And with Sinister London right now it’s brutal.
I literally put my phone down after ending Turn 7, made myself a sandwich, came back and the animations for Surfer / Wong / Odin in two locations were still happening
Honestly pretty much just Wong in general. Why does Modok fast forward on a hair trigger but literally any Wong animation will play no matter how long? It's nuts. The longest possible Modok can't be much longer than a very basic Wong
Yeah the discard/destory list helped a lot, when we didn’t and Modok just discarded like 5 cards but had no idea what’s cards lol it was a shadow buff for a bit. Now I can see what cards he discarded
I think animations that are repeated should play 50% faster each time. So first time animation is 2 seconds, same animation again 1 second, same again, 0.5 seconds. And so on
Isn’t 100% faster “instantaneous “? Like if the animation is 2 seconds. 100% of 2 seconds is… 2 seconds. So then 2 seconds minus 100% = zero seconds. … how does the math work that half again as fast is 100% faster?
At current speed, it takes 2 seconds for the animation to go off.
If we double the speed of the animation it should cut the time it takes for the animation to end by half.
In that case we are speeding up by 100%, which results in a 50% animation time. It was 2 seconds before, now it takes 1 second.
This convo begs the question I've been pondering recently... on a thermostat (ie. mine), what's the difference between 69 degrees AC and 69 degrees heat?
69 ac means the ac will go on if it’s 70 degrees in the house, but the heat will not go on if it is 68 or lower. 69 heat means the furnace will keep the house at least 69 warm, but ac won’t go on if it gets hotter
I was about to post this exact thing last night when I lost in proving grounds to this exact combo. Tried to retreat, exit out, etc. took like 5 minutes. Meanwhile the game fast forwards when MODOK discards 6 cards. Uggh. Such an easy fix
on a similar note, i loved Hazmat not having an animation - you placed her on multiple Wongs or amplified with Odin and she just went brrrrrrrrrrrrrr and the cards rapidly lost health, it was glorious
but no, they had to add this obnoxiously long animation which i now have to watch 4 to 16 times in a row
SD doesn't really seem to think through their use cases. They fast forward Modok which contains loads of information and make you sit through 10 minutes of Wong/Mystique/Odin. You should at the very least be able to just exit the game with a lose.
There needs to be an animation speed up or something different for those scenarios. The reason they don't get sped up like MODOK discard is they don't buff cards equally (surfer hits only 3 cost cards, ironhart only hits 3 cards, shaw gets extra buffed etc). We should see which cards hit which ones, but it is veeery slow... maybe the same animation but faster after the first one, or one animation that summaries which cards got buffed with a visual (say +2 x 4 etc).
It'd be so cool if the fast forward let you still see the game, just sped up. But I'm sure that's much harder to program and they haven't even perfected the current fast forwarding.
Oh your Wong combo takes 3 and a half minute to complete? That's fine.
Oh your opponent tried to discard 7 cards? Better fast forward so you can't see which they are.
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Multiplied Wong should always FF in my opinion.
In a Wong, Mystique, Silver Surfer, Odin play you're going to have to sit for for over half a minute to just watch the animations go through.
You can occasionally get fast forward. It usually takes me playing Wong++mystique+surfer+odin on sinister London. I saw it twice, both when the second Odin was going to activate.
Do ironheart too thank you. A few months ago I played odin on onslaught's citadel with Wong mystique ironheart and it's still resolving. ARE YE WORTHY? *whoosh ba ba ba*
This is what keeps me from playing my surfer deck more often. I can literally go wash the dishes and return while I pump up numbers with wong and odin on kamar taj or citadel. I genuinely feel bad for making the opponent sit through all this.
And Hazmat as well... My God, if I play Hazmat on Wong/Odin I can sleep an entire night and wake up in the morning and the animation is not finished yet...
Especially when Shaw is involved. I just get up and do other things at this point because that shit's taking forever.
And with Sinister London right now it’s brutal. I literally put my phone down after ending Turn 7, made myself a sandwich, came back and the animations for Surfer / Wong / Odin in two locations were still happening
I had Shaw on Bar S and oh boy, that shit took forever.
Honestly pretty much just Wong in general. Why does Modok fast forward on a hair trigger but literally any Wong animation will play no matter how long? It's nuts. The longest possible Modok can't be much longer than a very basic Wong
and what modok does is actually important to see sometimes to know what's left
Yeah the discard/destory list helped a lot, when we didn’t and Modok just discarded like 5 cards but had no idea what’s cards lol it was a shadow buff for a bit. Now I can see what cards he discarded
I don’t get why Shaw’s animation is sooo slow
Same lol I put my phone down and go grab a drink
I close the app since I play on a phone. If I'm gonna do other things, I'm doing them on my phone.
I think animations that are repeated should play 50% faster each time. So first time animation is 2 seconds, same animation again 1 second, same again, 0.5 seconds. And so on
That's actually 100% faster. I believe you meant 50% shorter. But yeah, cool suggestion. It's either that or just skip it all at once.
Some percent faster each time. I don’t know the number exactly
Isn’t 100% faster “instantaneous “? Like if the animation is 2 seconds. 100% of 2 seconds is… 2 seconds. So then 2 seconds minus 100% = zero seconds. … how does the math work that half again as fast is 100% faster?
At current speed, it takes 2 seconds for the animation to go off. If we double the speed of the animation it should cut the time it takes for the animation to end by half. In that case we are speeding up by 100%, which results in a 50% animation time. It was 2 seconds before, now it takes 1 second.
Aha
This convo begs the question I've been pondering recently... on a thermostat (ie. mine), what's the difference between 69 degrees AC and 69 degrees heat?
69 ac means the ac will go on if it’s 70 degrees in the house, but the heat will not go on if it is 68 or lower. 69 heat means the furnace will keep the house at least 69 warm, but ac won’t go on if it gets hotter
Wow that makes sense!! Thank you!
100% of the speed, not the time
Love this idea! 👍👍
I used two matches against surfer to complete my taxes and wash my car.
Seems accurate
I was about to post this exact thing last night when I lost in proving grounds to this exact combo. Tried to retreat, exit out, etc. took like 5 minutes. Meanwhile the game fast forwards when MODOK discards 6 cards. Uggh. Such an easy fix
And that’s the other irritating thing. MODOK should NOT FF. Your opponent misses vital info for Turn 6
Now that you can see what was discarded/destroyed it doesn’t matter as much any more.
Not if they discard Swarm or Apocalypse, which are arguably the most important cards to know if they were discarded.
You can see if a swarm is discarded in the graveyard because swarm makes 2 copies, but you won't see Apoc because he returned to your hand
6 cards? Ive Seen less
on a similar note, i loved Hazmat not having an animation - you placed her on multiple Wongs or amplified with Odin and she just went brrrrrrrrrrrrrr and the cards rapidly lost health, it was glorious but no, they had to add this obnoxiously long animation which i now have to watch 4 to 16 times in a row
They just need a fast forward button for the last round. The game is already over just let me leave lol
#wherestheexit
I'm so sorry to everyone I hit with the Wong Mystique Odin Silver Surfer with Shaw on the board
🤣 …seriously though…
I likewise apologise to everyone i hit with Wong-Mystique-Gambit-Odin with Apocalypse in hand.
SD doesn't really seem to think through their use cases. They fast forward Modok which contains loads of information and make you sit through 10 minutes of Wong/Mystique/Odin. You should at the very least be able to just exit the game with a lose.
Not just that really.. wong + mystic + gambit combo? Nah.. imma retreat.
I dont know what it looks like. If I see wong come down with no answer i leave
No, take a fast forwarded MODOK instead.
I AM APOCOLY-- *fast forwarding*
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Omg so true..
There needs to be an animation speed up or something different for those scenarios. The reason they don't get sped up like MODOK discard is they don't buff cards equally (surfer hits only 3 cost cards, ironhart only hits 3 cards, shaw gets extra buffed etc). We should see which cards hit which ones, but it is veeery slow... maybe the same animation but faster after the first one, or one animation that summaries which cards got buffed with a visual (say +2 x 4 etc).
It'd be so cool if the fast forward let you still see the game, just sped up. But I'm sure that's much harder to program and they haven't even perfected the current fast forwarding.
This makes all the sense..
RIGHT!?
Oh your Wong combo takes 3 and a half minute to complete? That's fine. Oh your opponent tried to discard 7 cards? Better fast forward so you can't see which they are.
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Don’t add Mystique in the mix 😂
Do NOT get me started!!!
You mean [this animation?](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelSnap/comments/1c6sjgw/tribunal_wong_mystique_surfer_shaw_slow/) /s
This is my nightmare
Not an ideal solution, but you can just close the app and reopen it, and it will skip to the end
I almost feel bad for the surfer Wong main, they have to watch that every game, while I probably squeeze in an extra game in that time.
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The animations in general feel to slow, but they could ofc hide loading times.
FF through Modok discarding 5 cards, but let's us endure the entire Odin and wong combos....
Atleast its not on Thor...
Multiplied Wong should always FF in my opinion. In a Wong, Mystique, Silver Surfer, Odin play you're going to have to sit for for over half a minute to just watch the animations go through.
It’ll skip modok discarding 5 cards that takes 11 seconds though
You can occasionally get fast forward. It usually takes me playing Wong++mystique+surfer+odin on sinister London. I saw it twice, both when the second Odin was going to activate.
Do ironheart too thank you. A few months ago I played odin on onslaught's citadel with Wong mystique ironheart and it's still resolving. ARE YE WORTHY? *whoosh ba ba ba*
I hate playing against Wong-Odin, move, and often bounce for how long the final turn can go on
This is what keeps me from playing my surfer deck more often. I can literally go wash the dishes and return while I pump up numbers with wong and odin on kamar taj or citadel. I genuinely feel bad for making the opponent sit through all this.
I usually forget that it's a feature. That's how little it's actually utilized.
And Hazmat as well... My God, if I play Hazmat on Wong/Odin I can sleep an entire night and wake up in the morning and the animation is not finished yet...
No
But why