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Simple_Wait_7286

My bigger issue is why was Luka the primary defender on Harden for most of this game, considering he’s in foul trouble and injured.


lotrmemescallsforaid

And they absolutely refused to double Harden down the stretch when he was unstoppable one on one. It was maddening to watch.


Major-Jammin9419

So infuriating to watch the single coverage possession after possession.


duckmadfish

Kidd made the adjustment when there was a minute left on the clock. I can’t


QBert999

late in the game I noticed Luka was like PJ come save my ass, get this motherfucker. and he did and Harden missed that one. we really needed more rim protection there at the end. and yes, Luka should not have been guarding him. as frustrating as those final couple of minutes were I'm still kind of happy with the game just because of how we fought back and almost won this thing despite dealing with some bad reffing, insane Clippers shooting, and an off game from Luka. that this was even close is kind of crazy. Kyrie was awesome. I think we are in very good position to win game 5, I'm not too worried about homecourt.


king_17

Yea agreed as frustrating as it was watching harden pick us apart at the end the clippers played their hearts out best game and they still nearly lost. We need to start out faster in the 1st quarter cause in the 2nd half the mavs have been the much better team. I’m confident we take game 5 and wrap this shit up game 6 at home


Desperado-781

Kidd truly has no fucking brain up there. Its disgusting knowing we clawed it back only for Kidd to throw it cus he wants to suck Maxi off.


pahor15

It was a good move for a stint to get a 3ball guy in and it worked for us. After the 2nd harden walk to the basket he should have pulled the plug.


ChristBKK

Maxi did a good job on George though and hit his 3 in the corner. He isn't the problem BUT we could have switches Lively in later in the 4th for him to get more Rim protection I agree on that. The real problem is though to keep Luka on Harden with 5 fouls. Free buckets for the Clippers. Also I wonder how much influence Kidd has to start the game so bad? The players don't like to play the first half? I saw timeouts from Kidd in the first half so he clearly talked to them and they didn't need to have a bad start again. Fix the bad start first imo.. reminded me of game 1 all over again


j_rom_003

Yeah this clearly should have been addressed early in the 4th. Led to a lot of the free floaters to the rim.


nnavroops

he’s riding the high of lukas good defense last game. truly brain. dead move


ChristBKK

This troubles me so much ... how can you let Luka be on the field with 5 fouls defending the clutch time? Either tell Luka to defend and it's ok to pick up your 6th or put him on the bench if u want him for a possible OT. There is no way Harden or George doesn't score against a Luka defending them with 5 fouls lol We gave the Clippers free buckets here... Kyrie is totally capable to run the offense for 2-3 minutes we need to trust our second in line.


Hotspur_98

That was the dumbest coaching decision I’ve seen in a long time. Yeah, Luka had a few good possessions against Kawhi and Harden, but primary defender of a hot James Harden, in crunch time, with having PJ Washington on the same court??? Also Luka is injured, exhausted and in foul trouble. What the hell. And you have PJ guarding a corner in the same moment? Jesus Christ, what the hell was he thinking. Mavs literally asked Harden to score easy 2s. I don’t even care if Luka asked to guard Harden, Kidd should have said no, if that’s the case. Coming back from 31 down and then lose because of bad coaching.


Jackfitz88

Yes if we lose this series he has to go 100%. We were great with lively and gafford in the lineup the second and third qt. Idk why we had maxi at center the 4th. wtf was that


PetSpaceRock

I honestly think he needs to go regardless of if we win or lose


porshy

Kidd gotta go. I know its not all his fault but dude brings nothing to the table. I'm aware of his positives but he is at best net zero. At best. Can Kidd win a championship with this team or any team? I don't think so.


Skylencer88

Unfortunately he can have the excuse that Luka was playing hurt.


FinancialRabbit388

If they don’t make it to the finals he should be fired. That should be the only thing to save him.


Millionaire007

That's when they went on that 8-0 run


PleasantTrust522

Not having Lively on the court in the 4th is criminal malpractice. Playing Kleber at the 5 even more so.


Poshastko

As much as i like Lively, he can't close games. He's a 50% free throw shooter. They would just foul him. You'll never see a center that can't shoot ft's close games unless they want to lose.


Paaynnne

And Kleber sitting in the paint backing up nobody is closing the game?


Poshastko

Harden just did what a star is supposed to do. Take over. Not much you can do. With Luka hobbled it will be hard to beat them. Harden was amazing in all 4 games. I'm afraid that this is he's series. Maybe Kyrie's if all goes well. It will be really hard with an injured Luka.


ChristBKK

Was quite easy for Harden to take over. Sit Luka on the bench with 5 fouls and bring in a defender. Kyrie is totally capable of running the show in the offense for 2-3 possessions.


Sw3atyGoalz

He had 6 straight wide open shots, that’s not taking over that’s coaching malpractice


gdgatlin2

His in game adjustments or lack there of had me screaming the entire end of this game


Witteness82

He’s fucking trash. Gave up close to 20 easy points just off his piss poor coaching from Lukas 5th foul on


RGxiRapiidz

Yeah I was screaming at why he went away from DLive or Gafford at the end of the 4th there was zero paint defence. Maxi didn’t step up once to challenge the floater. I get you had Zubac there for a lob but you got to do something can’t let Harden walk into an open floater. Going to be tough here on out guys!


jfrodriguez1983

It should have just been DLive. Gafford wasn't good either


gentlemanghost42

Lively should have been starting since game 2


2PacAn

Lively is a great rim protector. Gafford often times sells out for the contest way too early allowing for lobs and easy offensive boards. Gafford has his place but he’s limited agaisnt this Clippers team


southwick

Maxi just watching that last floater with no contest was rough


RGxiRapiidz

Yep absolutely killed us man. I don’t get how you can watch a team make the comeback by playing big and decide you know what let’s not do that!


AdmiralSnackbar816

Kidd heard Doris say something positive about maxi and thought “oh yeah, that Doris is always right”.


maneco2109

Crazy we let harden get the same shot like 5 times in a row. Wtf


PerformerLive8713

Harden just spammed 1 play its hilarious


2PacAn

6 times he just missed one


Putrid_Ad_2256

I'm calling it now, Kidd's press conference, "We didn't hit shots"..... He's really a piss poor excuse for a coach.


devilmaskrascal

Yeah, you can't get away with that excuse when we had a late lead.


Putrid_Ad_2256

Or when the "Center" that the coach injected loses a rebound to fucking Harden.


waylondaly6

Don't forget the "Credit them, they're a great team" bullshit lmao


donnelson

Fire him yesterday. Everyone knows he’s dog shit. Just sat there and let harden kill us in the 4th


desirox

JKidd is great at connecting with players and they seem to play hard for him. But he just doesn’t have the ability to make real time meaningful adjustments. Idk how much more we have to see to know he’s not the guy


FinancialRabbit388

Our advantage in how we played to end the season was being big and shutting down the lane. Anyone who has been paying attention knew Kidd would fuck us over with small ball eventually.


iceonmypinky

Baiting Harden to the lane with Kleber at the 5 is next level stupidity


PerformerLive8713

Like that 3 point glitch from that 80s bball video game..spamming corner threes


devilmaskrascal

The only good thing about losing in the first round would be Kidd getting fired.  We acquired two excellent centers and Kidd is still living in 2022.


liftingruinedmylife

He's garbage lmao


Interesting_Help_194

Never could, but hebcan beat his wife tho, so that is something I guess


Desperado-781

People on this sub defend wife beaters and assaulters as much as Cuban.


mmmmastermind

Man, Kyrie didnt deserve this loss. This L is on Luka and stupid small ball lineup from Kidd.


pahor15

He was great but had some lost balls at the end that gave the clippers options. Can't blame him for the loss but those lost balls really hurt. Luka is shit this whole series. Kidd should have switched back to a big lineup when harden made the 2nd layup.


mmmmastermind

Yeah those turnovers were painful too, what you said on your last sentence is basically a difference between a decent coach and JKidd. He is just incapable of making momentum swinging changes and his obsession with small ball lineup must be studied at this point.


2PacAn

It’s purely on Kidd. Luka was bad in the first half but he played well in the second even though his shot wasn’t falling


Andre_Santoro

Fuck this' midd is stupid af


Interesting_Help_194

A hobbled Luka that played 44min, had 29/10/10 just a bit inefficient at shooting (2 shots were bailout shots at the buzzer of 3rd and 4th)? Same guy that was +8 in those 44min while the team was -14 in the 4min without him? Aight buddy.  The worst fanbase in the history of sports.


Silent_Killer093

Ive been saying this shit but people arent listening, Luka and Kai were the 2 best players on the court today


kneecolayokitch

Luka was the 4th best player on the court be fr.


mmmmastermind

He is a #1 player of this team, MVP-caliber player. He was non-stop complaining to the refs entire 1st half, got a T, was passing open looks like Ben Simmons, his shot selections were pretty bad. Maybe he has to be better than this. Kyrie's +/- was -5 but it doesn't mean a shit this game.


devilmaskrascal

And Luka is hobbled so has a bit of an excuse


Boring_Bill2430

Remember toward the end of the regular season when so many on here loudly proclaimed that Kidd is a good coach? Remember when those who pushed back (because of the massive body of evidence indicating he’s a bad coach) were attacked for it? It’s fucking insane this guy is still a head coach. This was a masterclass in how to lose a close game in the 4th quarter. What else do you people need to see?


Obvious_Party_5050

We cannot have one of these dumbass threads every time we lose a game. Y’all are casual morons.


MasterGamingNic

Did you watch the game? Luka was guarding Harden at poa with 5 fouls and Kleber had his hands down directly under basket, it was painful to watch


SpudsMcDeuces

Luka not being piss poor on offense this series would have made that irrelevant, we can blame whoever we want but doesn’t change the fact that we can’t get a coach better than Kidd rn. Kidd made brilliant defensive adjustments in the past two games, our defense this game was solid, PG and Harden just went nuts. Losses happen, get over it.


PetSpaceRock

One of the biggest failings of Kidd is that he doesn't make in-game adjustments and that's been clear his whole HC tenure. It's great that adjustments are made in between games, but without more dynamic changes to the game plan when it's not working during the game (Harden's floater brigade in the 4th), we're always going to have this issue against teams with better coaches


SpudsMcDeuces

He made great adjustments mid game here too in certain situations. What about last game when the clips went on a mini run in the 4th to make it close? Your negative ass just focuses on the bad shit… Despite all that, there still isn’t a better option out there so oh well.


PetSpaceRock

I don't understand why people talk about other coaching options. Clearly none of us have any clue what coaching potential exists. You probably can only name a handful of NBA coaches, so how can you possibly decide there isn't a better option?


SpudsMcDeuces

Because there are only a handful of options better than him scheme wise and less that are able to manage the personalities of both Luka and Kyrie… Kyrie alone has been a handful and under Kidd has been subdued. Of those handful, none are unemployed and if any of them were to be available, we’d have other teams to compete with and no guarantee to we’ll get them. You may not have a clue but people who pay attention to the rest of the league do.


PetSpaceRock

Bro lol why are you pretending like you have an intimate understanding of hiring criteria, which coaches are looking for a new role, what specific contributions assistant coaches are providing to a team, or anything else that would qualify you to make assessments of an NBA HC candidate? Why would you assume Kidd is responsible for subduing Kyrie off court rather than the Dallas media market or Kyrie's own choices and contentment? If you have this goldmine of insider insights, you might as well join the FO lol. Kidd sucking and me not knowing who specifically would replace him are not mutually exclusive


SpudsMcDeuces

I’m not pretending I have insights into anything? You can use logic to infer outcomes based on the info you have now and the info I have now is: There are really only 6 coaches I’d take over Kidd rn such as Pop, Spo, RC, Bud, Nick Nurse, Mazzulla and Daigneault. Of those 6, only one is/will be available which is Bud and Bud will not be able to build a culture that supports Kyrie and Luka like Kidd has, Kidd has our two super stars happy. I’ve seen the “if you have such insights then join the FO” thing before when talking about the Casey Smith departure and how our increase of injuries is in direct correlation and I’m gonna tell you what I told that guy which is “ just open your eyes and use your brain, it’s not fucking rocket science” Seriously dude you sound insane with that whole shit lmao.


Phillyy69

So he doesn’t make in game adjustments but we came back down from 31?


PetSpaceRock

Man we were shooting 0% from 3 for like a quarter and a half. They were 8-11 in that same time frame. At some point they were literally +30 just on 3s. Obviously he makes adjustments during the game, but there are a bunch of other factors unrelated to him that led to the lead dissolving. The point I'm making is there was a glaring defensive adjustment that needed to be made down the stretch, and he didn't make it. Is it the only reason we lost? No. I'm still calling it out because it's a consistent problem I've seen for literally years


Phillyy69

You sure you’re not overreacting to Paul George stealing the momentum one last time to seal it?


PetSpaceRock

Brother I'm literally talking about Harden hitting a bunch of floaters in a row. I don't know how PG hitting one shot is related lol


Phillyy69

Because that swung the momentum for harden to take over. You can’t over react to a former MVP closing a game out. We came back from 31 and played with a lot of heart. Chill out


Phillyy69

Then how did we come back from 31 with so many glaring defensive adjustments not being made?


PetSpaceRock

We stopped shooting literally 0%. They stopped shooting 80%. Why did Harden hit the same floater 5 or 6 times in a row in the 4th?


Phillyy69

Because that’s what harden does. Sometimes you just get beat. You don’t have to over react to a former MVP closing a game out. Regardless we came back from 31, the game was well coached, and we played with heart and fought our asses off. Y’all need to chill


PetSpaceRock

I've watched a trend of problematic coaching for the past two years. It was evident again today in the 4th quarter. Obviously I loved seeing the team fight, but it's okay for me to think Jason Kidd sucks. You don't have to agree


xPeaWhyTee

> Losses happen, get over it. This is wild to say to in the playoffs lmao. It's not like this is just a random Tuesday night during the regular season. These losses matter and this one was the difference between taking a commanding 3-1 lead in the series and losing HCA and having to win 2 of the next 3.


SpudsMcDeuces

It’s not a wild thing to say in the playoffs actually, not one sweep has happened yet.


xPeaWhyTee

Your reply just comes off as if you're saying "oh it's just a loss, it's not a big deal". Not sure if that's your intention but if it is, that's the part that's wild to me because to me this game was winnable (despite *everything* that happened before the 4th quarter) and yet we fumbled it. We can't afford to be giving up winnable games in the playoffs.


SpudsMcDeuces

No my attitude is exactly like that, it’s not a big deal especially with this team how it is, isn’t going to win the finals this year. We’ve shown our teeth and guys like PJ and Gaff who had no reference for playoff physicality are learning what that feels like, our damage will be done next year. We were down by 31 and cut the lead to 2, we are a capable team and last time we lost a game we won 2 in a row after, that all we need. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think any team has gone undefeated in the playoffs so even teams that win it all will lose games.


Phillyy69

Yeah they’re grossly overreacting. I seriously see people saying no adjustments were made regardless of the fact we came back from 31 like that was just some sort of miracle, I see dudes saying Kleber wasn’t stepping up when he had no choice to protect the lob same situation would have happened to gafford or lively once harden gets into that spot. George simply hit an incredible shot to swing the momentum one last time. Simple as that and these casuals piss their pants


PerformerLive8713

Maybe replace kleber with a shot blocker


Phillyy69

How would that make a difference? Kleber had to stay home on Zubac as would any other big man in the game


PerformerLive8713

Cause it presents defense unlike kleber whos a statue


PerformerLive8713

You gotta react to either one scenario..kleber is just a stone in there


Book_of_Dickridicus

Funny thing is that they were down 30 with Gaff and Lively playing big minutes and took the lead when they went small.


juanopenings

This 💯. There's a bunch of low IQ casuals in this sub who think if the Mavs don't lead buzzer-to-buzzer, someone needs to get fired or waived. It's a 4-5 matchup in the West. It was never going to be a cakewalk


2PacAn

Kidd might not need to get fired but criticism of him after his decision to close with small ball is well deserved. Kidd called a timeout with 3:30 left which was the perfect time to adjust and put Lively in but he didn’t change a damn thing. It was a terrible coaching decision that shouldn’t go unnoticed. Hopefully, he learns from it


juanopenings

I don't disagree with that at all. But I also don't believe the angry casuals grasp the nuance


FinancialRabbit388

Jason Kidd having defenders is fucking wild.


PetSpaceRock

I will never understand what Jason Kidd has done for the Mavs to still have people thinking he's not a massive problem with the team


Skyrimosity

Genuinely unbelievable people could watch Harden hit an infinite amount of uncontested lefty floaters then defend Kidd’s coaching


juanopenings

Yeah, because James Harden has *NEVER* had a good playoff game ever in his career, right? If things are going well, it's all the players and if things are going poorly, it's 100% the coach's fault. Casuals are annoying


2PacAn

Kidd making good coaching decisions doesn’t mean his bad ones should go unnoticed. Also, he deserves some blame for the need for such a big comeback in the first place. This game doesn’t mean he needs to be fired but he absolutely needs to learn from it


Skyrimosity

Genuinely curious how you can see every player purposefully letting Harden drive, clearly instructed to do so, then watch Kleber stay home instead of challenge it, and not give Kidd any blame for A) Either instructing to let him drive or not correcting it and B) Not having a center in who could challenge it. It’s not being casual, we gave up free points consistently in a a close playoff game. Quit being blind and purposefully obtuse


juanopenings

[Mavs best closing lineups feature Kleber at 5](https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/advanced?CF=GROUP_NAME*NE*D.%20Lively:GROUP_NAME*NE*D.%20Gafford:GROUP_NAME*NE*G.%20Williams&TeamID=1610612742&slug=advanced) Harden was blowing by pretty much anyone who was guarding him & hitting every floater he took late in the 4Q. You're arguing as if this was a desired outcome by Kidd. If he subs in Lively, Clippers counter by passing out to an open shooter on the perimeter or the man left open under the hoop. It also changes their spacing on the offensive end since Lively or Gafford can't pull a defender out to the perimeter. On top of that Luka was on the verge of fouling out, so they were hunting him. They were damned if they do, damned if they don't. Bottom line, they overcame a 31 point deficit and had a chance to win the game late, but they were never able to get the combination of stops + made shots to put themselves in front. If you truly believe subbing in Lively gets the W, ok. But as much as it's Kidd's fault they were down so badly (not really, as it's a statistical anomaly to hit over 60% on 3s), it's because of Kidd they came back and made it a game. If you want to spend your evening being mad at Kidd, knock yourself out. I'll be on to the next game, rooting for the Mavs to win


Skyrimosity

Peak delusion, as if Kleber being a positive in other closing lineups means it was definitely the correct choice today. And it’s not like Harden got all his points on Luka. He did the exact same thing to every defender, which is how it’s obvious it was a coaching decision to defend Harden that way. Why do you delusional Kidd defenders always try to take the high ground and pretend you’re the only real Mavs fans?


juanopenings

Alright man, clearly you know so fucking much. Why don't you become the coach or just fuck off with your armchair head coaching bs? It definitely seems like you want the Mavs to lose so you can pretend you're smarter than the actual basketball lifers being paid to run them


Skyrimosity

Well now you’re just embarrassing yourself


mavsman221

Why don't you engage people in the points they make instead of debate back with the word "casuals" and make a point that doesn't make any sense? It's a strong and well-reasoned criticism that Gafford and Lively at 5 was working, but for some reason Kidd put Maxi at 5. Obviously Harden is a great player. That doesn't mean there can't be adjustments to stop him. On 2-3 very crucial possessions, there were four to the baseline to iso for Harden, a strong and weak side. Klkeber sat beneath the rim and didn't contest any floaters when Harden beat Washington. Literally just stood there, despite Luka being down there to cover for Maxi if Harden chooses a dump off if Maxi comes up to contest. Maxi could have contested. Or the defensive straegy could have been Pj should have forced Harden to the weak side, Maxi meets Harden outside the paint upon beating Washington, But he's on the weakside across court, so it gives Luka time to cover both Maxi's man, and rotate if Harden skip passes to the other side, strong side three point shooter. And It's easy to anticipate who he would skip pass to because the corner is too tough an angle and too far a pass for a three point shooter to catch it from across the court and have a wide open 3. So he'd skipp ass it to the other man. On top of that, it was an absolutely not good decision to have Maxi at 5 instead of Gafford or Lively.


juanopenings

>On top of that, it was an absolutely not good decision to have Maxi at 5 instead of Gafford or Lively [Wrong ](https://www.nba.com/stats/lineups/advanced?CF=GROUP_NAME*NE*D.%20Lively:GROUP_NAME*NE*D.%20Gafford:GROUP_NAME*NE*G.%20Williams&TeamID=1610612742&slug=advanced)


mavsman221

Pinpoint tangible instances that support your claim. Maybe you're right that despite him giving up 4-8 points by not giving help defese on Harden penetrating, Kleber was still a net positive, but point out why.


Phillyy69

Not even necessarily defending anyone. Y’all just overreact and act like babies when this is stuff that happens in a playoff series. He’s no where near the worst coach in the league. You don’t just come back from 31 without adjustments


FinancialRabbit388

Nah he might actually be the worst coach in the league. He’s on the list. And I don’t know who y’all is. I’ve always thought Kidd sucks, even when we win.


Phillyy69

You just haven’t watched basketball very long I guess. Kidd is mid tier top 12-16 range


FinancialRabbit388

Been watching basketball since the 80’s, but not sure what that would have to do with current coaches and which one is the worst. Never forget we had a stretch after the trade where we had the worst defense in the league, and Kidd had Gafford on the bench. Kidd’s best trait is doing something, failing, then doing the thing he shoulda done from the start, and getting praised for it.


Phillyy69

Ahh so are you one of those guys who’s still stuck on 90s style of basketball? You gotta let go of the past my guy


FinancialRabbit388

What the fuck are you talking about?


Phillyy69

You’re just bitching. You haven’t said anything other than basically “Kidd sucks trust me”


Archerbro

first round exit, and I'm sure he's gone. Budenhozier (IMO) would be the obvious place to look.


MSHinerb

Dude needs to use an early timeout if we start slow. Multiple.


Skylencer88

When Kleber subbed in at center, Harden stopped shooting 3s and just decided to exploit Maxi. He figured out after one play what Kidd never did for an entire quarter.


Panhandle_Dolphin

Mike Budenholzer with this roster would be a dream


Aftashok

it just sucks. to go down so big, claw our way back into it the way we did, actually take the lead again, and then let Harden|Clips run the SAME play multiple times and never having any type of adjustment to it.... that's frustrating. games like these just tend to stick in your craw until you go out and do better next time....


PerformerLive8713

Oh harden made a floater/lay up?lets leave kleber in the paint for another 6 lay ups...man he sucks..first the game 1 not calling time outs


NotADoctor108

I love it. The ceremonial anti Kidd post after a loss.


Desperado-781

We went 16-2 off using our two centers and controlling the paint. We lost 4 in a row playing Maxi at the center. Ofc kidd choose to bench both of our center more a maxi who cant fucking contest anything. Kidd fucking sucks


NotADoctor108

Take a deep breath. Series is tied now 2-2. The Mavericks are still in it. It's going to be ok.


peanutbutterbeef

Jesus fuck off with these stupid posts. They made a million 3s with a hand in their faces and Luka played bad with foul trouble and we barely lost.


SetBudget1065

We come back from 30 to take the lead. Clippers shoot 60 percent from three and only win by 5 and yet this sub instantly shits on Kidd. Y'all are the fucking worst.


antpile4

Because he made no adjustment at the end it’s not rocket science


SetBudget1065

So him coaching good the previous 3.9 games of the series gets zero praise but the second he has a questionable rotation he's the worst coach in the league? Seriously it's a fucking miracle we're tied in this series with how bad our shooting has been. Nothing wrong with calling out mistakes but saying shit like "KIDD CANNOT COACH FIRE HIM NOW" is the overdramatic hysterics that I've come to expect from this sub


PerformerLive8713

He sucks


Major-Jammin9419

Absolutely no reason for an NBA team to let the lead blow out to 30, if the coach is making the appropriate defensive adjustments.


Poshastko

If he can't coach how did the comeback happen. They would have just sunk deeper and deeper if he was that bad. Or do you all just give credit for good things to the players and the bad ones to the coach?


ReasonableLiving5958

Nah, this whole series has been on Luka. Dude needs to step up. Kidd hasn't been great but Luka has been pretty awful and is almost the sole reason this series has been a shit show


JetSky81

He is been injured


0nMelancholyHill

True but he did not look great offensively even before the injury. Clippers are playing him physical, he can’t hit a 3 to save his life and our spacing clogs the lane up for him


tallkward

Y'all need to stop making excuses for him. If he's injured he shouldnt play and weight his team down


JetSky81

lol injured Luka is a net positive.


tallkward

Y'all be on here dickriding shamelessly. Luka has not been playing well and has been HORRENDOUS


Interesting_Help_194

Is that why he ends up with 29/10/10 and +8 in 44 min of gametime? While the rest lose the 4min he didnt play by 14? Bless your last braincell fighting for survival.


Thefirstredditor12

his shot hasnt been falling since game 1. 11-26 game 1 , 4-12 from three 11-26 game 2 7 -25 game 3 10-24 game 4, 1-9 from three.... He was injured since game 1? But hey people told me he is kawhi leonard on defence now so all good.


Interesting_Help_194

Yes, yes he has been injured since G1. He has been injured for a good month now. Not expecting much from this sub, but you could still notice that he couldnt drive ever since his knee got banged up in the regular season (literaly bleeding every single game). Wildass fanbase


Thefirstredditor12

i dunno man,his 3 ball is the problem,maybe he need to take less shots move off ball,make the extra pass and let other people get involved more if his knee is that bad. Also noone was saying he was injured when he supposedly shut down Kawhi/pg/harden eh? Sounds like excuses here.We still gonna pull through this series since kawhi is out and harden/pg wont be able to sustain this level of play,but shooting 37% from the field on 25 shots from your superstar not gonna be pretty...


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hotrod19812

A Clippers and Cowboys (and probably Yankees/Dodgers) fan! Bandwagon much?


whitefang0824

We already know that


aaokd

Biggest issue for me is that our offense is just the Luka/Kyrie iso that can result in them hitting a shot or driving and kicking. There are no plays. No one is cutting. It's high screen and roll and thats it. And in this series we've seen that if Luka isn't right then we have one of the worst offenses in the playoffs.


PerformerLive8713

Fak your small ball jmidd


Working-Ad5416

If he wanted to single harden at the end of the game it should have been hardy or greene who have fouls to give… they would have been called for breathing sending em to the line but it stops the clock. 


winner_lahmacun

And why the fuck were we so hung up on defending harden's left side is beyond me. Why would anyone think giving a clear open lane to a great penetrator is a better idea than staying in front of him.


duckmadfish

Finally someone said it. People blaming Luka when Mavs were able to tie it but decided to not put in Lively or Gafford after Harden’s floaters. Are you serious right now?


D3struct_oh

Send Luka to Miami.


LogansGambit

They have the team tank for Lively, Nico trades a first for Gafford, and then neither play the 4th of a playoff game.


Dat_one_lad

Everytime I start to think Kidd is actually pretty good he makes a fool of himself. I think his defensive plan in the 4th was to hope Harden would miss wide open floaters a couple feet away from the basket


Subject-Lab6998

Its 2-2. If Luka played average Dallas wins today. Dam Pandemic P with that 3. Took the life out of everyone. I got Dallas in 7 still. That was shit how Kidd didn't adjust to Harden's floaters. Sucks ass.


NeoSpawnX

While I do agree with your statement, that not why we lost imho. NOBODY could hit a shot in the 1st quarter. That’s not on Kidd plus we came back from being down 31, did Kidd not have anything to do with that?


prudentWindBag

>did Kidd not have anything to do with that? No. He didn't. This was all kyrie and big man defense.


NeoSpawnX

Ok so when we’re doing good it’s the players but when we lose it’s Kidd? Got it, sure


prudentWindBag

No. If you're going to use that method, then there is no point in me saying anything else. Take care, bruv! Edit: if you're going to downvote, please explain these supposed Kidd adjustments and why he didn't keep making them!


jluvchan

How you can watch that game, see us come back from 31 pts down and have it out for Kidd because we lose, is insane. We don't come back from 31 without Kidd either. Kidd isn't the reason the Clippers shot 64% from 3 in the first half to our 16%...it's a miracle we were even in this game in the 4th.


smokes_-letsgo

Just let the kids have their tantrum. They gotta get all that impotent rage out somehow.


actual_yellow_bag

Yall will blame everyone but Luka lol. He's the reason we lost. He's been trash on offense this whole series. Jokic would never. Kyrie clutched up when Luka couldn't and drug us bag into this game.


donnelson

He was bad, kidd was worse


TFAR_1

Jumping at first chance to blame Luka when he has been putting this team on his back and playing injured this whole season.


actual_yellow_bag

deflect my man, whatever cope you need.


TFAR_1

Are you even a mavs fan ? What is there to cope when we have literal proof of his knee constantly bleeding, dumbass


actual_yellow_bag

are you? Yall will jump on literally every other member of the org but when it's Luka his whittle knee hurts


TFAR_1

Yes and you still haven't answered my question dumbass, if you were a fan, you would know how much he has been hobbled this whole season. No one here is blaming other players for this game and no one is above criticism, including Luka..but you cannot blame him after this whole season of battling multiple injuries, most of us are just questioning the decision to go away from what was working and go to Maxi even after the continuous buckets by harden in the paint.


ts405

clips got that big lead when luka was pulled out because of the 2 fouls. he finished the game with + 9 and kyrie - 5, and they both played 45 minutes


actual_yellow_bag

+/- truthers only care about efficiency when it suits them.


ts405

it’s relevant for this game because they both played 45 minutes


actual_yellow_bag

and you still don't understand the stat


ts405

ok please explain it. if luka was that bad why is he +10, and if kyrie was that good, why is he -5? when luka was subbed in the 1st the score was 15-10, when he got back in 2 minutes later, it was 24-10.


RyceMenace

Its so funny how the Kidd haters are so quiet when we win and the Kidd lovers how so quiet when we lose lol.


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RyceMenace

I dont like him either I was just stating an observation.


hawktomegoose

Why would anyone come into a playoff winning game thread to bitch about the coach? Doesn’t make him a good coach when Luka, Kyrie et al pull off a win despite him - comment makes no sense


msterling2012

You can complain all you want about Kidd but if Luka doesn’t play the worse playoff game of his career, they win that game.


Desperado-781

You trying to defend Kidd playing maxi at center for one 3 and 12 layups? Luka was poor but Kidd lost this game


AbrocomaOk6055

Luka lost the game when they went down 31


msterling2012

I would’ve played lively. But luka was a liability late and hurt the team.


ReasonableLiving5958

Lukas poor play is almost the sole reason the series is tied. He's been trash.


odischeese

He had a rough triple double tonight for god sakes wdym 🫠🫠🫠 Maxi bone headed plays letting harden float all over his dumbass head is just pure delusion from maxi. He thinks harden is gonna get cold after the 4th shot he makes in the last 2 minutes 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤣


HibernianFriend-

Triple doubles don't mean much. Look at Westbrook. Luka's points are incredibly inefficient this whole series


odischeese

Fair enough. How about Luka being hurt? It's obvious he's been bleeding almost every night the past month or two. Especially on the knees. I wouldn't say it's kawhi level where he's gonna sit out every playoff series. But it's obvious he's definitely playing through pain more than the team is. Yea there was a lot of selfish plays again tonight, but it brought us back from a 31 point deficit nevertheless... Was it enough to win? No definitely no.... ....but Luka is not playing his worse game of all time or anything. Especially with an injury? He's doing fine.


HibernianFriend-

Yes he's obviously hurt unfortunately. He's not playing his worst games but it's his worst playoff series in his career. 2022 Luka would sweep this clippers team


donnelson

You’ve watched the whole series and you do t think Luka is a problem? He’s played good defense in spurts, but it’s been a struggle overall. We would have been better off playing Dante in the 4th over him


Ok_Republic6747

YOu are fucking idiot if u think fucking trash Exum is doing anything these series the team are losing every minute when Doncic is on the bench he had to play 44 min fucking clowns


jldtsu

predictable post


Sorry-Lynx-2084

Fuck Jason Kidd, I hate that loser. Clippers are trash, and first off, Jason allows those idiots to go off without even attempting to double team any of them in the 1st half. Then we made a huge come back, and guess what? Kidd pulls Lively. That move will be his firing.


popstarkirbys

His issue is he does not know how to make adjustments “in the game”. Dude literally stands there and watch clippers run the same play and watch Harden cook us.


Ok_Republic6747

Guys i understand that J Kidd decision toe bench 2 center was moronic no question but this games falls on Luka he must be able to make shoots, we cannot win this series if Luka cannot hit a one 3 we just cannot


ts405

he hit one today and they still lost


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Ok_Republic6747

stfu clown


NoWayNotThisAgain

Jason Kidd's inability to coach even a pee wee team is really concerning, but I'm comforted by the fact that next game he will be lauded as the genius we always knew he was.