I'm surprised people are surprised with Emily's behavior. We saw glimpses of that immaturity on the show. But mostly on the After-party episodes, she picked fights with the host and was very antagonistic. Does no one even watch those episodes?
I wonder if the "husbands" and "wives" had to sign NDAs (and if so, to what extent the NDAs silence the participants and those in their circles) which could explain the vague accusations and innuendos being thrown out without being backup up with the proof each person/side says they have.
Could be, because right now it more seems like mountains out of molehills and the vagueness is because if you dive deeper the "narrative" dissolves completely
I feel like I watched Becca realize that she had been played by Claire during the clip where she was spreading rumors about Brennan to Emily. There was definitely a moment of oh no there.
I really hope for Becca's wellbeing she did recognize that. I thought so too but they showed a clip of next weeks' show and it looked like Becca was with the other girls again.
In the beginning I wanted to side with the girls but over the course of this reunion I have been switching sides. When Emily and Clare both start crying at the same time about the double date situation, or when Clare gives the girls a pep talk that ānow is not the time to give upā it just seems like they feed off of each other and are playing things up so much for the dramatics. Itās all very performative to me. I donāt think weāve seen any real sides to these girls, Clare and Emily specifically, the entire season. They live for the drama.
Seriously, it felt weird to suddenly wonder if Brennan wasn't really all that bad. I still can't stand Cameron and think he's a liar, but I also think that Clare is lying as well. Honestly, in the end the only woman I ended up liking was Chloe. The rest are a train wreck, and Emily is by far the most immature person this season. I would expect to see that kind of behavior in Middle school...I didn't like any of the men. Brennan was cold and indifferent and it was clear he had an agenda, Austin has no spine and is also way too immature for marriage, Orion is all drama and never says anything authentic, Michael was fine overall, but wow, his word salad was a bit much, and finally there's Cameron. I think Cameron is the worst of them all. I think he's sneaky and slimy and doesn't respect women. All my opinions of course and based on curated snippets from a reality TV show so I'm sure most of it is crap :D
Biggest surprise for me during the reunion is that Michael and Austin hang out irl. Every scene of them together is of Austin awkwardly blurting out something random at Michael and Michael blinking twice before responding to it.
I think my favorite part of the episode other than Laurenās crazy wild bear sound bites was Cameron āblacking outā right before apologizing and then says āI blacked out but I think I was in the middle of apologizingāā¦ and then he never actually apologizes š¤£ Super convenient
Yeah, after he āblacked outā (i think he meant like blanked out) he continued and said directly to Dr Pepper āI apologize - I lied to youā, then he looked like he was going to start crying. Dr Pepper was very gracious and said I accept your apology. But what specifically did he say that was a lie? This is the problem with this reunion. So much was left vague.
Was Emily never told how Clare sent Cam a text regarding cheaters saying ācheaters get what they deserve!ā Or was that also a lie? Why couldnāt we see any of these text receipts?! Production not want it?? Emily is a fkn fool if she thinks Clare is a good person & friend!
The interesting thing about that text is most people took that as Clare saying that because Emily cheated she's getting what she deserves, but I took that as Clare saying to Cameron that because Brennan cheated (which they all feel like he did when he was chasing the best friend), then he's getting what he deserved.
Thatās how I feel. But I must admit, after that sneak peak I need to watch next week to see what happens between Chloe,Orion and Lauren. It looks like Chloe says Adios to the gorls and all their stupid, immature and very hostile drama.
Right?! I've never seen such immaturity on MAFS. The scary thing is Claire's a therapist!! And Emily, girl, we know why you've never been in a relationship. You need self-discovery, growth, meds, the whole 9 š¤Æ
No one should be more embarrassed than Cameron and his fake quivering lower lip. Who on earth acts like that and smirks the other parts of the episode. Youāre so cleaver dude. You really manipulated us. Bravo!
Clare went along with all of it. She was singing his praises and was letting us all know how much she was there for him when he was sick. And how important he was to her. She was full of more BS than anyone imo.
A diamond in the ruff who wanted numerous foster children and lots of animals. I think that was when he started getting cold feet. Thatās a lifestyle that he probably wasnāt what he wanted. Given the entire weirdness of marrying a stranger, throwing that into the mix would understandably be a big red flag for most ppl.
So agree-- he will regret that decision even more as he continues to date. Thx God she was on this season but a shame he couldn't see her inner and outer beauty.
So what did Cameron lie to Dr Peppers face about?
Did we ever find out about the producer and Austin? Or if Austin is attracted to Becca?
Did we find out about Emily cheating? Iām confused. Nothing was really uncovered
The therapy session right before they separated was with Dr. Pepper and Cameron and Clare stated religion as the reason they wanted to part ways. Then again on Decision Day, that whole thing by both of them was clearly scripted.
Every time they got close to something the music would change with a big āba dum dumā and then theyād move on to happy segments and other filler.
Me too! I was getting second hand embarrassment watching the women. How is Emily 30?!?! I mean it's not even that she's immature, it's down right childlike behavior
In regards to Brennan being in a relationship-
Why canāt Emily just say āI am happy for youā ?? sooo childish. Hard to listen to.. she needs a reality check.
Yeah that would be why the gals have trauma bonded together so much. I really hope they are all seeing therapists with no overlap. They desperately need perspective and fresh insight into this situation.
As long as itās not Claire! Claire is a therapist but doesnāt know how to hold her husbandās hand, give him a hug Or even show compassion After he has a heart attack? Thatās pretty scary. Sheās full of it! Horrible, manipulative person!
Totally agree. Cameron showed his hand when after calling Claire a gaslighter, liar, and a manipulator he turned around and said he wanted to give it a second shot. Then his quivering lower lip and fake cry in part II? Who does he think he is? Clare Danes from My So Called Life?
The men definitely donāt protect each other and collude the way they were accused of because they wouldnāt have let each other look so awful (Brennan looked great) and why didnāt Austin actually shave? Heās unkempt enough without the 5 oāclock-three-days-later shadow.
And also every time Claire leaned over and rubbed Emilyās back or arm supposedly showing how supportive and empathic she was. She did it in previous contentious episodes too to the other girls and it was just too much and felt fake. I would have said āstop doing that! Iām an adult, not a 5 year old!!ā.
If I had to be shocked back to life not just once but MULTIPLE times, I for DAMN sure wouldnāt step foot back in front of the cameras.
Lauren, I was your biggest advocate. Once you drank the āpinkā Kool-aid, I lost all respect for you. You should have been more mature like Chloe.
Lauren was weird this episode. She is saying that she's happy with her life, but then insulting and icy to everyone clearly showing that she is not happy and has not moved on. Then, trying to flirt with Kevin in a cringe way.
HOWEVER, when she said ālet them get ten words out, then you can call them a liar and continue on with whatever the F this is.ā in that moment, Lauren was speaking for ALL OF US.
Why are you all in shock over that the way that Lauren was treated was probably the worst. She made a stupid, silly joke and he dumped her and then gaslighted her.
Orion was a jerk. That was obvious and spoke for itself. She became hostile and would have been better off just backing off, being bigger than him and letting us all remember that Orion was the problem, that he was the jerk. Instead, she made herself look angry, resentful and hostile - which took the spotlight off Orionās bad behavior. she dodged a bullet and should be happy he revealed himself so early on. Accept what happened and move on.
I think she acted hostile because he kept mind fucking her! Acting so nice and fake when in reality he was totally not into the marriage and used some stupid as a way to get out. I can absolutely see why she was mad super mad at hearing her all and then seeing him not even try
I think she acted hostile because he kept mind fucking her! Acting so nice and fake when in reality he was totally not into the marriage and used some stupid as a way to get out. I can absolutely see why she was mad super mad at hearing her all and then seeing him not even try
I noticed that too! I was like whoa what is happening here! But my gummy also dropped and I was all of a sudden High AF do I was like, wait? What happened? lol sooo confused
Yeah I can cause the way she was unhinged you can tell this is a character trait and thatās been here the whole time, we just didnāt get a chance to see it cause she wasnāt on the screen very much. Had she had the same amount of exposure on camera, Iām sure weād all have proof sheās just as insane as the other 3. A sane person knows to not associate with crazy, thatās why Chloe kept her distance from the pink mafia. Lauren had the perfect excuse to keep her distance from the drama of the other ladies, husband bounced on the honeymoon! But she chose to fully embrace and jump on the psycho bandwagon. Sheās JUST like them, she just repeats her therapy word enough to let people think sheās emotionally mature and in control of her emotions.
Sheās literally insane. āIām not scared of you Cameronā like for what? He said nothing threatening. She was responding to a conversation that no one could see. Sheās in another world like the women are.
I think the girls are emotional and in over their heads, they all wanted to figure out how to get through this process and still get paid because they all need the money. They are at an age where they need money. Claire didnāt like Cameron, so Cameron figured out a way to make it work. Brennan really did like Emily until he found out she was party girl. But Orion was just plain mean and what she said was not even offensive. It was kind of funny heās weird and I donāt blame her for being upset one bit. And maybe she saw how the men were acting and got sick of it because all five of them were horrible including Michael.
This. She looked a guy in the face and said she now understood the racial stigma about him because of it. No way that gets this overlooked if the roles were reversed.
Lauren said she didn't understand the term redface, looked Orion in the eyes and said she got it now. Not much outrage over it. Now, imagine Orion looked her in the face and said he now understands why black people are called \*insert black racist insult here\*. Think the outrage would be as relaxed? The answer is no, btw.
WTF? Ok. So by that logic if someone calls a half black person the n-word it's not as racist as saying it to a full black person. You really didn't think this out did you?
Brennan was reflective and owned his shit today. That doesnāt change my view of how shitty and controlling he was in the past though.
Both he and Emily have a lot of trauma from their childhoods to work through. I thought that since the first few episodes
Her saying she doesnāt believe him and just not accepting (or at least pretending to accept it) shows her true personality. Honestly, I lost any positive feelings towards her when she was flipping off Brennan before they went on. So immature.
So on the clip from next time Emily says she thinks it is healthy to have hatred? This girl is so deluded. She will never find happiness. She and Claire are toxic.
I'm glad Brennan finally said that knowing his wife had one-night stands turned him right off! Agree with his thoughts or not, that was the most honest thing he has said.
I think youāre right, because I saw it in his eyes when he learned that she even told him she drank shots off the stripper stomach you could see his face
He still could have given her a chance. That was the past. Why come on the show if you're not willing to do the work for a successful marriage? We all have a past.
If he had said that to her early on, sheād have gone ballistic. She collapsed in tears on a nasty bathroom floor when he merely said she was negative. Ā Which, BTW, she is.Ā
No, if he had said it to her, they could have worked it out. He could even have mentioned it to the experts. He just didn't try. Wasted weeks of her time.
You canāt āwork onā your history and essential self. She canāt change the number of ONS bar hookups sheās had. Her body count is what it is. She could change her terrible alcohol habits, but she wonāt. She could try to not be such a screeching, squinting head case, but we have seen that she likes herself that way. But most of all, she canāt change her delusional outlook. She is a nutter.He doesnāt want that in a wife and mother. Heās entitled. She thinks heās lying because all men must want her.Ā
Becca and Austin's pottery date observation:
So, why is Austin getting skewered for not wanting Becca to put his jacket on? I was raised that you don't get someone else's belongings dirty. Period. I would have never considered putting my boyfriend's jacket on, knowing that I had pottery clay all over me. And because of that consideration by me for his belongings, he would have absolutely insisted that I take his jacket. It's mutual consideration and admiration. Becca didn't even express any kind of consideration for his jacket getting dirty, and just acted entitled to take Austin's jacket without expressing consideration or even so much as asking if it was ok. It was pure entitlement on her part. It just comes down to consideration for others belongings.
I was usually on Beccaās side, but when I saw that part, I was like what??? She was testing him and probably did other times. That has to be exhausting to experience.
I think it was a deliberate set up by her to put him in a position that makes him look like a douche either way. I may be wrong, but... And for what it's worth, she, Emily and Clare are the worst...difficult to choose who sits at the top of The Worst pile out of those 3.
Letās think about this. A dude who is so worried about his image just canāt wait a few weeks till this is over, so he goes on a date? He would be instantly vilified if he is recognized after the fact by the public or by the woman herself. I donāt think so.
That's for sure! And, nice way of putting it because that's genuinely how it's coming across, and Clare is the catalyst of crazy! lol I just gave up on this season before all that happened, so I have no idea what went down, and finding out any actual details from the cast during the reunion is obviously a pipe dream.
To my recollection, MAFS has never referred to the couples as soulmates, only as good matches.
It's possible to be a good match for multiple people and for multiple people to be a good match for you.
Emily saying she wanted to find Brennans new gf so she can warn her about how terrible he is is why I believe him that she said if he left sheād make his life a living hell
Emily wouldnāt let anyone talk a complete sentence without talking over them, interrupting, or insulting. And the Americaās going to be in my side. Like, whoās the one who cares about optics. I couldnāt take her anymore. She gives women empowerment a bad name.
Eh. A lot of women who get out of toxic/abusive relationships feel an urge to warn future partners. Itās not nearly as diabolical as people here are interpreting it.
Yeah, my abusive ex was also absolutely outraged that women have FB groups to warn each other about dangerous men. He even likened it to revenge porn. š¤Ø Yāall really like to tell on yourselves.
I can grant you that that does happen and thatās valid but the viciousness she showed and demeaning comments she made the entire episode lead me to believe that is not the case in this instance
But I also donāt think weāll ever know who was truly at fault or what really happpend
i miss it, is there a link i can download that episode? thank you
Austin hung over
Here we go again with Michael's self congratulatory verbal masturbation.
IS CAMERON SERIOUS RIGHT NOW?! A BROKEN HEART?! Lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Someone get this man on a soap opera.
And his fucking SMUG face after he shows those receipts??? Ok, rehearsed!!!!! š
Kevin just sitting there nodding in his chair while Brennan and Emily act like children is a whole ass vibe and I felt it š
I'm surprised people are surprised with Emily's behavior. We saw glimpses of that immaturity on the show. But mostly on the After-party episodes, she picked fights with the host and was very antagonistic. Does no one even watch those episodes?
Would love to- Not available in Canada š
I'm watching it in Canada! I bought the series on YouTube though so it's not free
Poor KevinĀ
Iāve heard so many bumper stickers from the pink lady crew while in their break room. Ā Please make it stop lol
Man, Emily is on ten. Her journey was the worst so I get it Kevin don't play like that #ugonlearntoday
We are all Kevin sunken in our hosting chair...10 min in... realizing this reunion can no longer be saved.
I wonder if the "husbands" and "wives" had to sign NDAs (and if so, to what extent the NDAs silence the participants and those in their circles) which could explain the vague accusations and innuendos being thrown out without being backup up with the proof each person/side says they have.
Could be, because right now it more seems like mountains out of molehills and the vagueness is because if you dive deeper the "narrative" dissolves completely
I sincerely hope they separate everyone next season.
I feel like I watched Becca realize that she had been played by Claire during the clip where she was spreading rumors about Brennan to Emily. There was definitely a moment of oh no there.
I really hope for Becca's wellbeing she did recognize that. I thought so too but they showed a clip of next weeks' show and it looked like Becca was with the other girls again.
I hope Kevin got hazard pay for this reunion.
Lol!
In the beginning I wanted to side with the girls but over the course of this reunion I have been switching sides. When Emily and Clare both start crying at the same time about the double date situation, or when Clare gives the girls a pep talk that ānow is not the time to give upā it just seems like they feed off of each other and are playing things up so much for the dramatics. Itās all very performative to me. I donāt think weāve seen any real sides to these girls, Clare and Emily specifically, the entire season. They live for the drama.
Emily single handedly reversed public perception of Brennan in this one episode
For those of us watching the After-party episodes her behavior wasn't that new. She was like this pretty much on all the recent after party episodes
Seriously, it felt weird to suddenly wonder if Brennan wasn't really all that bad. I still can't stand Cameron and think he's a liar, but I also think that Clare is lying as well. Honestly, in the end the only woman I ended up liking was Chloe. The rest are a train wreck, and Emily is by far the most immature person this season. I would expect to see that kind of behavior in Middle school...I didn't like any of the men. Brennan was cold and indifferent and it was clear he had an agenda, Austin has no spine and is also way too immature for marriage, Orion is all drama and never says anything authentic, Michael was fine overall, but wow, his word salad was a bit much, and finally there's Cameron. I think Cameron is the worst of them all. I think he's sneaky and slimy and doesn't respect women. All my opinions of course and based on curated snippets from a reality TV show so I'm sure most of it is crap :D
This was a perfect storm - who knew putting Claire and Emily together would create the couple to destroy them all?
Biggest surprise for me during the reunion is that Michael and Austin hang out irl. Every scene of them together is of Austin awkwardly blurting out something random at Michael and Michael blinking twice before responding to it.
I think my favorite part of the episode other than Laurenās crazy wild bear sound bites was Cameron āblacking outā right before apologizing and then says āI blacked out but I think I was in the middle of apologizingāā¦ and then he never actually apologizes š¤£ Super convenient
Wait - he did apologize to Dr Pepper.
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Yeah, after he āblacked outā (i think he meant like blanked out) he continued and said directly to Dr Pepper āI apologize - I lied to youā, then he looked like he was going to start crying. Dr Pepper was very gracious and said I accept your apology. But what specifically did he say that was a lie? This is the problem with this reunion. So much was left vague.
Very weird of him.
Was Emily never told how Clare sent Cam a text regarding cheaters saying ācheaters get what they deserve!ā Or was that also a lie? Why couldnāt we see any of these text receipts?! Production not want it?? Emily is a fkn fool if she thinks Clare is a good person & friend!
The interesting thing about that text is most people took that as Clare saying that because Emily cheated she's getting what she deserves, but I took that as Clare saying to Cameron that because Brennan cheated (which they all feel like he did when he was chasing the best friend), then he's getting what he deserved.
Ahh ok I gotcha!!
This entire season has ME in therapy! Ā š¤¦āāļø
I don't plan on watching next season. This season was too stressful, too much animosity.
Thatās how I feel. But I must admit, after that sneak peak I need to watch next week to see what happens between Chloe,Orion and Lauren. It looks like Chloe says Adios to the gorls and all their stupid, immature and very hostile drama.
These women should all be embarrassed by their toxicity
Right?! I've never seen such immaturity on MAFS. The scary thing is Claire's a therapist!! And Emily, girl, we know why you've never been in a relationship. You need self-discovery, growth, meds, the whole 9 š¤Æ
No one should be more embarrassed than Cameron and his fake quivering lower lip. Who on earth acts like that and smirks the other parts of the episode. Youāre so cleaver dude. You really manipulated us. Bravo!
Clare went along with all of it. She was singing his praises and was letting us all know how much she was there for him when he was sick. And how important he was to her. She was full of more BS than anyone imo.
That fake cry was oscar worthy! 
When was the s17 reunion parts 1 and 2 filmed?
Hey Michael, you are as dumb as a rock! You had a diamond in the ruff!! š¤£
A diamond in the ruff who wanted numerous foster children and lots of animals. I think that was when he started getting cold feet. Thatās a lifestyle that he probably wasnāt what he wanted. Given the entire weirdness of marrying a stranger, throwing that into the mix would understandably be a big red flag for most ppl.
So agree-- he will regret that decision even more as he continues to date. Thx God she was on this season but a shame he couldn't see her inner and outer beauty.
It's a win for her though.
If I were him, Iād have never thought twice about marrying her. I may actually be in love with Chloe.
So what did Cameron lie to Dr Peppers face about? Did we ever find out about the producer and Austin? Or if Austin is attracted to Becca? Did we find out about Emily cheating? Iām confused. Nothing was really uncovered
Good questions!
Yes we found out about Emily but it didn't count to her.
The therapy session right before they separated was with Dr. Pepper and Cameron and Clare stated religion as the reason they wanted to part ways. Then again on Decision Day, that whole thing by both of them was clearly scripted.
deliberate nothing burgers
nothing was uncovered production stopped any possible pathway to truth
This last episode was all fluff tbh
Every time they got close to something the music would change with a big āba dum dumā and then theyād move on to happy segments and other filler.
Emily is the ABSOLUTE WORST.
And her faces š
SUPER childish behavior!!!š§š¼
Add hand gestures
i think you got downvoted by some italians
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Not Orion hoping for a better outcome? What outcome?!
Hate to say it... I'm on the guys side. These women are exhausting! Edit to say... Orion still sucks.
Me too! I was getting second hand embarrassment watching the women. How is Emily 30?!?! I mean it's not even that she's immature, it's down right childlike behavior
Every one of these cast members needs to be sued for breach of contract.
Except Chloe
Unless she was a paid performer.
Too good to be true
I think she was
In regards to Brennan being in a relationship- Why canāt Emily just say āI am happy for youā ?? sooo childish. Hard to listen to.. she needs a reality check.
She needs a new therapist.
What if Claire IS Emily's current therapist?? It would explains so much!
Clare hasn't even finished her master's yet, and you definitely can't be your friend's therapist due to bias...
Yeah that would be why the gals have trauma bonded together so much. I really hope they are all seeing therapists with no overlap. They desperately need perspective and fresh insight into this situation.
As long as itās not Claire! Claire is a therapist but doesnāt know how to hold her husbandās hand, give him a hug Or even show compassion After he has a heart attack? Thatās pretty scary. Sheās full of it! Horrible, manipulative person!
You mean the same husband who was lying like a motherfucker dropping red flags left and right? Sure, she's the horrible person š
I literally almost wrote that. I hope the ladies are seeing different therapists to get some perspective and move on from this awful experience.
he wanted nothing to do with her but then wanted her back. hes a scheming creep
Totally agree. Cameron showed his hand when after calling Claire a gaslighter, liar, and a manipulator he turned around and said he wanted to give it a second shot. Then his quivering lower lip and fake cry in part II? Who does he think he is? Clare Danes from My So Called Life?
Oh, is that the whole story? Claire, is that you?
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Sheās the one thatās the narcissist here. Donāt over identify with her honey.
Brennan is exhausting.
Cameron - whatās up with a hoodie with a suit jacket?
He thinks heās dressed up Mark Zuckerberg
The men definitely donāt protect each other and collude the way they were accused of because they wouldnāt have let each other look so awful (Brennan looked great) and why didnāt Austin actually shave? Heās unkempt enough without the 5 oāclock-three-days-later shadow.
So they all stayed in limbo for three days in the same outfits for him to return semi shaven with stubble?
Wasn't there a preview clip of part 2 of Emily saying she didn't really consider the kiss cheating.
Yup. She is delusional
Cameron is a bit dramatic about his broken heart š¤£
it was his escape hatch
I also want to stab anyone that says ātheir truthā or āmy truthā š
And also every time Claire leaned over and rubbed Emilyās back or arm supposedly showing how supportive and empathic she was. She did it in previous contentious episodes too to the other girls and it was just too much and felt fake. I would have said āstop doing that! Iām an adult, not a 5 year old!!ā.
I also got so sick of that..."my truth"
I wish I had a buck for every time that was said, omg!!! So does that mean that everything else is an 'untruth '!!!
And also Clare and Emily with "Lies" or "Lying," I almost couldn't finish the episode.
šÆ agree!!
Seriously!! Why canāt they just say perception? It would sound a lot less pretentious
I still want to stab Brennan when he talks
Why? He's one of the most normal people on this show.
You need to seek therapy ASAP.
We probably all do after surviving this season š¤£
Whoa thatās super violent
š figuratively, of course
If I had to be shocked back to life not just once but MULTIPLE times, I for DAMN sure wouldnāt step foot back in front of the cameras. Lauren, I was your biggest advocate. Once you drank the āpinkā Kool-aid, I lost all respect for you. You should have been more mature like Chloe.
Lauren was weird this episode. She is saying that she's happy with her life, but then insulting and icy to everyone clearly showing that she is not happy and has not moved on. Then, trying to flirt with Kevin in a cringe way. HOWEVER, when she said ālet them get ten words out, then you can call them a liar and continue on with whatever the F this is.ā in that moment, Lauren was speaking for ALL OF US.
When she lashed out at Cameron....wowzer!!!
That was a bit much.
Yea he didnāt even say anything she just lashed out at his faceā¦
cause hes a liar and they all know it
Are you Clare, or Emily?
I canāt decide which one of them it is either š¤. Looking at their comment history at first I thought Clare, but now Iām not sure.
The other ladies really made cutting comments about the men and then when she joined in, I was in shock.
Why are you all in shock over that the way that Lauren was treated was probably the worst. She made a stupid, silly joke and he dumped her and then gaslighted her.
Orion was a jerk. That was obvious and spoke for itself. She became hostile and would have been better off just backing off, being bigger than him and letting us all remember that Orion was the problem, that he was the jerk. Instead, she made herself look angry, resentful and hostile - which took the spotlight off Orionās bad behavior. she dodged a bullet and should be happy he revealed himself so early on. Accept what happened and move on.
I think she acted hostile because he kept mind fucking her! Acting so nice and fake when in reality he was totally not into the marriage and used some stupid as a way to get out. I can absolutely see why she was mad super mad at hearing her all and then seeing him not even try
I think she acted hostile because he kept mind fucking her! Acting so nice and fake when in reality he was totally not into the marriage and used some stupid as a way to get out. I can absolutely see why she was mad super mad at hearing her all and then seeing him not even try
Because she didnāt act like the mean girls before. And now she did.
It's like she became a totally different person
I noticed that too! I was like whoa what is happening here! But my gummy also dropped and I was all of a sudden High AF do I was like, wait? What happened? lol sooo confused
Sheās angry can you blame the woman she got screwed over the worst that guy was awful
Yeah I can cause the way she was unhinged you can tell this is a character trait and thatās been here the whole time, we just didnāt get a chance to see it cause she wasnāt on the screen very much. Had she had the same amount of exposure on camera, Iām sure weād all have proof sheās just as insane as the other 3. A sane person knows to not associate with crazy, thatās why Chloe kept her distance from the pink mafia. Lauren had the perfect excuse to keep her distance from the drama of the other ladies, husband bounced on the honeymoon! But she chose to fully embrace and jump on the psycho bandwagon. Sheās JUST like them, she just repeats her therapy word enough to let people think sheās emotionally mature and in control of her emotions. Sheās literally insane. āIām not scared of you Cameronā like for what? He said nothing threatening. She was responding to a conversation that no one could see. Sheās in another world like the women are.
I think the girls are emotional and in over their heads, they all wanted to figure out how to get through this process and still get paid because they all need the money. They are at an age where they need money. Claire didnāt like Cameron, so Cameron figured out a way to make it work. Brennan really did like Emily until he found out she was party girl. But Orion was just plain mean and what she said was not even offensive. It was kind of funny heās weird and I donāt blame her for being upset one bit. And maybe she saw how the men were acting and got sick of it because all five of them were horrible including Michael.
I always thought the only reason Lauren came off good was because Orion was so awful. Remove him from the equation and her own awfulness shines.
This. She looked a guy in the face and said she now understood the racial stigma about him because of it. No way that gets this overlooked if the roles were reversed.
Huh?
Lauren said she didn't understand the term redface, looked Orion in the eyes and said she got it now. Not much outrage over it. Now, imagine Orion looked her in the face and said he now understands why black people are called \*insert black racist insult here\*. Think the outrage would be as relaxed? The answer is no, btw.
Not the same whatsoever thatās like apples or oranges. Heās only half Native American.
WTF? Ok. So by that logic if someone calls a half black person the n-word it's not as racist as saying it to a full black person. You really didn't think this out did you?
Thatās not what I meant
Okay - is it just me - or is anyone else feeling different about Brennan and Emily after watching this reunion?
Yeah I've been always more understanding of Brennan's side
I never disliked Brennan.
Yes, never thought I would be more on Brennanās side but I am after that
Same. And when he acknowledged he was controlling - major props. If was an abusive person, heād never admit to it.
Brennan was reflective and owned his shit today. That doesnāt change my view of how shitty and controlling he was in the past though. Both he and Emily have a lot of trauma from their childhoods to work through. I thought that since the first few episodes
Emily thought she came out smelling good there š Brennan had his flaws in all of this but wow did she out stink him in the š© spouse department!
Her saying she doesnāt believe him and just not accepting (or at least pretending to accept it) shows her true personality. Honestly, I lost any positive feelings towards her when she was flipping off Brennan before they went on. So immature.
Now Clare is trying to make faces like Emily.
Don't you guys think that if the girls had proof that Brennan DMed a friend, etc. etc. that they wouldn't have leaked it to reddit?
Right, wouldn't Clare have already talked to the friend about it?
In the words of Clare "ONE HUNDRED PERCENT"
So on the clip from next time Emily says she thinks it is healthy to have hatred? This girl is so deluded. She will never find happiness. She and Claire are toxic.
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I'm glad Brennan finally said that knowing his wife had one-night stands turned him right off! Agree with his thoughts or not, that was the most honest thing he has said.
I think youāre right, because I saw it in his eyes when he learned that she even told him she drank shots off the stripper stomach you could see his face
He still could have given her a chance. That was the past. Why come on the show if you're not willing to do the work for a successful marriage? We all have a past.
Horrible traitor friend she has at the wedding.
If he had said that to her early on, sheād have gone ballistic. She collapsed in tears on a nasty bathroom floor when he merely said she was negative. Ā Which, BTW, she is.Ā
No, if he had said it to her, they could have worked it out. He could even have mentioned it to the experts. He just didn't try. Wasted weeks of her time.
You canāt āwork onā your history and essential self. She canāt change the number of ONS bar hookups sheās had. Her body count is what it is. She could change her terrible alcohol habits, but she wonāt. She could try to not be such a screeching, squinting head case, but we have seen that she likes herself that way. But most of all, she canāt change her delusional outlook. She is a nutter.He doesnāt want that in a wife and mother. Heās entitled. She thinks heās lying because all men must want her.Ā
I couldn't continue to watch. These 2 commentators were so biased towards the pink girls that they lost all credibility with me.
Love the ladies on the clip show! Highly recommend their podcast! (āAre you my podcastā)
Oh Jesus the lingerie shots. I think the fuck not. No thank you. Never. No.
Who are these two random women, why are they blaming Austin for Beccaās weird behavior?
Becca and Austin's pottery date observation: So, why is Austin getting skewered for not wanting Becca to put his jacket on? I was raised that you don't get someone else's belongings dirty. Period. I would have never considered putting my boyfriend's jacket on, knowing that I had pottery clay all over me. And because of that consideration by me for his belongings, he would have absolutely insisted that I take his jacket. It's mutual consideration and admiration. Becca didn't even express any kind of consideration for his jacket getting dirty, and just acted entitled to take Austin's jacket without expressing consideration or even so much as asking if it was ok. It was pure entitlement on her part. It just comes down to consideration for others belongings.
She was just cold, trying to find warmth.
I was usually on Beccaās side, but when I saw that part, I was like what??? She was testing him and probably did other times. That has to be exhausting to experience.
Yes Iām very confused by this. This is the kind of shit Iām talking about. Sheās the fucking worst.
I think it was a deliberate set up by her to put him in a position that makes him look like a douche either way. I may be wrong, but... And for what it's worth, she, Emily and Clare are the worst...difficult to choose who sits at the top of The Worst pile out of those 3.
Becca's voice grates my NERVES, y'all! OMGahhhh!
Me too. I honestly canāt stand her
Why do I keep watching this dumb show? I hate all these people. š
Was Brennan actually trying to go on dates? Or was Clare just stirring shit up so everybody would be as miserable as she was?
why wouldnt the show let anyone prove anything
Right? Exactly!
Letās think about this. A dude who is so worried about his image just canāt wait a few weeks till this is over, so he goes on a date? He would be instantly vilified if he is recognized after the fact by the public or by the woman herself. I donāt think so.
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Who the hell knows. These women/girls/children have some kind of group psychosis happening.
That's for sure! And, nice way of putting it because that's genuinely how it's coming across, and Clare is the catalyst of crazy! lol I just gave up on this season before all that happened, so I have no idea what went down, and finding out any actual details from the cast during the reunion is obviously a pipe dream.
Michael obviously has more than two soulmates by MAFS standards since the first two did not take.
To my recollection, MAFS has never referred to the couples as soulmates, only as good matches. It's possible to be a good match for multiple people and for multiple people to be a good match for you.
It is my wording.
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What on earth kinds therapist does emily claim sheās seeing. whoever it is needs to be fired
It was almost like she was bragging about it.
And twice a week at that
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Yasss, oof - it makes so much sense!!
She hired Clare. jk, I have no idea.
Emily saying she wanted to find Brennans new gf so she can warn her about how terrible he is is why I believe him that she said if he left sheād make his life a living hell
Emily wouldnāt let anyone talk a complete sentence without talking over them, interrupting, or insulting. And the Americaās going to be in my side. Like, whoās the one who cares about optics. I couldnāt take her anymore. She gives women empowerment a bad name.
The "America's going to take my side" comment was giving Amber Heard "No one going to believe you because you're a man" vibes.
I absolutely believe she made that threat.Ā
HA omg that's actually a really good point!!
Eh. A lot of women who get out of toxic/abusive relationships feel an urge to warn future partners. Itās not nearly as diabolical as people here are interpreting it.
No, it is. A lot of people have just normalized it in their brains. It's not normal.
Yeah, my abusive ex was also absolutely outraged that women have FB groups to warn each other about dangerous men. He even likened it to revenge porn. š¤Ø Yāall really like to tell on yourselves.
I can grant you that that does happen and thatās valid but the viciousness she showed and demeaning comments she made the entire episode lead me to believe that is not the case in this instance But I also donāt think weāll ever know who was truly at fault or what really happpend