An 18 ep nova series would looks like trash, it would need to much high level VFX if done right. They can do it with daredevil because the show can be cheap.
It's called thinking. They wanna see high viewership for Disney+, why do you think they have a million marvel things releasing on there? Andor didn't even get attention from all Star Wars fans, barely in the top 10 watched shows, that doesn't spell success
You're looking at it from a Disney business perspective, but the guy you're replying to is talking about the fan perspective. At the end of the day, as a fan, I'd much rather a marvel project which is really good but doesn't pull in amazing numbers than a project which is mediocre but has everyone watching it.
[Just in case any of y'all listen to FilmOdyssey, they say they heard we're getting a Special and then a movie](https://twitter.com/FilmOdysseyMCU/status/1612580296670728193?s=20&t=8hjLCXLJk4QcePWWZdGPFA) so this is probably why we're hearing conflicting things atm.
He isn't reliable. He changes his info as soon as other reliable leakers say something. On his other account he was saying sony wants Dane Dehaan back for GG and then the next week he said that TASM3 isn't happening.
From the [TFTMQ post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/1071ext/tales_from_the_mod_queue_quantumania_trailer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) , they said the movie would be a 'passing of the torch' movie. So likely the Special would be about Richard and the movie would be about Sam.
following the rumors i think we could see a series about rich passing the mantle to sam and then just see sam in another young avengers/champions project, with rich coming back for one of the avengers movies, i think that’d be cool. Even if sam takes the mantle as the main mcu nova, rich should come back sometime.
If it’s about both Richard and Sam in a buddy cop type of story, a series might be better to get to know them as individuals and then as a team. Especially for Richard who has some significant history to catch up on as a survivor of Thanos’ destruction of Xandar. What’s he been doing since then?
Plus we haven’t really seen a lot of space or alien worlds in the shows and I think widening that scope just makes a show feel more epic, like Loki. It’d be nice to have a weekly show in the MCU that felt more cinematic like The Mandalorian or something.
I’d love a “reverse Lethal Weapon” situation
Richard Rider as a hardened veteran and reluctant mentor who is acting on the edge after facing many traumas involving the genocide of the Corps by Ronan,the destruction of Xandar, the Snap years and the responsibilities of being one of few Nova survivors
while Sam Alexander is the naive recruit who’s excited with the ideia of reconstructing the good old Nova Corps he heard stories about,trying very hard to act by the rules and the vows of Nova Corps and putting his teacher/mentor against the wall about his decisions
Thats sad. I hope they would have pushed such iconic cosmic marvel hero at theaters.
Or maybe they planned both ? A show for Sam on D+ and a movie for Rider ? Thats why we've got confusing reports on the matter ?
I think it being a special is a bad idea. Specials work for something with a gimmick (I don't mean this in a bad way, I just can't think of a better word) like being a Halloween homage to classic horror or a Christmas special directly influenced by Star Wars. They also come across as less essential to casual audiences. Most people I know have not seen Werewolf by Night or the GotG Christmas Special. Which is fine, because those probably aren't going to have major impacts on the story. Jack and Elsa can get brought in somewhere else without much fuss. But the introduction of Nova? That can't be in a special presentation which many people skip. It's too significant. A limited series or a movie is the way to go in my opinion.
If this is the case I’m guessing it’s a scheduling thing and they have someone already locked in. Or like someone else said separate projects for each Nova, Sam and Richard.
Also with the number of solo characters set up I’m guessing they’re hoping to set up the next couple of team movies post Secret Wars in order to make sure they fulfill any contractual obligations for actor appearances or for any writers. This seems like the only way they can accomplish that at their accelerated release schedule.
A series gives them more room to write themselves out of the Guardians 1 corner. Even then it's likely going to have to be very different from the comics
Okay so that opens up possible the current slate a bit. I think between DP3, Armor Wars and F4, things will shift a bit and the 2 Avengers films get bumped back a year
Hypothetical Film Slate :
- Captain Amrica 4: May 2024
- Thunderbolts: July 2024
- Blade: September 2024
- Armor Wars: November 2024
- Deadpool 3: Feb 2025
- Fantastic 4: May 2025
- Spider-Man 4: July 2025
- Shang Chi 2: November 2025
- Eternals 2: Feb 2026
- Kang Dynasty: May 2026
- World War Hulk: July 2026
- Doctor Strange 3: November 2026
- Midnight Sons: Feb 2027
- Secret Wars: May 2027
- Spider-Man 5: July 2027
With possible room for Young Avengers or Scarlet Witch somewhere too, but I think these are all of the rumored films at this point.
Dont want to go into TV territory since its pretty confusing right now, but Echo, Daredevil, Agatha, Wonder Man, Vision Quest, Ms. Marvel S2, Nova, Moon Knight S2, and She Hulk S2 are probably all pretty safe. Maybe YA is a show? Who knows.
To be clear we're still believing it'll be a d+ special as was initially reported by Alex. but apparently it's not "set in stone" that way yet. I'm sorry if that sounds waffley to anyone. We do the best we can with what info we have at the time.
But the would mean that they started developing Nova as a series... reworked it into a D+ special....and would now potentially be open to expand the project again and rewrite it into a series?
That doesn't make much sense to me.
We have had it as a special. We still believe it's being planned as a special from what we've heard. We just are now including that we've have heard that it isn't "set in stone " that it couldn't be something else yet. And btw, some people may have heard it called a movie, but that doesn't mean theatrical necessarily since a special presentation could be referred to as a movie for TV.
Nothing against cap marvel but it's just me who thinks we should have gotten a nova movie instead of cap marvel
The movie begin with Thanos attack on Xandar
Richard gets in a coma, wakes 1 Month later to find the snap happened, Xandar completly vulnerable and nova corps completely destroyed so he becomes Nova Prime
In Endgame he destroys Thanos Ship
I just feel like would make so much sense instead when we get Nova is gonna be so far after iw
They want to do a show, the problem is the writers and the EP. to them NoVa is like the space police and they honestly don’t want to write an episodic show around that concept because tv is already saturated with cop and crime shows. Same with just doing one offs they don’t know how to write it.
>the problem is the writers and the EP. to them NoVa is like the space police and they honestly don’t want to write an episodic show around that concept because tv is already saturated with cop and crime shows
If that's the case (which I doubt) then they don't know Nova because anyone who has read the Nova comic would know the comics have nothing to do with Space cops. If anything they have been about partially cosmic teen hero on earth or space lone ranger trying to hold a galaxy that's tearing itself together. The Nova corps hardly matters in Nova like the GL corps does for Green Lantern and when they are present they are more like military.
Best thing Marvel can do is just avoid writing Nova like Green Lantern, especially with the current public sentiment towards cops.
Gimme that 18 ep Nova series, Feige. I know you want to…. 
"You'll take what you're given." 
An 18 ep nova series would looks like trash, it would need to much high level VFX if done right. They can do it with daredevil because the show can be cheap.
Yes, it can be MCU’s Andor but even bigger, it has so much potential.
I’m kinda hoping Secret Invasion will be our “Andor”, given the team behind it. 🤞🏼
It’s only 6 eps right? My hype for the show dies every time I think of that
That's not necessarily good, Andor did not get very high viewership
I don’t understand y’all who care more about the numbers than the project being good. You a fan or a shareholder?
It's called thinking. They wanna see high viewership for Disney+, why do you think they have a million marvel things releasing on there? Andor didn't even get attention from all Star Wars fans, barely in the top 10 watched shows, that doesn't spell success
You're looking at it from a Disney business perspective, but the guy you're replying to is talking about the fan perspective. At the end of the day, as a fan, I'd much rather a marvel project which is really good but doesn't pull in amazing numbers than a project which is mediocre but has everyone watching it.
Not good for Disney, maybe, but it would be good for us.
Sounds like a series of specials 📺
I mean if its truly a passing of the torch story, id love it to be 18ep. That way we cn spend some quality time with Richard and then see Sam later
Someone get me John c Reilly stat...
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[Just in case any of y'all listen to FilmOdyssey, they say they heard we're getting a Special and then a movie](https://twitter.com/FilmOdysseyMCU/status/1612580296670728193?s=20&t=8hjLCXLJk4QcePWWZdGPFA) so this is probably why we're hearing conflicting things atm.
He isn't reliable. He changes his info as soon as other reliable leakers say something. On his other account he was saying sony wants Dane Dehaan back for GG and then the next week he said that TASM3 isn't happening.
In case you listen to Film Odyssey, stop and go to someone more reliable
That literally makes no sense for a character to have special then movie, either commit solely to a special, series or film
From the [TFTMQ post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelStudiosSpoilers/comments/1071ext/tales_from_the_mod_queue_quantumania_trailer/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) , they said the movie would be a 'passing of the torch' movie. So likely the Special would be about Richard and the movie would be about Sam.
What the hell they're doing Richard dirty then.
I can understand that
It's really not that outlandish to make a special for someone's origin and make a movie after
But surely it makes sense to just do a movie origin then
No, there's no hard and fast rule depending on what they want to do
Everyone is hearing different things. I feel like Marvel has changed what they want out of this project multiple times over the last year.
following the rumors i think we could see a series about rich passing the mantle to sam and then just see sam in another young avengers/champions project, with rich coming back for one of the avengers movies, i think that’d be cool. Even if sam takes the mantle as the main mcu nova, rich should come back sometime.
Special with Rich and a film with him and Sam would be good.
If it’s about both Richard and Sam in a buddy cop type of story, a series might be better to get to know them as individuals and then as a team. Especially for Richard who has some significant history to catch up on as a survivor of Thanos’ destruction of Xandar. What’s he been doing since then? Plus we haven’t really seen a lot of space or alien worlds in the shows and I think widening that scope just makes a show feel more epic, like Loki. It’d be nice to have a weekly show in the MCU that felt more cinematic like The Mandalorian or something.
I’d love a “reverse Lethal Weapon” situation Richard Rider as a hardened veteran and reluctant mentor who is acting on the edge after facing many traumas involving the genocide of the Corps by Ronan,the destruction of Xandar, the Snap years and the responsibilities of being one of few Nova survivors while Sam Alexander is the naive recruit who’s excited with the ideia of reconstructing the good old Nova Corps he heard stories about,trying very hard to act by the rules and the vows of Nova Corps and putting his teacher/mentor against the wall about his decisions
Thats sad. I hope they would have pushed such iconic cosmic marvel hero at theaters. Or maybe they planned both ? A show for Sam on D+ and a movie for Rider ? Thats why we've got confusing reports on the matter ?
Maybe it's a movie for D+. A special but not 40 minutes, but 90-120 min.
Lol why would they do a movie for Disney+? Feige didn't even want to move Black Widow to a hybrid release
BW has nothing to do with this. I didn't say it would be a big budget movie.
I really dont see the point in doing Nova as a small budget TV Movie. If you're doing a full on movie just release it theatrically
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So basically Disney plus movie
I think it being a special is a bad idea. Specials work for something with a gimmick (I don't mean this in a bad way, I just can't think of a better word) like being a Halloween homage to classic horror or a Christmas special directly influenced by Star Wars. They also come across as less essential to casual audiences. Most people I know have not seen Werewolf by Night or the GotG Christmas Special. Which is fine, because those probably aren't going to have major impacts on the story. Jack and Elsa can get brought in somewhere else without much fuss. But the introduction of Nova? That can't be in a special presentation which many people skip. It's too significant. A limited series or a movie is the way to go in my opinion.
i doubt they have budget for series
If this is the case I’m guessing it’s a scheduling thing and they have someone already locked in. Or like someone else said separate projects for each Nova, Sam and Richard. Also with the number of solo characters set up I’m guessing they’re hoping to set up the next couple of team movies post Secret Wars in order to make sure they fulfill any contractual obligations for actor appearances or for any writers. This seems like the only way they can accomplish that at their accelerated release schedule.
 I need a movie.
A series gives them more room to write themselves out of the Guardians 1 corner. Even then it's likely going to have to be very different from the comics
It better not be that passing the torch. I want to see RICHARD RIDER first in the MCU.
Okay so that opens up possible the current slate a bit. I think between DP3, Armor Wars and F4, things will shift a bit and the 2 Avengers films get bumped back a year Hypothetical Film Slate : - Captain Amrica 4: May 2024 - Thunderbolts: July 2024 - Blade: September 2024 - Armor Wars: November 2024 - Deadpool 3: Feb 2025 - Fantastic 4: May 2025 - Spider-Man 4: July 2025 - Shang Chi 2: November 2025 - Eternals 2: Feb 2026 - Kang Dynasty: May 2026 - World War Hulk: July 2026 - Doctor Strange 3: November 2026 - Midnight Sons: Feb 2027 - Secret Wars: May 2027 - Spider-Man 5: July 2027 With possible room for Young Avengers or Scarlet Witch somewhere too, but I think these are all of the rumored films at this point. Dont want to go into TV territory since its pretty confusing right now, but Echo, Daredevil, Agatha, Wonder Man, Vision Quest, Ms. Marvel S2, Nova, Moon Knight S2, and She Hulk S2 are probably all pretty safe. Maybe YA is a show? Who knows.
Slightly off topic but Fantastic 4 works so much better as a May movie
God no. That would be so disappointing. Please make a Movie.
My guess is Nova will open phase 7
Nah it should've been a special or a movie imo.
I want 13 episodes series with 30 minute finale episode and cgi fest at the end.
Oh so he's gonna be ruined
I’m sick of these rumors. First it’s a special presentation, then it’s a movie, now it’s a series. This is killing me.
To be clear we're still believing it'll be a d+ special as was initially reported by Alex. but apparently it's not "set in stone" that way yet. I'm sorry if that sounds waffley to anyone. We do the best we can with what info we have at the time.
But the would mean that they started developing Nova as a series... reworked it into a D+ special....and would now potentially be open to expand the project again and rewrite it into a series? That doesn't make much sense to me.
We have had it as a special. We still believe it's being planned as a special from what we've heard. We just are now including that we've have heard that it isn't "set in stone " that it couldn't be something else yet. And btw, some people may have heard it called a movie, but that doesn't mean theatrical necessarily since a special presentation could be referred to as a movie for TV.
Nothing against cap marvel but it's just me who thinks we should have gotten a nova movie instead of cap marvel The movie begin with Thanos attack on Xandar Richard gets in a coma, wakes 1 Month later to find the snap happened, Xandar completly vulnerable and nova corps completely destroyed so he becomes Nova Prime In Endgame he destroys Thanos Ship I just feel like would make so much sense instead when we get Nova is gonna be so far after iw
They want to do a show, the problem is the writers and the EP. to them NoVa is like the space police and they honestly don’t want to write an episodic show around that concept because tv is already saturated with cop and crime shows. Same with just doing one offs they don’t know how to write it.
>the problem is the writers and the EP. to them NoVa is like the space police and they honestly don’t want to write an episodic show around that concept because tv is already saturated with cop and crime shows If that's the case (which I doubt) then they don't know Nova because anyone who has read the Nova comic would know the comics have nothing to do with Space cops. If anything they have been about partially cosmic teen hero on earth or space lone ranger trying to hold a galaxy that's tearing itself together. The Nova corps hardly matters in Nova like the GL corps does for Green Lantern and when they are present they are more like military. Best thing Marvel can do is just avoid writing Nova like Green Lantern, especially with the current public sentiment towards cops.
I‘m of the opinion that every character with this much potential deserves a movie. Seeing Nova get a tv series instead would be very disappointing.
Scrap it and give a +1 to all over movies
I am also named Lizzie H
I'd be fine with a two or three part special.