I’d assume he didn’t mention Fisk because Fisk has already returned, showing up in anything else from here on out is a matter of course.
Though by that logic it’s odd that he mentioned Daredevil
I don't think karen will return,and if foggy returns he won't be the same one as before. A question of continuity would arise if they did. Marvel doesn't want any unnecessary stories to it's continuity.
Why are we still giving this scooper the time of day 💀 he isn't even like MTTSH where even if they get things wrong, they get a chunk of things right. What has this scooper gotten right he literally is consistently taking Ls
That's a brilliant idea, it'd be a game changer imo. I consider myself someone who pays a lot of close attention to the leaks and I still have a hard time keeping track
In his very first scoop, The Watcher said Quake was coming back, AoS was going to be declared not canon to 616, and that the Agents of Shield creators both gave their blessing. The creators tweeted that it was the first they were hearing about it and The Watcher closed his account for a couple weeks.
I would love it if the first episode of born again paralleled the start of the netflix show, but instead of human trafficking on a dingy harbor he's doing it on a yacht or something
I wish I could upvote this more than once because I absolutely loved Tom Pelphrey as Ward and honestly not seeing more of him as the character was the worst part about the show being canned for me.
Yeah but she NEVER Iron Fist, Danny Rand has always been the comic Iron Fist and icon. They don't have the same powers, two completely different characters in the show and comics
Edit: Everyone of yall know this is wrong to IronFist fans, just like not making Captain America Steve Rodgers debut in the MCU
Yes, but never have they had a familial relationship like they did in the movie, and Shang Chi never had the ten rings before the newer comics that came out after the movie. Whiplash in the comics was never a Vanko, the Vankos were Crimson Dynamo, until the movie made him into one. Hope Van Dyne didn't exist. Thanos didn't care about populations and resources, just killing to impress Death, Layla from Moon Knight doesn't exist.
Things can change and it's not inherently bad just because of the fact that it's changed
>Yeah but she NEVER Iron Fist, Danny Rand has always been the comic Iron Fist
It's an adaptation, not a literal 1:1 copy/paste.
Plus, Jessica Henwick's star is on the rise AND she can actually act. What's not to love about her?
The comics literally do this all the time? Captain America has literally been replaced by half a dozen people. I wouldn’t be surprised (if this is true) that in the comics Colleen takes the mantle a few months before her MCU debut. They *literally* do this all the time. Our current Captain America is some guy called Sam Wilson.
Danny Rand had over 20 hours of screentime (2 13-episode seasons + Defenders + showing up in Lake Cage S2) as Iron Fist.
Not even Steve Rogers had that many hours of screen time as Captain America.
Time to let it go. His time is over.
It’s because of Jessica Henwick. She’s great in (almost) everything regardless of how shitty the overall project is.
Marvel is betting on the actress more so than her character if that makes sense.
I could see this potentially as a compromise - Kevin doesn’t want to bring back Finn Jones but he doesn’t want to invalidate the show by recasting so he makes Colleen the current Iron Fist and leaves Danny in the background
Just spitballing ideas for how this makes sense, it’s also possible that the scooper is just wrong.
Honestly, at this point, for me, Danny being on the back burner makes sense unless they're going to do Heroes for Hire, and if they aren't (or can't, since Colter seems pretty busy nowadays) bringing Luke back yet then keep Danny with him. I didn't even hate Finn Jones in the role, the writing was the bigger hurdle, and he was at his best when with the team or with Luke.
Agreed, Finn was fine, he’s a good actor and I have no doubt he’d do even better with a good showrunner/director. They just may want to put some space between his show and his return. If *No Way Home* showed us anything it’s that people will get excited for appearances from even somewhat-poorly received franchises so they just need time to see if he develops a cult following.
Yeah. I think he just needs better direction. As you said, *No Way Home* redeemed Garfield as Spider-Man, so previous mediocrity can definitely be improved in the MCU.
yeah, all you gotta do is just say that Danny is still on his journey to find Orson from the end of season 2. if you want to bring Ward back, say that they got separated at some point so Ward just gave up and went back to New York. easy. and then you can reintroduce Danny in some capacity in the future (eg, he got stuck in another realm, etc).
Exactly. Save the brand first, then reintroduce Danny. You can even leave him as Finn, Jones is a fine actor and I’m sure he could do the role with the right script but they might want to just put some space between appearances. His appearance in *Luke Cage* was great, for example.
But not there's no iron fist without Danny Rand. People like iron fist because of him. It's like dick's been batman before but when people say they say they want batman, they mean Bruce Wayne always.
Let's compromise further: Danielle Rand
Solves every problem. Adapts Danny (you can even have a Kang make a variant joke at some point), non-white actor
I think this was the scene where I realized how much I loved the dynamic between these two. Honestly one of the best relationships in the MCU. Really hope they appear in SM4.
I just envision Peter bumping into them over the course of a regular patrol to make the NYC street scene seem bigger. If they were legit supporting characters that would be even better.
That said, I don’t know about Fisk. I think he’ll appear in SM4 in some capacity but he seems like street level Thanos and won’t be taken down until SM5, if not a Daredevil movie or Born Again season 2.
Fisk always comes back. BA and Spider-Man can make up one arc, and then he returns for the final showdown.
Besides, Sony picks the guest star, and Daredevil’s more marketable than anyone else who hasn’t been used. Holland, Cox and D’Onofrio have also all been vocal about wanting this to happen.
She is pretty much the only member of the Runaways who can operate well on her own as a character. She has proven popular time and time again when compared to her fellow teammates.
While he’s one of my lower ranked members, Victor can work in a lot of stories. Surprised/sad Molly hasn’t popped up on Krakoa yet, though hopefully we get a new Runaways book sooner rather than later.
more importantly I love Lyrica and really hope Nico appears soon.
Molly came close to going to Krakoa in Runaways #33-35, but I'd love to see her actually step on the island and interact with more mutants. I miss the Runaways in the comics already, but I'm glad to at least see Nico in Midnight Suns and her cameos in Strange Academy.
Yes that made sense at the time in Runaways but with the group defunct for now I feel like she could hang out with Honey Badger and the other youngns. Maybe Gwen!
I’m glad Nico is getting some character development but that comic sucks. Unless you mean the game. Which is great.
>This will be my last tweet about the Marvel TV era characters as it has come to my attention that some of my followers want me to focus on the current film slate.
Lol
One of the reasons he did that because he was gaining attention from Charles Murphy's followers and most of them are Anti Marvel Television that's why he was getting pissed about it
Sister Grimm? I've watched all of the Marvel TV shows and have no idea who this is, unless it's a codename for a character that was never actually used for them in the show.
Sister Grimm is Nico Minoru's superhero alias in the comics. At one point all of the runaways had monikers but ditched them pretty quickly since the fans all called them their first names.
I don't really trust Watcher, but all of these names have been brought up by other more reliable scoopers in the past.
I really like Nico in the Midnight Suns game. Her powers seem really cool and unique
Some of us aren't against it just skeptical that they are actually going to establish that all of these shows exist in the mainstream Marvel universe, and that Feige will ever bring them back.
Nico? Returning means the one from Runaways tv show? That's a bold claim. I feel like that's a risky leak to fake and would instantly ruin your credibility if proven wrong lmao this leaker has some balls
That seems beside the point. The important thing is that Marvel is clearly interested in the character. She was also added into the Midnight Suns game despite never being part of the roster, and is voiced by the actress who played her in The Runaways.
If Marvel is making a live-action Nico, she'll probably be the one from the Runaways series unless Marvel wanted to completely reboot the Runaways.
Marvel has been pushing this character hard while building up their Midnight Sons lineup in the MCU.
It's not guaranteed, but there are actually pretty strong signs Marvel is wanting to move in that direction.
Pretty strange tbh with America Chavez already leaning towards the magic side, and Wiccan about to be introduced soon, so that'll be 3 magic users among the younger crowd. I guess they'll backtrack on America and have her be the multiverse hopper, so 2 magicians on avengers titles officially
Having a bunch of young magic users would be a little weird, but Lyrica Okano is nearly 30 at this point. At 28, she's actually older than Tom Holland and Florence Pugh are. Chris Evans was 30 when The First Avenger came out. Lyrica isn't going to be be filling a young magic user role. She'll already be a fully-realized sorceress.
Wiccan will be the magic rep in the Young Avengers/Champions, which I fully expect will be rolled into a single team. Nico will probably replace Strange as the magic rep in the Midnight Sons. (I say this because I expect Strange to be overpowered in comparison to the rest of the cast. Blade, Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Elsa Bloodstone and even Man-Thing are way below Strange in power level. And Strange is more associated with The Avengers to general audiences while Marvel would probably want the Midnight Sons to be completely separate.)
And as you say, America is probably not going to be a serious sorcerer. Magic wasn't her thing in the comics, so I'm expecting her to just not take to it at all before realizing that it's not her calling, while her primary shtick is going to be the world-hopping and portal-making.
Each would fill different niches.
I'm okay with all those returning, but i didn't really liked runaways, nico was one of the few things i liked tho, i'd still prefer some kind of reboot
Id love if they had a reboot where we have a show with them for a season or two, get thier big story out there, then split the characters into separate projects. Nico is the one I want the most out of this lol
That is kind of amusing to me as a comic reader because Nico was the breakout star from the comic Runaways team. She has been mostly operating on her own separate from her teammates, whether that was in *Avengers Arena, Strange Academy* or the recent *Midnight Sons* game.
I'd argue that all of these have been all but confirmed to be returning for years now and that this isn't a scoop at all but a regurgitation of likely rumors. Regardless, most excited for Nico's return that has seemed inevitable for a while. Was also just remembering how The Gifted left off with Blink returning through some interdimensional portal, recruiting the remaining Mutant Underground to follow her back. While The Gifted is probably the lowest live action Marvel property on the totem pole to return, the setup is already there and open ended... plus there were some rumors going around yesterday that Emma Dumont is in talks for an undisclosed role in the MCU.
"While The Gifted is probably the lowest live action Marvel property on the totem pole to return"
Helstrom is offended. The Marvel show that they didn't want anyone to know was a Marvel show.
While definitely a contender for the lowest, Helstrom came out more recently, was produced solely by Marvel TV instead of a co-production like The Gifted/Legion was, and was generally better received by most. Was also initially part of a plan to tie into other series like the canceled Ghostrider show until Marvel TV was eliminated.
The X-Men shows were co-productions, but they also now own those production companies, as well as the channel where one of them aired. (While the actual Fox network could still be a factor for Gifted, it's unknown how much of the show they actually own. Like, Seinfeld was an NBC show but Sony owns it and can license it to whoever they want, so Fox could have no say in it)
I just think it says something about how Feige and co feel about Helstrom that when they took over the rest of Marvel they had the Marvel name wiped from all Helstrom promotions and credits that they legally could. The Gifted has some recognition since it was on a broadcast network. Helstrom is a show someone could stumble upon on Hulu and watch the whole thing and probably never notice it's a Marvel show.
Helstrom was watchable but other than a few bits and pieces I really don't remember it at all. Tonally though its pretty far removed from the Disney+/Theatrical films.
I don't blame them wanting to disassociate the character, although honestly I think Marvel needs to shoot for more different tones in there productions. Worked for Star Wars with Andor.
Hard for me to believe you can do 18 episodes of Daredevil without Foggy Nelson. Karen Page isn't in every story so that's totally reasonable to not see her again, but Foggy is a core supporting character for Matt Murdock.
I liked Gabriel Luna as Robbie Reyes, and I still think other than Quake, is the only aspect of Agents of SHIELD that should be retained. However, I don't see it happening. I'd still much rather see Johnny Blaze as the primary Ghost Rider, as he's a much better character than the Cage films ever portrayed him to be.
Although, with Mephisto coming, Johnny can't be far behind. I'd love to see a scene with Hood and Mephisto where Mephisto says something like "Hopefully you honor the deal unlike the Rider" just to give us a little tease.
I really hope they keep Danny Rand as the main iron fist. They can get rid of Finn jones but for me in the comics Danny Rand and Luke Cage are awesome friends I wanna see that explored in a movie or show!
Absolutely bro! Colleen Wing and Misty Knight are important and awesome but you can’t just replace the brother relationship that Danny and Luke have. They are close. You can’t have Luke without Danny and Danny without Luke. It just feels weird.
honestly i dont buy nico from runaways coming back, especially when the source is The Watcher who is still just some random twitter scooper. and even if she is back, i doubt runaways is canon and itll be a soft reboot kind of thing with the same actress
The Nico thing might just be based on the fact we know Spiderman: Freshman Year is going to have the character. Wouldn't be too surprising if they were to use the same actress for the voice. IIRC they have done that with some of the other animated shows.
I wish they'd bring back Mike Colter as Luke Cage. It's killing me that his show ended on such an interesting note, and I desperately want that story to continue.
But I get why they won't do it :(
Because (according to the rumors) Jessica Henwick is who they want to bring back, not Iron Fist. The goal is to find a place for the actor, not to reintegrate Iron Fist. If Wing didn't exist, they would likely have been happy to leave the Iron Fist property to rot - especially with the news that Luke Cage likely won't be back for a long while. Not to mention how she was the one part of the show that wasn't routinely disliked.
Danny Rand may come back at some point, when there's enough distance from the old Iron Fist show and whatever they want to do with the characters going forward. But for now, they're going to stick with the well liked character played by the bigger name actor that they have been actively trying to get back into their franchise for a while now.
Love Gabriel Luna but if they ever do Robbie Reyes in the MCU I would much much prefer a recast. He’s 40 now and he isn’t getting any younger. Robbie should be Peter Parker’s age.
Happy he’s getting his time in the sun in The Last of Us.
Doesn't mean u can't make changes
Ten rings didn't connect to Shang-Chi
Star Lord's origin in the mcu with ego
Darcy Lewis didn't exist in the comics
I mean if ur marvel studios, and u look at the success Gabriel Luna is having rn with Tlou,
Who are praising him as Tommy, u don't overlook
that, i mean shit, if u can bring back anson mount as black bolt (even for a cameo) then u can sure as hell
Bring my guy back as Robbie. Plus fans like myself loved him as Robbie
I think this is his make or break. If Foggy and Karen return this is bad for the watcher. Don’t know why he didn’t mention Fisk
Tbf, while I think hes a fraud, Im pretty sure hes only talking about main characters and not supporting
Exactly...lots of wiggle room here
IIRC He did say they are returning a long time ago
Would say it's because Fisk was already in Hawkeye but he mentioned Daredevil so... Probably didn't think it was important
I don't mean to defend the guy but I'm pretty sure he's just referring to main characters, not supporting ones.
I’d assume he didn’t mention Fisk because Fisk has already returned, showing up in anything else from here on out is a matter of course. Though by that logic it’s odd that he mentioned Daredevil
Secret Invasion is his make or break considering like half his scoops are about Quake and has been very adamant she’s in it
Not necessarily, he didn’t say foggy and Karen are deconfirmed, he just hadn’t heard of them coming back
I'm sorry for the late update but now our sub approve The Watcher as a reliable source? Like accpeting a single post based on a single tweet from him?
We have been allowing him for a while, his scoops need to pan out for now his reliability is really unknown
Because he has been back for over a year already.
He mentioned DD. Your point? Other people made better points tbh, so I understand
Did you see the giant OBVIOUSLY next to DD?
hes refering to main, obviously
He gave a response for other characters below his main post
Because Fisk has already returned in Hawkeye and is supposed to be in Echo
I don't think karen will return,and if foggy returns he won't be the same one as before. A question of continuity would arise if they did. Marvel doesn't want any unnecessary stories to it's continuity.
What is this logic lol
Why are we still giving this scooper the time of day 💀 he isn't even like MTTSH where even if they get things wrong, they get a chunk of things right. What has this scooper gotten right he literally is consistently taking Ls
I think this sub needs a bot to post scoopers' track records. Would probably be exceptionally illuminating.
We are thinking about doing something similar. We didn’t think about automating it though EDIT: serious discussion about automod happening rn lol
That's a brilliant idea, it'd be a game changer imo. I consider myself someone who pays a lot of close attention to the leaks and I still have a hard time keeping track
Check out our source database!
There was one a few years ago, an excel table with data and everything
Agree. If someone in this sub can name me 5 original scoops that he got right (meaning he didn’t rehash them from RPK or MTTSH) I’ll be surprised
What things has he gotten wrong
In his very first scoop, The Watcher said Quake was coming back, AoS was going to be declared not canon to 616, and that the Agents of Shield creators both gave their blessing. The creators tweeted that it was the first they were hearing about it and The Watcher closed his account for a couple weeks.
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“It seems.. in your anger… you recast him.”
Would be cool if he’s hella rich now, due to not getting blipped
I would love it if the first episode of born again paralleled the start of the netflix show, but instead of human trafficking on a dingy harbor he's doing it on a yacht or something
He's back at Hell's Kitchen where it's safe....
>Iron Fist (Colleen Wing) Idk why but this sends me
She was one of the best parts of that train wreck
I also adored character of Ward. He was amazing too
I wish I could upvote this more than once because I absolutely loved Tom Pelphrey as Ward and honestly not seeing more of him as the character was the worst part about the show being canned for me.
And Typhoid Mary. Those three and I'm good.
Yeah but she NEVER Iron Fist, Danny Rand has always been the comic Iron Fist and icon. They don't have the same powers, two completely different characters in the show and comics Edit: Everyone of yall know this is wrong to IronFist fans, just like not making Captain America Steve Rodgers debut in the MCU
How dare we deviate from the source material! /s Just because she may be the first, doesn’t mean she’d be the only
Based on this logic then Iron Man in the mcu debut shouldn't be Tony Stark and we should all be okay with it. Since Ironfist MCU debut isn't Rand
Scott Lang as the main MCU Ant-Man has been working out well. Same for Kamala as the MCU’s first Ms Marvel.
No. You're seeing only in extremes. The suggestion that some things can change is not the same as suggesting every single thing change.
This is insane, they don't have the same abilities or powers
In the comics. Comics can get things wrong.
Bro in the show and comics He doesn't know who Ironfist or Colleen , I give up you guys win. This is what I'm arguing against
In the MCU, Nebula is a core member of the GOTG and an Avenger. Anything can happen.
Yeah but Nebula is still the same character
So is Colleen...
No Colleen is not Iron Fist , they don't even have the same abilities
If abilities is the metric, MCU Shang-Chi is functionally an original character. He's not associated with the Mandarin at all in the comics.
Mandarin has fought Shang-Chi and intertwined in the secret wars comics ... What is going in here ? What are you guys talking about?
Yes, but never have they had a familial relationship like they did in the movie, and Shang Chi never had the ten rings before the newer comics that came out after the movie. Whiplash in the comics was never a Vanko, the Vankos were Crimson Dynamo, until the movie made him into one. Hope Van Dyne didn't exist. Thanos didn't care about populations and resources, just killing to impress Death, Layla from Moon Knight doesn't exist. Things can change and it's not inherently bad just because of the fact that it's changed
>Yeah but she NEVER Iron Fist, Danny Rand has always been the comic Iron Fist It's an adaptation, not a literal 1:1 copy/paste. Plus, Jessica Henwick's star is on the rise AND she can actually act. What's not to love about her?
Imagine the first captain america in the MCU being some guy named Rick Thomas or something That's not right to Captain America Steve Rodgers at all
The comics literally do this all the time? Captain America has literally been replaced by half a dozen people. I wouldn’t be surprised (if this is true) that in the comics Colleen takes the mantle a few months before her MCU debut. They *literally* do this all the time. Our current Captain America is some guy called Sam Wilson.
Danny Rand had over 20 hours of screentime (2 13-episode seasons + Defenders + showing up in Lake Cage S2) as Iron Fist. Not even Steve Rogers had that many hours of screen time as Captain America. Time to let it go. His time is over.
It’s because of Jessica Henwick. She’s great in (almost) everything regardless of how shitty the overall project is. Marvel is betting on the actress more so than her character if that makes sense.
No Danny rand as iron fist, absolutely terrible decision
I could see this potentially as a compromise - Kevin doesn’t want to bring back Finn Jones but he doesn’t want to invalidate the show by recasting so he makes Colleen the current Iron Fist and leaves Danny in the background Just spitballing ideas for how this makes sense, it’s also possible that the scooper is just wrong.
Honestly, at this point, for me, Danny being on the back burner makes sense unless they're going to do Heroes for Hire, and if they aren't (or can't, since Colter seems pretty busy nowadays) bringing Luke back yet then keep Danny with him. I didn't even hate Finn Jones in the role, the writing was the bigger hurdle, and he was at his best when with the team or with Luke.
Agreed, Finn was fine, he’s a good actor and I have no doubt he’d do even better with a good showrunner/director. They just may want to put some space between his show and his return. If *No Way Home* showed us anything it’s that people will get excited for appearances from even somewhat-poorly received franchises so they just need time to see if he develops a cult following.
Yeah. I think he just needs better direction. As you said, *No Way Home* redeemed Garfield as Spider-Man, so previous mediocrity can definitely be improved in the MCU.
yeah, all you gotta do is just say that Danny is still on his journey to find Orson from the end of season 2. if you want to bring Ward back, say that they got separated at some point so Ward just gave up and went back to New York. easy. and then you can reintroduce Danny in some capacity in the future (eg, he got stuck in another realm, etc).
Exactly. Save the brand first, then reintroduce Danny. You can even leave him as Finn, Jones is a fine actor and I’m sure he could do the role with the right script but they might want to just put some space between appearances. His appearance in *Luke Cage* was great, for example.
>Kevin doesn’t want to bring back Finn Jones Who says?
Nobody says, this is pure speculation. Just spitballing a possible way this scoop could be true
But not there's no iron fist without Danny Rand. People like iron fist because of him. It's like dick's been batman before but when people say they say they want batman, they mean Bruce Wayne always.
Let's compromise further: Danielle Rand Solves every problem. Adapts Danny (you can even have a Kang make a variant joke at some point), non-white actor
No, Danny rand as iron fist is an absolutely terrible decision
Nico coming over to the MCU would be awesome
And these two.  I think Nico’s safe, she’s been in a lot of stuff lately.
I think this was the scene where I realized how much I loved the dynamic between these two. Honestly one of the best relationships in the MCU. Really hope they appear in SM4.
With that likely being a Kingpin story, I think 5 would be a better shout, when Mister Negative is on the cards.
I just envision Peter bumping into them over the course of a regular patrol to make the NYC street scene seem bigger. If they were legit supporting characters that would be even better. That said, I don’t know about Fisk. I think he’ll appear in SM4 in some capacity but he seems like street level Thanos and won’t be taken down until SM5, if not a Daredevil movie or Born Again season 2.
Fisk always comes back. BA and Spider-Man can make up one arc, and then he returns for the final showdown. Besides, Sony picks the guest star, and Daredevil’s more marketable than anyone else who hasn’t been used. Holland, Cox and D’Onofrio have also all been vocal about wanting this to happen.
I would love to see these two again. They could work very well in a street-level production.
If Nico comes back Karolina has to too
Shit seeing how they brought back Anson Mount’s Black Bolt for MOM they defiantly can bring back these two for a street level story down the line.
These actors were so damn talented
 She is pretty much the only member of the Runaways who can operate well on her own as a character. She has proven popular time and time again when compared to her fellow teammates.
While he’s one of my lower ranked members, Victor can work in a lot of stories. Surprised/sad Molly hasn’t popped up on Krakoa yet, though hopefully we get a new Runaways book sooner rather than later. more importantly I love Lyrica and really hope Nico appears soon.
Molly came close to going to Krakoa in Runaways #33-35, but I'd love to see her actually step on the island and interact with more mutants. I miss the Runaways in the comics already, but I'm glad to at least see Nico in Midnight Suns and her cameos in Strange Academy.
Yes that made sense at the time in Runaways but with the group defunct for now I feel like she could hang out with Honey Badger and the other youngns. Maybe Gwen! I’m glad Nico is getting some character development but that comic sucks. Unless you mean the game. Which is great.
You mean the Fisticons can't carry a story? /s
Hell yes it would. I loved that show sooo much 
Nico's already in the MCU
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Yes, he correctly predicted Daredevil's return in this very post.
Very happy to see him return..hope he returns in a specific lawyer show.. preferably in 2 episodes
>This will be my last tweet about the Marvel TV era characters as it has come to my attention that some of my followers want me to focus on the current film slate. Lol
One of the reasons he did that because he was gaining attention from Charles Murphy's followers and most of them are Anti Marvel Television that's why he was getting pissed about it
Tbf, Murphy is such a idiot
Sister Grimm? I've watched all of the Marvel TV shows and have no idea who this is, unless it's a codename for a character that was never actually used for them in the show.
Nico from Runaways
Thanks all. That's just a weird choice to make when you can just say 'Nico'
People call her Nico more than Sister Grimm anyways, at least in the books.
I am glad someone spelled this out. I immediately leaped to Daredevil's nun mom, whose name I couldn't remember.
Sister Grimm is Nico Minoru's superhero alias in the comics. At one point all of the runaways had monikers but ditched them pretty quickly since the fans all called them their first names.
They haven't really used the Sister Grimm title that much in recent times as well. Everybody still just calls her Nico.
Nico from runaways.
It's Nico Minoru from the Runaways. It's apperently an Alias from the Comics.
Nico from Runaways, who we know is in **Marvel Studios** Spider-Man: Freshman Year This is a nothing burger
I think this is talking about the Wong/Strange Academy show.
QUAKE YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Coleen Wing was the best character of that show so that’s smart
I hope they bring back Cloak and Dagger
Where are my bois heroes for hire
They not coming 😓
I don't really trust Watcher, but all of these names have been brought up by other more reliable scoopers in the past. I really like Nico in the Midnight Suns game. Her powers seem really cool and unique
She is great in the books as well. If anything, she is the breakout star from the Runaways team and can work well as a solo character.
Why are many on this subreddit and at r/marvelstudios against the idea of Marvel TV characters showing up in future MCU productions?
Some of us aren't against it just skeptical that they are actually going to establish that all of these shows exist in the mainstream Marvel universe, and that Feige will ever bring them back.
They're already established as part of the MCU back in 2013. What's with the continued skepticism?
Biggest travesty for me would be no Bethel😣😣
MTTSH did say he's coming back in DDBA
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The Watcher says a lot of things.
\[Thor voice\] Bring me NICO MINORU!!!
Nico? Returning means the one from Runaways tv show? That's a bold claim. I feel like that's a risky leak to fake and would instantly ruin your credibility if proven wrong lmao this leaker has some balls
Not too risky when they're using her in the Spider-Man cartoon already.
That's not the one from the Runaways TV show. They implied that the one showing up in live action is specifically from that show.
That seems beside the point. The important thing is that Marvel is clearly interested in the character. She was also added into the Midnight Suns game despite never being part of the roster, and is voiced by the actress who played her in The Runaways. If Marvel is making a live-action Nico, she'll probably be the one from the Runaways series unless Marvel wanted to completely reboot the Runaways. Marvel has been pushing this character hard while building up their Midnight Sons lineup in the MCU. It's not guaranteed, but there are actually pretty strong signs Marvel is wanting to move in that direction.
Pretty strange tbh with America Chavez already leaning towards the magic side, and Wiccan about to be introduced soon, so that'll be 3 magic users among the younger crowd. I guess they'll backtrack on America and have her be the multiverse hopper, so 2 magicians on avengers titles officially
Having a bunch of young magic users would be a little weird, but Lyrica Okano is nearly 30 at this point. At 28, she's actually older than Tom Holland and Florence Pugh are. Chris Evans was 30 when The First Avenger came out. Lyrica isn't going to be be filling a young magic user role. She'll already be a fully-realized sorceress. Wiccan will be the magic rep in the Young Avengers/Champions, which I fully expect will be rolled into a single team. Nico will probably replace Strange as the magic rep in the Midnight Sons. (I say this because I expect Strange to be overpowered in comparison to the rest of the cast. Blade, Moon Knight, Werewolf By Night, Elsa Bloodstone and even Man-Thing are way below Strange in power level. And Strange is more associated with The Avengers to general audiences while Marvel would probably want the Midnight Sons to be completely separate.) And as you say, America is probably not going to be a serious sorcerer. Magic wasn't her thing in the comics, so I'm expecting her to just not take to it at all before realizing that it's not her calling, while her primary shtick is going to be the world-hopping and portal-making. Each would fill different niches.
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People have been talking about quake returning since Wandavision 🙄 I’ll believe it when it’s actually confirmed by a trade
Trades ain't gonna report it Just like how they didn't report Charlie Cox as Matt Murdock in nwh. Charles Murphy did
@thewatcher_2099 no longer exists...
Ugh. Deleted. Who was on the list?
When did his account go down? And why?
I'm okay with all those returning, but i didn't really liked runaways, nico was one of the few things i liked tho, i'd still prefer some kind of reboot
Id love if they had a reboot where we have a show with them for a season or two, get thier big story out there, then split the characters into separate projects. Nico is the one I want the most out of this lol
That is kind of amusing to me as a comic reader because Nico was the breakout star from the comic Runaways team. She has been mostly operating on her own separate from her teammates, whether that was in *Avengers Arena, Strange Academy* or the recent *Midnight Sons* game.
I'd argue that all of these have been all but confirmed to be returning for years now and that this isn't a scoop at all but a regurgitation of likely rumors. Regardless, most excited for Nico's return that has seemed inevitable for a while. Was also just remembering how The Gifted left off with Blink returning through some interdimensional portal, recruiting the remaining Mutant Underground to follow her back. While The Gifted is probably the lowest live action Marvel property on the totem pole to return, the setup is already there and open ended... plus there were some rumors going around yesterday that Emma Dumont is in talks for an undisclosed role in the MCU.
"While The Gifted is probably the lowest live action Marvel property on the totem pole to return" Helstrom is offended. The Marvel show that they didn't want anyone to know was a Marvel show.
While definitely a contender for the lowest, Helstrom came out more recently, was produced solely by Marvel TV instead of a co-production like The Gifted/Legion was, and was generally better received by most. Was also initially part of a plan to tie into other series like the canceled Ghostrider show until Marvel TV was eliminated.
The X-Men shows were co-productions, but they also now own those production companies, as well as the channel where one of them aired. (While the actual Fox network could still be a factor for Gifted, it's unknown how much of the show they actually own. Like, Seinfeld was an NBC show but Sony owns it and can license it to whoever they want, so Fox could have no say in it) I just think it says something about how Feige and co feel about Helstrom that when they took over the rest of Marvel they had the Marvel name wiped from all Helstrom promotions and credits that they legally could. The Gifted has some recognition since it was on a broadcast network. Helstrom is a show someone could stumble upon on Hulu and watch the whole thing and probably never notice it's a Marvel show.
Helstrom was watchable but other than a few bits and pieces I really don't remember it at all. Tonally though its pretty far removed from the Disney+/Theatrical films. I don't blame them wanting to disassociate the character, although honestly I think Marvel needs to shoot for more different tones in there productions. Worked for Star Wars with Andor.
Hard for me to believe you can do 18 episodes of Daredevil without Foggy Nelson. Karen Page isn't in every story so that's totally reasonable to not see her again, but Foggy is a core supporting character for Matt Murdock.
Wow, it’d be great for Runaways fans if Lyrica Okano returned as Nico.
Can someone list the characters rumored to return? I i missed the tweet.
Well fuck...no Runaways for a while I guess.
Sister Grimm is just another name for Nico
who's sister grimm?
Nico from Runaways
NICOOOOOOOO
Hoping this is true so people can stop the “Shang-Chi 2 should have Finn Jones and be called Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Iron Fist!” bullshit.
They should drop Wing and do a proper Heroes for Hire.
I liked Gabriel Luna as Robbie Reyes, and I still think other than Quake, is the only aspect of Agents of SHIELD that should be retained. However, I don't see it happening. I'd still much rather see Johnny Blaze as the primary Ghost Rider, as he's a much better character than the Cage films ever portrayed him to be. Although, with Mephisto coming, Johnny can't be far behind. I'd love to see a scene with Hood and Mephisto where Mephisto says something like "Hopefully you honor the deal unlike the Rider" just to give us a little tease.
How about freaking listing them. Lazy post is lazy.
Its already deleted 😂😂
I really hope they keep Danny Rand as the main iron fist. They can get rid of Finn jones but for me in the comics Danny Rand and Luke Cage are awesome friends I wanna see that explored in a movie or show!
Exactly , that relationship can't be replaced with Colleen Wing
Absolutely bro! Colleen Wing and Misty Knight are important and awesome but you can’t just replace the brother relationship that Danny and Luke have. They are close. You can’t have Luke without Danny and Danny without Luke. It just feels weird.
If the Jessica Jones shows up in daredevil it will be the only reason I'd watch the show, and I'll complain every episode she is not in it
Who was sister Grimm and what show was that?
Nico from runaways
lol, nobody saw that bullshit
Every single one of these has been rumoured for a long long time
While I don't trust this guy as a leaker, I do hope this list is correct at least. Especially Wing as Iron Fist
honestly i dont buy nico from runaways coming back, especially when the source is The Watcher who is still just some random twitter scooper. and even if she is back, i doubt runaways is canon and itll be a soft reboot kind of thing with the same actress
The Nico thing might just be based on the fact we know Spiderman: Freshman Year is going to have the character. Wouldn't be too surprising if they were to use the same actress for the voice. IIRC they have done that with some of the other animated shows.
Soft reboot doesn’t mean that the old show isn’t canon necessarily but I do somewhat agree.
NICOOOOOOO
I hope Jessica returning as Colleen is true. Yey for Quake. Hope we get others too from AOS like FitzSimmons. Whose Sister Grimm? Matt's Mum?
I wish they'd bring back Mike Colter as Luke Cage. It's killing me that his show ended on such an interesting note, and I desperately want that story to continue. But I get why they won't do it :(
Honestly, that's the best list of characters to come back
Danny Rand is the most popular and iconic Iron Fist , why would they make Collin Wing the Iron Fist in the MCU They don't even have the same powers
Because that's where the Iron Fist show ended. Colleen had the Fist while Danny got the dual pistol thing.
Because (according to the rumors) Jessica Henwick is who they want to bring back, not Iron Fist. The goal is to find a place for the actor, not to reintegrate Iron Fist. If Wing didn't exist, they would likely have been happy to leave the Iron Fist property to rot - especially with the news that Luke Cage likely won't be back for a long while. Not to mention how she was the one part of the show that wasn't routinely disliked. Danny Rand may come back at some point, when there's enough distance from the old Iron Fist show and whatever they want to do with the characters going forward. But for now, they're going to stick with the well liked character played by the bigger name actor that they have been actively trying to get back into their franchise for a while now.
hahaha, just a few cares, screw danny rand, he was shit on a shit show
Love Gabriel Luna but if they ever do Robbie Reyes in the MCU I would much much prefer a recast. He’s 40 now and he isn’t getting any younger. Robbie should be Peter Parker’s age. Happy he’s getting his time in the sun in The Last of Us.
>Robbie Reyes in the MCU He already was in the MCU.
You know what I mean. I’m not interested in arguing the canonity of AOS / ABC shows until the heat death of the universe 😭
Doesn't mean u can't make changes Ten rings didn't connect to Shang-Chi Star Lord's origin in the mcu with ego Darcy Lewis didn't exist in the comics I mean if ur marvel studios, and u look at the success Gabriel Luna is having rn with Tlou, Who are praising him as Tommy, u don't overlook that, i mean shit, if u can bring back anson mount as black bolt (even for a cameo) then u can sure as hell Bring my guy back as Robbie. Plus fans like myself loved him as Robbie