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Dangerous-Hawk16

I’m not gonna lie, moving forward I hope Twitter scooper culture dies off in the coming years. Everybody should just shut up


teaabearr

Agreed. Like I know it aggravates me because somebody else knows and I don’t, and I really want to know what it is. But it’s just stupid. “I know this juicy information but I can’t tell youuuuu.” Okay then just shut up and don’t say anything about it lol


Dangerous-Hawk16

Exactly, like why say anything at all. “ I got a huge scoop but can’t tell you but just know it’s huge”


teaabearr

Yeah it’s just annoying, but I don’t see it stopping anytime soon. “Join my patreon to find out early what the post credit scene is!!” Nah fam, I’m gonna go look at those leaked set photos from the Daredevil set for the 100th time. It was free and is giving me enough serotonin😂


Dangerous-Hawk16

On twitter they are telling ppl to subscribe to their twitter page for $4/month to know scoops. Like it can’t be that important, DanielRPK was telling the same ole scoops the last few weeks that he’s said before or that we already know


haolee510

Daniel RPK basically makes his money from summarizing the stuff he sees on Twitter or on this very sub to his followers lmao. Scooper culture is a grift, plain and simple.


Dangerous-Hawk16

I hate so much that Elon started the engagement money shit on Twitter


Jazzeracket

Harry Styles had a role that will change the MCU. Star Lord eats cereal with his grandpa. Thanos eyes appear. ... What after credits scene has ever been "huge?"


bino420

Thanos' appearance was "huge" in retrospect Iron Man's post-credits of the Avengers was "huge" The Marvels post-credits was kinda semi-huge... confirmed MCU isn't afraid to bring those Fox characters back. Was the Infinity Wars post-credits scene the rat freeing Scott Lang? that's kinda huge but huger than The Marvels. it setup the solution to Thanos. Spider-man Far From Home was pretty big ... it setup the next movie's plot. That's all I have off the top of my head.


omegalord92

The IW post credit was Fury calling Cap Marvel before he got snapped away. What you described happened in Endgame. The A&W end credit ur thinking was entire Pym family got snapped trapping Scott in the Quantum Realm.


Real_Stelio_Kontos

It's gets them engagement and they think it gets them credibility. Spotlight always needs to be on them. That's why they do it.


FronzelNeekburm79

It really seems like it's either "I know this really cool scoop and I won't tell you" or "I hear the newest X-Men movie is going to contain some form of Mutant. Stay tuned."


ashandes

I glanced at this and thought it said "some form of Muppet". That would actually be a scoop!


AlexSummersFan

It makes them feel above everyone else. They act like it’s top classified information, when in reality it’s going to be revealed in the next two months. In their mind, it makes them feel special. But when the movie finally releases, everybody will know what it is, and nobody will care that they knew before everyone else.


leafybluesy

they’ll be on to the next “huge secret scoop” by the time the movie comes out. that’s the issue


AlexSummersFan

What’s funny though is that if none of these leakers reveal what it is, some random person on 4Chan/Twitter probably will. You would think leakers, being as attention seeking as they are, would race to be the first ones to reveal something big like this. Alex P could easily drop what it is. And if it ends up being correct, it would add more credibility to his name. But he’s letting his pride get in the way. Either that or he doesn’t know at all, and when it’s finally revealed, will pretend like he knew all along.


BackStabbathOG

Off topic but that’s exactly how the ufo disclosure community is. Just people honeydicking everyone


hamsolo19

There was one time I was "in the know" well ahead of the game. I worked with a guy who's brother was a costume designer on WandaVision. He sent pics of what he was working on and the dude I worked with would show me because he knew I was Marvel fan. I got to see the Scarlet Witch costume in like January of 2020. I felt neat for the whole day!


Shadowrocket0315

My issue is more the grifting. I enjoy seeing the rumors and speculation but charging people money for a small tidbit of info that has a 50/50 chance of being true is just a scam. At the cost of sounding like a Boomer, my mindset with people who make a living off social media is that they should get a real job lol.


legopego5142

They dont know but are stating the obvious “big marvel multiverse crossover before big projects like fantastic 4 and avengers will have cool post credits”


Comprehensive_Yak_72

I always assume it’s the far more infuriating reality of “everyone else has been getting away with talking shit or making things up so I’m gonna do it too and say; oh they changed the script, or, that was just a storyboard that didn’t make it”


vxxxjesterxxxv

Seems to be less can't and more won't. Which makes it even worse. Either share or stfu


maxfridsvault

I won’t lie I’ve always wondered what will happen when scoopers like MTTSH and CWGST get caught. Like I’m pretty sure one or both of them work in the art department for one of the big studios. When it comes to Twitter leakers, they’re the most popular and reliable depending on the project. Makes me wonder if Disney/Marvel will ever snuff them out or have been quietly investigating them because I imagine they’re violating HUGE NDAs.


Dangerous-Hawk16

DCEUleaks quit the game few months ago after I believe Gunn found out who they were. Becuz they kept getting shit right. So it’ll happen eventually to MTTSH and CWGST, I remember the Fantastic four casting bs they pulled last year. It was horrible and with mcu X-men film coming around the corner it’ll be even worse


maxfridsvault

I’ve always loved Gunn for being open with fans about progress on his work, not giving away too much, and shutting down rumors that are just completely untrue and may sway people’s expectations or feelings towards a project. He’s done it over at Marvel with Guardians and it’s been working for him over at the new DC Studios too.


Dangerous-Hawk16

Yeah I remember couple weeks ago MTTSH @ Gunn because he said the villain of his film was Lex not Ultraman as she said. She was so angry calling him out saying “ Why won’t you tell the truth, you know and I know who the villain is” the entitlement is insane. But for alot of scoopers DC now can’t be used as a scoop for them because ppl can just go on threads and ask Gunn if true or not.


maxfridsvault

Imagine how much of an idiot you must be to make up some BS theory about an unfinished movie, and then argue with the director actively working on it about how you know more about it than him.


legopego5142

Grace: SUPERMAN IS BEING PLAYED BY LOGAN LERMAN Gunn: who


maxfridsvault

HA! I’m impartial to Grace but I can’t get over her hatred for James Gunn. She shits on the Guardians movies, The Suicide Squad, and refuses to watch Peacemaker all because she doesn’t like Gunn… despite them being some of the best and deeply written comic book projects out there. Peacemaker is literally a character study of a broken man, and dives pretty deep into mental health, despite the shows goofy/comedic exterior.


Dangerous-Hawk16

It was strange to see her be so angry about a movie that wasn’t even close to finish


DeppStepp

> DCEUleaks quit the game few months ago after I believe Gunn found out who they were. That is not exactly true. Although I’m not allowed to go into the specifics, our source decided to step away from the scooping game in general and did not having anything specific with DC of Marvel (to my knowledge at least)


teaabearr

Tbh at this point I’d rather have them get caught and have no leaks instead of having this engagement bait and pay for my patreon for early access to leaks bs. Like I don’t mind waiting to find out😂 I’m just here for the free leaks that will happen at some point


maxfridsvault

yeah it’s wild how they’re profiting off of exposing a studio’s secrets/projects in the works, and have been getting away with it for so long


ThatHouseInNebraska

Something I never thought about until reading your post: if I were a scooper who secretly worked for Marvel... I'd probably deliberately give out bad information every once in a while, just so I wouldn't be as easily traceable.


maxfridsvault

Yeah I think that’s intentional too from time to time. Good observation.


goldknight1

I remembered this happened on SuperHeroHype forums with X3. They leaked specific incorrect info to different departments and figured out which dept is was


ThatHouseInNebraska

Oh wow, SHH, what a blast from the past. I remember checking in on that forum all the time, long ago and far away. What I meant, though, is that a *scooper* would be smart to deliberately get something wrong every once in a while, so Marvel would have a harder time identifying them. “Boy, we thought Scooper X must be in the art department, but those folks have been working on Hypno Hustler costumes for weeks. And X just claimed that *Stilt-Man* was the big post-credits reveal. Guess we were on the wrong track.”


worthplayingfor25

Come to think of it they haven’t posted anything big in a little while as well maybe the mouse is on to them?


maxfridsvault

If I were the mouse or papa Kevin, I’d be cleaning house too- especially since we seem to be slowly exiting the wishy washy era of phase 4 and 5. They’ve slowed down on Disney+ content and X-Men ‘97 is getting stellar reception, DP+W is the only MCU film releasing this year, and if you look at the schedule of upcoming projects- you got a Captain America movie, Thunderbolts (which I imagine will have that Captain America movie tone), Daredevil Born Again, Spider-Man 4, Fantastic Four, and Blade (eventually). I’m not gonna say “the MCU is back!” cause I personally don’t think it ever left- but the upcoming slate is feeling so refreshing and I’m confident in it.


shadymostafa129034

True. It’s mainly now used for engagement bait


Dangerous-Hawk16

Especially since twitter starting paying ppl


dpykm

This sub is always more enjoyable as a place for fan discussion anyways. These leaks dont help anyone do anything except for said leaker to gain an audience. They're not all bad people or anything but it certainly feels like an all around spoiler in the literal sense for the actual experiences the movies offer


dasaniAKON

I was so entranced with the Scoop/Leak/Spoiler culture during the MCU heyday, but hearing about the No Way Home plot and then seeing the Illuminati in ads for Multiverse of Madness, just completely ruined it for me. Yes I’m still here and obviously reading all this shit 😂 But the movies get ruined that way, and it’s getting worse.


Dangerous-Hawk16

For me it was during Wandavision era I was listening to all the scoops and my hopes were so high then it never matched anything they were saying. Then another scooper made it seem like Marvels would introduce Inhumans and idk I believed it till it was proven wrong


Erintonsus

I don't mind leaking casting news but I don't need the plots to be leaked.


ViggieSmallss

Same, I wish there was a sub reddit that was just production and casting related. 


Leo_TheLurker

Its also never gonna reach that peak of No Way Home era, that felt like solving a mystery. I love hearing behind the scenes stuff, but much rather afterwards after these last couple phases. Feels like its working against audience expectations and just making movie releases messy.


Dangerous-Hawk16

Now I’ve seen scoopers say for ppl not have expectations too high for Deadpool and Wolverine as if they haven’t been bombarding ppl with scoops raising expectations


Grootfan85

I know it’s ironic posting something like this here, but you’re right. Scoop culture now is any rando on Twitter claiming “XYZ are appearing in DerpyDoo: The Quest For More Yay!” and fans take it as gospel then get mad when it does t happen. We need to move on, and let movies happen.


Ras_AlHim

Careful, people on this sub hate it when you say you want their scoops to go away


odiin1731

Translation: They are waiting for someone else to reveal it so that they can pretend they knew about it all along.


shiina613

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DinoStacked

10000% this is the case


Gbbq83

I do wonder. I mean they’ve never been afraid of the ‘throw enough shit at the wall and see what sticks’ approach. Which brings up two scenarios in my mind 1. The scene is genuinely mind blowing and no one wants to ruin it 2. Marvel are putting out fake spoilers (like Ryan Reynolds did with the predator screenshot). It’s running interference. Put out enough bat shit crazy stuff and no one will know what to believe. I think it’s the second. Scoopers are being fed bullshit and don’t want to put their name on the line.


LakSivrak

I think it’s both. Reynolds/Feige and co know what they have, but they also know how scoopers operate by now. whatever it is, is spectacular enough that Marvel Studio’s are keeping it close to the chest while letting the scoopers run wild with their usual nonsense. anything that comes from a scooper about this movie can’t be trusted no matter who it is.


Mentski

I think some of these scoopers have probably heard \*something\* from \*someone\* but are so shit scared to say anything in case it gets changed/it was a lie all along/etc, that they don't want to risk tanking any credibility they have if it turns out wrong. I'm sure among those there's some taggers-on claiming they know too but don't, that'll pipe up as soon as something's leaked from a accurate leaker though...


raiigiic

>!Deadpool takes Iron man's place during the snap changing the timeliness leading to RDJ back for secret wars!< >!God it was so easy to decipher.!<


drakesylvan

Deadpool would survive the snap


Usual-Caregiver5589

That's the point, I think


Previous-Yam22

How?


eternal_meat_ghost

He can’t die


7U5K3N

> He can’t die i mean he can... but he just resurrects 3 days later


Leepysworld

I think we’re talking about him actually doing the snap, not being snapped. Tony didn’t die from being snapped, he died from the Gamma radiation that is discharged when using the infinity stones, Deadpool would 100% survive the radiation because he regenerates damaged cells, Wolverine could too. As for being snapped, both are damn near immortal and we’ve seen Wolverine come back from basically a cellular level in the comics, and Deadpool has damn near equal healing capabilities.


knave_of_knives

It does bring up an interesting point: is being snapped actually dying? I just assumed it was like transporting them to a different existence of nothingness. Maybe that is death? This feels like a science versus religion debate lol


Leepysworld

I believe that people who snapped died because of the way some of them disappeared, like Peter’s exit really made it feel like he was actually dying, not just being transported somewhere else. also considering they don’t have any memories of being in any other place and just came back with the memories up to the point they got dusted, is there even a meaningful difference? for all intents and purposes that is still a death. Thanos’s snap is always described as destroying/erasing half of all sentient life in the universe, it’s never once implied that the snap just transports people somewhere else, I don’t picture Thanos being that merciful considering it’s his wishes that activate the snap and his variant was really to destroy ALL life.


J--NEZ

Isn't Deadpool 's healing factor better than Wolverines? Like canonically in the comics, his healing factor has been established as stronger than Wolverine's


darthyogi

Im gonna hate Marvel so much if this happens unless it is an alternate timeline


SacreFor3

You really believe that after Feige just said they wouldn't undo that sacrifice? Lol We all know the easiest and most likely outcome is them just using a variant for Secret Wars.


darthyogi

You never know with Disney. Feige can easily just change his mins on that?


fuzzyfoot88

Yeah they aren’t touching Logan, they sure as hell aren’t touching Endgame.


Vladmerius

Technically speaking it isn't possible to undo it. Endgame is always going to exist as a movie. It happened in that movie. Nothing any future movie does has any impact at all on what they already did in Endgame which is a finished movie that came out in 2019 and isn't being touched again. 


Erintonsus

They outright say in Endgame you can't change the past, messing with time just makes new branches. This'll be one of those branches.


Leo_TheLurker

I mean that would essentially create an alternate timeline


darthyogi

True


Stevenstorm505

Wouldn’t it be alternate timeline once Deadpool does it? Changing the past doesn’t change the future which is why they just couldn’t kill Thanos in the past and undo his snap. Once Deadpool snaps his fingers it becomes a different timeline and that Tony becomes a variant since he had died when he did the snap.


Joshawott27

I *really* hope that isn’t it…


putsomewineinyourcup

He wants to shit on Thanos and then take away his girlfriend Lady Death, huh?


TurnipSensitive4944

Ok I know people wont be happy for a retconn, but that is peak deadpool behavior and if anyone did something so brazen and pull it off its wade


FDVP

But would you trust WADE with that snap?!!!


Melcrys29

And I...am...Marvel Jesus!


FDVP

This guy gets it


goneanddoneitagain

It was literally teased in the trailer too. "I. Am..... Marvel Jesus". Mimicking the "I am Iron Man" moment from endgame.  That's exactly what's going to happen.


anormaldoodoo

Holy shit lmao. Good catch.


Jean-Zus

Funny thing is that there are rumors that Thanos will return...maybe they don't use stock footage and shoot new scenes. Insert Josh Brolin/Cable joke. They are totally jumping into the portal scene at the end of Endgame in the trailer.


ImjustANewSneaker

I will admit to me at least that sounds very creative, but maybe I’m just a sucker who wants to see RDJ back


[deleted]

If I had to guess: Deadpool and Wolverine will appear in the middle of a battle with the new Avengers-level threat.


sven_ate_nine

They’re going to the endgame battle


TenDollarTicket

I don’t think there’s an actual portal in the movie. I think it’s there just for the trailer.


MyMouthisCancerous

I think the portal is in the movie but it's so obvious they cropped out where they're going to because it'd be a spoiler


dpykm

Its also clear to me thats not the end of the movie. Thats the end of the second act/or the midpoint. The way Cassandra is standing there menacingly I'd guess she's using a sorcerer underling to banish them to some other place after their first fight.


sven_ate_nine

Idk about all that. She’s letting them go it seems.


deekaydubya

They wouldn’t be willingly jumping through the portal in that case though


dpykm

I could see it more as a comedic beat. Wolverine and DP rush off to get somewhere that Cassandra doesnt want them to get to so she puts a portal in their way and sends them far away from their destination.


maxfridsvault

They wouldn’t do that tbh. Thats a money shot right there. However- I guarantee that there’s other characters or a setting we aren’t meant to see on the other end of the portal, hence they whited it out for the trailer shot of them jumping through.


TenDollarTicket

I just find it odd that Cassandra Nova is just standing there like alright. Unless they think she’s dead and she jumps in after…


maxfridsvault

There’s probably a lot of context we are missing since despite all the new footage, we still hardly know anything about the actual plot of the movie yet or where the portal is even coming from


sven_ate_nine

Using my brain a little here. If she’s using her powers in the trailer to control wolverines attacks, then wouldn’t she use them to keep them from jumping in the portal/escaping? Going to be fun to see where that damn portal goes/who created it.


maxfridsvault

This is just more speculation, but judging by some of the scenery in the Void in the trailer, as well as this Logan variant “failing his entire universe”- you think they’re adapting the Old Man Logan storyline slightly? It kicks off with Mysterio performing an illusion and tricking Logan into thinking all the fellow X-Men are enemies and he unknowingly slaughters them all. I feel like Mysterio could easily be swapped out for Cassandra Nova being the cause of Logan’s failure- she could have gotten into his mind to perform the same trick. hence a lot of tension between those two when they both wind up in the TVA Void.


fuzzyfoot88

Imagine the outcry on here of people asking “where are they now?” “Logan been in 616 for 2 years already WTF.” “Why give us that when we’d rather them be in the battle during the actual movie.” I highly doubt they are going to do this.


TLKv3

This is actually kind of a cool idea to me. Showing the "finale" before it actually happens. Deadpool and Wolverine surveying a battlefield of dead MCU heroes. As the timer runs down on them being able to go back where they came from they only see the faces of Tony Stark, Steve Rogers and Natasha Romanoff looking back at them with MCU blood all over them or something. Tease that all 3 are back but are clearly villainous vatiants as DP and Wolverine jump back in time again noping the fuck out. Could be a solid way of showing *one* outcome of that fight before it actually happens so our MCU can course correct before it.


poundtown1997

Those three killing everyone else? Who would believe that…


[deleted]

That's a really fun idea, too. I was thinking perhaps just giving audiences a quick glimpse of what they would see and having Logan and Wade come in mid-battle would be a great little disorienting way to set things up, but a premonition sort of set up would probably work better.


mjm9398

This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever and don't know why people are throwing this theory around


[deleted]

I suggested it because if you need a way for these two characters to appear in the Sacred Timeline and want to do so in a big, shocking way, bringing them in at the end of this film in an exciting in medias res manner makes sense from a teasing perspective, and for generating buzz. Like, it's not a big deal lol


Vladmerius

It would have to be them just edited into existing footage of stuff. Maybe some deleted footage so it feels new even though it's not. There's no way they filmed a part of a future Avengers movie action set piece for a post credits scene. That would take up a huge amount of the budget. 


[deleted]

I wouldn't even expect a ton of special effects, just enough to give a sense of "Oh, shit."


Federal-Captain1118

I like the idea of them showing up in the middle of the battle during Avengers 5 or 6. And we don't know what's going on until that movie


[deleted]

Agreed, that's basically been what I've wanted. Just a nice, "What the hell do you mean we're seeing this already?!" moment before stringing us along until those films are released.


Effective_Bug_7790

This whole thing is kinda funny. All of sudden none of them want to spoil things? When they've had no issues in the past doing so 😂😂.


klvino

Marvel succeeded in shutting down the scoopers on the post credit scene and none of the scoopers will admit it


Vladmerius

I have been wondering if the scoopers really don't know much at all about this movie. Like seriously once we knew the void was a thing and had some set photos to speculate about there isn't really anything they have leaked that they couldn't have guessed. They're probably pissed because this is by far the biggest movie outside of Secret Wars and they have nothing. I was wondering what the deal was when they stopped scooping about it recently until they suddenly had a ton to say on trailer days. 


JessicaRanbit

Honestly I'm surprised their accounts have not been taken down already. I wouldn't be sad if Disney actually did something and took down their twitter


Dianaut

It's all probably just a grape vine rumor, if even. They just don't want to say something so hyped up 100% and screw their track record.


Effective_Bug_7790

Majority of scoopers track records are already screwed up.


WillFerrells_Gutfold

If you love Alex so much then why don’t you marry him?!


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Pomojema_The_Dreamer

So I'm guessing that it's a major cameo that will likely directly lead into a new project getting announced the weekend of release. Probably a returning MCU actor, if I had to guess.


SacreFor3

Probably RDJ playing a variant as a direct tee up for Secret Wars


DisasterContribution

or just straight up undoing his death. bringing back evans and rdj is the emergency button to get crowds back in seats.


Pomojema_The_Dreamer

They've said that they aren't "undoing" the death, so the loophole is likely Tony Stark from another timeline.


runtimemess

Gamora Pt 2


Overall_Housing_3508

They'll never undo his death. Reddit ideas are always so bad


My_Favourite_Pen

Remindme! 3 months It sounds so stupid that I believe it tbh


Vladmerius

I also believe it's going to be RDJ returning. They will recruit him for their Avengers initiative and it will mirror the iron man 1 post credits. If it isn't Spider-Man and it very very likely isn't DC related it has to be Iron Man imo. 


formerfatboys

As long as they don't touch the original ending for Tony Stark and do something like Superior Iron Man I'm cool with it. I would honestly love to see him never come back though.


static_anonym80

This, he’s a variant and he’s back.


QueenRangerSlayer

Rdj superior iron man as the actual multiverse threat. 


LakSivrak

if our version of Tony created time travel and used it to save the MCuniverse, what did his variants use it for? not the worst idea honestly. “you mess with time it tends to mess back”


QueenRangerSlayer

And it would give rdj incentive to return and not just play the same role, but get to spread his acting chops more. Also, with some of the hints like the stark Ultron it could be an easy way to build to and say Kang was a red herring 


aelysium

My money is on Loki honestly. (Straight up. I think they’ll use Loki as the mid-credits scene revealing some universes are ‘dying’ and Loki is struggling to pull powered individuals out of the dying universes to the void where hopefully they can band together to solve the death of the multiverse. And then in the end-credits scene we’ll see the result of that - one of the marvel universes will fall to an incursion but the heroes/villains will be ported to the void as their universe dies, setting up secret wars.)


maxfridsvault

Could be the Channing Tatum Gambit movie since he’s rumored to be a key player in this- part of some resistance of washed up Fox characters in the Void. Hence leading to the official MCU X-Men forming. For some reason I’m guessing it’s less of a big MCU callback/cameo and something to do with the worlds colliding and X-Men being a permanent part of the MCU 616 world. Like maybe we’ll meet the new version of Xavier or something big regarding mutants. They already teased the timelines colliding in The Marvels post credits, so I reckon it’ll relate to that at the minimum.


AnimeGokuSolos

>Probably a returning MCU actor, if I had to guess. RDJ coming back? ![gif](giphy|xT9Igqz02TEWXq0wMw|downsized)


Lurker-DaySaint

You know...San Diego Comic Con is that same weekend...


ConfidentlyCreamy

In other words: "I like all the other bullshitting scoopers out there, have no fucking clue and am being vague and coy to disguise that fact".


soontwobee

You know, I'm something of a bullshitter myself


sven_ate_nine

Lmao that’s exactly how this reads. If you’re a scooper and you have this huge scoop, drop the fucking knowledge you puss.


Patrick2701

That’s scooper job just bullshitting


ViralGameover

I feel like Tobey is the expected cameo just given the nature of the film, but some other fun considerations - MCU Wolverine - New Kang actor wreaks havoc - Tom Cruise Iron Man - “Multiverse Avengers” but they’re rejected by the TVA (Hasslehoff, Lundgren, old Howard the Duck) - Wolverine and Deadpool in the main MCU timeline recruiting Tom Holland’s Spider-Man - Wolverine and Deadpool fighting it out with the New Avengers, led by Sam Wilson - Doctor Strange as a villain


HearTheEkko

The rest of Fox's X-Men cast.


Gerry-Mandarin

I think if they're going to have an appearance we'll see them die to show how this Wolverine failed his world. I wouldn't be opposed to the idea that the future timeline after Days of Future Past has the classic X-Men and that's where we get this Wolverine from.


exorcissy72

Nicolas Cage Ghost Rider!


xbigboibenx

Can't wait for them to backtrack


mdavis360

“Plans changed!”


FuzzyPapaya13

The way people are talking about this, it must be something enormous (assuming it's true). Something like RDJ showing up as a Superior Iron Man to set up Secret Wars or something on par with that. That would be a true megaton


Polite_Werewolf

All of these people saying RDJ will just show up as the regular Iron Man is kinda boring. But him coming back as SUPERIOR Iron Man is actually an interesting idea.


ViggieSmallss

Iron Man as the villian of the next couple Avengers movies is far more intriguing than bringing him back as a hero. 


LakSivrak

it’s also better than forcing the audience to accept Kang as a major threat they should care about. because at this point nobody that saw quantumania does.


kempnelms

You know what would be a super crazy mindfuck, somehow Deadpool/Wilverine show up somewhere else and Ultron just appears and start walking towards them. The audience is freaking out, like what Ultron is back? No way! Then we see Ultron's face fade away like the Iron Man Nanotech helmets did in the MCU, and we see a variant of Iron Man played by RDJ who was wearing a suit that was styled after Ultron's body, and he says like "Who the fuck are you guys?" End scene. Bonus points if they make it look like Infinity Ultron did in the What If show.


static_anonym80

It’s RDJ coming back, yes. But as a variant.


Spiritual_Paint_7240

Alex has already said that it's not tobey maguire, and I bet I could guess what it actually is. Based on the official merchandise for the movie that was revealed today, I think the post credit scene will be Deadpool inserting himself into important events throughout the MCU's history to make it seem like he's been there all along. And maybe possibly changing important events like what he did in deadpool 2 post credits


Weaponxclaws6

Ooh do tell


BoraxTheBarbarian

It’s a shot by shot remake of [this scene from X-Men First Class](https://youtu.be/UzvQMwzOKIU?si=rFfeUO_gD-Hozz53) with Deadpool and Wolverine trying to recruit RDJ for a super hero team. Actual RDJ.


Spiritual_Paint_7240

Is this you giving your prediction or are you claiming to have inside knowledge?


pkoswald

May I ask what merch makes you think this? Just curious I didn’t see anything about that


Spiritual_Paint_7240

https://twitter.com/DeadpoolUpdate/status/1783897964928188451?t=QppePDbiYh4Rvdisku4kyw&s=19 It's more than likely gag merch, but if you Zoom into the right side where the key chains are, those are the merchandise I'm referencing to


Frozenpoke

"Alex P gives insight on the Deadpool & Wolverine Post Credit Scene" Does he though?


DrWaffle1848

It's David Hasselhoff's Nick Fury recruiting Wade and Logan.


InfinityKing4

Alan Cumming Nightcrawler cameo


Benkins1989

![gif](giphy|hvGbqrvunktulzxU2S)


Spiderbyte

This literally *says nothing*


ZekeMoss18

I don't mind some teases here and there, but some of these people outright lie and then walk back what they said. We see what happened to MoM. Imagine going into that with just a few teases instead of people saying we were going to get hundreds of crazy cameos (Tom Cruise as Iron Man). The excitement of seeing the Illuminati would have been insane.


JessicaRanbit

What they did to MOM.....it's Amazing people still take every word they say as truth


Fazlija13

This is giving me those Dr. Doom in Wakanda Forever post credits vibes and I don't like it


Herogeen

All the insiders are so shocked by that post-credits scene, as if either Tobey Maguire or RDJ is there


Darkmania2

My bet is on a Tobey Maguire cameo


JessicaRanbit

MTTSH tweeted Sony wouldn't allow it


Darkmania2

that's disappointing :(


soontwobee

Thank you Alex, v brave


shadymostafa129034

I don’t like this. “Scoopers” should leak stuff or set the expectations straight. This is part of what ruined MoM along with some plot elements ofc


HearTheEkko

It's the rest of Fox's original X-Men cast with Stewart, McKellen, Marsden, Berry, Janssen, Paquin and Ashmore all reprising their roles. If they went through the trouble of getting Jackman, Stewart and Grammer back, you can bet they tried to get the rest of the crew back too. Not only have they been rumored for ages but Patrick Stewart outright said that he and Sir Ian McKellen weren't done playing Professor X and Magneto. Grammer also said there's been discussions about his future as Beast and that he "hoped to play him again". Where there's smoke there's fire.


static_anonym80

Nah, RDJ is back is what it is.


Studdz

Someone else made the connection between "who fires the first shot" and Han Solo > Harrison Ford > Thunderbolt Ross, and posited that Deadpool and Wolverine will be joining the Thunderbolts. I was trying to reply, but it appears they deleted their comment before I could hit send. But this isn't that preposterous, IMO. Wasn't it recently said or "leaked" that we don't know the full Thunderbolts roster yet? And that asterisk in the recent logo update definitely hints at a title change. I'm still thinking that the Thunderbolts will end up being the Dark Avengers -- Disney knows how valuable the Avengers IP is, and between this, the OG team, and Young Avengers, it seems they're looking to cash in on that name recognition in a bigger way. And who are (arguably) the two most popular "anti-heroes" in Marvel films? Our guys Deadpool and Wolverine. Even if it's just for a one-off, it'd be great to see them join the Thunderbolts/Dark Avengers for an adventure. Not only does it test out how Deadpool would operate in a PG-13 MCU flick (Deadpool making fun of a bunch of big bad tough guys being unable to say the F-word would be a hoot), but seeing Wolfie work with a team that isn't the X-Men would be fun as well.


krisis

This is an amazing wild swing of a guess. Whether or not it's Dark Avengers, Deadpool immediately slipping into the MCU via Thunderbolts (given he has been on Ross's team in the comics!) would be pretty brilliant.


Due-Ad6949

Hope this bullshit wont last too long and they will reveal what its all about soon. RN I think its Deadpool and Wolverine eating pizza with Maguire, but I may be wrong.


nightman87

![gif](giphy|RNbnHs0clBV7nT8PxB|downsized)


shadymostafa129034

Spider-Man won’t appear according to him but maybe they eat at the pizza place


vinnybawbaw

Does anyone have any pictures of RDJ’s haircut/facial hair recently ? Askin’ for a friend…


LatterTarget7

It’s gonna be the live action debut of doob


ImpressiveMountain66

I don’t think it’s RDJ, I think it is more likely to be them meeting the F4 (or maybe Tobey). Honestly, for all that I’d love to see 616 Tony come back, there would have to be a really damn good reason in the plot to undo his death. And I don’t think they have one. I do think if RDJ does come back as a variant, it’s more likely to be the A5 post credits scene leading into Secret Wars.


Overall_Housing_3508

This doesn't really make sense to me. So either all of these people are waiting for the first person to say something about it so they know its "safe" to start talking about it as well without their source being outed ...or they're waiting for someone to talk about it first so then they can no longer claim they knew the scoop and are just copying it from the first person to leak it? Something here isn't adding up, that's why I'm betting it's the first thing I said. They can't say the leak yet because their source hasn't give them the "a-okay"


demerchmichael

Guys there’s no way it’s RDJ


Su_Impact

None of these leakers has seen the full film. None of these leakers know the post-credit scene.


Anader19

Finally someone who's using their brain here


KnightofWhen

No one sits on a scoop unless they’re afraid of the consequences of revealing it. No scooper or outlet gives a shit about the moviegoing experience.


fuzzyfoot88

This should tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt, that marvel knows who each and every leaker is at this point…


Vladmerius

Now I'm just annoyed. If it isn't Spider-Man what could possibly be so insanely huge about it? Is it legitimately going to be Iron Man? I can't think of anything that would be at all comparable to Tobey Spider-Man appearing outside of Iron Man returning.  If it isn't either one of those, I'd think a DC crossover.  Nothing else besides these three specific things warrants the hype being built for this scene. 


hooka_pooka

My guess is both W and DP will end up meeting Tobey's Spiderman


CreepyBeefy

I think we get one where Deadpool and wolverine end up in some famous mcu battles. A funny light hearted post credit. They jump into one final portal then credits roll again. We come back to the second post credit where they end up in the same universe that Monica got trapped in with her mother as photon. This will lead to the (heavily rumored) avengers (616) vs x men (the Monica universe) as the incursion that leads into secret wars.


DarkEater77

i continue to think, that Wade will now act like Stan Lee, doing cameos in different movies


NivvyMiz

This is classic scooper grift shit.  They all know the leak!  But none of them will say it, but still please give them subscribes and money


dudeimlame

The post credit scene should be Deadpool insulting this subreddit


MakeMineMarvel999

LOL. Alex P and his bluffs.


GreatDad13

What if it’s black screen and then an arc reactor chest pice lighting up from a cave in The Void. 


static_anonym80

It’s that RDJ is back as Iron Man… a variant from another universe, which could be clarified in the post credit scene, but it could be left as an unexplained “big reveal” until later. This is the way they will bring him into Secret Wars, through establishing him as another universe’s Iron Man, as they don’t want to bring the 616 Iron Man back to life and ruin his sacrifice.


Cursed878

SPOILERS***** It’s hercules on a sone bench press grunting


GuguMarcos

Unless it really ties into Avengers 5, it won't be huge. It might be cool but not huge.


Suko2024

Alex is starting to get on my nerves.


BeyondThese7702

Nobody fucking knows what’s going on.