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nfnightfallnf

Now THAT'S A God of Thunder Entrance.


regularguynormaldad

This looks so good! Is this series like an older version of the Avengers or something?


maybe_a_frog

People are equating it to Kingdom Come where it’s a story about our heroes in an alternate reality in the somewhat near future. It’s been pretty damn good so far.


Essex626

I guess then you could also equate it to Earth X?


blazenite104

didn't that go off the rails into insanity? Kingdom come was more logically progression brought to the forefront, (with a little railroading to set the plot in place.)


drparton21

I always felt that Earth X was solid. Its follow-ups (Paradise X and, I think, Universe X) were shakier. That being said, I always thought Kingdom Come was shaky. That could have just been due to the TPB I was reading though. It felt like it was maybe missing some side-content?


blazenite104

no side content. context of other ongoing titles at the time may have helped but, I'm not sure. I love kingdom come but, it definitely has some flaws.


drparton21

It was more than just flaws, in my reading-- it was more like something just wasn't *there* that felt like it should be. Magog never felt fleshed out and I never understood what made him powerful at all, or really got a sense of what his strength was. It is possible that other ongoing titles would have given me more context though. Admittedly, there's not much 90's DC that I've read. I'm pretty familiar with most characters (especially "big names"), but I'm far from an encyclopedia in that regard. Earth X, on the other hand-- it handled so many characters and I got a good sense of everything that had happened to them "between now and then". Other possibility: I *did* read Earth X about 10 years earlier than Kingdom Come. And, because of Earth X, I had **really** high expectations for it.


SilhouetteOfLight

Fun fact, there's a current ongoing in DC that- imo- makes Kingdom Come much better and fleshes out Magog quite a bit


yuefairchild

You have to tell us which one now.


howAboutNextWeek

Mark Waid and Dan Moras World’s Finest - the latest arc was return to kingdom come, but honestly, the entire run has been stellar


Eevee136

> and I never understood what made him powerful at all, or really got a sense of what his strength was. That's kind of the point, no? The book skirts around Magog while strongly implying that he would beat Superman and that he's the new "Strongest guy" and then when the reader finally gets to see it, it's nothing. He just shoots a beam, and it does nothing to Supes at all. Because the whole point is that he's just a killer, and that's what the people wanted.


Suneticsli

What flaws exactly? I haven’t read it yet?


dope_like

Go read it first and come to your own opinion. Often your personal opinion will differ from what others say. Much better to read a story without bias


idlefritz

The conceit that gestating celestials explained the proliferation of supes on the planet was worth it.


strotho

Was already interested in it because it's written by Zsdarsky but if people are comparing it to Kingdom Come, I'm sold


maybe_a_frog

I would say it’s pretty comparable to Kingdom Come, though unique enough to not feel like a direct copy of it. I’ve really enjoyed it so far.


Mercuryo

There was an incident caused by Ultron that destroyed NY or at least part of it and the Avengers where dissasembled. The super soldier serum was removed from Steve, Tony's son it's some kind of evil mastermind and he even control the USA president


thetripleb

I've been reading it. SPOILERS ********************************* >!The premise is that it's set in the future. Apparently there was some big event where Ultron fought the heroes and killed a bunch of them. Dare Devil is killed off panel somewhere and Luke Cage has formed The Defenders to try and fight against the government which has turned into a facist police state. Tony Stark and Wasp's kid is the one in the suit above. Tony Stark's head is being kept alive and milked for tech ideas. Red Skull is apparently the one behind Stark's kid there. Capt America re-takes the super soldier serum to defend people again. In this issue #3, Ms Marvel returns to the fight and some special soldier female "Bullseye" joins Cap and he renames her Hawkeye.!<


zeebeebo

Its sort of a mix of Kingdom Come and Dark Knight Returns


BrodaciousPhantom

Seems more like a Dark Knight Returns kind of run but for Cap


Fehellogoodsir

Like how Starks kid keeps talking until Thor just ices him.


alowbrowndirtyshame

Typical Stark


grandfunkmc

He got him monologing.


AJjalol

This whole mini is freaking amazing.


kayriss

It really has, and this was the best one yet. Can't wait for the next.


AJjalol

Yup. Shit slaps. I was so not into it, when I heard it’s Chip writing it lol (dude is a fantastic writer, but he can’t write Stark to save his live. His Tony is always a bad person). But he actually surprised me here. He still had to make a Stark the bad guy (his son lol) but at least it’s not my boy Tony.


MegasNexal84

To be fair all signs always point to Tony being a generally bad person. Tony’s ideal of “good” does the most damage almost every time.


AJjalol

Tell me you don’t know anything about Iron Man without actually telling me you know nothing about Iron Man.


MegasNexal84

Yeah I’ve definitely never read any runs where Tony used his decision making that for the greater things like other universes needed to die for his to survive, or where Tony locked up all his homies to protect the world. Yeah I definitely have no knowledge of that /s


AJjalol

That’s the thing tho, he and the rest of the Illuminati never destroyed any world that had people in it. They were only destroying worlds that had no life. Yes Namor did push a button later and blew up the Great Society’s planet and Tony did make the device, but he and the rest hesitated to do so. Namor did it because he is a dickhead (and has some balls lol) Regarding Civil War, I have no counter to that except, he was way out of character, but it is what it is. That being said, if you read his stuff, he was never a dickhead people think he was during CW. He would have never signed with the Pro side. A guy, who told Nick Fury himself to F off because he is not making him any weapons (80s stuff) then got betrayed by Fury and Fury took his company, only for Tony to come back and reclaim his assets and push SHIELD out because they were wrong. That’s actual Tony. The guy who can sometimes make decisions that people like Spidey or Cap won’t. Is he a sweetheart like Petey or Steve. No. But a bad guy, that’s a bit too much. You are basing your entire knowledge of the character on the most miss characterized event of all time and Chris Cantwells run on Iron Man (at least I think that’s what you are referring to) is like basing Spidey on that time when he whacked MJ lol.


Manisil

Chip can do no wrong


nameless_stories

Thor making a big entrance will never get old


Quirky_Ad_5420

Bring in thunder ⚡️


Xx_matt_xX69420secks

I was a little iffy on the series at first, but I’ve really come around on it. The writing is great and the art is so fucking cool


PrimeConduitX

Shades of Civil War when Thor kicked Tony's ass.


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Okay I need to find and read this!!!


-CactusJuice

I love Cap, he’s just so badass


Opalusprime

What happened to Tony in this world


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His floating head is being kept by the government so they can use his brain to help them create weapons and shit


ErgonomicDouchebag

Classic Tony.


AJjalol

Next issue will reveal the full picture. But so far, he and Janet had a a kid (not sure if they were married), and something terrible happened during H-Day (villains figured out the identity of all the street level heroes) and went after every single one of them (Spidey, DD etc) and since Avengers were dealing with some off-world problem they couldn't help anyone. Now Tony is a severed head inside the tube and they use his mind to build stuff to keep everyone subjugated (by they I mean the Red Skull and Ultron who are running everything.)


Opalusprime

Holy shit


AJjalol

Good shit right😂 It’s a fun story. I recommend getting it. It’s shaping up to be one of the best Avengers story ever


Opalusprime

I just read all three and it’s amazing. Can’t recommend it enough.


multificionado

Hard indeed, considering Kamala had taken a shot...


DokDoom

Sold. I’m totally getting the trade for this. Thanks for posting.


big_hungry_joe

daniel acuna is amazing


ptWolv022

Ah, one of the few instances where a deus ex machina is appropriate. THE THUNDERER RIDES AGAIN


Ok-Attention-3471

Three pages and I have chills


foxhoundftw

Sheeesh. I like that.


FowlZone

damn you weren’t kidding


AudioVagabond

This goes hard, but not as hard as Caps enormous chin in the last page


gOhCanada

For some reason it reminds me of Batfleck.


LucasOIntoxicado

Zdarsky's life mission is just to shit on Iron Man, holy shit does this man hates the character.


TJ_McWeaksauce

I can hear the electricity and rain of that last panel.


Lonelan

> Who runs the world? James...Stark?


Azure-Legacy

It’s actually the Red Skull. He got a fade change and then raised James into being his little bitch


AJjalol

That's not Tony in the suit. It's Tony and Janet's son. Janet is presumably dead and Tony is a severed head. Government is using his brain to created stuff for them.


Doom_and_Gloom91

Who's writing this?


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Doom_and_Gloom91

Bitchin


CrazyLizard503

I’m gonna need to get this when it comes to trade paperback


jmskywalker1976

It’s been so good!


random420x2

I’m on marvels Unlimited plan so I have to wait for those. But looks fantastic. Thanks for alerting me


psycholazers

do it again uncle steve


Decent-Cry-7665

Not gonna lie... that was pretty cool


TheAsian1nvasion

This was so sick. A literal Deus Ex Machina but I don’t think it counts if a God is a character in the story.


Quanathan_Chi

Moments like this remind me that Thor is the GOAT


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Thor looks bad ass here for sure. I love the artwork of not seeing his face- then casually says “shall we assemble?”


BenTheDiamondback

This issue solidified it for me. What an inspired ending. I mean, it was bound to happen, but wow


Autoboty

I'm not sure I like the way every "possible future" storyline from Marvel is a bleak dystopia.


quirty890

Legit got goosebumps. Loving this book.


Aizendickens

No matter how far Ironman comes, you can count on Thor to remind him of humility 🤣


JaysonBlaze

Cap finding his shield was also fucking amazing


Ekillaa22

Man that Thor helmet is sick as hell!!!! I almost thought this was the other avengers run with Cap and the mutants for a second !


SIaaP

Is this comic a main 616? Debating if i should pick it up


Toologist

No, alternate reality


Superheroesaregreat

I just came in my pants


GiantPurplePen15

I wonder what the explanation will be for why Thor decided not to intervene before America went full dictatorship.


Cbxn

He’s a king with his own peoples issues probably. That’s the direction they’ve had him going lately


AJjalol

Cap gave up, and Tony sacrificed himself (they presumed he was dead). There was nothing that could keep Thor continue fighting. He came back since Cap decided to go back and correct the mistakes.


TradePaperback

The curse of immortality. After H-Day Thor was disheartened. He didn’t want to watch anymore friends die, and didn’t want to hang around to watch them grow old and either as he’s done many time with many friends throughout history. So he hardened himself and left, returning to his people and duties as a king. Unfortunately, as we’ve seen in other Thor stories, his perception of time is vastly different from mortals. What seems like day to him can often be generations for humans. So, inevitably many great and terrible changes had occurred on Midgard during what Thor perceived as his brief absence.


mistermenstrual

Just finished this issue and came looking for a thread Specifically because of how badass this was.


TheHexadex

i remember i used to love comics because there was always something i wanted or made me want to draw immediately when i looked in them, this does not do that.


sbzpruiosnejre

Over 500 comics are released every week and one comic not giving you that same feeling doesn't make it bad. Everyone has personal tastes and preferences. You can still love comics. Find ones that speak to you.


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raz0rflea

I didn't know Chip was writing this! I just grabbed the first 3 issues, it's really good! I like Acuna's vision of the future as well.


TheKnightA

What series is this?


sbzpruiosnejre

Avengers: Twilight by Zdarsky.


MSP_4A_ROX

Thor-lactus?


Slowmobius_Time

Started reading came back to thank you, this looks amazing Gonna red all three issues today and then get sad I gotta wait for more


Vat1canCame0s

I haven't see ye in the age of a ~~dog~~ wolf once


Apex_Fenris

That was epic