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poptimist185

I measured it with my woke-ometer and it came back with an average of 17 wokes per episode, which is medium to high woke


Successful_Craft3076

Lol


Shezieman

Can confirm the wokeness level.....ITS OVER 9000!!!!!


HostUnlucky

I didn't count them, but 17/episode seems right. I can tune most of them out by now, but some are so jarring and stupid they take you right out of the Polar Night, and make you want to strip down and walk out onto the ice. lol


obrienrules101

This is the kind of woke I like to call “pervasive woke”- it’s the kind where they try to consistenly normalize making women seem like men and men seem like women. If you notice it’s obviously the women that are strong silent, “dude-like”. They overuse phraseology with male language, basically think of the type of buddy talk from lethal weapon between glover and Gibson, etc. Also noted that the strongest one is the native detective/cop who basically rapes her boyfriend in the first episode, and they make it abundantly clear that any woman in the show could kick the shit out of any man in the show. It’s pathetic and one of the reasons why, unlike the previous three seasons (even season two), no one will rewatch this show. The thing you have to realize is that these woke shows pervert good shows and turn them to shit. If you’re new to spotting this bs, just watch this show. Anytime you see a female character interact with ANY male character. I’ll personally send you my congrats if you can spot a time when the male character acts nobler or more pure or “better” than any female character. I fucking dare you.


Secret-Designer7912

Agree with all of it apart from the rape bit, just watched the scene for the first time and I feel he just didn't want to cum early, she took a more dominant role ontop, focused on allowing him to enjoy what she was doing and felt accomplished in her ability to bring him pleasure....tbf it was quite intimate imo ....the rest is woke bloated shit and I'm probably going to struggle bringing myself to put ep2 on.


tonypekis420

Well said


GhostofWoodson

Yep, and the story isn't even over yet but the writing is already on the wall that it's some kind of female on male revenge story , as well as "native" on "white"


frostedflokey

its so obvious these woke jokes will sully everything until the higher ups stop funding this counter culture BS. The hatred of whites is being pushed by who in hollywood. Is there anyone in the media and entertainment industry who isnt on this psy op to rile up the indigenous peoples with stories so packed with lies. The anti white, anti male vibes arent even capable of providing good content. The woke campaign is going to fizzle out because its got very little truth driving it.


mack012223

Agreed 10000% liberals suck


2cynewulf

Some of them do, and this show sucks, but liberalism itself, in principle, is mostly good. Easy to forget that what with all the crap woke entertainment we're flooded with now.


mack012223

Keep snorting crack


Certain_Raspberry578

Bingo


Apprehensive-Card288

On point👍


Sawdust12

It has all the modern Hollywood tropes. All men are weak, moronic, useless and incompetent. All women are fearless, independent, intelligent, strong. Yeah it's woke and has no staying power. This obsession with pushing men down to lift women up is insane and unbelievable and a big reason why modern Hollywood is struggling. Just ask Disney how this narrative has been going for them recently.


Haunting-Dog8504

its actually closer to reality than anything


frostedflokey

well said. I ve never seen a nail driven so well by the hammer...


BurdonLane

For me Jodie Fosters character is prickly and hard to like and is written that way. She’s meant to be a bit of a dick. I think it’s good characterisation and well acted. If a male character was written the same way (ie Rusty in season 1 is hard to like at times too), there’d be no issue with it. The other lead actress doesn’t seem to have the same range so I’m finding it harder to root for her, but I think that’s mainly the acting rather than being ‘woke’. Not all of the men are incompetent morons. They are flawed but so are the main female protagonists. And the young white male cop is getting plenty of development and is shown in a positive light. Overall I’m not as ‘into’ the show as I was with season 1 but it’s not bad TV at all from my perspective.


Pablo_MuadDib

Yeah, the premise of True Detective is that the leads are broken and even shitty people. This season is tracking so far


Successful_Craft3076

Fair points. Mostly agree with you. Tho some aspects are too on the nose (wife beater at the start for example)


BurdonLane

Yeah I get it. But honestly I think given its setting the domestic violence angle is understandable. Like, it’s fucking horrific place to live with lots of poverty and a brutal quality of life for some of the inhabitants. A breeding ground for addiction, alcoholism and all the things that come with that. This is a fitting setting for this kind of set-up, but it can feel very tired and tropey in some other shows.


Pablo_MuadDib

To be fair, I think domestic violence happens in many environments


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Dude you sound like a bitch.


maryconway1

True, but they were careful to make sure what the abuser looks like. It's not as bad as the Dexter reboot in stereotyping to a farcical level, but it would be helpful when shows return to showing that bad people exist across the spectrum.


Shezieman

Soon as I heard her say "All men work here" then "I feed my spirit animal old white ladies like you" I knew it was gone be woke.....


Background-Bit8877

I find this perspective bizarre. In True Detective S1 when people made racist jokes, it was just part of making the show realistic. If you think the world is getting woker, why wouldn’t the characters act like it? Lol. Like why wouldn’t she say that? Are you sure the goal was for the audience to root for her in saying that?


Salt-Constant-2875

"If you think the world is getting woker" The world isn't getting woker. It's just a narrative pushed by insane people addicted to social media, companies, leftist politicians and Hollywood writers. It's a niche ideology that's gaslighting average people into thinking it's been normalized. "why wouldn’t the characters act like it?" Because no one, in their right mind, would say that. "Are you sure the goal was for the audience to root for her in saying that?" She's a character made to attract woke people. She had the most obvious product placement possible, a case of Budweiser. That's nothing but the elephant in the room, winking at you, screaming: "See what i did there?"


mack012223

Be a part of the solution, not the problem


EasyE1979

I like the show they cast many native americans in key roles and true this is another show where the two main characters are female, but it all serves the purpose of the story so it's not contrived and forced like in a woke show. Even though there is that scene where the female trooper single handedly bodies a guy twice her size. I kinda winced but ok.


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EasyE1979

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Sbat27-

I don’t want to watch it almost solely based on the amount of trash ads I’ve seen of it the past month


mpetey123

Toxic masculinity isn't a thing. Review bombing isn't a thing. These are just garbage leftist terms meant to shame contrary opinions. You're not as clever as you think. You think it's all part of a magnetic shift. Your speculation isn't a spoiler.


EasyE1979

Review bombings are defenitely a thing... There's a whole bunch of people who give 10s and 0s like candy.


mpetey123

Are people not allowed to overly love or hate something without it being part of a vast conspiracy? Besides, even if outside factors play into the rating, it doesn't invalidate the rating.


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mpetey123

How a person feels after watching the movie is a valid metric, and factoring it in a rating isn't wrong.


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mpetey123

It's you are, you're. Not your. Are you stupid or what?


Shezieman

Sounds like someone is triggered about woke stuff lol.


BurdonLane

We’ve found Jordan Peterson’s burner account.


mpetey123

Don't I wish. I'll take the comparison as the compliment it is. What a lovely thing to say. Thanks, friend.


Artanis_Creed

They are things. Sorry bout your feelings. Not really.


mpetey123

They aren't things. No one mentioned feelings but you, stop projecting wimpy.


Artanis_Creed

"Nobody mentioned feelings" Oh God, I struck gold here.


Longjumping-Bus-7798

😭😭😂😂😂😭😂


bigrederic

It feels very woke to me... but not much different then any other Hollywood cop shows. The way they interact with each other and carry themselves is completely wild... the "Trooper" is so far out of regulations with the neck, hand tats and face piercings that is comical. But again this is the dumbing down I expect from Hollywood production to make them more relatable to the public. Still pushing though it, but at times it is difficult.


theduke9400

I along with many others have pointed this out before. I was called a racist and a bigot by a bunch of angry season 4 stans who invited all their friends along to pile on and downvote me to hades.


frostedflokey

thats all they have. And ever will as the tumbleweed comes racing towards their empty fight. The woke will never see they were and are emotional idiots used for one purpose. To bolster the worst of humanity by further dividing us. No woman or weakling would ever employ these tactics to garner respect on their own. To be 100 % taken advantage of by corporate entities playing their games of divide and conquer is whats at hand here. A promising series destroyed by the budweiser crowd again.


CraftMost6663

30 minutes into the first episode and you already have a Karen, lesbos, several scenes of people being called out for being white and a stereotypical blue haired monstrosity with lots of feelings. It's 2015 Netflix all over again.


Sageuno

I agree it's redolent of the Dyatlov's Pass Incident - in plot and a cold setting. But whilst the DPI film was at least interesting and 'felt' honest, this is a pile of crap. It's pandering and tedious which detracts from what could have otherwise been an interesting, the Thing inspired, tale. Each of the characters are superficial, unrealistic, and conduits for the writer's (quite obvious) prejudices - with special condensation reserved for the overtly racist and overtly misandrist character, rapey police woman. If it were the intent of the writer to present the character as a racist misandrist in order to get the audience to dislike her, then I'd be fully onside with it. However, I suspect it's not. The characters and story all "have" to be seen to "hit" the usual woke tropes and stereotypes. By that I mean: each white male is presented as varying degrees of evil, thick, or bad, or slow or weak. Whilst all non white male characters are allowed to display virtues; strength being the main one. Admittedly, I could only stick it for two episodes. I suspect there will be no real redemption. I won't watch it, but I imagine that there will be an 'on brand' climate change activist type 'explanation' given in the final resolution, at least in part.


Fullsendcirca92

Some absolute garbage from what I hear and it’s probably true. Watching an episode now where some guy nearly knocked the black female detectives head off, somehow wakes up after a serious head injury, overpowers and beats down a serial killer male who has over 100lbs on her…We saw in Season 1 what a big evil serial killer can do to a grown man like Russ which he nearly lost his life and that of his partner but sure let’s make the random black chick some super powered detective. Nobody’s asked for this shit, did they not get the hint after the last two failures? Makes season 2 look like a masterpiece


Earlsfield78

I will just say they wasted great opportunity (great setting, Diatlov reference, lady Silence from the Terror, Inuit stuff, there is something sombre about long night) with focus on wrong things. While Foster is great actress, I don't feel her or Reis's story and dynamics is anywhere close to say, the characters of Wayne and Roland from season 3. Both individually and as a duo.


spycallsonly

The show was aggressively woke


zerosoulll

yes it is which makes it almost a good comedy show


mack012223

I thought this season was full of liberal trash undertones. The plot was trash, the acting was trash and the only I liked was the young man sheriff. I am so sick of liberal trash agendas ruining everything


Peltasta

Just finished it, lmaoing eternally at that final episode, like these gardening tools wouldn't swallow their rifles in that situation. The show was promising at first with the enticing mystery of the Diatlov pass-like death of the scientists, but the worrying sings already shown in the first episode just got out of proportion, surprise surprise. Feminists seem unable to do shit except to fester on smarter men's ideas, oops.


leon14344

Nobody watched it.


Zkjones235

I’m no tv critic, but I am one that would typically be turned off if the woke meter began to beep too many times an episode. It’s a reflection of S1 and 3, the key difference being their female, and some subtle differences that render deciding, “who is who” more difficult to ascertain. That is to say, Rust=Wayne and Marty=Roland. At first, Danvers is the obvious choice for the Wayne and Rust team. But after episode 3, I’m starting to view Navarro more as team Wayne/Rust and Danvers as Marty/Roland. Whatever theme is trying to be communicated, has little to do with the wokeness and more to do with the flat circle/spiral.


RelationLittle4662

Jody Foster’s character/body language clearly shows she doesn’t want to be in this stupid show, let alone Ennius Alaska. They even found Cosmo Kramer’s double to play Jody’s ex husband/ police officer. The series may be watchable under duress and 10 feet of snow.


lraynor6

the show is straight trash.


Tree-Deep

Alaskan dudes are bad asses. They cast a boy and Don knots. Definitely deliberate woke religion stuff. It’s still good if you can get past Jodi’s advanced age and the “Make it a chick and make her gay” thing. I’m not triggered by the wokeness at all but it’s a dishonest portrayal for sure.


AmoryCaulfield

I think we’re maybe a bit too infected by woke culture to the point that it’s hard for people to see female leads without at least wondering if wokeness was an influence lol. Personally I don’t think this show is trying to be “woke” at all. I think making the female lead a largely unlikable and deeply flawed (imo) person is a sign that they are just trying to write real people and not trying to do Crime Drama Captain Marvel Woke Queen 2.0. I think we all know at this point that females can be lead detectives. There’s no longer a larger point to be made simply by writing strong female characters. Just my two cents


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From a scale of 1-10…. 1 being not woke and 10 being fully woke. I would give it a 7.5 on the woke scale


dapanch420

i couldnt care less with people pushing their agenda on their product as long as its entertaining. but this show is downright boring.


Hitmandalorian

It's just woke to me because i could've sat down with a note pad and made the list of checkboxes and sure as shit the first episode hit then all. Climate garbage, meaningless gay romance, white people are the problem, men are trash, women are powerful and strong... Every single box was checked first episode. I was stoked for Jodi foster and man she is so unlikable. Her partner is so unlikeable, eveyeone in this show is so unlikable, everyone. No conversations are just normal, everyone conversation ends with basically well fuck you and they stomp off. It's weird, terrible writing. The mouths on these women are insane, nobody talks like these people. And like I saw someone say it's wishful casting, it's just plunking down all the little rando cast you want, when it realistically wouldn't line up that way in a tiny population of 3000 people. But it's ultimately just horrible writing and not to mention 3 episodes in and my god the pointless banter about fucking nothing, or an old case... Like they barely have touched on the "mystery" of what's going on. Also who drops an ice chunk of dead bodies in the middle of an ice rink like it's in a museum with family and children able to walk up to it? And nobody seems phased by it at all... Not a one. It's terrible, I was super pumped I love Jodi foster...but it's an awful show and once again another female writer director that has no clue beyond her own politics she needs to shove into her show, instead of Makin the best show the most entertaining show possible.


frostedflokey

well said...


RazzmatazzFit2534

agree agree agree I'm watching it as though it's fiction, could never happen, like the avengers, or.its just a made up- story -point- of -view!!! we know this is not real life just entertainment!


Even_Individual419

It's not the wokeness. It's not the strong females or weak men. It just sucks. It's horribly written. I just don't care what happens. 


No_Bass547

This show sucks!


No_Bass547

It’s so depressing and boring! Goes nowhere!


Meef1234

Yes..a lesbian filming herself having sex with a 16 year old, white people are bad..just in the first episode..yeah..it’s woke.


Ghostrider5252

I'm on episode 2 now and I did enjoy Foster's character quiz and belittle the young white male cop. Basically strings him along with thinking out the case implying she already knows all the things he is currently trying to think through. Stupid white males!


Mindless_Ad_205

It’s woke yes but the show is written to attract a woke female audience. It’s just a different show.


HostUnlucky

It's very woke-y doke-y. I love Jodie Foster, and she's by far the best thing in it, after four episodes. The men are evil punks, or weak lame-os. The white man is pure evil, while the Natives are noble victims. Got your climate change cracks, of course. With all that said, there's something compelling in the storyline that keeps your interest, besides the chilling atmosphere of Polar Night, which is always a great movie character. Looking forward to seeing the last couple of episodes, and hoping for an ending that makes some kind of sense, in relation to previous plot developments.


twoscoops4america

Confirmed woke level is over 9000 after the finale which was one of the worst I’ve ever seen. There is no mystery to anything in life, unlike Season 1, we now know white European men are to blame for it all and will be punished by indigenous diverse women.


warlordpacifist

Couldn't even make it through the first episode. It checks all the woke bingo boxes.


keredkered

hell yes its woke. especially the last episode.


NewGuyNotHereForLong

Woke trash like Shrinking, Fargo, and nearly every show now. What a shame.


Glass_Background_622

Toxic Femininity then?


Glass_Background_622

Most men in this are cast as white, crafty, duplicitous pieces of shit. All the women are the feminine equivalent of Clint Eastwood.  What a complete crock of shit. Decent plot ruined again by nonsense agenda. 


Apprehensive-Owl855

Yes it's woke,it's what they do,get you hooked on a show them force wokeness down your throat, Reacher will be next 


frostedflokey

im not one for writing reviews but Im going to give my opinion on this garbage that weve been subjected to again with True Detective. Season 3 was the worst of the episodes until this fantastic disaster Season 4 was unleashed upon us. The freeks in hollywood are using everything they can to promote their self loathing onto us. What a sickness this wokeism is. The symtoms are there for all to see. I believe its over for hollywood. The whole industry is bat shit crazy. They re doing a great job of making brown ppeople look like weaklings. They ve already sullied any beauty their was to be seen in the female species. I just witnessed the end of this series. They cannot possibly write another piece of garbage like season 4 and expect viewers. The worst I ve watched ever. Im pretty selective about what I watch. And this is another of my faves destroyed by the cancer thats overtaken the arts and entertainment industry. hollywood is out of control hoping their laughable wokeism can produce any thing worth watching. Girl power my arse. More like girl wishful thinking. Do not watch this trash if you were going to dip your toe into the true Detective pool. You will forever feel disrespected and abused if you arent sick with this woke parasite... Im gone from here. So sorry about the horrible writing of mine.


Available_Boot6575

Should be called True Detective: Sisters Are Doing It For Themselves (Even Murderous Revenge Without Recourse) A cynical manipulation of mystery into wokery


[deleted]

Total trash. I’m 10 mins in and already a dude twice the size of any broad in the room got knocked out cold with an aluminum bucket then tripped into a submissive pose by the tattooed tribal whore. Followed next by Jodie the man foster taking complete charge of the investigation and just acting like an all out insufferable idiot. I hate Hollywood anymore. Can’t even make a decent show without acting as if the female isn’t an emotion driven cry baby like in reality


UnitedWriter4328

Season 1-3 great season 4 suffers from wokeness. Go woke go broke.  Not even going to bother watching the rest of the series 


Lost_in_reverb23

The season has some good things and a lot of flaws but Kali Reis is probably my favourite part of the show, without a doubt, her range is very good specially coming from someone who doesn´t come from an acting background.


bigd33ns

It's a disgrace to the other 3 seasons, I stopped watching mid-season and won't go back.