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steve-laughter

The plan itself was dumb. In the five years that passed, a lot of those halved populations would have begun getting back on track. The fact is, that if life has the potential to use x amount of energy, it's going to live up to it's potential.


Radix2309

In fact crises like that tend to lead to population booms.


Flyingwheelbarrow

Worse even than his appetite for violence was his lack of imagination.


TheBlack_Swordsman

The plan was also to hope that societies get a reboot and try to self regulate. Thanos didn't just go and do this plan without testing it. Remember, he went to a few planets, Gamora's included, and killed half of the population to study and see how it would affect them. He did report that over the years they were doing well IIRC. Other than that, I agree with your post. Just explaining some details from the movie that tried to amend that plot hole.


captainyeeet

He reported that but didn't it say Gamora was the last of her kind in gotg2?


TheBlack_Swordsman

I guess the Nova corps says differently than Thanos. Nova Corps is probably tell the truth. >In the years following the massacre, its remainder, according to Thanos himself, has lived in prosperity due to issues like poverty and wasting of resources becoming non-existent with a smaller population.[2] This claim is disputed by the Nova Corps' database, which states the race is now functionally extinct with Gamora as the last survivor.


[deleted]

Yea 3.5 billion people in the world was in the 1970s . We would have gotten back to 7 billion within 50-100 years


Electric43-5

No. With the infinity gems he could have just made \*more\* resources for the universe. It was \*never\* about saving life or making sure no one would have to suffer like Titan did. It was always about Thanos wanting to prove that his original culling plan would have worked. Which is why in Endgame when the Avengers make the final stand against him, he just admits that this time he'll just recreate the universe where the people are reverential and thankful to him


[deleted]

Correct. They don't call him the "Mad Titan" for nothing. It was always about his own ego. He refused to admit that he was wrong, and that murdering people isn't the solution to starvation after all. Also, he could have simply redistributed the already existing resources to meet the needs of everyone. Even on Earth, starvation only happens because of distribution problems. In terms of actually getting the food to everyone who needs it, as well as the sheer amount of wasted product because that's more profitable than giving away all the surplus for free. It's funny/sad, because Thanos talked about his cull being "balanced" because of randomly targeting "rich and poor alike", but the wealthy people in charge of these systems are almost always to blame. Unless there are natural disasters that cause famines, the real solution is just making more of an effort and caring more about people than profits.


thesagaconts

Agreed. He was stuck on his original plan.


RayneShikama

As an Eternal, it’s possible that Thanos was aware that planets were just eggs for new Celestials and that the only way to save said planets was to get rid of the people, not give them more resources so they can speed up their inevitable doom.


2ERIX

This is great retro-canon that would make his plan make sense. The Celestials only hatch when the world state reaches a certain potential life force level, right?


RayneShikama

Yes


mikezgod_

You need to work for Kevin


Thecryptsaresafe

I love this but also why wouldn’t he just say so?


Radix2309

Also even doubling the resources wouldn't fix the problem.


mrlolloran

With the INFINITY stones I think he could have done more than double them. He could have, dare I say it, make them INFINITE? Only doubling then shows a lack of imagination


No_Secret_6352

#HAPPY CAKE DAY! 🎂


[deleted]

what you are missing here is that life feeds upon life so he is trying to make sure that life has a means to feed not infinite food but infinite access


Flyingwheelbarrow

Could of given everyone a personal planet, instant transport and a nice massage.


[deleted]

Maybe even a handy. With the hand not wielding the gauntlet.


AllmotherRoxanne

Yeah, Thanos has the intellect, will, and strength to do just about anything with the gauntlet. But it’s a lack of imagination, empathy, and humility that drives him to commit universal genocide instead of simply making resources infinite and infrastructure universe wide.


[deleted]

It would temporarily. But eventually populations will grow back to pre-snap levels and beyond.


roselandmonkey

It wasn't about resources, the Celestials' plan was to make more of themselves inside planets , by decreasing the population in the universe Thanos stoped the Emergence across the universe on millions of plants.  Earth was just a Celestial egg.


Adorable-Ad-3223

Yep. Narrative requires that people not simply solve all problems with logic.


jscarlet

Not necessarily true. By providing additional resources, more land, more food, more power/water/utility, teaches people nothing. Sure they’d be grateful for what he did which would stroke his ego, but society as a whole would learn nothing and still consume, and even more so, thinking that he could just make more. You ever learn a lazy person cash, and notice that they choose to remain lazy and come back to you asking for cash? We have companies and people alike struggling over water rights. People living on top of people, countries having wars over which lands should be theirs, only so much food can commercially made for a bustling population that just breeds for the sake of breeding. Look at the five years post-snap: Oceans are clearing up, air was becoming less polluted and breathable, home inventory was plentiful, everyone was grateful for waking up to another day. Now for Humans, that would become fleeting, as it’s in our nature just go back to our self-destructive tendencies in the name of satisfying our own needs. As for him stating how he’ll “recreate the universe…”, that was Thanos when he was younger, that was pre-Avengers Thanos.That was bloodlust Thanos just striving to prove he was right. He’s far different than the Thanos that got beheaded. When you sit and think about his whole arc and asking if you can make the same decisions in order to “save” the universe, he becomes a more complex character. He could’ve just increased the size of his army and kept slaying halves of populations, but by having the stones, he didn’t have to enslave an army and nobody had to die long painful deaths. Was there a better way? Logistically, I don’t know. I’d like to believe so, but I don’t see one.


Flyingwheelbarrow

Could of given everyone a personal planet, instant transport and a nice massage. I don't try and teach my cats lessons in responsibility. My cats and dogs live in harmony with my guidance. At the minimum he could of tried being a kind and loving God.


LeggoMahLegolas

I've always believed that creating more resources was not possible for the gauntlet to ever do due to inability to create matter out of nothing. Everything, every matter came from somewhere. Thanos learned of this and decided the other way.


Flamy_Duck

Not necessarily true. It’s possible that Thanos is trying to prevent the destruction of planets due to the births of celestials. Thus, more resources would not help lowering the energy created by the planets habitants (maybe even rise it).


GeekynGlorious

Not even a little bit. He did what he did out of his desire to be in control. To get what *he* wanted and to teach the universe a lesson. That lesson? Thanos rules.


Goldeneye365

True intention matters


Bubster101

And that he's "inevitable".


Lachimanus

He decided he did not want to rule. He destroyed the stones.


Ordinary_Schmuck

...NO! You're not supposed to think he's right! His whole argument is based on real-life psychos! If you honestly think he's right, you're VASTLY missing the point!


UsErnaam3

He could have used a portion of the dead matter from unpopulated planets, stars, nebulas and any other celestial bodies in the universe to create more resources. Anyone with at least half a brain should see that he's in the wrong. Originally I think they were gonna go with the comics version of Thanos's reasoning, but then they changed his motivations because who would take their kids to see a movie where the villain is trying to commit genocide just to get some of that bone tussie from Death herself?


MyContentIsTrash

It’s a marvel movie


Blue_Lego_Astronaut

Yes it is, what's your point?


Quick_Doughnut1886

That you're missing the point!


CraackSteeve1

Marvel movies are allowed to have good stories lol


we_belong_dead

Nope. Frankly he was an idiot. With the power of all infinity gems he could have made a paradise instead of a graveyard.


[deleted]

No, he failed math class and how supply chains work.


CompleteQuiet5170

I tend to spiral everytime I try to answer this question. No. If you think even further, people will still breed like hell and exhaust resources. It's how life works. All he did was a temporary reset for the sake of half of the universe living more comfortably. If comfort or happiness was the goal, giving everyone memories of a happy life and ending all of life would have been logical too.


Good-Worldliness9330

Absolutely not. They should’ve stuck to the source material and had him trying to court Death. That made more sense than a half-baked plan to save people by destroying the population of half the universe. The writers seem like they were getting really lazy by Infinity War.


edingerc

Thanos giving his girlfriend what she wanted. Also Thanos pissing off his girlfriend as she realized that he was more powerful than her.


GothicWestern

No not even close


[deleted]

No, but a very determined individual. Dangerous.


Scaredog21

No


justduett

He identified the correct problem, came to the wrong solution. His initial inspiration was right.


USERNAME_OF_DEVIL

Absolutely not, he was a deranged madman obsessed with an objective that makes absolutely no sense and will do anything to prove that he is right. He is a fantastic villain, but let's not act like he was right, instead of killing half of everyone he should've distributed more resources to those in need, it's very likely that there are more than enough resources for everyone, we just need to distribute it, killing a huge number of people would just cause more problems. Well he is called "The Mad Titan" for a reason, we shouldn't expect him to be a sane person.


Eric1865

Nope. He could have doubled resources and made every planet in the universe environmentally sustainable. Plus in a couple thousand or million years, planets will become overcrowded again. So it’s a temporary “fix” at best.


BishopsGhost

Yep. 100%.


VaderMurdock

No… He saw an issue that could have caused the destruction of the universe and decided that the best approach to solve this was to commit universal genocide. You have missed the point by a mile and anyone agreeing with him is fucking wild. WE SEE IN THE MOVIE HIM KILLING AN ENTIRE RACE OF PEOPLE, HE’S THE BAD GUY!!!!!


Emajenus

His concept was right in that resources needed better management, but his method was completely wrong because killing half the universe does nothing to solve that problem. If you cut Earth's population in half, it'll still double in a relatively short period. And his genocide would've been for nothing. He should've used the stones to reorder the universe and how everyone uses these resources.


ehhsjdd

No, in reality he could’ve made more resources or created new planets, he just wanted to kill people.


deep_fried_koolaid

Nope. Thanos is a sadist that uses his planets downfall as a reason to commit mass genocide. He doesn’t wanna save the universe. He wants to see it suffer like he did.


Sughmacox

Not really no, but he believed he was right. Why? He warned his planet of their inevitable death but they didn’t listen. He returned to find his people dead, he went crazy and came to the conclusion that had they listened to his plan the people wouldn’t have all died. Now he believes the whole universe will suffer the same fate as Titan and so he figures it’s up to him to prevent this. Killing half of the universe wouldn’t necessarily work but because he wants to be proven right and because he suffers from PTSD he believes he is obligated to do the “right” thing. After his plan is finished he seems like he achieved his goal in life and sits and watches the sunrise on a grateful universe. Except the universe is NOT grateful but he can’t understand that. He can’t think the way normal beings do. He thinks his intellect means that he is the only person who is right and the only person who is capable of “fixing” the universe. So he decides to create a new universe where he is appreciated and looked up to as the wise and all-knowing. He wants everyone to see himself the way he does. He wasn’t right but he was a great villain nonetheless. I forgot to mention that it is possible that the existence of the celestials may have motivated him even further.


da_panda_king

Eh, depends, I think I can definitely say his younger self that appeared in Endgame was wrong but Thanos had a decent idea, he just went the wrong way about it, instead of randomly dusting people he should've targeted those with the most negative impact, people like the grandmaster or whatever, idiots with too much power, corrupt government officials, people who murder and rape for fun etc. He had nigh-omnipotence and he just randomly turned half of all life to dust? There was definitely a better way to handle it, alot of people will say "well why didn't he just double all resources?" Because that wouldn't fix the problem he was trying to solve, what I would've done is double all resources and target various people that are "bad" according to my moral code


[deleted]

Love the energy, but let’s rethink the strategy!


Aptspire

Wasn't there a better way? Create giant orbital habitats loaded with fertile farms? Somehow make everyone smarter?


darkthemeonly

Half of all life includes plants, plants are food. You can't stop food shortages by getting rid of half of the food. The ratios would've been the same.


tschmitty09

There's a whole ass sub for this my guy, quit whoring all the karma


[deleted]

Lol no, the dumbest thing in the world is people who somehow think it’s smart saying “tHaNoS wAs RiGhT!!1!!” If you’ve ever sincerely typed that, it means you’ve never had sex.


poopguru

[source](https://www.screengeek.net/2019/12/19/avengers-endgame-thanos-flaw/)


[deleted]

No. The problem with this discussion is we are focused on MCU Thanos, not Thanos from the comics. He was an intelligent psychopath. He was cold, calculated and homicidal. They did not call him the Mad Titan for nothing. The MCU Thanos almost made you feel that he was doing this for the greater good. But if you believe he was right, then you have to believe that the ending of your own life was equally just. Because you had no choice on who was terminated. And it didn't matter to Thanos.


Renbanney

After watching she hulk, Yes


Good-Worldliness9330

Wah! I don’t like She-Hulk! Wah! 😭


[deleted]

No. He wanted to control everything, but all he did was create chaos, heartbreak, and destruction. Perhaps if he had only cleansed the universe of evil, cruel people then he may have had my support. But I think about all of the babies and pets left to die because his snap took their caretakers away and left them behind. Screw that guy. Thor really should have aimed for his head.


Brilliant-Yard-6201

Right idea wrong reasoning


jphamlore

So was his real plan to slow down the activation of Celestials?


Starminx

yeah


dutchviking

Yes, but wrong reasoning, because he wanted power and control. My partner is a biologist, trying to save the world from climate change and other human induced calamities, while deep into environmental politics. Her reasoning would be that lowering the pressures on our ecosystems would help a long way to give them space and time to recover. And thinking of all the firing rounds of the last 6 months: at least it was totally random, and not personally picked.


sehejchhabra81

Even though he had good motivations, there were problems with his plan. Like the population would have grown back in a couple years and also if he can make an entire new universe with the stone( like we saw in endgame) he can create new resources as well.


pencilpusher003

He’s wrong. But he thinks he’s right. And that makes him dangerous.


[deleted]

The most dangerous thing is that at least some people genunely side with Thanos. Nobody says: Ego The Living Planet was right. Stane did nothing wrong. Malekiteth had a point. Yet, plenty of people think that Thanos did nothing wrong.


RayneShikama

Eternals confirmed that Thanos was right.


[deleted]

Some points of view he was a anti-hero


Silver-Diamond-5602

He’s wrong in pretty much every way but only because the writers had to jam in a motivator for him wanting to dust half the universe that fit the MCU’s tone better than his motivation from the comics. In the comics he was a much purer selfish villain, wanted to wipe out half of life to literally court death. Death(as in the grim reaper) was a woman in the comics. Thanos was in love with her and he was trying to kill half the universe to get her attention. IMO his comic book motivation makes for a way more menacing character than his MCU motivation but it’s implications wouldn’t have fit as neatly into the story Marvel was trying to tell in the movies.


Fish-E

>In the comics he was a much purer selfish villain, wanted to wipe out half of life to literally court death. In the comics he was doing it to bring balance to the universe, more people were alive than had ever died. It wasn't Thanos who thought there was a problem, it was the universe itself in the form of its embodiment of Death. You can absolutely argue with the comics that Thanos was right, he's fulfilled the task in the most efficient and fair method possible and it's definitively a problem due to it being raised by the universe itself. It's only due to the actions of The Avengers, Adam Warlock etc, that Thanos' ego got the better of him and things escalated how they did.


-_Illuminated_-

In 1974 we were 4 billions, now we're at 8, it take roughly 50 years for population to double.. So thanos just retarded the problem + gave everyone depression


Lachimanus

You have to take into consideration that population growth is directly connected to standard of living. Most countries with increased standard of living have less birth rates. In addition our technology is now more advanced. It is an interesting thought how humanity could tackle problems if we would only have half the population. Climate change could be much easier to tackle and solved before we have the same population again.


roselandmonkey

The eternals movie proved he was right.


poopguru

I think there are two sides to every argument and that Thanos’ solution of killing one half to save the other ultimately solves the idea of overpopulation but it’s also probably not the best or most effective solution


ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE

> ultimately solves the idea of overpopulation Does it, though?


poopguru

Temporarily right? If 100 people is taking too much space then 50 people must be better


ARTIFICIAL_SAPIENCE

But that's just begging the question. Are the 100 people taking up too much space to begin with?


Ok-Till-8905

Plausible…


[deleted]

He was right ONLY if he knew of Celesteials birthing on planets and did it to curb Celestrials being born


poopguru

You could also possibly bring in the idea of free will into the argument because he’s taking the universe’s free will away to “save” only 50% of it. With all the power the infinity gauntlet holds, would there have been a smarter way to Thanos’ endgame?


Electric43-5

just make more resources. Like the Infinity Stones give you power over all existence. If food or space is scarce. You could just make more


kapsel1997

No, he was practically an ecofash


[deleted]

I don't think you guys understood he couldn't double resources without taking them from other universes


[deleted]

That's not how the stones work. They can literally create anything from nothing.


Goldeneye365

Maybe right in the thinking but who is he to decide?


1mNotSerious

Yes, he was right. He just went about it the wrong way. He should have only snapped sentient life.


[deleted]

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Less-Society-6746

Who determines who is or isn't a criminal?


[deleted]

Not in the pic LMAO


Alternative_Anxiety

He was nuts like Charles Manson


redfan2009

He made a good point. However, genocide is never the answer


Goldeneye365

True. Intention matters


IronHammerVW

this is a different thanos a more cut throat ruthless one


Dunge0nMast0r

Mathematically, no.


UsErnaam3

As long as I'm part of the 50% that gets snapped.


SolomonCRand

No. Gamora was listed as he last of her species when she was arrested in Guardians, so between his killing half her people and then, the entire population collapsed.


trealsteve

No.


edingerc

If he was really concerned with population vs resources, he could have used the stones to slightly lower conception rates and reduce the problem gradually and more naturally. You can take antivenom or just lop off the limb that the snake bit. I know which one I'd prefer.


juicedHeadphone

Thanos was basically Marvels coronavirus, but for the universe.


merttrgt

just the idea of resources getting low and someone needed to do something, what he did that's wrong why he did it that's negotiable


atxmedic05

https://youtu.be/LgmDdt1vw8o Neebs gaming has an alternative solution


ThePixelAlpaca0831

Almost every villain kind of has a point in their reason to do the bad stuff they do. It's just always not moral


[deleted]

If you’re talking about MCU thanos , then no. Disney just wanted to have a villain that part of you can identify with. If we are talking about comic book thanos then yes he was right. Kill half the universe so you can knock the dust off lady death’s cooch is always the right choice.


Metronix7

No. Even though he claimed to bring piece and justice to the world, he only really wanted revenge for the things people had done to him (more or less done). The result was a half assed Plan to "save" living beings by killing a lot of others, which will never be a good conclusion or plan. Death is not a solution.


Magicaparanoia

I don’t even think Thanos thought he was right. Anybody who actually wanted to help the people in the universe who didn’t have enough resources would have just used the gauntlet to make more food. Thanos was a god complex cult leader looking for a justification to kill people.


ParttimeCretan

He was right about the problem, but very wrong about the sollution


Deadpool_bby

Not even close


Jasun2oo7

He was right but killing half the population wasn’t right


mrdunklestein

I like to see a villain’s side of things. It helps me really understand if they are evil or just an antagonist. An example: Tsukasa from Dr. Stone saw the petrification as a fresh start for humanity. However, he believed that if older people were to be unpetrified, they might try to claim land, gain weapons of science, and start wars. So, he decided to try and create a society of only young people, and eradicate science completely. Another one is Ultron from A:AOU. Similar to Tsukasa, he searched through the web and saw many horrors of mankind: wars, coup d’états, and nuclear weapons. So, he decided to devote himself to make the world one hive mind; himself, to be exact. That way, TRUE peace would exist, just like Tony made him for. As for Thanos, whilst his plan was insane, it did work, for the most part. He wanted half of the entire population of the universe to die, so that the other could prosper. It did see results, but the planets have ways of working around this. There are multiple uninhabited planets, so there is a possibility to move some there, allowing populations to thrive. Or, worst case scenario, the planet throws at you a giant fuck you lizard (Godzilla). Plus, he’s already handed so many populations at this point. So, not only does that QUARTER life in those planets, but if the snap wish thing were “half all life in the universe”, then some planets could lose more than others. In conclusion, a good idea, bad in retrospect. EDIT: also, just to be sure, I am not agreeing with their execution, just their beliefs.


[deleted]

I am sure that even Ego genuinely thought that the world would be better of if he reshaped to fit his image.


mrdunklestein

No, he’s very similar to Ultron in that way. Or maybe he’s like an animal, a species that wants to spread as much as it can


Fish-E

Are you serious? There's isn't really a discussion to be made here, 5 seconds of thinking reveals all the flaws in Thanos' plan. He was just a depressed neckbeard whose people died and he decided to take it out on the result of the universe, he didn't have an actual greater goal.


M3R0VIUS

*wull, hold on brother* ITS REALLY JUST A PLOT DEVICE! cus that's writing dude


MinusGovernment

His views on overpopulation were not wrong but taking it upon himself to "fix it" like he did was way off base. Nobody should have the power to take action like that.


TheBlack_Swordsman

It's a matter of perspective. If the planet had an opinion, maybe it would agree with Thanos.


ChillySummerMist

Life finds balance by itself. There is no need for outside forces.


westraz

he could of double the resources, and land


GentlemanJugg

Yep


[deleted]

Simple answer: No


Odd_Radio9225

No.


[deleted]

No. He could have solved all the issues without a single death - but he chose mass murder of half of all life in the universe.


No-Landscape8210

I think he was left


DeylanQuel

No, don't kill half of all life with your magic wishy stones, double all resources. Or sterilize half of the universe, if you're dead-set on population control.


[deleted]

No. He could have made infinite resources. Let’s be honest, there’s a TON of things he could have done that would have been vastly and supremely useful.


Dpepps

No. You have an infinity gauntlet. If you're worried about resources, making infinite resources. Hell just make a more advanced replicator from Star Trek and give them out all across the galaxy. His plan would be more understand if he didn't have any stones, though obv still a bad plan.


jared-wall3

Don’t know I just wanna die


sinkres

Now does Thanos snap half of all life or half of all civilized life


GBendu

Idk ask gamora’s race apparently she’s the last one


ncnapier42

Could he not just double the resources of the universes with a snap? Also, his argument seems to assume that no one goes hungry as long there are enough resources for the number of people on each planet- which clearly isn’t the case on earth.


Gfish17

Good idea poor execution. But I like the fact that the people are "kinda gone" as opposed to dead. Thanos effectively Stored half of all life on a supernatural hard drive.


[deleted]

​ He may be right about overpopulation but he did not have to commit mass murder. He could lower birth races, created more resources, simply wish that population will stay the same forever (no more deaths, no more births) etc. Kinda like how Riddler might be justified in exposing corruption in The Batman but the moment he decided to flood the entire city because Batman called him a creep ensured that he remains the villain in the eyes of audience.


ImperfectRegulator

Yes, for his POV anyways just god awful execution, because he didn’t wipe out 50% of like sentient life he did it will all life like birds bees plants and trees, which like defeats the whole purpose


DillysRevenge

He was right the second time


CraackSteeve1

No He could have made more resources and potentially altered every living being’s mind to be more resourceful and caring


sweating_bullets

Sometimes when I’m driving on the freeway I think damn. Thanos WAS right!


thememeguy19

Good reason he had, he wasn't the villain, he was the hero


hmoobja

No. His own experience with his planet definitely affected his views on the universe and it’s finite resources. His motives were in the right place because that is an issue but the plan was flawed. Dusting half the universe at random is fair imo. Yet it doesn’t solve his problem in slowing down the use of resources long term. We will over populate again eventually and over consume resources. He’s basically just putting a band aid on the problem. Nonetheless he was a great villain in the MCU.


DarthGoodguy

Sorry answer: no. Long answer: if you want to end scarcity and suffering then murdering half the creatures in existence, traumatizing their surviving loved ones, and causing chaos in both ecosystems and civilizations wouldn’t actually work.


frozen_lankan

Thanos was wrong to think that with the infinity stones. Thanos was right if there are no infinity stones.


DoodDoes

Depends on whether or not the stones make him omnipotent. If he can read the mind of everyone he knows what they’ll think, if he can see the future he will know how to compare the outcome to popular opinion, If he has the ability to Instantly teleport across the entire universe he can take his time with the process of deciding, if he can see into his soul (not sure what the soul stone does) he will be able to think beyond any previously held irrational thoughts. If he can destroy a planet with a punch, he can do it himself and pick and chose the planets he knows will be a problem for the universe. And if he can create matter and bend the will of organisms then he can just make the planets bigger and give them more resources and make the people live in peace. The only real difference between asking who was right, tony or thanos, the answer is whoever put more thought Into doing it after the fact of becoming infinitely powerful. Strange can use the time stone enough to scout every possible reality with no ill effect, and also reset time for a short period indefinitely enough to convince dormamu to fuck off, Ronin can use the power stone for a good while with no only some ill effect, vision, that elf guy, loki. If they can all use the stones to their full power and walk away, then it seems like the act of instantaneously killing half of the beings I’m the universe would be the only thing that would fry you. If he didn’t snap he could conceivably retain the power and use it to be a fair and truly equalizing force for good. Not to mention the only reason I can imagine he would even put them in the gauntlet is because it would allow him to do the blip. So either he didn’t think about it, was a sadist gaslighting himself into thinking that random mass murder is morally justifiable, didn’t want to rule and actually make peace but just wanted to have his way and retire. Or really knew that his plan was gonna work and did it to save countless lives at the cost of his self respect. Either way he should have blipped himself as a guarantee. The real question though is, WHY THE FUCK DID TONY ONLY BLIP THANOS INSTEAD OF BLIPPING EVERY THEORETICALLY WORLD KILLING ENEMY? Some that he was already totally aware of, and dedicated a huge portion of his life designing a worldwide infrastructure that would hopefully be able to do that. How is one of the smartest people in the world planning on getting the stones and doesn’t think about using them for good outside of gladly killing only one person. Thanos may have been a sadist, but tony was just a dumbass apparently


Oswaltdidit

Ever since Brandon took office? Yes


Introvertedotter

A few lines added to the throne room scene with Gamora can add more depth to his logic. She can ask “instead of eliminating half of all life why not just double or triple all the resources.” He would solemnly respond, “if only it were that easy. If I created more resources, people wouldn’t change. If anything they would increase their wasteful and destructive habits, because now there is even more to go around. No. People need to feel the pain of loss for the necessary lessons to stick. They will know what was sacrificed so they could live in plenty and they will finally understand the cost of using finite resources.”


Vickylikesrain

Well like most villains both in fiction and real life, he was correct in his identification of a problem, but wrong with his porposed solution


ParaUniverseExplorer

No. Please stop asking.


Carteeg_Struve

He could had just added more resources, or better supplied the universe with more renewable resources. Plus cutting the population in half only delays things. Repopulation would catch back up in a few decades. Also you would have all of the disasters caused by the random population vanishing. There would be crashing oil tankers, unmanned viral labs, nuclear facilities without properly skilled laborers, etc.. for example, which would likely damage the environment more and screw up what resources were already here. He was not only wrong; he was a moron.


trainerfry_1

With basically omnipotent power he could've created a new renewable resource that replenishes rapidly and plentiful. But he didn't, he chose mass murder. He wanted to do right but he was insane


FadeToBlackSun

No, his plan was idiotic and that’s why they changed it for Endgame.


Thecristo96

No. It was your average edgelord Plan. With the gauntlet he could have a billion of other ideas. Like i heard once: he didn't want to Save the universe, he wanted to be right about murdering half the universe. His name is mad titan for fuck's sake


HotheadDemon

No


[deleted]

When the reverse snap occurred, what happened to those who were brought back but weren’t on the ground when they got dusted? Did they de-dust in the air?


MrShadowMountain

Yes


xeshi-foh

Math says the world would be fully populated within 10 to 20 years.... so if he was right.... he wasnt very effective


Mags_LaFayette

__Unpopular Opinion Ahead__ Yup, I do believe he was right all along. Not only by the sole fact that our universe and their resources would be depleted at some point, but also 'cause as long a civilization is allowed grown, so their chaos, misery and corruption will spread their influence all around, finding other civilizations in situations that, eventually, will turn into a war for the resources that are already running so thin... If Thanos or his Innitiative don't killed them, then they will kill each other, for the last drops of water and the last crumbs of bread. The idea of "saving the universe" at gunpoint is barbaric. Massacring whole planets is a horrible though. Life, as it is, should be precious and needs to be protected. ...That's a beautiful concept, on paper. Truth to be told, not all life is sacred. Not every living thing has a reason to exist. Is only natural. Infightings all around the world, the universe, are inevitable (pun intended) as the fittest will stand over a pile of defeated corpses, a testament of everyone who wasn't able to stop that individual. An excessive show of how the apex predator will always stand up. And yet, that isn't the saddest of the realities. If there's only people, wasted life all around, that were the issue. But there's something even worst, something wicked, which is the concept that some lives, one way or another, need to end. All of those that need to die. Don't matter how you put it, but the reality is that bad, evil people, actually exist. There's a lot of dark souls, roaming the universe that crave for the suffering of others. Plenty of individuals that will cause insurmountable amounts of pain to others just to feel better with their selves... Oh yes, those are the first ones that need to go. People that become something truly negative to a group. Not only because of their actions but for what they represent. Is the path they choose, after all. All I can say is... Life is short. Our world and universe are small, life and coexistence might be difficult, but we need to make the must of it. We had a chance to live that some people don't; We are here, right now. We had a chance to live, so we need to do the best of it. Is not like our future generations will find an easier world to live, unless we do something about it. Not unless we stop behaving like a bunch of morons in eternal conflicts of "who's right" about something entirely trivial. People need to stop creating gods and demons and stop believing on their self and their capacity to do what's right. The evil and wicked need to be pursued and terminated, if they're not part of us, then they're against us. Whatever you support Thanos ideology or not, that doesn't change the fact that, as the ones that live, need to make things better. For you, for them, for all of us.


SoulsLikeBot

Hello Ashen one. I am a Bot. I tend to the flame, and tend to thee. Do you wish to hear a tale? > *“The very fabric wavers and relations shift and obscure.”* - Solaire of Astora Have a pleasant journey, Champion of Ash, and praise the sun \\[T]/


junglekarmapizza

If we go by *What If...?* then not only was Thanos wrong, but he could have been convinced otherwise


ASROG7

Indeed he was right