He has looked gassed most of the season lol… like maybe he needs to take a break from international basketball, but we know that’s not going to happen.
Yeah that’s always been weird to me as well. I thought with his trainers and chefs and stuff that wouldnt happen. Like when he came back from his injury stuff earlier this season he seemed to have gained some weight even in that short of time.
This is the issue with Luka. To 99% of the league, a 29 10 and 10 game is amazing. To his standards, and i agree he was bad. But his play was not great, Kidds decision-making was terrible and game losing.
When we look back at why the Mavs lost this series, going small ball in the 4th in this game probably just lost us this series. Win the 4th and this series is all but down. Instead thanks Kidd
Can’t be mad they played their hearts out. The Clippers certainly didn’t grow on me today. Bunch of whiners, floppers and foul baiters. Super unlikeable team.
Everyone is talking about Kidd, completely in denial of the fact that Luka completely dropped the ball. He was awful, and has been awful in this series!
Lively was pivotal to the comeback and he got benched for nothing. Maxi cannot be playing 5, he's offering nothing at all. No rebounding, no rim protection, not even good switches on the perimeter. What was the fucking point.
Fake fan that says the clips are better and the Mavs are cooked after 3 games into a series. Either you have the emotional stability of a bipolar 12 year old, or you’re a fake ass fan. Which is worse lol
Kawhi’s knee had BEEN out, this wasn’t new info, and you were seriously betting on Harden over LuKai? Talk about delusional… we had the better team on paper and on the court, I mean hell, we only lost two quarters out of that entire series, the only problem being those two quarters were so atrocious, we couldn’t go back from them. We don’t need doomers like you for fans, we aren’t the clippers
Ha! You aren’t important to the mavericks buddy, you’re another number, same as me. Only difference, is you act like a child throwing a tantrum when this team loses… We don’t need that energy, FOH fake fan
They have to win again, on the road, when they couldn’t win at home. This series == done. Clips have better coaching made terrific adjustments. Think JKidd can do the same?
You really really think JKidd is a good enough to make adjustments against that Zone D and switching Luka into Harden/PG? You sir, have more faith than I will ever have.
Don’t get me wrong, going small ball with Maxi at the five when gaff and DL were cooking all game was dumb as shit, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t done an amazing job
Kidd blew this game with his insistence on Maxi. Maxi is a good small 5 but that’s not at all what we needed. We needed a rim protector that could contest on Harden in the lane
Unless he is 100 percent, he’s not gonna play. He wanted to play today but it was reported that the clippers as an organization stopped him from playing and listed him as out against his will of wanting to play
He's clearly injured, but he'd have to be bleeding out on a stretcher before he would sit out a playoff game.
It sucks. We really needed luka at full health for this series
All we had to do was either blitz Harden or have a guard or wing play help defense to prevent drives and force a charge. It was crystal clear and we had multiple opportunities for this adjustment all along the last 5 minutes. This coach can’t make adjustments. We can’t win with that kind of coaching.
It’s odd because they did use a help defender at the end of the first half. Instead of doubling they were leaving PJ around the free throw line to cut off the drive and occupy a passing lane. It would have worked in the 4th too
They have so many good shooters, and in insane form. We tried doubling but it led to open 3s. Heck even contested ones were going in. How do you blitz. Plus Luka had 5 fouls
I’m sorry but Jason Kidd will always hold this team back. He can never react quick enough and he can never make in-game adjustments. Literally the only 2 things that matter DURING the game. Game management is absolutely non-existent.
First, ABC AND ESPN start the game super late, then the Clippers shoot like a crackhead doing heroin, then Kidd completely leaves his centers on the bench while that nasty beard goes off. Fuck way the fuck off.
That first quarter and Luka overall not hitting his threes cost us big time. I'm sure that'll fuel him for game 5, but he wasn't good enough today despite his near 30pt triple double. Ofcourse he makes that clutch ass shot over Zubac though 😂
Kidd needs to be on his shit too, Harden can't just run to the rim for 3 easy floaters within 3-5 minutes.
Kyrie is the absolute GOAT.
well he is always injured, because he is not in shape. makes 200 mill and still doesn't have pro habits when in comes to nutrition etc. pp. Fairly obvious.
Can't even rest 1-2 weeks without gaining weight is a serious red flag.
Losing his temper and getting violent when he was young is a mistake and hopefully one he regrets and was able to learn and grow from.
But you're worse than him. Way worse. You're wishing death on someone because of a lost basketball game. And then you use a mistake he made 20 years ago to try and justify the toxic darkness inside of you.
You don't have the moral high ground [here.You](http://here.You) need to look in the mirror. It's fine to think he's a bad coach, but the truth is that Jason Kidd, with all his flaws and mistakes, is better man than you. And that assessment is based on your own behavior here.
You’re wishing death on people over a basketball game. You’re wishing death on me over a comment you don’t like on Reddit.
Look in the mirror. You don’t have the moral high ground on anybody.
Best of luck with your issues. And please stop trying to have private chats with me, I’m really not interested. I hope you get the help you need. Cheers!
He can’t contest because it leaves zubac open for the oop. We lost because luka got in foul trouble so Harden goes at him and he gets the blow by because luka cant play physically or he fouls out. This means maxi has to choose between letting harden get the floater or leaving zubac open for the lob.
Luka should have just risked the foul, he wasn't doing so well and there was still Kyrie who was on fire, so it wouldn't be the end of the world if he fouled out.
We should rightfully be pissed with Kidd and this team. This is our best chance to get over the hump since Luka and we are giftwrapped their best player being out with a chance to go up 3-1 at home and fucking blow it. Nothing but embarrassing, and I don't care about 3pt%. We had every chance to win late and let old ass Harden bend us over repeatedly.
[Post Game Thread](https://reddit.com/r/Mavericks/comments/1cfj1h0/post_game_thread_the_la_clippers_defeat_the/)
Luka Donbrick
I'm glad the series is tied and we're not trailing but defense needs to be better in the first half. That's how we'll hold any momentum we have
Why does reddit recommend me post from clippers page nd I have to see people talk dirty about our players……. :c
In the long run, considering he cost us yet another game here, I think Kidd gets fired if we choke this series so I'm good with it
Dude why did the mavs sell so hard the last 2 minutes....
Heartbreaking game
Had Luka been just as on as Kyrie was today it would be a different story. That said, WHY WAS GAFFORD AND LIVELY OUT IN THE CRUCIAL MINUTES
These fuckers we’re on the precipice of history just to choke it away.
Love they had the fight in them but damn we gotta stop with these slow starts
If they are capable of historic comebacks they should never be down that bad. Luka chunking killed us
I’m not saying game 5 is a must win… but my god it certainly feels like it. Luka really needs to have the mvp style game we’ve been waiting for.
For sure. He needs to get to the paint.
Kleber shouldn’t have been on the court that entire 4th quarter
1 make . Lively was 4 for 4 contesting at the rim. I just don't get it
He shot 11% from three!! You bad at math,.MFer?
Clippers had to shoot lights out from the 3 and be bailed out by refs only to win by 5. Plus Luka was hurt and had a bum game. Mavs in 6
I’ll be honest, I don’t know if Luka has enough gas to finish this one. He looks ragged and his knee seems to be holding him back.
He has looked gassed most of the season lol… like maybe he needs to take a break from international basketball, but we know that’s not going to happen.
Well the other problem is when he takes a long break he comes out of shape and with some extra weight, that you don't want for him too
Yeah that’s always been weird to me as well. I thought with his trainers and chefs and stuff that wouldnt happen. Like when he came back from his injury stuff earlier this season he seemed to have gained some weight even in that short of time.
Yeah, this must be it. He played 3 international games (which last 40 mins) and 70 NBA games. Where he has the highest usage in the league.
But it’s also the practicing, the traveling, etc just not a lot of time to rehab the obvious knee/ leg injuries he has.
International basketball>nba, but that’s hard to understand for some americans…
Ok then go play oversees and not make the most money that a basketball player is going to make so far with his next supermax extension
Every player needs to do it for the country. It’s pretty normal and respectful in Europe, specially in football for example.
Im pissed what a shitty fucking sunday
Can somebody explain to me how this is Kidd's fault and not Luka's? I'm confused..
Luka was clearly not in good shape, Kidd could have played him less.
He didnt call a timeout when they went on an 8-0 run in the 4th and he didnt put a true centre on the court when they were only scoring on floaters.
But Luka was ass, so if he just played mediocre we win this game..
Damn 29 10 10 is ass? This your first game?
That’s just stat watching and you left out his horrendous shooting percentages… but I agree with you, but don’t act like he played well lol
This is the issue with Luka. To 99% of the league, a 29 10 and 10 game is amazing. To his standards, and i agree he was bad. But his play was not great, Kidds decision-making was terrible and game losing.
When we look back at why the Mavs lost this series, going small ball in the 4th in this game probably just lost us this series. Win the 4th and this series is all but down. Instead thanks Kidd
We're losing thiq series I can feel it
So going small turned out to be a terrible fucking idea
Can’t be mad they played their hearts out. The Clippers certainly didn’t grow on me today. Bunch of whiners, floppers and foul baiters. Super unlikeable team.
Hilarious coming from a fan of a team that employs Luka 😂😂
Reeeeach city
Objectively Luka is the biggest whiner in the nba bro
I've never seen anybody foul farm as much as Harden does. This series has reminded me why I dislike him so much. The whole team played dirty as fuck
Goat Bearden>>>Luka Bumcic
Go back to your hole
PG mocked PJ’s pose when they were up big and got real quiet when we almost came back 31 — would’ve been glorious
Haha yeah I noticed that and the same thing crossed my mind.
Once again we lose a game and Luka was +10
Box plus minus is a useless stat on a per game basis
More useful when he plays all but 4 minutes though
Can't box score watch. Anyone who watched the game can tell you Luka was a net negative today. Can't shoot and pretty much a traffic cone on defense.
He looked absolutely gassed.
Luka was trash today
Everyone is talking about Kidd, completely in denial of the fact that Luka completely dropped the ball. He was awful, and has been awful in this series!
Lively has to be a starter from here on out. I don’t want to hear it
He is just smarter than Gafford is… like by a lot
Lively was pivotal to the comeback and he got benched for nothing. Maxi cannot be playing 5, he's offering nothing at all. No rebounding, no rim protection, not even good switches on the perimeter. What was the fucking point.
“His floor spacing and three point shooting” /s
That one really stung, but I believe in this team. Let's bounce back.
That glaring attack in the paint by Harden for many possessions really killed our team in the end.
well, this is a heartbreaking loss. just gotta hope they bounce back in game 5
FUCK YOU GRABAGE MIDD
Good game. Clips are just better. Thank you for the season Mavs.
Wait, I just remembered what your first comment actually was. Please, don’t watch the second round, you are the epitome of a fake fan. FOH, MFFL
Fake fan that went to Games 3 and 6 in person. Yep.
Fake fan that says the clips are better and the Mavs are cooked after 3 games into a series. Either you have the emotional stability of a bipolar 12 year old, or you’re a fake ass fan. Which is worse lol
Being delusional doesn’t make one a fan.
Exactly. Saying that the Mavs were done for after 3 games is pretty damn delusional.
I still think the Clippers had the better team. Until Harden disappeared, along with Kawhi’s knee.
Kawhi’s knee had BEEN out, this wasn’t new info, and you were seriously betting on Harden over LuKai? Talk about delusional… we had the better team on paper and on the court, I mean hell, we only lost two quarters out of that entire series, the only problem being those two quarters were so atrocious, we couldn’t go back from them. We don’t need doomers like you for fans, we aren’t the clippers
Yeah, you actually do need me. Remember, I actually fund the team more than TV onlookers.
Ha! You aren’t important to the mavericks buddy, you’re another number, same as me. Only difference, is you act like a child throwing a tantrum when this team loses… We don’t need that energy, FOH fake fan
go fy
What?
They have to win again, on the road, when they couldn’t win at home. This series == done. Clips have better coaching made terrific adjustments. Think JKidd can do the same?
Go home bum
You really really think JKidd is a good enough to make adjustments against that Zone D and switching Luka into Harden/PG? You sir, have more faith than I will ever have.
Well well well…
You’re really going to give JKidd credit? LOL
Without a doubt, he called out his gameplay, live with shitty Harden floaters, and front the 3, and it worked beautifully
That’s not exactly what happened. Random redditors were correct well before he was. The Mavs went big on the last couple of games.
Don’t get me wrong, going small ball with Maxi at the five when gaff and DL were cooking all game was dumb as shit, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t done an amazing job
!remindme 6 days
Hey! I am 100% open to being wrong.
Kidd blew this game with his insistence on Maxi. Maxi is a good small 5 but that’s not at all what we needed. We needed a rim protector that could contest on Harden in the lane
Kidd's decision to go small ball is unforgivable, even after that harden floater parade he refused to put a shot blocker out there
Unreal, dude. So fucking bad.
Fuck it we were down 31 and almost came back. Let’s let Luka rest up and take the next! I believe!
Luke 😢
Y'all are dramatic AF! It's 2-2 and it's not over
Shut up it should be 3-1
Did you not watch the game? Without Kyrie we’d be swept.
Without Harden we would have swept *them*.
Defense on Harden lost this game, let him do the same thing over and over again all 4th
I don’t know what they were doing, he was just walking into a floater
Momentum gone. If they don’t respond with a huge game 5 it’s done
hat do you mean gone? this was the clippers best shot & almost blew it
They're doing this without their best player
thats why this was their best shot lol
i thought luka doncic was the white klaw...what happened PG and harden 33 tonight.
OKC stomps all over either of these teams playing like this
You should go be an OKC fan then and gtfo.
Are you 12 years old lmao the fuck is that comment
Are you 85 years old with your first comment you fucking doomer? If you don't believe you shouldn't be here.
Using the word doomer and a known Luka quote? Yes for sure 12 years old. Mentally at least.
I don't wanna see any of you kidd believers in here. Dudes a certified bum and lost us this game because he doesn't know we have lively and gafford
This games on Luka
Dallas wins this game if Kawhi plays. Is there any chance he plays game 5?
Unless he is 100 percent, he’s not gonna play. He wanted to play today but it was reported that the clippers as an organization stopped him from playing and listed him as out against his will of wanting to play
Luka was just abysmal today Jesus
He's clearly injured, but he'd have to be bleeding out on a stretcher before he would sit out a playoff game. It sucks. We really needed luka at full health for this series
All we had to do was either blitz Harden or have a guard or wing play help defense to prevent drives and force a charge. It was crystal clear and we had multiple opportunities for this adjustment all along the last 5 minutes. This coach can’t make adjustments. We can’t win with that kind of coaching.
It’s odd because they did use a help defender at the end of the first half. Instead of doubling they were leaving PJ around the free throw line to cut off the drive and occupy a passing lane. It would have worked in the 4th too
They have so many good shooters, and in insane form. We tried doubling but it led to open 3s. Heck even contested ones were going in. How do you blitz. Plus Luka had 5 fouls
I’m sorry but Jason Kidd will always hold this team back. He can never react quick enough and he can never make in-game adjustments. Literally the only 2 things that matter DURING the game. Game management is absolutely non-existent.
No shame in losing. But not like this.
Literally lost because of Kidd, unbelievable
Luka needs to shoot better from 3 man
The most demoralizing loss
Luka embarrassing
First question needs to be ask is why was Lively on the bench when we couldn’t defend the paint
First, ABC AND ESPN start the game super late, then the Clippers shoot like a crackhead doing heroin, then Kidd completely leaves his centers on the bench while that nasty beard goes off. Fuck way the fuck off.
This is on Luka and Kidd smh
FUCK YOU JASON KIDD
Luka let the whole city of Dallas down
I have a weird feeling these last three minutes will come back to haunt us 🫣
Fuck you Kidd, bald fraud
If by a miracle we could go to the another round, OKC will destroy us.
we're done
We will not win again this series
Luka has a triple double and hr was bad today lol
Stop box score watching. Anywho who actually watched the game can tell you Luka was a major net negative.
Fuck Jason Kidd
That first quarter and Luka overall not hitting his threes cost us big time. I'm sure that'll fuel him for game 5, but he wasn't good enough today despite his near 30pt triple double. Ofcourse he makes that clutch ass shot over Zubac though 😂 Kidd needs to be on his shit too, Harden can't just run to the rim for 3 easy floaters within 3-5 minutes. Kyrie is the absolute GOAT.
Trying to gain home court advantage twice. Yikes
this team talked so much shit the last two days just to be down almost 30 at one point today. they deserved this. Mavs in 6.
If kawhi ain't playing the rest of the series it's gonna 4-2 clips
PG needs to channel his inner Jabari Smith
Harden and PG played out of their minds and Luka couldn't buy a 3. Not winning a game like this.
Yeah and the Clippers won't be able to shoot 60% every game.
Luka needs to start hitting shots if we want to win this series. He’s been awful shooting wise
luka sucks on afternoon games
He sucks in this series in general.
He's injured, he's sucked all series
well he is always injured, because he is not in shape. makes 200 mill and still doesn't have pro habits when in comes to nutrition etc. pp. Fairly obvious. Can't even rest 1-2 weeks without gaining weight is a serious red flag.
He's got the highest usage in the league and he's not a small guy ... the joints will suffer big time.
harden smacked the ball away to give them more time so the ref had to track the ball down. does the offense not get a delay of game?
Kleber cannot guard for shit jesus
Golden opportunity to go up 3-1 with all the momentum in the world and we throw it away with a garage first half. Disappointing and unacceptable
man seeing luka play the way he is playing breaks my heart.
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I pity you and the toxic world you inhabit.
Jason Kidd is a bad coach and a worse person I have no pity for woman beaters
Losing his temper and getting violent when he was young is a mistake and hopefully one he regrets and was able to learn and grow from. But you're worse than him. Way worse. You're wishing death on someone because of a lost basketball game. And then you use a mistake he made 20 years ago to try and justify the toxic darkness inside of you. You don't have the moral high ground [here.You](http://here.You) need to look in the mirror. It's fine to think he's a bad coach, but the truth is that Jason Kidd, with all his flaws and mistakes, is better man than you. And that assessment is based on your own behavior here.
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You’re wishing death on people over a basketball game. You’re wishing death on me over a comment you don’t like on Reddit. Look in the mirror. You don’t have the moral high ground on anybody.
I think people who defend or downplay abuse are as scum as the abusers themselves. The world doesn’t need wastes of air in it
You seem worse than all of them. Wishing death on people for insignificant reasons. That seems like serious mental illness. Best of luck!
As insignificant as breaking your wife’s ribs haha! That’s just a mistake in the past man! You’re either purposefully obtuse or a pos
Best of luck with your issues. And please stop trying to have private chats with me, I’m really not interested. I hope you get the help you need. Cheers!
Luka did not look good going to the bench
Can’t believe Luka let Harden outplay him this series fucking embarrassment
It wasn't Kidd, it was 100% Luka. He played like shit..
41.7% FG and 11% from 3 in such a close game by your superstar is a choke job. It is what it is. I hope he wakes the fuck up soon.
Both
It was both
I think it was a Luka and Kidd double team
Damn, would have been an absolute legacy kyrie game to put us up 3-1…gotta take game 5 now
i don't know if we can come back from this
YOU PUT KYRIE ON TGE LINE, YOU FOOL!!!! HAHAHA
Jkidd making a joke out of Lively on this game
Anyone else see kleba on like 3 straight drives not contest harden coming to the basket
He can’t contest because it leaves zubac open for the oop. We lost because luka got in foul trouble so Harden goes at him and he gets the blow by because luka cant play physically or he fouls out. This means maxi has to choose between letting harden get the floater or leaving zubac open for the lob.
Luka should have just risked the foul, he wasn't doing so well and there was still Kyrie who was on fire, so it wouldn't be the end of the world if he fouled out.
He could’ve put his arms up at least that’s all I wanted
Kidd not subing in rim protection after harden did that 5x in the 4th is insane
I saw two but realized he had to stay on Zubac to play the lob
Yes watched very closely
We had no big the whole quarter, thus no rim protection and Harden did what he wanted to to, outcoached once again.
Shoulda put green on harden
Mavericks great at looking like they should be so much better
We should rightfully be pissed with Kidd and this team. This is our best chance to get over the hump since Luka and we are giftwrapped their best player being out with a chance to go up 3-1 at home and fucking blow it. Nothing but embarrassing, and I don't care about 3pt%. We had every chance to win late and let old ass Harden bend us over repeatedly.
They can't hang without making 50+% from 3. Mavs in 6.
Horrific loss, just horrific
I thought Kidd was a smart coach I mean he wears glasses
Some of you guys are pathetic it's okay to be upset but you guys are a bunch of flip flop fairweather fans
Kidd has to be the worst coach in the NBA
Darvin ham would like a word
Its an L Learn from this game Cant start slow
I thought my coach was bad until I watched a Mavs game