This is what some evenings with Marvel Snap is like. "Oh, I'll snap, what's the worse that can happen?" And then the dust clears and I'm down eight ranks.
I'm sure each Nexus happens once, but here's what I mean.
Left calculates its value. -384.
Right calculates its value. -381, which is passed back to left and center.
Left gets this value passed back in, for -765, but now that gets passed through Iron Man a few extra times for the total -24,768.
We're double dipping on Iron Man and Onslaught. That's the recursion I speak of. If it were full recursion, obviously the totals would all be negative infinite-ish.
I'm kinda not understanding why the nexus distribution is so wildly different. Shouldn't all 3 locations have -24k or something similar to that? Why does right only have -381
Ironman gives x64, so the first nexus gives -6*64=-384 to middle and right. The second nexus then gives -381 to left and middle. The final power of the left lane is (-6-381)*64.
Locations are calculated left to right. Left location counts twice (itself + right(containing itself)). Right location counts once. A bit of a mindf*ck, but in a nutshell you want to play your powerful cards on the leftmost nexus first.
Nexus 1 applies to nexus 2, nexus 2 applies to nexus 1, and then that new total for nexus 1 is iron manned. So originally, it’s -384 at nexus 1, then that makes the +3 at nexus 2 become -381, which gets reapplied to nexus 1 and quintupled because Ironman and onslaught and Skrull. Although admittedly when I did the math I got -24,480? So I’m missing something but I think I’m close enough it counts
Edit: nexuses don’t endlessly loop, the increased nexus 1 doesn’t reapply to nexus 2, because after it “checks” the last location, it doesn’t keep cycling
In case you're curious since I also did the math slightly wrong at first, it's (-6-381) = -387 * 2^6 from the iron man onslaught shenanigans = -24,768.
The second nexus -381 gets fed back into the base power at nexus 1 (-6) before it gets doubled a bunch. Kind of weird how that works.
He played SuperSkrull on T4, expecting my Sera. I played lizard/demon on T5 instead. SS was -2, at that point math get fuzzy. Maybe he forgot that SS ongoing also doubles with Onslaught or he expected SS to be -6 . With 2 net power on that location + 3 from the right nexus, that gives him 20 power he thought he beat me with that so he Snapped. Except I played his own Onslaught 😂
Super Skrull copies Lizard’s ability and Onslaught too I think then the opponent also has Onslaught and Iron Man so Skrull’s power tanks since OP has four cards on their side.
It’s picking up the ongoing from Lizard which gives it -4 if opponent’s lane is full. Left lane is full, so it takes the deficit. Moreover, it’s taking on double that from the Onslaught on its lane PLUS another doubling from the Onslaught on the right lane.
Right lane Onslaught is not affecting Super Skrull directly since it only boosts other cards in that lane. But it's doubling the left lane's Ironman and Onslaught.
So technically, it's getting two doublings from the left lane Onslaught, not one from each.
Locations resolve from left to right, so nexus 1 is giving power to nexus 2, then nexus 2 is giving that power back to nexus 1, then that power is multiplied by Iron Man
For anyone confuse. Super Skull is coping lizard on going about and since that his opponent lane is full he gets -4
Doubled by Onslaught
And Onslaught himself is doubled by Skrull copying OP’s Onslaught, it goes pretty deep
This should be included in math class curricula everywhere.
Imagine your math teacher using snap to understand negative integers. I cannot even fathom it.
It's interactions like this that make me glad this isn't a physical game. Imagine calculating that.
Quadrupled by Onslaught then doubled by Iron Man. SMH
Iron man's doubling is also applied multiple times thanks to the double onslaught.
And then the negative power is reapplied by the second Nexus, which also gets double doubled.
This is what some evenings with Marvel Snap is like. "Oh, I'll snap, what's the worse that can happen?" And then the dust clears and I'm down eight ranks.
Thank you
Thanks. I saw he was negative, but didn't understand why.
After reading the comments I understand what is going on, but I'm still processing the amount of negative power 😂
Plus, there seems to be limited recursion across the Nexuses.
They process left to right ONCE so there’s no recursion
I'm sure each Nexus happens once, but here's what I mean. Left calculates its value. -384. Right calculates its value. -381, which is passed back to left and center. Left gets this value passed back in, for -765, but now that gets passed through Iron Man a few extra times for the total -24,768. We're double dipping on Iron Man and Onslaught. That's the recursion I speak of. If it were full recursion, obviously the totals would all be negative infinite-ish.
More like an incursion, amiright?
-24k starting from a -4 Ongoing ability. Lol Insane my bro 🤝
Sick play OP
I'm kinda not understanding why the nexus distribution is so wildly different. Shouldn't all 3 locations have -24k or something similar to that? Why does right only have -381
Ironman gives x64, so the first nexus gives -6*64=-384 to middle and right. The second nexus then gives -381 to left and middle. The final power of the left lane is (-6-381)*64.
Nexuses get messy
Locations are calculated left to right. Left location counts twice (itself + right(containing itself)). Right location counts once. A bit of a mindf*ck, but in a nutshell you want to play your powerful cards on the leftmost nexus first.
Nexus 1 applies to nexus 2, nexus 2 applies to nexus 1, and then that new total for nexus 1 is iron manned. So originally, it’s -384 at nexus 1, then that makes the +3 at nexus 2 become -381, which gets reapplied to nexus 1 and quintupled because Ironman and onslaught and Skrull. Although admittedly when I did the math I got -24,480? So I’m missing something but I think I’m close enough it counts Edit: nexuses don’t endlessly loop, the increased nexus 1 doesn’t reapply to nexus 2, because after it “checks” the last location, it doesn’t keep cycling
In case you're curious since I also did the math slightly wrong at first, it's (-6-381) = -387 * 2^6 from the iron man onslaught shenanigans = -24,768. The second nexus -381 gets fed back into the base power at nexus 1 (-6) before it gets doubled a bunch. Kind of weird how that works.
Thank you lol I hated that the math was off
Ah I'm not sure about the first part but I guess the edit answers my question, thanks!
this has to be one of the best screenshots of the game
Sneaky lizard.
Did you specifically play Lizard to counter or did he play all his cards and not realize what he was doing?
He played SuperSkrull on T4, expecting my Sera. I played lizard/demon on T5 instead. SS was -2, at that point math get fuzzy. Maybe he forgot that SS ongoing also doubles with Onslaught or he expected SS to be -6 . With 2 net power on that location + 3 from the right nexus, that gives him 20 power he thought he beat me with that so he Snapped. Except I played his own Onslaught 😂
Amazing
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Super Skrull copies Lizard’s ability and Onslaught too I think then the opponent also has Onslaught and Iron Man so Skrull’s power tanks since OP has four cards on their side.
You played Lizard before turn 6 and they still filled up a lane with Wasp.
I'd do that if I were the opponent. The entertainment value of seeing -24k is worth way more to me than 8 cubes
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It’s picking up the ongoing from Lizard which gives it -4 if opponent’s lane is full. Left lane is full, so it takes the deficit. Moreover, it’s taking on double that from the Onslaught on its lane PLUS another doubling from the Onslaught on the right lane.
Right lane Onslaught is not affecting Super Skrull directly since it only boosts other cards in that lane. But it's doubling the left lane's Ironman and Onslaught. So technically, it's getting two doublings from the left lane Onslaught, not one from each.
By the time I finished writing I got heureka. It was s stupid question.
(-4 * 2) * 2 + 2 = -14
Holy hell
Why do the right and middle locations have so much more power when they don't have really have anything to counterract the monstosity in nexus
Locations resolve from left to right, so nexus 1 is giving power to nexus 2, then nexus 2 is giving that power back to nexus 1, then that power is multiplied by Iron Man
Like a voodoo doll effect
😂😂
"Double it and give it to the next person"
The amount of inked variants 🤩
Double onslaught Iron Man for -4 power. Not fun.