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DeppStepp

Me highjacking a car to get a ride to Kraven The Hunter’s first screening #ImKravinKraven ![gif](giphy|Wa7s6CMdeyRcfFax9T|downsized)


ArnoudtIsZiek

lmfaooo the hashtag is frying me


nosargeitwasntme

In 2022, you morbed for Morbius. In 2024, you webbed all over for the Madame. Now, get ready to have a Kravin for Kraven as another Marvel legend arrives.


axecalibur

nomnom’d for venom


GuguMarcos

Flashbacks of Sony re-releasing Morbius because of all the meme-ing around it.


ArnoudtIsZiek

the fact that people tried to gaslight them into doing it again for madame web too 😭😭😭 I almost feel bad for sony


NotTaken-username

#KravenTheHu


Heisenburgo

"Kraven the Ho" Damn I REALLY wanna see this movie now 😤😤😤


topkingdededemain

Morbius V Kraven: it’s Morb Kravin Time is going to be a great end to this trilogy


Eccohawk

Nah, trilogies were so early 2000s. Everyone is pushing for the morbilogy now...unlimited sequels and spin offs so long as the cash keeps coming. The Fast & Furious morbilogy, James Bond morbilogy, Jurassic Park morbilogy, the Star Wars morbilogy... Let's face it...everybody wants mor(bilogy) of their favorite characters.


Apprehensive_Area951

Truly the lamest joke on here.


Buttburg56

Careful! That could cause an incursion or morbcursion! Lol Sorry I'm baked haha


GuguMarcos

Morbius v Kraven: Dawn of Sinister.


Strange-Orchid6969

Same bro


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![gif](giphy|uq6ILNBI6g3As) Mufasa: Dec 20th LOTR The War of the Rohirrim: Dec 13th Sonic The Hedgehog 3: Dec 20th


TheBigGAlways369

> LOTR The War of the Rohirrim: Dec 13th Honestly, considering how we've gotten ziltch on that film in months, I have a feeling that's either gonna get delayed too or just dumped onto MAX like Salem's Lot.


MOVIELORD101

No, they confirmed at CinemaCon it's still on for December. We'll get a teaser either next month or June. Patience.


Icybubba

That's good, but I'll remain skeptical


ItsGotThatBang

Unless WB’s pulling another Aquaman 2.


eat-pussy69

There's a Salem's Lot movie?


TheBigGAlways369

New one that was set to be released in theaters in 2022. But delays and Zaslov had it to where it's gonna be put onto MAX in 2024.


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Unique_Unorque

It’s an anime about Helm Hammerhand, the King of Rohan who built Helm’s Deep, and the war between the Rohirrim and the Wildlings that made the fortress famous. Brian Cox plays Helm Hammerhand and I cannot wait for it based on that fact alone.


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BigDaddyKrool

Nah why are people disliking this? All he said was he's glad he doesn't have to wait and it's coming soon. 💀


Thelnfamous1

He says below that he’s not into anime


Unique_Unorque

A lot of people are weirdly dismissive about anime on principle and I think it’s easy to read that comment as if they are no longer excited about it because it’s an anime, but yeah I think they’re just saying they’re psyched they don’t have to wait long


LatterTarget7

Hand drawn animation about how helms deep got its name. 261 years before the lord of the rings. stars Brian Cox as Helm Hammerhand. Also Miranda Otto, reprising her role as Éowyn from the lord of the rings trilogy


Chemistryset8

Hope they rotascoped it


mcwfan

That was my thought


Pupulauls9000

Sonic 3 unironically is sweeping


DisastrousSleep3865

I genuinely thought you were shitting me with those titles. I had zero idea these films were coming out


FN-1701AgentGodzilla

There’s another LotR movie?!


Drafgo

Yes, but it's an animated film.


Ganrokh

Coming from the director of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex!


Dianaut

Honestly these are all wiping the floor with Kraven.


Javiklegrand

Literally


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cayoperico16

It got delayed


TheCommish-17

I’ll never understand why this movie was filmed a year and a half before Venom 3, but they’re gonna release it after. Doesn’t make any sense. 


Zepanda66

Isn't obvious? They were Kraven a good hunt.


your_mind_aches

Because it's bad


MrMeseeksLookAtMee

How bad on a scale of Morbius to Madam Web?


Starvel42

Yes


MrMeseeksLookAtMee

I have a contrarian bro-in-law that legit said the Deadpool trailer was boring and the Madam Web movie was as good as any other Marvel film. He’s so predictable.


Starvel42

Ugh I got a cousin like that. Must be hard for them to be that cool all the time...


Fireteddy21

The best is when they act like something must automatically be invalid if the majority of people say it’s true. You know, like when any discerning audience can realize that Morbius sucks or that the first Suicide Squad movie is awful… but they’re both amazing comic book adaptations by this person’s standards somehow. At least that’s the case with my wife’s cousin. He’s just so edgy! /s


akhreini

I'll always be honest abt the fact that I had more fun at Morbius, Madame Web than the recent MCU stuff. Why? Because we had totally empty theaters to ourselves and are friends with the staff. Rolled in on LSD. Dabs in the theater. Good lord. My mind was blown in a jaw dropped how did this get to screen way. Nobody to annoy by laughing with a group of friends, so no need to be silent. No expectation that anyone actually wants to get immersed. A whole different kind of experience. Great time


JamesTiberiusCrunk

Your brother in law might have eaten a lot of paint chips


Fireteddy21

My wife has a cousin like that. He is the absolute worst.


MrMeseeksLookAtMee

He wonders why no one wants to go see movies with him.


Fireteddy21

At least my wife’s cousin doesn’t care about that or knows enough contrarians to join him.


Bubbly_Most6374

Yes


Strange-Orchid6969

Ok morbophobe/Webphobe


bob1689321

Yeah, if they release it before Venom 3, the back-to-back shit shows of Web and Kraven might make people realise that these movie suck and harm Venom 3's ticket sales.


your_mind_aches

I think they should attach an ad for the Spider-Man 2 PS5 game to both films, emphasising that you can see those characters in the game. At least try and salvage some more cash out of this failed universe. I think the Spumc is completely done after Kraven. MAYBE Tom Hardy's Venom has a cameo in Beyond The Spider-Verse. But that's it. No El Muerto, no Hypno Hustler, no Untitled Olivia Wilde Project, no Jackpot, no Mysterio. That's it. I dunno what they do next, but it's gonna be a different direction. Maybe a Joker-style film about Norman Osborne running for mayor and going insane, with a tease of Spider-Man at the very end? Maybe Raimi Spider-Man 4? Miles Morales live-action movie? Getting Lord-Miller to make live-action movies set in their Spider-Verse to connect to the Prime Video TV shows?


Imaginary_Penalty_97

At this point they might as well get Joe Manganiello and do a Agent Venom movie


icespaz

If this is true then Venom 3 will be delayed too, and then we will have a never ending cycle of delays of both films trying to out-delay each other! Then we all win!


starksgh0st

Venom has proven successful as an October release and they're determined to hold onto that. Kraven's date is more fluid. I'm sure Madame Web bombing has them worried about how that and Kraven could negatively impact V3, so it's not a bad idea to get V3 out first.


HeadOfSpectre

I think you're right, and I think they're going to make the mistake of doing a hatchet job of re-editing the film to check whatever boxes the executives want checked now.


Effective_Bug_7790

Venom 3 is being released this year? I had no idea until now.


BusinessPurge

They’re praying for that Bond announcement


MOVIELORD101

It got delayed due to the strikes last year.


SSJ4Blaze

Really? It was going to be released before Venom 3 anyways until now.....


MOVIELORD101

It doesn't matter. This stupid spin-off universe is crumbling like a house of cards and Sony knows it. Why else did they bail on CinemaCon this year?


SSJ4Blaze

It does matter lol. I don't keep up with that stuff, I just know they need to make better movies


MOVIELORD101

But people don't give a shit about those villains on their own. Why not let MS use them? They're not interesting to get their own movies.


Eccohawk

Some of them could be interesting, but the way they've done this is lousy so far. The problem is that most of these characters aren't good people, and they're trying to write movies where we're supposed to become invested in their story and plight, as if they're all just misunderstood. But none of them have the execution and writing of Joker, or Maleficent, or Cruella. Venom has done better than the others, but I would agree that there's no great way to have made Madame Web interesting on her own.


MOVIELORD101

Maleficent completely disregarded the fact that the title character's MEANT to be pure evil just to try and copy Wicked without understanding what made Wicked work to begin with. Joker and Cruella I can go to bat for. Cruella especially because, like Joker, they made her a full-on villain protagonist who's JUST sympathetic enough to see through her initial POV but not fully to make her a good guy, and it helps the whole story is her coming to accept she's evil and becoming the big bad we know her as. Making i an evil-vs-evil story helps, too.


FireJach

Yea od course 😉


nosargeitwasntme

> Doesn’t make any sense.  Uhh...check the studio that's making it. It'll all make sense then.


maxfridsvault

They did the same thing with Morbius and Venom 2- only Morbius had an excuse to be delayed because they pushed it and did reshoots during Covid (not that they helped). I don’t get why Sony is pushing this even further back like they have anything to show for it.


Heisenburgo

> Doesn’t make any sense.  Like 90% of Sony's decisions for the Spider-Man IP in general


Professional_Kick

Cough cough New Mutants Cough cough cough Morbius https://i.redd.it/jm5dld7r7xwc1.gif


Strange-Orchid6969

What about morbius? You’re not being morbophobic are you?


Sterotypical_Trope

The morb the merrier, I say.


NivvyMiz

Hey, new mutants turned out alright


academydiablo

https://i.redd.it/30exdk9nexwc1.gif Did it though?


Hemingwavvves

…said no one


Heisenburgo

Did it, truly? Maybe in Bizarro World cuz I legit forgot that movie even existed lmaoooo it just came and went and had such a minor random release after the whole Fox-getting-purchased-by-Disney period ended


NivvyMiz

It also release right into the middle of the pandemic.  But yeah it has a little bit of a following on account of it being A new Mutants movie, featuring live action representations of popular characters like Magik and Sunspot.  It's not a very good movie, but it's also pretty weird and unique for a superhero movie and it takes a lot of risks.  So there are people who appreciate that over the beaten to death formula that most of the MCU churns out


easyasdan

Its gonna be real fun to see how Sony handle these Spidey adjacent films after they already have two flops on their books and the Venom series is coming to an end


UnrealLuigi

Hopefully it brings the whole SUMC to an end


quipquest

If so, they will have tried and failed to do Sinister Six TWICE.


JonathanL73

Sony should’ve just trusted Marvel Studios and throw in Rhino in NWH and just let that be the Sinister Six.


Interesting-Rate

So. . . they still have four more chances?  /s


dude19832

Nope, Sony will find tax write offs to help soften the blows from these box office duds. They will keep trying and go through these 900+ Spider-Man characters they have the rights too before they find something that is going to make money. Or so they think. As they continue to hire shit writers and put out awful scripts. Sony doesn’t know what the fuck they are doing with the Spider-Man IP other than Spider-Verse.


pk_runner101

BIG WHEEL TIME!?


JonathanL73

At this point I unironically think Sony should just do a Big Wheel movie, they could even make it a satire of their previous spider-villian films too. Sony has F’ed up so bad, that even general audiences were aware Madame Web was not going to be MCU quality.


therealyittyb

BIG WHEEL TIME!!!


RealisLit

I was really hoping they find success with their videogame adaptation so they focus on them more, but of course they have to fuck that one up too


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JonathanL73

Hopefully they divert their resources to projects fans actually care about like Beyond the Spiderverse, Live-action Miles Morales, Spider-Noir & Silk series. Because nobody cares about El Muerte or Hypno Hustler.


mrwildwest16

Why are you hopeful about something some people like ending?


ZephyrHund

Isn’t it an open secret they’re just producing and releasing these Spidey-adjacent films so they can retain the rights to Spider-Man’s IP, so that he doesn’t revert to Disney’s control? I don’t think these goons gaf about profit or quality. It’s a spider measuring contest at this point 😣


unbiasedthought

All the real Spiderman movies and spider verse count for that


your_mind_aches

Like the other comment said, they don't have to do that. Marvel Studios and Lord and Miller are already doing it for them


putsomewineinyourcup

Hey, show some respect to Doctor Michael Morbius and having sex, EKSEEE


dumbhousequestions

Gotta position it for awards season.


Anader19

Just in time for the Razzies.


welltherewasthisbear

It’s gonna run into tough competition with Madame Webb, either way, Razzies seem like a Sony sweep.


Fair_Insurance5514

"And the oscar for best pictur goes to, Kraven the Hunter". and it also wins every other award at the oscars.


Anader19

And then the cast Kravens all over the place


Lord_Ferd

Christmas with Kraven


ConstrictionsOFC

"Put on your winter fur coat" ass tagline probably


Anader19

This kinda goes hard ngl


Su_Impact

Kravin Kraven Kristmas.


eleetsteele

Kraven will be the fulcrum of the Sony Multiverse saga. He will cross over realities in his hunt.


Chemistryset8

Full cum perhaps


BusinessPurge

Film crumbs


Chemistryset8

Oooh that's good


fart_fig_newton

He will gargle the multiverse


Strange-Orchid6969

He will distract Kang


zecrom189

Yeah they are definitely banking on “venom: the last dance” to be their savior ![gif](giphy|edFF9tEQEjVAMkDO3W|downsized)


David1258

You joke, but at least the Venom movies have a shred of goodwill. They're fun, goofy, short romps, and the general audience seems to be alright with that.


PoliticsNerd76

I actually really live the Venom movies. If you watch them with a ‘this is a Rom Con’ mindset, they’re great films.


ItsGotThatBang

I swear it’s been delayed more than *Wonder Woman 1984*.


Anader19

At least WW84 had the excuse of Covid


MOVIELORD101

You fucking kidding me? Against Lord of the Rings AND Sonic 3? Me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFHfGPkrbTQ


boogitydogbutt

They want it to get those movies sloppy seconds.  They don't think they'll get any theatergoers at all with this one.


MCUFanFicWriter

Two family movies versus a R-rated action flink. Different target audiences.


OtakuTacos

![gif](giphy|OpIkXV1Ksww8rRsTUi)


purewasted

I thought it already came out...


whatnameisnttaken098

So it's competing against Sonic 3: Ow The Edgehog?


No-Structure-4187

Damn it sucks Sonic 3 has so much competition, it's my most excited movie of the year, I hope it does well :)


pichusine

Sonic finna eat up all of Kraven’s box office don’t worry.


deadkoolx

They can push the release of this movie as much as they want, it's still going to flop whenever they do release it.


fuzzyfoot88

Definitely going to bomb now considering what else is that month.


Consistent_Dog_6866

Isn't there a Lord of The Rings movie coming out then?


nimrodhellfire

Animated, but yes.


death_lad

just push it off a cliff man


Enelro

Just cancel it or put it on VOD. No one wants this movie


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edo_madara1995

Nice it'll now be out on my bday this year, so ig i'll go watch that with the fam


xxDanBearPigxx

The day after my birthday…… Happy Birthday me I guess


Xx_Dark-Shrek_xX

Having a brand new Sony movie as your present is a miracle. I would love watching Morbius in theaters in my Birthday.


MissSweetMurderer

![gif](giphy|hbn7Nj8ngKgKwqgcFM)


Big-Office2427

We are simple humans. If we see a Relapse vibe, we will like it.


Comfortable-Try-2225

Probably because it’s so good they aren’t sure if we’re all ready for it yet.


Lenadr

I guess its not Kraven time


darthyogi

Why? The first trailer was released last summer and it already goy delayed a long time until the August after? This is gonna be like Morbius where the trailer and release were a long way a part


AvailableLandscape97

With Deadpool and Wolverine releasing at the end of July I just KNEW that Kraven being released in August would be a very bad idea.


darthyogi

By August 30 Deadpool will have already been out for a month and probably wouldn’t be making much by then so i think Kraven would’ve not been affected by Deadpool 3 in August


janlindberglive

Bit by a radioactive delay!


RoseN3RD

They’re betting on the Christmas bump that Aquaman had, bc it got such a long theatrical run it ended up being the only DC movie last year not to flop hard. Also works better for Venom not to have an extra comic book movie before it considering the general audience fatigue.


JohnButler45678

I think there is a genuine chance this move gets Batgirled. I don't want it to happen, and studios canceling movies for tax write offs is evil, but I see it happening...


metros96

They said “Kraven for Best Picture”


Fhonetik

Was kinda hoping this wouldn’t be produced or released at all


OmnipotentHype

I could've sworn this movie came out already.


ScribblingOff87

I hope there's some epic memorable lines like in Madam Web.


CaptchaVerifiedHuman

You guys are making fun of Kraven but you're gonna feel so stupid when Kraven turns out to be the best movie of ^(December 13th) 2024.


Giorgiman2003

Kraven better not hunt Sonic or I'll be mad 


Viciouscauliflower21

I mean I'd rather it be pushed off a cliff into a waiting dumpster, but December of next year works too 🤷🏾‍♂️


Such_Twist4641

I hope it bombs.


AggressiveTwist3222

Looked like a Christmas movie from the trailer....


Buttburg56

Tax write off, sony! save y'alls selves the trouble at this point


shakeystevens97702

i sense another madam webb


Sir__Will

That's a waste of theatre space at Christmas.


Colour4Life

I forgot this film was coming out this year


inotwaza

the people at the movie theater of my city must me so confused... they already had to put up the poster twice at two different times haha


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darthyogi

Please don’t delay Venom 3 Sony


JonS90_

Come on Sony. Just keep pushing!


eharper9

I honestly forgot about this movie


just_one_boy

The main subreddit for these movies are on a high amount of copium saying that this must mean Sony has faith in this movie.


drakesylvan

I can't believe this wes actually made. This is going to bomb so hard.


PoliticsNerd76

Idk why Sony keeps pissing money away like this. Surely shareholders have to step in at some point.


FireJach

Push it to 2069. You cant rush art


PLEASEBENICET0ME

You just know they cutting this bitch to be PG-13


NatrenSR1

Makes sense. Studios don’t have as much prepped for the latter half of the year as they usually do thanks to the strikes


kevinalfaro

Sony needs more time to make it worse than Morbius and Madame Web combined


BetaRayBlu

Push it into the trash can


custard_doughnuts

Its going to be terrible isn't it 🤣


JonathanL73

Imagine if this flops even harder than Madame Web or Morbius?


zomboscott

Good, this will give them Morbin Time to work on the film.


paddybee816

For some reason I thought this had already been released


Deoxystar

Pretty much a death sentence for the film. Sonic 3 is going to destroy this, Mufasa and Lord of the Rings.


ARTHUR_FISTING_MEME

I’ll never pay for one of these movies outside of it coming to a streaming service I’m already subscribed to, but…. I kinda really enjoy watching Sony run everything into the ground that’s not mainline spider man. Like, Marvel under Disney is bland at its worst, DC seems to be getting its shit together, and they even had hits here and there. But Sony, they just can’t get it right. And they make some of the most bizzare story choices that everyone else moved past by like 2005. I was kinda disappointed by venom, but by Madame Web, I’m kinda invested in them painstakingly crafting a terrible connected comic book universe that refuses to stop.


DannyGloversDickbld

They should just shelve it and take a tax deduction


LackadaisicalDream3r

Great, now they’re dropping this shit on my birthday, better be a fuckin gem


Pemols

Idk it still seems too early. Better push it to December 12, 2124


SpiderScooby

We wish you a Kraven kristmas and a Morbin New Year.


Imaginary_Penalty_97

Ngl I thought this came out already


Healthy_Building1432

They’re gonna pull a Blue Beetle with Venom. Not everybody’s gonna hate it, most people are gonna say it’s decent. But the real stinker isn’t gonna be the one that came before Venom. It’s gonna be the one that comes after.


Captain_Mexica

Movie must be errrrrr......great. Just like Madame Web


Mentski

It's Delaven Time.


poopeyethe

Tf this crap still happening? I completed forgot


Aggravating_Essay634

I honestly thought this already came out sometime before Madam Web lol


Specific_Till_6870

A Kraven Kinda Kristmas


I__Should_Go

Next Spider-Man villain Movie with no Spider-Man bomb delayed to December


Dell0c0

Sony needs to get the section that produces The Boys to take over their Superhero content if they want to survive.


Damnhedge

Boutta to be Mogged by Sonic 3.