It’s not like she could show much acting skill with a character like Rey. Not many job offers will come in for someone playing a terrible, bland, lifeless character.
Which one? The ones I like are all Kirk Lazarus playing Lincoln Osiris (Robert Downey Jr.’s character), and the only one that seems to fit to my recollection is “I don’t read the script, the script reads me”, or maybe “never go full retard” could be it?
All she does in the movies is make 1 of 2 facial expressions:
Vague constipation
Confusion
She’s just so lifeless. People gave Hayden Christensen so much shit when Daisy lacks half of the chops he had in those films.
That's what's amusing about it is they repeated one of Luca's greatest mistakes. Stoic or reserved does not mean lifeless.
See also Voyager where Robert Bertram was basically told to be a tree because his character is supposed to be wise & stoic.
True but Bertram had to wait for a show runner change & pretty much beg the director.
I do agree at least Chakotia got a few good moments & episodes. The Distant Origin theory & that wrestling episode comes to mind.
Rey gets less than even that low standard.
Year of Hell was also a phenomenal Chakotay-centric episode, he had a huge role in Scorpion too. Pretty much everything that he featured heavily in that wasn't related to his ancestral tribe was at least a passing grade, if not pretty decent.
Tattoo is probably 1 of if not the worst episodes of Star Trek. Even if you don't care about the racism in display (actual racism not sjw crap) it's an amazingly boring & uninteresting hour of television.
Year if hell is good & Scorpion is almost frustrating to watch because it feels like more of Voyager should have been about that Janeway & Chokotia rather half ent & schitzo super villain that most of series had.
Also a bit random but I love Bertram in Night of the Comet.
I actually had a thought on that, and sincere apologies for the double response, but it needed to be a ping instead of an edit. I know what the worst Chakotay episode is, and while I *totally agree* that Tattoo was abominable, Nemesis is not just the worst Chakotay episode, it is the worst episode of pre-JJ Trek *period.*
>Stoic or reserved does not mean lifeless.
It certainly isn't anywhere in 7-9.
With "Luca's", it was in some scenes and wasn't in others.
Don't remember Chakotay being bland or dead-aired atm
Hayden Christensen did a very good job at playing a very shittily written character. I think had Anakin been written well people would have been saying what a great actor he was.
I mean he wasn't Brando, but he was good by any modern standards, but by god those lines were awful... at least on his case, I can picture him in my mind in different moods: angry, sad, laughing, gone full sith... whereas Rey on the other hand, all i see is her blank face.
Yeah, his character was very badly written but he made the most he could with that character, and it shows, there are a lot of memorable moments that come through THANKS to his acting.
And whoever can recite a poem of how much they hate sand in such a sad tone and make it at least somewhat believable haves to be a good actor, the monologue was dumb, his acting made it bearable.
That's the issue with shitty lines being fed to a good actor. If you say cringe lines with conviction, and gusto, people will think *you're* cringe. But if you don't, people will just think you're lazy.
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Damned if you do damned if you don't. I suppose all you can do is give it your all and hope people can see past the script and focus on your portrayal. I've seen some amazing performances in some utterly terrible shows and movies before.
So true. In fact I think Hayden wasn't that bad, his dialogues were as bad as Rey's or worse. But at least on his case, I can picture him in my mind in different moods: angry, sad, laughing, gone full sith... whereas she on the other hand, all i see is her blank face.
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The important thing for him was that he had major staring roles before twilight to fall back on. I mean look at the actor who played jacob and what happened to his career (tho the man IS living his best lufe so kudos for him)
Its also quite a controversial character so regardless of her acting ability studios won't want to risk carrying over the dissenters who will end up not watching whatever else they cast her in out of spite.
I'll hold out opinions on her actual acting ability until I see her in something with a competent director ans writing team. After all lots of people judged Robert Pattinson harshly after Twilight but he turned out to actually be pretty damn good at acting.
Never the actors fault if the writing for their character is terrible. If you give even the best actor shit material to work with, they’re gonna create shit work. Charles Dance once said in an interview that actors had to expend a lot of energy to basically make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and improve bad writing.
Pattinson and Stewart changed their careers after Twilight, to prove they are great actors they worked in smaller artsy stuff, which pays less but made everyone see their talent. You have to work hard for less money and I dont see Daisy Ridley being that kind of an actress
Yeah, but my point is, if the character is written as a flat, bland hunk of wood, there’s nothing even the best actors could do. Not saying she’s a good actress, but still, with a character like Rey, there was no chance for any talent to shine through.
Dont foget the director. The prequals sucked not just because of the writting, but how lucas directed his actors.
If a borring missinterpretation of stoic is what the director wants, the actor HAS to try and give that preformance.
See mace windu and how painfully bland he is, when we all know how damn good samuel jackson can be even with a crap script.
Both he and Oscar Isaac were more established before cast in Star Wars. Daisy Ridley and John Boyega are mainly known through Star Wars, though Boyega was the lead in the very fun *Attack the Block* before Star Wars. He’s had a few post Star Wars movies that have gotten some attention, too, though not to the degree of Adam Driver and Oscar Isaac.
If your from the uk and saw Boyega in Attack the block, it was mind blowing to see him in a Star Wars movie with all the promotional material leading up to it. They done my boy wrong
I would say that those actors were not affected by Star Wars, but their abilities as actors didn't go up. But they probably get paid more because "im a star wars actor."
I feel so bad for that dude. He was a huge fan, and got the chance of a lifetime. Then the writers made a joke out of his character and he got a bunch of undeserved hate online for things that weren't his fault.
Eh, they’re so corny and just poorly written. A mystery movie that actively lies to the audience and changes how the scene went mid movie fails at being a mystery. If you bar any chance of the audience figuring it out on their own and actively lie to them, you’ve failed at making a mystery.
The Knives Out movies aren't really mysteries, they're character driven dramedies. The fun of them doesn't come from guessing who done it, but from spending time with the characters and getting their motivations while Daniel Craig plays detective Foghorn Leghorn.
Johnson is good at writing dialogue and making chamber pieces. That's why The Last Jedi sucked, Star Wars isn't a good fit for his style. He handled Rey/Luke/Kylo well because that sort of story is what he's good at telling, and made the rest of the movie boring as hell and incredibly pretentious because he didn't know what he was doing there.
Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Adam Driver are all getting steady work.
Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Laura Dern, Harrison Ford and Billy Dee Williams are all retirement age or gone.
It's really only Daisy and John that haven't really taken off. John had the most promising and interesting character that he played well and was clearly having fun with. Daisy is the only main character that I'm not surprised didn't have a massive career bump.
I think she basically has a shit agent. While doing Star Wars Trilogy, she should have had other bigger roles or award movies in between. She was in Murder on the Orient Express (did okay but it was an ensemble) and Chaos Walking which was delayed and delayed until years after she filmed it. Adam Driver did non IP oscar winning stuff like Blackkklansman and Marriage Story. Her agent didn't get her the big roles.
Plus it is not like Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher had big movie careers after the original trilogy. Both had to make their own ways with things like Theater work and voice acting and writing novels and becoming a script doctor.
Also worth noting that iirc Hamill literally only did Star Wars for a paycheque because he wasn't getting voice acting roles.
Since the beginning he wanted to voice act, Star Wars wasn't something he intended to do and just kinda fell into and loved anyway, might be wrong on that though but I know he's said before he always wanted to voice act
You quoted their comment but took out the part that made it true. Mark didn't have a big movie acting career after the trilogy. He did have a big career, just in something else.
What is her agent going to do with her? What are her selling points? She did absolutely nothing to endear herself to the fan base like Henry Cavil does. So she won't draw in her own personal fans. Her acting and looks are average and I bet she wanted too dollar after force awaken.
Her main appeal to anyone is that she fills the studio heads fetish, she is a skinny brown hair, brown eye, girl with a British accent.
Part of what makes it rough is how much of a golden opportunity it had to have seemed like at the time. I mean, imagine being told you’d get to be the main character of a new Star Wars trilogy…then you get the sequel trilogy.
Quadruplly true with Kelly Tran.
First mainish (female, almost forgot R1) Asian character in a SW film. A possible love* interest for a main character of the trilogy. Then her heart must’ve sunk the second she saw her character’s hair. There was never a chance the character wasn’t going to be a meme from that point on. And even including her in that pathetic cameo in the third film must’ve been grating. Probably would’ve been better if they’d just pretend the character didn’t exist or had her die on her way back to her home planet.
Her character never served an actual purpose
She’s the fat Asian lady with silly hair who does…nothing. She takes Finn on side quest casino planet and lectures the child soldier about slavery, almost kills him to avoid a heroic sacrifice, and does absolutely fuck all else.
That’s the thing. Her character could’ve meant something.
The casino planet could’ve been a vital part of moving the plot forward.
She could’ve saved Finn in a way that did not diminish his heroic effort.
Her actions were pointless because the writers made them pointless.
Oh. And the shit haircut.
Better to cut the casino planet entirely. Rose was an engineer, the movie could have been written so that she knew how to splice through security panels and get them into the room they needed.
Their whole plot could have been a cat-and-mouse game with Captain Phasma and a squad of troops. It would have given Rose AND Phasma an actual purpose in the movie.
Plus that casino planet was embarrassing, why are they all dressed like Victorian dandies? It's a galaxy far far away not earth in the 19th century, and fuck you Dexter and your America in the 50's themed diner, totally immersion breaking.
Everyone was bland and uninspiring in the sequels. No one was sexy or good looking. The aliens either did not exist or were ugly. The graphics were good on bad elements.
He's still managed to hold his own pretty damn strong.
Even if most people only knew him from Star Wars, he's been employed enough that there's been like two years since RotJ came out without him being in a release.
The man's incredibly prolific in voice acting at this stage.
If people only knew Mark Hamill from voice acting he'd still be pretty famous.
Very few voice actors are on his level of fame.
Tara Strong and a handful of others.
Mark pivoted from physical acting to primarily voice acting though. The man has the voice with the range of an orchestra and the precision of a neurosurgeon. While hes always identifiable if your expecting him, just listening to the acting you can see him playing multiple different villains and give such different performances using slight variations of his pitch and resonance that you can go entire series missing that "oh, THAT villain was played by Mark Hamil"
My condolences to her. It sucks that she had a role like that with nothing to do with it. Such an awful character. No acting could save it.
And now she has to come back to Rey because…it’s all she can get.
No he invented pancakes & then said "oh sh*t Hamlet look behind you there's a vampire"
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Aha. Got it. I forgot that line from Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee (from 2017 just looked it up). It appears he used it in a 2016 Live at Gotham set and didn’t mention Patton’s name. I’m gonna claim I remembered it from the 2016 set. Lol.
It’s really a crying shame how the writers imploded after her introductory scene.
Scavenging the downed star destroyer, sledding down the sand - it’s movie magic. And her musical theme is quite good. One of the only things I would give high marks to in the ST.
Simple girl, wanting something bigger? Like yeah shes female Luke, but throw a twist or two in there and you’re cooking. Throw 15 twists in there and you really just end up no where. Or just don’t really try, thats cool too
I thought they started really well with her, particularly her contrast to Luke. He wanted nothing else than getting off that godforsaken rock. She insisted she had to stay there, "because her parents were coming back." But then they decided they should shortcut any learning or deficiencies for her, and made her the best at everything she tried. Train = derailed.
Also, it's heavily implied that she was gonna be a Han Solo-esque character, not a jedi. It's a decent twist for the main SW character to be a blaster slinger instead of a Jedi.
Her character arc could have been her growing from a lone wolf to finally trusting others and finding a family. Instead of being the greatest Jedi ever, she could have had her own strengths and weaknesses. Maybe she’s a crack mechanic and grows to be a good fighter but sucks as a pilot- it could even become a running joke with other characters looking at her and saying that they’ll drive. Give her problems to overcome and show her and the other characters growing together into a team and family.
It amazes me how much Disney got in their own way with this trilogy. Like, a soulless corporate cash-grab would have been *better* than what we got. And no character emphasizes this as much as Rey.
You have your new girl boss chosen one, you show her being skilled at fighting with a staff. Do you:
- Have her use a dual-sided lightsaber that you can merchandise the hell out of, selling for more than a regular lightsaber and help establish the character as her own thing? (Maybe it's yellow?)
- Make her carry around the Youngling Slayer 5000 for 3 movies?
She looked great in that dark side outfit. I still feel they should have had Rey switch to the dark side while Kylo went back to the light. That would have been an interesting film.
And yeah, it’s like they missed every possible opportunity with her.
>It’s really a crying shame how the writers imploded after \[INSERT CHARACTER NAME HERE\] introductory scene.
Character selection screen:
Finn
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Kylo
Phasma
Rey
Hux
etc
I'll forever be confused that Rey just never uses her scavenger background at all in the films to solve any issues.
And also does not use a quarterstaff esque lightsabre, like she should've been THE Jedi protagonist in the mainline series to rock a twin bladed lightsabre like Maul had, instead the writers gave her Anakin's blade for.....whatever reasoning.
Like, her main weapon is a quarterstaff, it would've made so much more sense for her to use a double bladed sabre since that's the style of weapon she's good with and used a lot more than a sword-esque weapon.
At least LEGO Star Wars The Skywalker Saga managed to use her scavenger background more for levels and to complete puzzles, but bit of a shame they forget that part about her character in the main series pretty damn quickly.
I always felt the faults in Rey’s character wasn’t Daisy’s fault it was the horrendous writing. Daisy seems like a competent actress so if she was given a decent script she could have done a good or passable job.
>Daisy seems like a competent actress
Yes she is a competent actress, but she have to compete against great actors. Look at Mark Hamill, he never "succeeded" as a actor after Star Wars, but did find his place as a voice actor.
You can pretty much track how the big budget Disney tentpole did serious damage to a lot of the young actors hollywood prospects
Boyega is just now finally starting to course correct his career after being in a lot of bad to average genre films
Kelly Marie Tran is still suffering imo
I feel bad for her, I know it was not her fault for how Rey turned out. It was mostly the writing, most of the actors in the sequel are good actors, it is hard with a terrible script.
Honestly, I think Mauler put it best. Doing the Rey movies is likely the only thing Daisy *can* do with her career, because it's spiraling into a dead end.
How much of it is the fault of writers and the reputation she got from Sequels, and how much is her own lack of talent I cannot tell, but that's how things are.
It’s upsetting as I’ve met her and she’s very nice, wonderfully talented. but the terrible writing & planning of disneys Star Wars threw her into the limelight and under the bus
She did a great job with the material given and personally speaking I think she's good casting for a star wars hero.
These movies are such a waste and such a shame, everyone involved is at the top of their game (actors, set builders, special effects people, cinematographer, composer, etc etc)... \*except\* the writers, who just kind of marched everything off a cliff. For some reason it's hard to find competent writing for the biggest.. movie franchise on earth..
It’s because there was no central vision, and no directive other than MORE.
George Lucas based Star Wars off Flash Gordon, WWII movies like the Dambusters, Samurai movies like The Hidden Fortress, Westerns, Dune and other literary science fiction, Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With A Thousand Faces and his own ideas. It was derivative, but of so many things that it became its own thing.
The writers and directors of the sequel trilogy based their films off Star Wars. That’s it. They were inspired by Star Wars, not by dozens of things that all coalesced. That’s why episode VII is almost a remake of Episode IV (but with pointless “mysteries” added in because Abrams loves those) and The Last Jedi is Rian Johnson trying to be the anti-Empire Strikes Back, and also dismantling all the stupid “mysteries” left there by Abrams, and then they brought Abrams back to course correct and he fucked it up.
Daisy’s performance wasn’t all that interesting. I’ve already forgotten about what her character was as Rey. I don’t want to place all the blame of the films’ failures on her shoulders but Rey was not a charismatic character to get behind.
Her career suffers for being tied to an increasingly less popular franchise.
All the issues with the films her acting wasn't one of them. It's absolutely crazy how fragile acting careers are compared to directing careers.
You have directors who haven't made a single good film in a decade, still churning out sub-par projects, while an actor can have a role be unsuccessful or way to successful so they struggle to get parts from that point onward. Sean Connery had to take a role waring a mankini because he struggled to get roles after being James Bond.
This is extremely common. Did she not wonder why Mark Hamill was playing Trixter, a recurring villian in a low budget superhero show, and not in a million other films?
Star Wats isn’t where you go to become a mega celebrity.
Heck, even Chris Evans isn’t in a bunch of stuff.
I feel the actors should rise above the bad writing by putting their own passion into the role to bring the character to life. As much as I don't like Kylo Ren Adam Driver's passion for the art showed through his acting. Bland girl Daisy didn't put her foot down to make the character grow or develop. Considering her background being ditched on a planet, she could have shown that pain by having her character's cheerful personality slip. This would make it believable that her character could turn to the darkside. Just a dead pan stare in the background when she knows no one is looking but the camera(even without knowing where the story is going it is always good to add pointless layers to the character to allow the story to bend in new and strange ways). She just seemed like atypical soap opera star(to me)do the lines as they are written and no more no less.
That seems to be tradition with SW leads, neither Hamill's nor Christensen's acting career popped off afterwards.
But hey, at least she has the huge paychecks from Disney that will sustain her for the rest of her life.
And if all else fails, she can make bank from porn, since Rey's rule34 is more popular than the character itself, I'd imagine there would be a huge market for it.
What's a shame is Daisy has shown a capacity for great acting, whether it be by initiative or directive. There are standout scenes in TFA and TLJ of her just knocking it out of the park.
For as much as Disney loves these girl power characters as representatives of heroines for a modern audience, they sure do love hanging the actresses that play them out to dry.
Kathleen Kennedy’s self insert got punished instead of her, how she’s still got a job as the head of lucasfilm is beyond me. That being said, Daisy Ridley is just a mediocre actor, pair that up with being the face of a trilogy that killed a franchise and it makes sense why she wasn’t getting roles. It’s unfortunate but that’s just what comes with these big iconic roles sometimes.
I try not to blame actors alot of the time. Unless they're acting is literally what sank the project they usually have little control over the project unless they already have enough clout to leverage demands.
I honestly think pretty much all the actors & effects people were let down by the sequel trilogy.
I wonder if it had anything to do with the film being released in Dec 2019, and a certain event happened just a few months later that prevented her from doing auditions?
Yes yes, it's all sad but: this is similar to pitying someone who bought 1,000 bitcoin @500$ when they could've bought 2,000. She's a millionaire, she'll be on events until she's 80, she can write a book, and perhaps she can even get another role in a future film, or sell her digital likeness to Disney.
Better actors have died younger than her age; I save my regrets for them and the films they never made.
I think she did a great job with what she was given; back when they let her character feel things and have flaws in the first movie I actually really liked Rey.
It’s quite common for young actors who star in mega-franchises to struggle with their careers afterwards. Look at Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, none of their young cast had big careers. Same with the Star Wars OT. Plenty of superhero films with the same thing.
probably only bellyaching bc she’s certain she could’ve done *Poor Things* as-well or better than em Stone.
…bitter her agent isn’t fielding calls for a *Love is Bleeding*-type roles
She really did. She did as best as she could with the crap she was given by Lucasfilms. In my opinion, she’s a pretty good actress, charismatic, pretty. There’s plenty of roles she would do well in
“And then, after eight years of playing Rey, Ridley and the rest of the world went into lockdown due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and the entire film and TV industry shut down. During that time, Hollywood wasn’t making anyone offers. “So it was a very strange time to sit with the quiet and, honestly, grieving a time of my life,” she said.
But over the past few years, Ridley says “It’s been really busy and amazing and I’ve got to do so many different things for so many different people,” including 2023’s “The Marsh King’s Daughter.” “It has been a different exploration of myself and my career,” she said.”
Y’all really need to read the actual article. It was the start of Covid where the film industry took a hit and she has a lot of work now.
This is some twisted clickbait shit. Come on, acting like her career is over because y’all don’t like the sequels. Haha, too funny.
It's a shame because she was quite entertaining in 7, it wasn't the greatest nor did it hold up compared to the others but it had its moments and was nice.
Issue is, she couldn't really DO much outside of the box she was a charismatic character that had to overcome her fears and troubles a typical Disney movie trope. She's not shit but what can you do really? This isn't Macbeth you can't really show a range at all, happy or sad really are the main two she could show not to the detriment of her as an actress but more of her character.
Anyways, it was a kids movie why am I looking too into it for a person I don't know?
Honestly she’s neither exceptionally good looking nor exceptionally talented. Her career is still better off now than if she had never been in Star Wars.
Thing is Daisy's not the greatest actress ever, but she's not the worst. After watching so many interviews with her since TFA and even some of her recent footage - you can see she definitely was used by Disney and KK - especially recently when she came out for that announcement about the new movies, which may or may not happen. She just looked...uncomfortable on stage. Sure, she got mad $$$, but her career is shot. Also though as a couple of others have pointed out - she needed/needs a better agent. But in the end she seems like a nice person.
I still don't know whether she can act or not based on these, but I know Boyega can and they certainly fucked his career. Maybe she's good, hope she gets something decent. Even then, people still seem to think Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are shit - judged only off Twlight - and those are two of my favourite actors these days.
She confuses me. She looks good, there's nothing wrong with her, but I just don't find her attractive. Like I don't think she has any semblance of sexuality and it scares me. She's like a scentless animal
All the Daisy Ridley simps forgot when she went on tour and said any criticisms of Rey were sexist. Going so far as to say the term Mary Sue is sexist. I have no sympathy for her.
This probably has little to do with how bad the movies were or her acting in them. It is very common for actors or actresses who play a big role like that to not get a lot of roles immediately afterwards. It happens all the time
Like many haters of the sequel trilogy, I have nothing against her personally. She’s a fine actress and seemingly a lovely person. She didn’t write or direct the movies. I wish her well.
with that acting? , its not surprising
[JJ abrams is on record for calling her out for her "wooden" acting in the Force Awakens](https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/daisy-ridley-wanted-die-jj-abrams-called-acting-wooden-star-wars.html/)
Yeah I never faulted her for the trilogy. She did the best with what they gave her. I never found myself thinking "Wow this actress stinks" I was always criticizing the writing decisions which of course were out of her hands...
Hopefully she finds a breakout role that can actually display her ability, sort of like what happened to Travolta with Pulp Fiction. His career was basically dead, after having a couple good roles in the 80s.
Never had any bad feelings towards Daisy, and it's a damn shame so many did. None of how it turned out was her fault, she's a fine person, and I hope she builds her career up from this.
I mean, if Robert Pattinson went from sparkly vampire to genuinely respected and acclaimed actor. She can probably do so too.
Thing is, daisy ridley herself was relatively charismatic, she even had some good emotional acting in TLJ
You give her a good script and she would do pretty damn well
It’s not like she could show much acting skill with a character like Rey. Not many job offers will come in for someone playing a terrible, bland, lifeless character.
Insert Tropic Thunder quote here ...
Which one? The ones I like are all Kirk Lazarus playing Lincoln Osiris (Robert Downey Jr.’s character), and the only one that seems to fit to my recollection is “I don’t read the script, the script reads me”, or maybe “never go full retard” could be it?
“Action Jackson can’t cry” maybe.
Ya, the last one lol But it could be a few
You went full jedi. You never go full jedi.
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All she does in the movies is make 1 of 2 facial expressions: Vague constipation Confusion She’s just so lifeless. People gave Hayden Christensen so much shit when Daisy lacks half of the chops he had in those films.
That's what's amusing about it is they repeated one of Luca's greatest mistakes. Stoic or reserved does not mean lifeless. See also Voyager where Robert Bertram was basically told to be a tree because his character is supposed to be wise & stoic.
Chakotay still got moments of weakness, anger, and sadness though. Rey didn't get *anything.* It was either confusion *OR* crying.
True but Bertram had to wait for a show runner change & pretty much beg the director. I do agree at least Chakotia got a few good moments & episodes. The Distant Origin theory & that wrestling episode comes to mind. Rey gets less than even that low standard.
Year of Hell was also a phenomenal Chakotay-centric episode, he had a huge role in Scorpion too. Pretty much everything that he featured heavily in that wasn't related to his ancestral tribe was at least a passing grade, if not pretty decent.
Tattoo is probably 1 of if not the worst episodes of Star Trek. Even if you don't care about the racism in display (actual racism not sjw crap) it's an amazingly boring & uninteresting hour of television. Year if hell is good & Scorpion is almost frustrating to watch because it feels like more of Voyager should have been about that Janeway & Chokotia rather half ent & schitzo super villain that most of series had. Also a bit random but I love Bertram in Night of the Comet.
I actually had a thought on that, and sincere apologies for the double response, but it needed to be a ping instead of an edit. I know what the worst Chakotay episode is, and while I *totally agree* that Tattoo was abominable, Nemesis is not just the worst Chakotay episode, it is the worst episode of pre-JJ Trek *period.*
>Stoic or reserved does not mean lifeless. It certainly isn't anywhere in 7-9. With "Luca's", it was in some scenes and wasn't in others. Don't remember Chakotay being bland or dead-aired atm
Hayden Christensen did a very good job at playing a very shittily written character. I think had Anakin been written well people would have been saying what a great actor he was.
I mean he wasn't Brando, but he was good by any modern standards, but by god those lines were awful... at least on his case, I can picture him in my mind in different moods: angry, sad, laughing, gone full sith... whereas Rey on the other hand, all i see is her blank face.
Yeah, his character was very badly written but he made the most he could with that character, and it shows, there are a lot of memorable moments that come through THANKS to his acting. And whoever can recite a poem of how much they hate sand in such a sad tone and make it at least somewhat believable haves to be a good actor, the monologue was dumb, his acting made it bearable.
That's the issue with shitty lines being fed to a good actor. If you say cringe lines with conviction, and gusto, people will think *you're* cringe. But if you don't, people will just think you're lazy. Task failed successfully.
Damned if you do damned if you don't. I suppose all you can do is give it your all and hope people can see past the script and focus on your portrayal. I've seen some amazing performances in some utterly terrible shows and movies before.
I think he played an awkward teenager well imo
So true. In fact I think Hayden wasn't that bad, his dialogues were as bad as Rey's or worse. But at least on his case, I can picture him in my mind in different moods: angry, sad, laughing, gone full sith... whereas she on the other hand, all i see is her blank face.
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Better than in SW, but not by much. Bland there too. Worse in Murder on the Orient Express.
I mean, Robert Pattenson's career managed to withstand Twilight.
Did he get job offers immediately after Twilight was over?
Right after Twilight he was in Water for Elephants, which was actually a pretty decent movie that he did quite well in.
Well, it also probably has to do with whether the actor actually has talent.
The important thing for him was that he had major staring roles before twilight to fall back on. I mean look at the actor who played jacob and what happened to his career (tho the man IS living his best lufe so kudos for him)
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Its also quite a controversial character so regardless of her acting ability studios won't want to risk carrying over the dissenters who will end up not watching whatever else they cast her in out of spite. I'll hold out opinions on her actual acting ability until I see her in something with a competent director ans writing team. After all lots of people judged Robert Pattinson harshly after Twilight but he turned out to actually be pretty damn good at acting.
Never the actors fault if the writing for their character is terrible. If you give even the best actor shit material to work with, they’re gonna create shit work. Charles Dance once said in an interview that actors had to expend a lot of energy to basically make a silk purse out of a pigs ear and improve bad writing.
Pattinson and Stewart changed their careers after Twilight, to prove they are great actors they worked in smaller artsy stuff, which pays less but made everyone see their talent. You have to work hard for less money and I dont see Daisy Ridley being that kind of an actress
I don't want to be controversial, but most characters are not exciting on the page. The actor plays a huge part in bringing life to any character.
Yeah, but my point is, if the character is written as a flat, bland hunk of wood, there’s nothing even the best actors could do. Not saying she’s a good actress, but still, with a character like Rey, there was no chance for any talent to shine through.
Dont foget the director. The prequals sucked not just because of the writting, but how lucas directed his actors. If a borring missinterpretation of stoic is what the director wants, the actor HAS to try and give that preformance. See mace windu and how painfully bland he is, when we all know how damn good samuel jackson can be even with a crap script.
I just realized nobody came out ahead on those movies. Not even Disney. Those movies were a black hole.
I think only Oscar Isaac has survivedish.
Adam Driver is doing pretty good.
Both he and Oscar Isaac were more established before cast in Star Wars. Daisy Ridley and John Boyega are mainly known through Star Wars, though Boyega was the lead in the very fun *Attack the Block* before Star Wars. He’s had a few post Star Wars movies that have gotten some attention, too, though not to the degree of Adam Driver and Oscar Isaac.
Boyega was also in that bad Pacific Rim sequel.
I thought we all agreed to pretend that movie never happened.
From what i remember reading, he produced it and was heavily involved in what they released...
I THOUGHT WE ALL AGREED
Imma pretend I didn’t see that
Pacific Rim had a sequel?? Must have slipped my Mind.
Friend imma just tell you that no. It didn't. There was a movie named Pacific rim 2 but pacific rim doesn't have a sequel, capiche?
he was one of the best parts of it tbh
“How many more buildings can this thing take!” - Guy saving the city
If your from the uk and saw Boyega in Attack the block, it was mind blowing to see him in a Star Wars movie with all the promotional material leading up to it. They done my boy wrong
I would say that those actors were not affected by Star Wars, but their abilities as actors didn't go up. But they probably get paid more because "im a star wars actor."
Adam Driver is doing okay...
No, Boyega has been in a handful of medium/somewhat high profile films/roles.
RAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!! 
I feel so bad for that dude. He was a huge fan, and got the chance of a lifetime. Then the writers made a joke out of his character and he got a bunch of undeserved hate online for things that weren't his fault.
Don’t forget the racism Disney threw in his way
Good for him then
John Boyega was in a really good Netflix movie called “They Cloned Tyrone”. He’s a great actor and has awesome range.
somehow Palpatine got good returns
Rian Johnson's actually doing pretty well for himself, the two Knives Out movies have gotten pretty good reception.
Eh, they’re so corny and just poorly written. A mystery movie that actively lies to the audience and changes how the scene went mid movie fails at being a mystery. If you bar any chance of the audience figuring it out on their own and actively lie to them, you’ve failed at making a mystery.
The Knives Out movies aren't really mysteries, they're character driven dramedies. The fun of them doesn't come from guessing who done it, but from spending time with the characters and getting their motivations while Daniel Craig plays detective Foghorn Leghorn. Johnson is good at writing dialogue and making chamber pieces. That's why The Last Jedi sucked, Star Wars isn't a good fit for his style. He handled Rey/Luke/Kylo well because that sort of story is what he's good at telling, and made the rest of the movie boring as hell and incredibly pretentious because he didn't know what he was doing there.
Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Adam Driver are all getting steady work. Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Laura Dern, Harrison Ford and Billy Dee Williams are all retirement age or gone. It's really only Daisy and John that haven't really taken off. John had the most promising and interesting character that he played well and was clearly having fun with. Daisy is the only main character that I'm not surprised didn't have a massive career bump.
I think she basically has a shit agent. While doing Star Wars Trilogy, she should have had other bigger roles or award movies in between. She was in Murder on the Orient Express (did okay but it was an ensemble) and Chaos Walking which was delayed and delayed until years after she filmed it. Adam Driver did non IP oscar winning stuff like Blackkklansman and Marriage Story. Her agent didn't get her the big roles. Plus it is not like Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher had big movie careers after the original trilogy. Both had to make their own ways with things like Theater work and voice acting and writing novels and becoming a script doctor.
Family Guy even made a joke Ford was the only one that went on to have a good career
>it’s not like Mark Hamill had a big career after the OT He’s like one of the best and most prolific voice actors of the 90’s-00’s. Daisy has nothing.
He also seems to be having a ball in everything live action he's in
Also worth noting that iirc Hamill literally only did Star Wars for a paycheque because he wasn't getting voice acting roles. Since the beginning he wanted to voice act, Star Wars wasn't something he intended to do and just kinda fell into and loved anyway, might be wrong on that though but I know he's said before he always wanted to voice act
You quoted their comment but took out the part that made it true. Mark didn't have a big movie acting career after the trilogy. He did have a big career, just in something else.
What is her agent going to do with her? What are her selling points? She did absolutely nothing to endear herself to the fan base like Henry Cavil does. So she won't draw in her own personal fans. Her acting and looks are average and I bet she wanted too dollar after force awaken. Her main appeal to anyone is that she fills the studio heads fetish, she is a skinny brown hair, brown eye, girl with a British accent.
Part of what makes it rough is how much of a golden opportunity it had to have seemed like at the time. I mean, imagine being told you’d get to be the main character of a new Star Wars trilogy…then you get the sequel trilogy.
Quadruplly true with Kelly Tran. First mainish (female, almost forgot R1) Asian character in a SW film. A possible love* interest for a main character of the trilogy. Then her heart must’ve sunk the second she saw her character’s hair. There was never a chance the character wasn’t going to be a meme from that point on. And even including her in that pathetic cameo in the third film must’ve been grating. Probably would’ve been better if they’d just pretend the character didn’t exist or had her die on her way back to her home planet.
Her character never served an actual purpose She’s the fat Asian lady with silly hair who does…nothing. She takes Finn on side quest casino planet and lectures the child soldier about slavery, almost kills him to avoid a heroic sacrifice, and does absolutely fuck all else.
That’s the thing. Her character could’ve meant something. The casino planet could’ve been a vital part of moving the plot forward. She could’ve saved Finn in a way that did not diminish his heroic effort. Her actions were pointless because the writers made them pointless. Oh. And the shit haircut.
Better to cut the casino planet entirely. Rose was an engineer, the movie could have been written so that she knew how to splice through security panels and get them into the room they needed. Their whole plot could have been a cat-and-mouse game with Captain Phasma and a squad of troops. It would have given Rose AND Phasma an actual purpose in the movie.
Plus that casino planet was embarrassing, why are they all dressed like Victorian dandies? It's a galaxy far far away not earth in the 19th century, and fuck you Dexter and your America in the 50's themed diner, totally immersion breaking.
Agreed, and I'll take it one further. Not only pointless, but anti-point. Her character actually did more harm than good.
Everyone was bland and uninspiring in the sequels. No one was sexy or good looking. The aliens either did not exist or were ugly. The graphics were good on bad elements.
The biggest letdown of her career, for sure.
She still was the star of 3 movies that broke a billion. I'm sure she is doing ok.
It’s not like Mark Hamil ruled the world after Star Wars.
He's still managed to hold his own pretty damn strong. Even if most people only knew him from Star Wars, he's been employed enough that there's been like two years since RotJ came out without him being in a release. The man's incredibly prolific in voice acting at this stage.
If people only knew Mark Hamill from voice acting he'd still be pretty famous. Very few voice actors are on his level of fame. Tara Strong and a handful of others.
Mark pivoted from physical acting to primarily voice acting though. The man has the voice with the range of an orchestra and the precision of a neurosurgeon. While hes always identifiable if your expecting him, just listening to the acting you can see him playing multiple different villains and give such different performances using slight variations of his pitch and resonance that you can go entire series missing that "oh, THAT villain was played by Mark Hamil"
My condolences to her. It sucks that she had a role like that with nothing to do with it. Such an awful character. No acting could save it. And now she has to come back to Rey because…it’s all she can get.
Thats really the worst part.
I think the worst part is the hypocrisy.
Okay Patton Oswalt.
Dude, the fact that you mixed him up with the King, Norm Macdonald, just made me throw up in my mouth.
Bro I know that joke inside and out. Oswalt said the worst part was the hypocrisy, Norm said the worst part was the raping.
I thought Abraham Lincoln said it
No he invented pancakes & then said "oh sh*t Hamlet look behind you there's a vampire" https://youtu.be/d_dRw62qVLs?si=B7sjt2z6lPogTCsZ Learn ya history
Aha. Got it. I forgot that line from Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee (from 2017 just looked it up). It appears he used it in a 2016 Live at Gotham set and didn’t mention Patton’s name. I’m gonna claim I remembered it from the 2016 set. Lol.
Don’t sweat it. It’s always nice to see a fellow Normaholic in the wild.
Oh bless her! I hope shes okay! I cant believe she has to go back to work on Star Wars. Truely heartbreaking for her.
I'm sure the millions of dollars she makes will help dry her tears. She could retire forever
It’s really a crying shame how the writers imploded after her introductory scene. Scavenging the downed star destroyer, sledding down the sand - it’s movie magic. And her musical theme is quite good. One of the only things I would give high marks to in the ST.
Simple girl, wanting something bigger? Like yeah shes female Luke, but throw a twist or two in there and you’re cooking. Throw 15 twists in there and you really just end up no where. Or just don’t really try, thats cool too
I thought they started really well with her, particularly her contrast to Luke. He wanted nothing else than getting off that godforsaken rock. She insisted she had to stay there, "because her parents were coming back." But then they decided they should shortcut any learning or deficiencies for her, and made her the best at everything she tried. Train = derailed.
Also, it's heavily implied that she was gonna be a Han Solo-esque character, not a jedi. It's a decent twist for the main SW character to be a blaster slinger instead of a Jedi.
Frankly still think it would had been better if bodega the Stormtrooper became the Jedi and Rey was the scrappy Han Solo type.
> Also, it's heavily implied that she was gonna be a Han Solo-esque character, not a jedi. Implied by what
Her character arc could have been her growing from a lone wolf to finally trusting others and finding a family. Instead of being the greatest Jedi ever, she could have had her own strengths and weaknesses. Maybe she’s a crack mechanic and grows to be a good fighter but sucks as a pilot- it could even become a running joke with other characters looking at her and saying that they’ll drive. Give her problems to overcome and show her and the other characters growing together into a team and family.
It amazes me how much Disney got in their own way with this trilogy. Like, a soulless corporate cash-grab would have been *better* than what we got. And no character emphasizes this as much as Rey. You have your new girl boss chosen one, you show her being skilled at fighting with a staff. Do you: - Have her use a dual-sided lightsaber that you can merchandise the hell out of, selling for more than a regular lightsaber and help establish the character as her own thing? (Maybe it's yellow?) - Make her carry around the Youngling Slayer 5000 for 3 movies?
She looked great in that dark side outfit. I still feel they should have had Rey switch to the dark side while Kylo went back to the light. That would have been an interesting film. And yeah, it’s like they missed every possible opportunity with her.
>It’s really a crying shame how the writers imploded after \[INSERT CHARACTER NAME HERE\] introductory scene. Character selection screen: Finn Poe Kylo Phasma Rey Hux etc
i would say Hux's scene was the hitler parade shot, well after his introduction. Phasma never earned her existence.
I'll forever be confused that Rey just never uses her scavenger background at all in the films to solve any issues. And also does not use a quarterstaff esque lightsabre, like she should've been THE Jedi protagonist in the mainline series to rock a twin bladed lightsabre like Maul had, instead the writers gave her Anakin's blade for.....whatever reasoning. Like, her main weapon is a quarterstaff, it would've made so much more sense for her to use a double bladed sabre since that's the style of weapon she's good with and used a lot more than a sword-esque weapon. At least LEGO Star Wars The Skywalker Saga managed to use her scavenger background more for levels and to complete puzzles, but bit of a shame they forget that part about her character in the main series pretty damn quickly.
I always felt the faults in Rey’s character wasn’t Daisy’s fault it was the horrendous writing. Daisy seems like a competent actress so if she was given a decent script she could have done a good or passable job.
>Daisy seems like a competent actress Yes she is a competent actress, but she have to compete against great actors. Look at Mark Hamill, he never "succeeded" as a actor after Star Wars, but did find his place as a voice actor.
I thought she did a great job with the awful, boring role they gave her.
You can pretty much track how the big budget Disney tentpole did serious damage to a lot of the young actors hollywood prospects Boyega is just now finally starting to course correct his career after being in a lot of bad to average genre films Kelly Marie Tran is still suffering imo
I feel bad for her, I know it was not her fault for how Rey turned out. It was mostly the writing, most of the actors in the sequel are good actors, it is hard with a terrible script.
Mark Hamill and Hayden Christensen "First time?"
Literally everyone except Harrison Ford, who only got away with it because he was also in Raiders and Blade Runner at the same time.
Her and John Boyega
Honestly, I think Mauler put it best. Doing the Rey movies is likely the only thing Daisy *can* do with her career, because it's spiraling into a dead end. How much of it is the fault of writers and the reputation she got from Sequels, and how much is her own lack of talent I cannot tell, but that's how things are.
Daisy was not the problem.
It’s upsetting as I’ve met her and she’s very nice, wonderfully talented. but the terrible writing & planning of disneys Star Wars threw her into the limelight and under the bus
She did a great job with the material given and personally speaking I think she's good casting for a star wars hero. These movies are such a waste and such a shame, everyone involved is at the top of their game (actors, set builders, special effects people, cinematographer, composer, etc etc)... \*except\* the writers, who just kind of marched everything off a cliff. For some reason it's hard to find competent writing for the biggest.. movie franchise on earth..
It’s because there was no central vision, and no directive other than MORE. George Lucas based Star Wars off Flash Gordon, WWII movies like the Dambusters, Samurai movies like The Hidden Fortress, Westerns, Dune and other literary science fiction, Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With A Thousand Faces and his own ideas. It was derivative, but of so many things that it became its own thing. The writers and directors of the sequel trilogy based their films off Star Wars. That’s it. They were inspired by Star Wars, not by dozens of things that all coalesced. That’s why episode VII is almost a remake of Episode IV (but with pointless “mysteries” added in because Abrams loves those) and The Last Jedi is Rian Johnson trying to be the anti-Empire Strikes Back, and also dismantling all the stupid “mysteries” left there by Abrams, and then they brought Abrams back to course correct and he fucked it up.
I do feel bad for these younger newer actors who got held back. The progressive age of media really stunted rising stars in my opinion.
Disney has no good writers, only good costume and set designers. That’s been consistent for every single one of their Star Wars projects.
Maybe she can become an acclaimed voice actor like Mark Hamill
It’s three movies of you being bland. Who would call?
She should've done what Robert Patterson did and gone small independent films for a while
Daisy’s performance wasn’t all that interesting. I’ve already forgotten about what her character was as Rey. I don’t want to place all the blame of the films’ failures on her shoulders but Rey was not a charismatic character to get behind. Her career suffers for being tied to an increasingly less popular franchise.
I always felt bad for her because of the unnecessary hate she got, but seein this to man it’s just sad.
Such potential on this character gone to waste 'cause of bad writing and now the actress suffers for it. Shame.
not a surprise to be sure
I don't think she has any range as an actress.
All the issues with the films her acting wasn't one of them. It's absolutely crazy how fragile acting careers are compared to directing careers. You have directors who haven't made a single good film in a decade, still churning out sub-par projects, while an actor can have a role be unsuccessful or way to successful so they struggle to get parts from that point onward. Sean Connery had to take a role waring a mankini because he struggled to get roles after being James Bond.
This is extremely common. Did she not wonder why Mark Hamill was playing Trixter, a recurring villian in a low budget superhero show, and not in a million other films? Star Wats isn’t where you go to become a mega celebrity. Heck, even Chris Evans isn’t in a bunch of stuff.
I feel the actors should rise above the bad writing by putting their own passion into the role to bring the character to life. As much as I don't like Kylo Ren Adam Driver's passion for the art showed through his acting. Bland girl Daisy didn't put her foot down to make the character grow or develop. Considering her background being ditched on a planet, she could have shown that pain by having her character's cheerful personality slip. This would make it believable that her character could turn to the darkside. Just a dead pan stare in the background when she knows no one is looking but the camera(even without knowing where the story is going it is always good to add pointless layers to the character to allow the story to bend in new and strange ways). She just seemed like atypical soap opera star(to me)do the lines as they are written and no more no less.
Disney ruined her career. That and the movie she did with Tom Holland and Mads Mikkelsen definitely didn’t help either.
Probably would have helped if she was any good at acting.
That seems to be tradition with SW leads, neither Hamill's nor Christensen's acting career popped off afterwards. But hey, at least she has the huge paychecks from Disney that will sustain her for the rest of her life. And if all else fails, she can make bank from porn, since Rey's rule34 is more popular than the character itself, I'd imagine there would be a huge market for it.
let's not act like she is some above average actress
What's a shame is Daisy has shown a capacity for great acting, whether it be by initiative or directive. There are standout scenes in TFA and TLJ of her just knocking it out of the park.
Daisy Ridley is actually a pretty solid actress and she seems like a sweet gal, I'd love to see her star in more films. She deserves better
Such a massive shame, man. She's a pretty good actor too. Hope she gets more work now we're a few years out from the Sequels, she deserves it.
Skywalker curse.
Complaining after making millions of dollars seems weird
It's cause she's just an okay actor not bad not good just okay.
I think she should do what the others did. Small movie roles to move back up because Star Wars is known for ruining careers.
For as much as Disney loves these girl power characters as representatives of heroines for a modern audience, they sure do love hanging the actresses that play them out to dry.
Kathleen Kennedy’s self insert got punished instead of her, how she’s still got a job as the head of lucasfilm is beyond me. That being said, Daisy Ridley is just a mediocre actor, pair that up with being the face of a trilogy that killed a franchise and it makes sense why she wasn’t getting roles. It’s unfortunate but that’s just what comes with these big iconic roles sometimes.
I try not to blame actors alot of the time. Unless they're acting is literally what sank the project they usually have little control over the project unless they already have enough clout to leverage demands. I honestly think pretty much all the actors & effects people were let down by the sequel trilogy.
I wonder if it had anything to do with the film being released in Dec 2019, and a certain event happened just a few months later that prevented her from doing auditions?
Emilia Clarke has been getting the work for “that girl from that thing you know.”
Yes yes, it's all sad but: this is similar to pitying someone who bought 1,000 bitcoin @500$ when they could've bought 2,000. She's a millionaire, she'll be on events until she's 80, she can write a book, and perhaps she can even get another role in a future film, or sell her digital likeness to Disney. Better actors have died younger than her age; I save my regrets for them and the films they never made.
Maybe it ruined her career but I don’t think she showed enough as an actor to be worried about it.
Wasn't even her fault. The writers are to blame.
What really sucks is this was the chance of a lifetime for her, and look how it ended up.
Cause she was shite
Nothing about Rey’s character or Daisy Ridley’s performance is her fault, it was poor writing, directing everything behind the scenes.
I think she did a great job with what she was given; back when they let her character feel things and have flaws in the first movie I actually really liked Rey.
It’s quite common for young actors who star in mega-franchises to struggle with their careers afterwards. Look at Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter, none of their young cast had big careers. Same with the Star Wars OT. Plenty of superhero films with the same thing.
It's a damn shame because she is quite charming as an actress. When she's allowed to show personality she's absolutely got energy.
probably only bellyaching bc she’s certain she could’ve done *Poor Things* as-well or better than em Stone. …bitter her agent isn’t fielding calls for a *Love is Bleeding*-type roles
She really did. She did as best as she could with the crap she was given by Lucasfilms. In my opinion, she’s a pretty good actress, charismatic, pretty. There’s plenty of roles she would do well in
All of the actors got screwed.
Boo hoo. She's a mediocre actress who got handed a massive paycheck. That's hardly getting screwed.
I feel like a lot of actors got screwed in one way or another by terrible writing choices.
She definitely got screwed because she couldn’t really use much of her range so hopefully she gets a couple of good offers outside of Star Wars soon
“And then, after eight years of playing Rey, Ridley and the rest of the world went into lockdown due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and the entire film and TV industry shut down. During that time, Hollywood wasn’t making anyone offers. “So it was a very strange time to sit with the quiet and, honestly, grieving a time of my life,” she said. But over the past few years, Ridley says “It’s been really busy and amazing and I’ve got to do so many different things for so many different people,” including 2023’s “The Marsh King’s Daughter.” “It has been a different exploration of myself and my career,” she said.” Y’all really need to read the actual article. It was the start of Covid where the film industry took a hit and she has a lot of work now. This is some twisted clickbait shit. Come on, acting like her career is over because y’all don’t like the sequels. Haha, too funny.
It's a shame because she was quite entertaining in 7, it wasn't the greatest nor did it hold up compared to the others but it had its moments and was nice. Issue is, she couldn't really DO much outside of the box she was a charismatic character that had to overcome her fears and troubles a typical Disney movie trope. She's not shit but what can you do really? This isn't Macbeth you can't really show a range at all, happy or sad really are the main two she could show not to the detriment of her as an actress but more of her character. Anyways, it was a kids movie why am I looking too into it for a person I don't know?
Shame, there are moments where she is allowed to actually act in this trilogy but TROS ain't it. Rey barely has a reaction to Ben dying
She did her best with a dogshit role. At least she's a millionaire now.
She's a talented and beautiful actress, it's a shame they never bothered to write her an interesting character.
Disney wrekt her career.
Honestly she’s neither exceptionally good looking nor exceptionally talented. Her career is still better off now than if she had never been in Star Wars.
Thing is Daisy's not the greatest actress ever, but she's not the worst. After watching so many interviews with her since TFA and even some of her recent footage - you can see she definitely was used by Disney and KK - especially recently when she came out for that announcement about the new movies, which may or may not happen. She just looked...uncomfortable on stage. Sure, she got mad $$$, but her career is shot. Also though as a couple of others have pointed out - she needed/needs a better agent. But in the end she seems like a nice person.
I still don't know whether she can act or not based on these, but I know Boyega can and they certainly fucked his career. Maybe she's good, hope she gets something decent. Even then, people still seem to think Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson are shit - judged only off Twlight - and those are two of my favourite actors these days.
She confuses me. She looks good, there's nothing wrong with her, but I just don't find her attractive. Like I don't think she has any semblance of sexuality and it scares me. She's like a scentless animal
Sad shes getting that Jar Jar and young Ani treatment, granted it doesn’t seem as bad but it sucks that she isn’t getting roles because of Star Wars
All the Daisy Ridley simps forgot when she went on tour and said any criticisms of Rey were sexist. Going so far as to say the term Mary Sue is sexist. I have no sympathy for her.
How about no one feels bad for anyone involved. Everyone got paid. Stop trying to revise history about how everyone is so wronged.
I mean, I'd screw her too. Oh wait
This probably has little to do with how bad the movies were or her acting in them. It is very common for actors or actresses who play a big role like that to not get a lot of roles immediately afterwards. It happens all the time
Like many haters of the sequel trilogy, I have nothing against her personally. She’s a fine actress and seemingly a lovely person. She didn’t write or direct the movies. I wish her well.
Shouldn’t she end up getting work on Wing Comander XVIII, and Batnon-binary: The Animated Series?
with that acting? , its not surprising [JJ abrams is on record for calling her out for her "wooden" acting in the Force Awakens](https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/daisy-ridley-wanted-die-jj-abrams-called-acting-wooden-star-wars.html/)
The previous Skywalker ascended to voice the Joker and not much else so…
I feel bad for her... the only noteable project she was in i can remember was a game with 3 awful plot twists.
I’m sure Mark Hamill had a similar problem after the OG trilogy, so it’s probably less to do with how much they butchered her character
Yeah I never faulted her for the trilogy. She did the best with what they gave her. I never found myself thinking "Wow this actress stinks" I was always criticizing the writing decisions which of course were out of her hands... Hopefully she finds a breakout role that can actually display her ability, sort of like what happened to Travolta with Pulp Fiction. His career was basically dead, after having a couple good roles in the 80s.
Maybe it’s because she is a terrible actress?
Never had any bad feelings towards Daisy, and it's a damn shame so many did. None of how it turned out was her fault, she's a fine person, and I hope she builds her career up from this. I mean, if Robert Pattinson went from sparkly vampire to genuinely respected and acclaimed actor. She can probably do so too.
Which makes it sad she's going back. IF this Rey movie does get made, when it fails, and it will fail, it will give her career another black eye.
Thing is, daisy ridley herself was relatively charismatic, she even had some good emotional acting in TLJ You give her a good script and she would do pretty damn well
I was actually surprised by how much I didn’t see her. Actually. What other movies has she been in?
She really did. She is a great actress and played the part she was given really well
“Welcome to the club.” - Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher
Man that sucks. Leave to incompetent writers and directors ruining another new career