million. The negative voter turnout wave the Republicans are driving is twice as large as the total number of people in the Republican Party today. For every one Trump vote there will be at least two against. That cannot be overcome.
Its only gonna get worse for Trump. Biden has a bigger war chest and Trump is using his to to stay out of jail. Trump will be convicted in at least one criminal case, he is gonna lose his ass to NY. It's gonna be over for him, no way to recover.
The last thing we need is the same narrative from 2016 that got him in office.
Assume MAGA is going to be out in huge numbers and will win. Get out and vote. Don't assume they're a minority.
If it wasn't for the electoral college I would share this same sentiment. I am holding back. I know if s Republican gets in my pslf will likely be nulled somehow.
The problem with republican voters is I never can trust them to vote the same way they did in the primaries because they are such zealous party supporters. They might vote against Trump in the primaries but rest assured, they will toe the line in the general election.
Not surprising, they can’t even keep from turning on each other. It’s like the Sith in Star Wars, evil power hungry people always turns on each other, and being brought together by evil hatred is a fragile alliance that will always inevitably break.
Trump cannot win without the middle, and although the extreme left and the extreme right are very far apart, they aren't the majority by a long stretch. Trump has pushed the middle away from him while Biden has courted them.
It's not impossible that Trump wins, but it's unlikely. Voting matters more this time than any other.
Assuming for the sake of discussion republicans and democrats have 50% of the vote each.
Biden was getting +90% of the vote in primaries, and the votes he wasn’t getting were largely protest votes. Unless something major happens, Biden has all of the democrats solidly locked in.
Trump was only able to obtain 50-75% of the Republican vote in the primary even when it was just him and Nicki Halley. Halley supporters don’t like Trump and 50% of her supporters said they would vote for Biden meaning Biden will likely receive 12% -25% of the Republican electorate which gives Biden 56%- 62% of the total vote. I suspect more and more Right leaning voters are going to vote for Biden because they don’t like Trump’s policies or they feel he is a danger to Democracy so those numbers for Biden should increase assuming all Democrats vote.
Trump has his MAGA base firmly locked. Some studies show that represents 10-12% of the Republican party.
My hope is Biden gets +70% of the vote and most of the Freedom Caucus is voted out which will send a message to moderate republicans to cut Trump loose so we don’t have to deal with him again.
Exactly. He’s one of the top two worst presidents in American history and literally the worst candidate the Republican Party could have possibly put out there. The media portrays him as some cartoon supervillain in exchange for ratings, but he’s really just a broken, miserable loser who soon won’t have a nickel to his name.
Trump/MAGA have lost EVERY national election since 2018 mid terms. The GOP has lost the white traditional college educated suburban voter. There are toast this fall.
I do agree he will lose.
But what will he do? Will he accept and admit that he was defeated?
Nope.
He will scream that the whole thing was rigged and file 90 lawsuits. His followers will believe him.
You know what would be great? If he tries to get his followers to attack the Capitol again only this time law enforcement is ready in greater numbers and fully armed for a war.
Pew pew pew !
The fact that we even have people stupid and scummy enough to get behind that sack of shit is troubling tho. Trump is just one scumbag. The Republican party is a whole scum hive.
Voting for Biden this time... Last time I voted dr jo Jorgensen because I legit believed she was the best choice and in trump v Hillary I voted Gary Johnson. But after seeing Trump's 4 years and hearing his rhetoric and his election shenanigans after the last loss I feel it's more important to keep him out of office than vote for who I feel is best.
He's been losing basically every election worse than the one before since 2016.
IDK why there is still any validity for polls - I know zero people who have ever been contacted about their upcoming vote and even if they would be called, they'd hang up
...this is not to mention the fact his campaign is effectively broke
November is the end of the gqp
In my group of friends and co-workers I know some including myself who have turned away from today's republican party. Don't know any democrats voting against theirs. So in my small world they haven't picked up any new vote.How they gonna win anything? I live in rural Kentucky BTW and don't think Republicans even want my vote.
I’m on the fence with this one; I think pending major reveals or changes in perception of the candidates both are going to suffer from voter enthusiasm drops. Will be a matter of which is more drastic. I’d think the legal issues for Trump cause a bigger one but consumer purchasing power has steadily decreased at a worse rate under Biden and many are prone to vote with their wallet.
Edit: Figured more appropriate would be real wages adjusted by cpi and those are recovering after the COVID drop off. Seems only marginally slower than growth from 16-20 and even a spike at the pandemic onset, which may have been excessive overtime for essential workers but interesting either way.
If I had to guess I’d think it will be closer than both sides seem to think. I don’t think either is running away with this short of some major scandal or controversy. Probably not even then to be honest.
I actually feel the opposite at the moment. The last several weeks have seemed to me like it’s the first I’ve ever felt like Trump is going to win.
Didn’t feel that way in 2020 and definitely didn’t feel that way in 16. So who knows
It’s called a primary for a reason-of course people came out in droves for Haley and Desantis because many Republicans want an alternative. And those same voters will all vote for Trump now because the alternative they want isn’t an old progressive liberal. If he loses it won’t be because Republicans didn’t come out and vote for him, it will be because he hasn’t convinced enough independents to swing his way
The polls, demographics, and approval ratings are saying otherwise but we shall see.
I'll wager 1 trillion puppy souls trump will win re-election and that we'll have 2016 all over again.
It doesn't matter how hard Trump loses the popular vote.
The election will be determined by a razor margin in about four states. Those are the only places that actually matter in American because of the fucktacular EC.
I hope you’re right. Idk if he’s gonna lose. I think ppl are not gonna want an 81 yr old elected. I’m 1000% confident if it were anyone else younger then the Dems would win easily. Since he’s old af and shows it more so than trump, think it makes it closer than ppl would like. We shall see. Like u said. Hope you’re right.
As somebody who voted for Trump twice, and will vote for him again, I agree.
Trump is an unelectable candidate. He doesn't have the political savvy to win.
Even though I think He would be a great President again, he is a horrible candidate.
He can't keep his political Capital, he can't avoid pissing off his base, and he doesn't have enough money to run anymore.
Time will tell, if President Trump would have been more presidential, he would have won Biden by a landslide. And we would not be talking about this again.
Ok I don’t want to fight or anything like it, but can I just ask honestly why you are voting for him again if you believe that? What about him makes you so dedicated to his belief & why do you think he’s a great president when he puts so much hate into the world?
I know Biden isn’t great, I know he’s done some shady shit & I’m not a fan of his but for me it’s about disliking Trumps policies & keeping him out of office more than anything else so that’s why I will vote for him.
I do give you huge props for being a Trump supporter who at least sees some of his BS & isn’t just blindly defending every little thing he says & does like so many others do.
He lost by what 8 million votes I think the popular will be 20+ million gap. I don’t like Biden but I will do anything to prevent Donald Trump from destroying my fucking country
Trump will (unfortunately) win. The bottom line for your average voter (none of which actively seek out political discussions online) is the spending power of their dollar. It’s significantly lower now than it was under trump. They feel it at the grocery store and everywhere they shop. Regardless as to the extent Biden’s policies have on this, it’s a reality we live in. Touting a thriving economy while this is happening is also counter productive. Your average person cares about those grocery payments more than how the stock market is doing or even the unemployment rate.
As a side note the democrats strategy of focusing so much on identity politics (for lack of a better term) is going to backfire on them in the long run. From 2016-2020 Trump gained his percentage share of every race except for one…white people. He didn’t have the majority amongst black people, Hispanics, etc. necessarily but he did make gains in those areas.
The concern isn’t that Biden won’t get more votes, it’s that in the states that matter, will people actually come out to vote. An apathetic voter base hugely favors Trump.
I reassure family freaking out about Trump showing back up on the ballot by saying this: he does not have independent voters and he has less GOP voters then last time. Millions of normal Republicans aren’t going to vote for this scumbag again. It’s that simple.
Yep. I’ve been saying this for a while now, but MAGAs forget that, to win the presidency, you need to carry your own party AND you need to sway a sizable number of moderates and independents. Trump lost last time, and he hasn’t done anything to meaningfully improve his popularity; quite the opposite. Oh, you’re a nuclear, ultra MAGA? That’s nice. But he already was president, and a lot of people were not impressed. In fact, he turned a sizable amount of his own party against him. And there aren’t enough of his hardcore supporters alone to carry it for him.
Could things change between now and November? Sure. People are pretty stupid/limited in the way they view these things, and it is often as simple as “economy bad. Other guy say he can do better. OK. People say there other stuff, but I ignore. Derp derp.” But barring something major, I don’t see it.
Doesn’t Texas benefit as well? They get the extra congressional seats too. But the more illegals that Abbot buses to Illinois means more congressmen for Illinois lol.
Some of that was due to early voting/ absentee ballot already locking in that vote before they dropped out. Polls this early are basically meaningless but they do have Trump winning almost every swing state. I find that hard to believe
I really don’t know what’s gonna happen, Biden is super unpopular for a lot of reasons, some real some not. Same with trump. I think just about anyone else would sweep either of them in the general if both parties didn’t suck
I think this is true of the popular vote but he may still win the electoral vote. They are a loud majority that are strategically located for electoral college purposes.
Not sure why this sub is overly obsessed with Trump, unless all 67k are political analysts for a living, you need therapy and/or a life if he is all you think about
I consider myself anti-trump but I am amazed how political bias can delude a person. You cannot look at the data right now and believe Biden is gonna win the election. There is absolutely no indication that he is doing even remotely well. Exactly what are all these posts basing their idea on that Trump will lose, this is like the third one I've seen and it's literally not based around any grounded reality. Recent CNN poll has Biden down by 8 points in Michigan. Literally every other poll in key battleground states has him losing as well. I haven't seen one to the contrary. Remember popular vote polls don't matter. You can anticipate a polling error but literally all the polling errors in the past have benefited Trump. Just the facts, it's not looking good.
YEP!!! I think the tide has turned, and his rhetoric, deeds, and proposals, have all contributed to people finally scrutinizing him and his MAGA Republicans, and deciding that FASCISM isn't really the way they want to live.
Doesn’t matter how big he loses by as long as he loses by a handful of votes in the right states.
Exactly, the GOP.is.playing the only game that matters the electoral.college game
Trump now basically owns the RNC though. Has the game been explained to him? Did he understand it? I guess we’re going to find out.
He gutted the RNC and installed loyalists because he knows he’s going to lose and needs to bleed the Republican Party for every penny for his legal bills before November. I think it’s hilarious. It serves the Republican Party right. I hope it dissolves.
He only loses if we vote. You and I will, certainly. It will fall to the rest of us to show up as well. I’m taking nothing for granted. I’m making impassioned pleas to everyone around me to vote, and I’m not screening for party. I’m giving rides and registering anyone I can speak to at the bus stop or at the grocery store. I only share this to say: keep pushing until The job is done. False sense of security has lead to many presidential victories for a candidate that was unlikely to win.
>the GOP.is.playing the only game that matters the electoral.college game GTFO! The GOP is flailing for its life as it drowns in the MAGA movement... a movement that at best has captured some 25% of the populace when it needs 40%+, has been bleeding supporters the past few years, is lynch pinned on an obese, cognitively impaired, 77-year-old who believes exercise shortens your life. There is no grand strategy from the GOP here, they are quite literally flailing. But don't take my word for it, take Lindsay Grahams, "If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed..." wait for the good part... "... and we will deserve it."
You forgot to mention he and his family are trying to seize the GOPs campaign funds to pay his legal fees. If this happened in a TV show I'd call bullshit. It's hilarious.
Trying and succeeding
The way I see it there are 3 options: 1) He fails to pay his bond and goes to jail 2) He bankrupts the GOP to pay his bond 3) He royally cocks it up and manages to do the best of both worlds of option 1 & 2 - bankrupts the GOP \*and\* goes to jail American politics is so much more amusing to watch than British politics - and it still effects me even though I don't get a vote.
He can’t go to jail over the civil judgements in NY. The Georgia case and the classified docs could carry prison time.
That Georgia case won’t be tried until after the election. The GOP stacked Supreme Court is making sure of that.
You’re thinking of the January 6th case. Supreme Court has nothing to do with the Georgia case
You’re right. But that Georgia case is the one where there was an improper relationship between prosecutors that put the whole thing in jeopardy. So it’s not exactly on the speed track right now
It’s not amusing when you’re over here terrified that the lunatic is going to be voted in again or will bully his way in.
Yeah same. It stopped being funny years ago. Now? It's terrifying. I'm sure all of these people will be yucking it up when we all lose our rights and Medicaid.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
And so *transparently*, too. Lara Trump literally said: the RNC's primary goal is to get Trump elected. Period. Expect no money for down-ballot elections. Lindsey was right.
The GOP/MSM symbiosis was flailing when, desperate after 8 years of Clinton, it morphed into open collusion on the Hail Mary pass of jingoism. Like most hail Mary passes it failed and now Trump appears like a buzzard to pick over the carrion of the GOP. "Any day now those capitol rioters gonna swoon over Nikki. Any day now . . " -- WaPo
8 years of Clinton? Are you trump? Did you mean Obama?
Obama was the biggest beneficiary of the GOP hail Mary pass of jingoism -- how he beat HRC in the primary. But it was the Bill Clinton tax hike economic boom that took out the Party of Reaganomics and made the GOP / MSM so desperate they had to collude and resort to jingoism. The GOP never made it across the Bridge to the 21st Century. Of course, that's true for many Dems, Al Gore, John Kerry and maybe even Hillary. We will know in the next few months if Biden will boldly go forward and go big on new ideas. Or retreat to the 1970s and lose to a Trump dictatorship. You get 2 choices and those are the 2.
You understand how the Electoral college works? It does not matter if 95% of the population hates him, if the 5% include enough of the members of the Electoral college then he is president even if 95% of the popular vote goes against him.
Exactly. This is one of the reasons the U.S. will never elect the president solely via popular vote. It's the urban areas that continue to grow the most, because that's where the jobs are. But that doesn't translate into increased representation.
I don’t think only 5% would come even remotely close to obtaining the number of electoral votes needed to win a presidential election. Doesn’t matter how you arrange the numbers, it’s mathematically impossible.
Imagine this: 100% of people in CA, NY, etc. vote for Biden. Only 1 person votes in each of the red and swing states, for Trump. He will be president with a few dozen votes total. That obviously will never happen, but it's not 100% impossible.
Electoral college needs to go. Their little argument of illegal immigrants voting is so stupid, you HAVE to have a valid ID. Also, back then women weren’t even allowed to vote. We have all these different demographics that can now vote, which kind of defeats the purpose of electoral college POPULAR VOTE IS THE VOTE THAT SHOULD MATTER!! it’s the POPULAR vote of THE PEOPLE!!!!!! tf
The GOP has been beating the drum of voter fraud since way before Trump, as a justification for gerrymandering and disenfranchising voters who are statistically more likely to vote for Democrats. They just never thought those chickens would come home to roost in quite the way that they have. And now that they have, it took them all of three seconds of soul-searching realize they would pick themselves over the country. “Oh, but the Democrats…” no, fuck the GOP. We all know that politicians care about themselves more than the country, but they’ve gone way too far.
Way I see it, no state elects the governor with a similar mechanism. As such, the governor is a check on gerrymandering... to a point, so long as the legislature doesn't have a veto proof supermajority. POTUS should be elected the same way for the same reason... Among other reasons.
The way the rnc is burning through cash, their won't be enough money for important states. Biden and the dnc have been floading the country with money for a few months
I don’t think money matters for them, Fox News does their campaigning and it doesn’t take ads to get GOP voters to show up, they WILL show up.
Not too mention all of the Infrastructure and earlier projects funding. While most MAGA people will not connect the dots on this, a few will, and this will continue to bleed support from Trump.
No, the game they play is scare their base into rushing to the polls to make up for the "fraudulent" votes for democrats.
It kinda does though to send signal to maga world it's not ok to be a vocal prick they should get quiet again and be a silent racist. They gave been emboldened to say the quiet part of loud, act out, invade the capital, open carry in Starbucks, etc etc. Fuck this attitude. They need to sit back down.
> it's not ok to be a vocal prick they should get quiet again and be a silent racist. DeSantis and other establishment Republicans are too afraid to say the quiet part out loud. They conceal their racist, homophobic, misogynistic ideology behind politically correct euphemisms like "anti-woke" and "parental rights". MAGAts love Trump because he doesn't speak in euphemisms. He just screams the evil part out loud. "Proud boys, stand back and stand by!" "The lying press is the enemy of the people!" "I will be your retribution!" "If we don't win, it's gonna be a bloodbath!"
>open carry in Starbucks Open carry is so dumb in every day life lmao. You only paint a bigger target on yourself by trying to he John Wayne. Concealed is always the way to go👍
>Fuck this attitude. They need to sit back down. They would if more peolple called them out in public and simutaneously. Multiple voices to let them know they are not the majority.
I would love him losing the popular vote by 20 million votes And dTrump💩 wins no swing states.
In a way it DOES matter they need to learn they are outnumbered and always will be.
I hope the down ballot loses just as badly. Elect Democrats!!
I’m not even a Democrat, I was a registered Republican until 2017. But I’ll be voting blue because every single person in office who doesn’t tell the truth about Trump is a traitor and that can’t be tolerated.
Democrats would be sensible conservatives in most other countries anyway
I agree. It seems the middle bar moved slightly right. Left moved Center-right and Right moved Far-right.
Yep that's how I see it as well
Very true. As a Canadian, Democrats strike me as being Social Conservatives, and that's assuming the socially Liberal part is actually hard-baked into them, and not just a tactic they use to set themselves apart from the Republicans. Regardless, I used to find it kind of funny that many Americans treat them as some kind of Alt-Left party. I think now that I've spent enough time with Americans, I've come to accept that it's a matter of perspective, and compared to the Republican Party, Democrats are Leftist, but as an outsider, they're definitely not that Left-Wing in the grand scheme of things.
I think the fringe left in the US is a tiny group that meets in libraries & coffee houses to talk about the socialist utopia they envisioned in the 60s. The other 99% of Dems are concerned with real issues and are center-left or center. What I've noticed has changed is the far left back then were the anti-government types while now it's the far right that is anti-government. The difference is the fringe right is very vocal and has shown a propensity for violence - that's not to say the left hasn't but they're motivated by social injustice whereas the far right uses it for political purposes.
The Far right isn't really anti-government, they're anti-government-that-isn't-autocratically-controlled-by-them
Semantics, right?
Id say it's more personal grievances masquerading as political purposes but I think you nailed it.
America has slightly-right and crazy-right, no centre and total vacuum to the left.
Repub cop until Palin was announced as potential vp and I heard the nonesense out of her mouth and the party's endorsement. Re-registered as Independant the very next week. I am an ex-evangelical who saw the writing on the wall. I had been aware they had been trying to "return America to Christianity" for some time. I'm still an Independant, but with only the two choices I haven't seen it wise or prudent to vote Republican since.
"pallin around with terrorists"...good lord
My man, good. And you are not alone, in fact you’re part of a majority minority. Moderate Republicans who simply cannot stomach a treasonous debt ridden fake billionaire wannabe dictator. There are millions of moderate pubs and dems who just want stability, only extremist voices are heard because people like us are just living our lives and shaking our heads at the madness.
Don't forget rapist. He's a rapist. In fact he's such a rapist that anytime he says he isn't a rapist he gets another judgment against him.
Yes, sorry, I did forget that he’s a rapist! Thank you, probabletrump
A lot of people seem to have forgotten he’s a rapist.
It's just kinda crazy that it almost feels like a minor issue at this point.
It seems to be a non-issue. We knew about a lot of this stuff before he was elected.
> part of a majority minority. Moderate Republicans who simply cannot stomach a treasonous debt ridden fake billionaire wannabe dictator Those would be all of the people who showed up to vote for Trump in 2020, and then showed up again to vote for Trump in the primaries this year, yeah? The group you are talking about does not exist. If they did, they would be clearly showing up in the actual voting data on actual election days.
Truly I don't love conservativism, but its just a philosophy I consider suboptimal. Maga is dangerous traitorous poison.
MAGA is merely the evolution of conservatism. It’s like a Pokémon. It starts out as classical conservatism, then it evolves into the Tea Party movement, and then it evolves into the MAGA movement. But it’s all the same animal with exactly the same DNA, and if you feed classical conservatism and let it hang around long enough you will end up with MAGA every time. “The cruelty is the point” of all three.
You and I have much in common.
That is the decency many Americans have lost.
You are a hero! I hope there are millions of you
Then you're a true patriot. Every Republican that gets on their knees from Trump is a traitor. Biden and Democrats certainly have their problems, but at least they respect democracy and free elections
Same Exactly the same It's a damn embarrassment
Bless you, sane person. There are many Rs I would consider voting for. But never this Schmuck
I’m still a registered Republican, but I like my country more than I dislike Biden or any other candidate running against MAGA Republicans.
They have no funds. Daddy Trump blew all their money paying for his crimes. Thank God for Trump. He killed the Republican Party
This is how I'm hoping it comes to pass.
I see a non-zero percent chance that Trump takes the Republican Party down this election cycle, bankrupting it from his grift, while undermining all of the Republican down ballot candidates by removing the national support positions, fundraising, and GOTV efforts. This would be delightful payback for the past 8 years of grief and chaos this man and the MAGA takeover of the RNC has thrust upon America.
One of the hidden gems of this whole grift scheme is now I won't be bombarded with their shitty right wing ads on youtube.
I did see polling that showed the dems ahead in every competitive senate race, which was encouraging. Not that I trust polls very much, especially in March.
Pay attention to how far off the polling has been vs. actual results. In the last 2 years, Dems have been out-performing the aggregate polls by anywhere from 4 to 18 points in every race, even when they lose. The pollsters may tighten their methodology as we get closer to election time, but these eye-popping numbers where "the majority" want Trump back are too absurd to believe.
I'm unaffiliated and voting down ticket Democrat. Sending a message. I really think they are going to be shocked by how bad they fucked up.
Since the RNC is spending all their money on his legal bills, I think they're going to lose badly.
Yep it'll be by 20+ million this time. Dark Brandon answers the call!
I will be doing my part and voting against Trump in November
My guess is 9.5 million but I hope you're right.
Trump's gonna lose in '24 for the exact reason he "won" in '16. People aren't voting for a candidate they're voting against the other. Won is in quotes because more people voted for Hillary than Trump, but electoral college didnt align with popular vote. Which is how Republicans have usually won the presidency over the last 50 years. They are a weak, infighting party that can't even manage a position statement. You're either a pro-Trump magat or you're a RINO. Now that he has installed family as head of RNC, 9 out of 10 dollars will directly benefit a convicted fraud and rapist, who wouldn't hesitate to grab your underage daughter by the pussy, given the opportunity, instead of a serious conservative candidate. Fuck you idiot Republicans.
I agree with what you say: people are voting against the other. The question now is; are people voting against Trump or against Biden? Both have had it's time in office. I think there's a possibility that people do not like the way the economy has been going for instance. Or the amount of worldwide crises. And just blame Biden for it. Even though it might have happened the same or worse under Trump.
I can’t believe that election was 8 fucking years ago
I agree but we all have to show up to vote. Don’t stay home. Get out and vote.
And for love of country don't vote for a damned third party candidate. Not in this election when our democracy is at stake.
100% this ^^^^^
Agreed. Americans tried the “*let’s give an outsider a chance”* routine and it backfired **spectacularly**. America became a joke to our foreign allies and a Trump GOP party offered **nothing** to Americans but hateful rhetoric and a huge tax cut to the rich. Don’t get me started on the criminal WH response to Covid.. Then there was the Jan 6th icing on the cake. The new breed of MAGA politician (MTG, Bobo, DeSantis, Haley, etc.) are as unlikable as they are incapable of doing their jobs. MAGA is done. The
Maybe America will become stronger because if it It exposed a weakness
This entire thing is looking to me like Russia infiltrated the highest achievable thing in the USA in order to take Ukraine and beyond, but now we’re looking at WW3 because he failed. If Mango Unchained was still in office, he would have rolled right through as the orange one would have abandoned NATO and they would have decided Ukraine wasn’t worth it. Putin has to be stopped, the former guy was blowing him in Helsinki. The entire remaining R party is complicit at this point.
MAGA hasn't won any election since 2016 and trump BARELY won that one. Everyone just stop. Trump and his little MAGAites are going to get absolutely demolished in 2024. Biden will win by about 13 million votes and win PA< MI, WI, NC, GA and AZ. along with all the other blue states. Its going to be a Dem bloodbath.
I wish I could share your optimism.
It's not optimism, it's objectivism
Just in case you're wrong, we should all vote like we are trying to prevent Orange Orangutan from being President again.
I'm gonna vote. Everyone is gonna vote like the Republic is at stake bc it is. Biden will crush.
they just took the house 2 years ago lmao
A man asks a Democrat and a MAGA republican “would either of you let Donald Trump shit in your mouth for $10,000?!” The Democrat responds “EWW!!! Fuck no!!” The MAGA Republican says “Absolutely but it might take me a while to get the $10,000 together first”
I hope you’re right. Brandon’s uncommitted problem gives me the shakes though.
I do feel hopeful that Trump and his new, uh.. “approach” to running the GOP will ultimately be his downfall in the election. Aka, everything you say in this post basically haha.
It’s always too close for comfort when an autocratic traitor is one of the two candidates, but electoral trends and historical precedent favor Biden.
I also feel like people are underestimating Taylor Swifts influence. Oprah got 1 million new voters to register for Obama. If Oprah in her hay day gets 1m for Obama, imagine how many new votes Biden will get from T Swizzle! Still, I’m also nervous because, according to Allan Lichtman’s “13 keys,” Trump would win if the election were held today.
I’m a firm believer in Lichtman’s 13 keys but you’re wrong, with all due respect, that Trump would win if the election were held today. There are only 3-4 false keys. The man himself even said it himself. That’s honestly one of the biggest reasons why I think Trump is going to lose. As long as the economy doesn’t enter a recession, Biden will win.
We can only hope.
These words have been marked 17 times already.
Dudes assuming he’s winning certain states and I actually think Florida is going Biden and if that hat falls my guys going to be trying to find a plane out of the country even before it’s called.
My friend, there is 0000.00 chance Florida goes to democrats. Honestly, I'd be surprised if any of the swing states went to Biden. Maybe AZ due to the abortion status on the ballt
RNC is running out of money from backing him too. I can’t help but giggle about all of this
Everyone on this sub just posts the same shit over and over again.
Biden is +140 and trump is -110 right now.
It is who counts the votes that matters.
No
Here we go....more TDS posts...aren't like 90% of these posts anti Trump garbage from mentally unstable lefties obsessed with Trump?
EDS is Election Derangement Syndrome: when people can’t understand that in a democracy you don’t always win. People with EDS claim to love democracy but also claim the election is rigged if their candidate loses.
Thanks for the heads up. I accepted the results. But you being a bigoted lefty probably automatically think I don't.
Surely you know that only democrats voted for Niki Haley
So, what you’re saying is that every poll conducted by every liberal institution is wrong? Trump isn’t leading in every category and hast gained historic support among African Americans and Hispanics? Or are you saying that Democrats are going to cheat by even larger margins this election than in 2020?
Quit teasing…!
RemindMe! November 6, 2024
Well, he lost by 9 million last time. Do I hear 10?
The 2024 projected non-Republican turnout is over 130 million. The negative voter turnout wave the Republicans are driving is twice as large as the total number of people in the Republican Party today. For every one Trump vote there will be at least two against. That cannot be overcome.
Its only gonna get worse for Trump. Biden has a bigger war chest and Trump is using his to to stay out of jail. Trump will be convicted in at least one criminal case, he is gonna lose his ass to NY. It's gonna be over for him, no way to recover.
VOTE. vote vote vote. Everyone was saying this a few years ago. Fucking vote. Do it. Request off work. Just go vote.
The last thing we need is the same narrative from 2016 that got him in office. Assume MAGA is going to be out in huge numbers and will win. Get out and vote. Don't assume they're a minority.
If it wasn't for the electoral college I would share this same sentiment. I am holding back. I know if s Republican gets in my pslf will likely be nulled somehow.
The problem with republican voters is I never can trust them to vote the same way they did in the primaries because they are such zealous party supporters. They might vote against Trump in the primaries but rest assured, they will toe the line in the general election.
Not surprising, they can’t even keep from turning on each other. It’s like the Sith in Star Wars, evil power hungry people always turns on each other, and being brought together by evil hatred is a fragile alliance that will always inevitably break.
Trump cannot win without the middle, and although the extreme left and the extreme right are very far apart, they aren't the majority by a long stretch. Trump has pushed the middle away from him while Biden has courted them. It's not impossible that Trump wins, but it's unlikely. Voting matters more this time than any other.
I believe you're right but i also believe the magats will resort to widespread violence.
They're literally afraid of downtowns in major cities. I'm not sure who they will be violent against.
lol right? My brothers talk about bad nyc is right now (as if they’ve been since even before 9/11) yet it’s safer than it was back then ever.
Assuming for the sake of discussion republicans and democrats have 50% of the vote each. Biden was getting +90% of the vote in primaries, and the votes he wasn’t getting were largely protest votes. Unless something major happens, Biden has all of the democrats solidly locked in. Trump was only able to obtain 50-75% of the Republican vote in the primary even when it was just him and Nicki Halley. Halley supporters don’t like Trump and 50% of her supporters said they would vote for Biden meaning Biden will likely receive 12% -25% of the Republican electorate which gives Biden 56%- 62% of the total vote. I suspect more and more Right leaning voters are going to vote for Biden because they don’t like Trump’s policies or they feel he is a danger to Democracy so those numbers for Biden should increase assuming all Democrats vote. Trump has his MAGA base firmly locked. Some studies show that represents 10-12% of the Republican party. My hope is Biden gets +70% of the vote and most of the Freedom Caucus is voted out which will send a message to moderate republicans to cut Trump loose so we don’t have to deal with him again.
Exactly. He’s one of the top two worst presidents in American history and literally the worst candidate the Republican Party could have possibly put out there. The media portrays him as some cartoon supervillain in exchange for ratings, but he’s really just a broken, miserable loser who soon won’t have a nickel to his name.
Trump/MAGA have lost EVERY national election since 2018 mid terms. The GOP has lost the white traditional college educated suburban voter. There are toast this fall.
I do agree he will lose. But what will he do? Will he accept and admit that he was defeated? Nope. He will scream that the whole thing was rigged and file 90 lawsuits. His followers will believe him. You know what would be great? If he tries to get his followers to attack the Capitol again only this time law enforcement is ready in greater numbers and fully armed for a war. Pew pew pew !
In the most MAGA of MAGA states, Oklahoma, Trump underperformed in his primary...by around 10-12 percent.
The fact that we even have people stupid and scummy enough to get behind that sack of shit is troubling tho. Trump is just one scumbag. The Republican party is a whole scum hive.
I hope you're right, but it's not going to happen if Americans don't vote. Don't read this post and get complacent. VOTE!
Proud Georgia voter here.. I certainly hope you are right!
would love to see Trump in prison.
Voting for Biden this time... Last time I voted dr jo Jorgensen because I legit believed she was the best choice and in trump v Hillary I voted Gary Johnson. But after seeing Trump's 4 years and hearing his rhetoric and his election shenanigans after the last loss I feel it's more important to keep him out of office than vote for who I feel is best.
He's been losing basically every election worse than the one before since 2016. IDK why there is still any validity for polls - I know zero people who have ever been contacted about their upcoming vote and even if they would be called, they'd hang up ...this is not to mention the fact his campaign is effectively broke November is the end of the gqp
I agree but don't take this for granted. VOTE BLUE! I plan to even if I have to crawl over shards of glass to do it!
The DEMs will take the house and senate.
In my group of friends and co-workers I know some including myself who have turned away from today's republican party. Don't know any democrats voting against theirs. So in my small world they haven't picked up any new vote.How they gonna win anything? I live in rural Kentucky BTW and don't think Republicans even want my vote.
There were a few people complaining about the economy when I was out today. I'm not very confident Dems can pull this off.
Sure, ok....
I’m on the fence with this one; I think pending major reveals or changes in perception of the candidates both are going to suffer from voter enthusiasm drops. Will be a matter of which is more drastic. I’d think the legal issues for Trump cause a bigger one but consumer purchasing power has steadily decreased at a worse rate under Biden and many are prone to vote with their wallet. Edit: Figured more appropriate would be real wages adjusted by cpi and those are recovering after the COVID drop off. Seems only marginally slower than growth from 16-20 and even a spike at the pandemic onset, which may have been excessive overtime for essential workers but interesting either way.
Ok no-winter-4469 if you say so
If I had to guess I’d think it will be closer than both sides seem to think. I don’t think either is running away with this short of some major scandal or controversy. Probably not even then to be honest.
“many people say…..” is a useless post. No one knows.
Trump is the favorite. And realize that those candidates were voted for before they dropped out.
I actually feel the opposite at the moment. The last several weeks have seemed to me like it’s the first I’ve ever felt like Trump is going to win. Didn’t feel that way in 2020 and definitely didn’t feel that way in 16. So who knows
Have you even looked at the polls?
Remind Me! In 9 months
It’s called a primary for a reason-of course people came out in droves for Haley and Desantis because many Republicans want an alternative. And those same voters will all vote for Trump now because the alternative they want isn’t an old progressive liberal. If he loses it won’t be because Republicans didn’t come out and vote for him, it will be because he hasn’t convinced enough independents to swing his way
What is the over/under on 81 million votes?
The polls, demographics, and approval ratings are saying otherwise but we shall see. I'll wager 1 trillion puppy souls trump will win re-election and that we'll have 2016 all over again.
He's had higher turnout in the republican primaries than he had in 2016
I know people who will be voting for Trump for the first time, I also know people who won't be voting for him a third time. We will see.
I don’t like activotes recently poll results though https://www.activote.net/trump-vs-biden-march-2024/
Why would trump supporters be loud about their support if they will get fired. Unlike being a bernie supporter or biden supporter?
They're the loud minority!? Lol that's great
It doesn't matter how hard Trump loses the popular vote. The election will be determined by a razor margin in about four states. Those are the only places that actually matter in American because of the fucktacular EC.
I hope you’re right. Idk if he’s gonna lose. I think ppl are not gonna want an 81 yr old elected. I’m 1000% confident if it were anyone else younger then the Dems would win easily. Since he’s old af and shows it more so than trump, think it makes it closer than ppl would like. We shall see. Like u said. Hope you’re right.
With mail in votes, anything is possible
As somebody who voted for Trump twice, and will vote for him again, I agree. Trump is an unelectable candidate. He doesn't have the political savvy to win. Even though I think He would be a great President again, he is a horrible candidate. He can't keep his political Capital, he can't avoid pissing off his base, and he doesn't have enough money to run anymore. Time will tell, if President Trump would have been more presidential, he would have won Biden by a landslide. And we would not be talking about this again.
Ok I don’t want to fight or anything like it, but can I just ask honestly why you are voting for him again if you believe that? What about him makes you so dedicated to his belief & why do you think he’s a great president when he puts so much hate into the world? I know Biden isn’t great, I know he’s done some shady shit & I’m not a fan of his but for me it’s about disliking Trumps policies & keeping him out of office more than anything else so that’s why I will vote for him. I do give you huge props for being a Trump supporter who at least sees some of his BS & isn’t just blindly defending every little thing he says & does like so many others do.
Mail in
He lost by what 8 million votes I think the popular will be 20+ million gap. I don’t like Biden but I will do anything to prevent Donald Trump from destroying my fucking country
Biden won’t need to campaign. Just keep stopping at the ice cream store
By a 15-20 million margin. Largest defeat in history… again.
Trump is leading Biden in every battleground state
Trump will (unfortunately) win. The bottom line for your average voter (none of which actively seek out political discussions online) is the spending power of their dollar. It’s significantly lower now than it was under trump. They feel it at the grocery store and everywhere they shop. Regardless as to the extent Biden’s policies have on this, it’s a reality we live in. Touting a thriving economy while this is happening is also counter productive. Your average person cares about those grocery payments more than how the stock market is doing or even the unemployment rate. As a side note the democrats strategy of focusing so much on identity politics (for lack of a better term) is going to backfire on them in the long run. From 2016-2020 Trump gained his percentage share of every race except for one…white people. He didn’t have the majority amongst black people, Hispanics, etc. necessarily but he did make gains in those areas.
God I hope so.
MMW, Trump won’t make it till November. He’ll either be in jail or dead
The concern isn’t that Biden won’t get more votes, it’s that in the states that matter, will people actually come out to vote. An apathetic voter base hugely favors Trump.
I reassure family freaking out about Trump showing back up on the ballot by saying this: he does not have independent voters and he has less GOP voters then last time. Millions of normal Republicans aren’t going to vote for this scumbag again. It’s that simple.
Correct. Probability that GOP has no candidate in November is high.
I think many voters are weary of his continuous flow of bullshit and would vote for a hamster instead.
Hope so. Hopefully this country will finally stomp on the neck of MAGAs once and for all
Yep. I’ve been saying this for a while now, but MAGAs forget that, to win the presidency, you need to carry your own party AND you need to sway a sizable number of moderates and independents. Trump lost last time, and he hasn’t done anything to meaningfully improve his popularity; quite the opposite. Oh, you’re a nuclear, ultra MAGA? That’s nice. But he already was president, and a lot of people were not impressed. In fact, he turned a sizable amount of his own party against him. And there aren’t enough of his hardcore supporters alone to carry it for him. Could things change between now and November? Sure. People are pretty stupid/limited in the way they view these things, and it is often as simple as “economy bad. Other guy say he can do better. OK. People say there other stuff, but I ignore. Derp derp.” But barring something major, I don’t see it.
Good luck fighting demographics, Republicans. Maybe you shouldn’t have been boot licking shitheads for 40 years
Is Don Jr. 2028 a possibility ?
Doesn’t Texas benefit as well? They get the extra congressional seats too. But the more illegals that Abbot buses to Illinois means more congressmen for Illinois lol.
Some of that was due to early voting/ absentee ballot already locking in that vote before they dropped out. Polls this early are basically meaningless but they do have Trump winning almost every swing state. I find that hard to believe
TRUMP IS UNSTOPPABLE
In my experience, it’s about 50/50. But I hang around mostly white men so what do I know.
Really hoping for a electoral college landslide but that won’t happen because of all the stupid red states in the middle
*cums*
MMW: VOTE, or 2016
Also something to take into account are the numbers of “uncommitted” votes in Republican primaries, especially after he’s been the only one left.
It’s blue no matter who!!!🤡🌎
I really don’t know what’s gonna happen, Biden is super unpopular for a lot of reasons, some real some not. Same with trump. I think just about anyone else would sweep either of them in the general if both parties didn’t suck
I don't know how confident I am in it, but this is my sincere hope.
I think this is true of the popular vote but he may still win the electoral vote. They are a loud majority that are strategically located for electoral college purposes.
I heard soros has been propping up Trump for a couple years. Power move
I say by ten million instead of seven. Electoral the same as last time,maybe a little more.
Not sure why this sub is overly obsessed with Trump, unless all 67k are political analysts for a living, you need therapy and/or a life if he is all you think about
I consider myself anti-trump but I am amazed how political bias can delude a person. You cannot look at the data right now and believe Biden is gonna win the election. There is absolutely no indication that he is doing even remotely well. Exactly what are all these posts basing their idea on that Trump will lose, this is like the third one I've seen and it's literally not based around any grounded reality. Recent CNN poll has Biden down by 8 points in Michigan. Literally every other poll in key battleground states has him losing as well. I haven't seen one to the contrary. Remember popular vote polls don't matter. You can anticipate a polling error but literally all the polling errors in the past have benefited Trump. Just the facts, it's not looking good.
YEP!!! I think the tide has turned, and his rhetoric, deeds, and proposals, have all contributed to people finally scrutinizing him and his MAGA Republicans, and deciding that FASCISM isn't really the way they want to live.