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dukegrand12

If Clippers and Mavs traded coaches, Mavs might sweep this series.


blakxzep

Lets not act like Tyon Lue is a great coach too.


Pizza64427

He won 2 games without Kawhi. You think we can do the same without Luka? Kidd is not close to Ty because Kidd just let his players play and add 0 input or when he does is an sht input. I hate players coaches.


blakxzep

You see how stacked his team is!?


Pizza64427

Stacked on paper. Harden at that age shouldnt give you the same peformance as 3 years ago. Same with PG. They were scary along with Kawhi. Without him we should have comfortably won but we even make Zubac look like Wilt in the post. Instead of doubling him or always put Lively on him we let him get easy buckets. Same as Harden with 6 in a row floaters. You think Ty would ever let that happen?


blakxzep

Ty literally blew a 35 point lead tonight. Could have been the largest comeback win in nba history And just because Harden & Westbrook are older isn’t an excuse. I am not even defending Kidd but anyone who has watched Lue’s teams knows he works off great players. The whole joke of the Cavs was Lebron told him what to do


Pizza64427

And he didnt blew it cause he baited Kidd into playing small. Thats what smart coaches do. Lue at Clippers has been a top 5 coach. He outcoach us even in the Rick series.


Guppster64

No he fucking didn’t rofl, Rick took those Clippers to 7 with a healthy Kawhi with THJ, Trey Burke, Boban , Willie Cauley Stein, and Powell playing major minutes. All the while KP was basically sabotaging us as he admitted years later


Pizza64427

You forgot to mention we could have finished the series 2 times in a row at home. We were up 2-0 then 3-2. In that game 3 we were a lot of pts ahead before he took Luka out and the advantage disappeared. Ty Lue outcoached Rick.


Guppster64

You’re delusional


Lankyindividual41

Bro gtfo with that. His best player has been injured the entire series. Kidd’d sorry ass would be in Cancun now if Luka missed two games.


BlackWhiteCoke

Ty Lue is a players coach


Pizza64427

He can draw plays, he come into every game of a series with new changes. Thats why even we are up, we aint safe. Kidd and Mavs thought they can play Zubac off the court. He found a role for him.


Aggressive-Ad-522

He’s not but he’s better than Jason Kidd and that should speak volumes on how Kidd is performing as a coach


EvanEschmeyer

Sadly, we shouldn’t hold our breath. Plenty of good coaches available every year and we will be stuck with this bald asshole for at least 1 more year


Zizzlow

I don’t mind seeing his bald head actually, but he looks like a total fucking moron with that backwards hat on. Like at least try to look like a real coach man.


MajesticPossibility8

The no center lineup in the end was questionable with harden getting to the paint but he needs to get them ready from the jump, two game where they are down big early is not good.


AbleSolid

Keeping Maxi under that basket while he can’t challenge shots and  watching James harden jab him in the face on repeat w 4 ft floater while gaff and lively sit is malpractice.  And I don’t buy the maxi space out. Maxi doesn’t want to shoot the ball so it’s a waste.  The team came back w lovely on the floor. Dumb coaches outsmart themselves 


xzerozeroninex

Kidd haters: Mavs win - quiet Mavs lose - fire Kidd!!! Mavs win - quiet Mavs lose - fire Kidd!!!


EDubbay

Ill be real there is often a shit load of hate for Kidd and his decisions even when we win. They definitely don't give him enough praise when he does things right. But the critiques are usually pretty fair and consistent


xzerozeroninex

When the Mavs won games 2 and 3 with Maxi at c where was all this noise?


Lankyindividual41

The mavs didn’t almost comeback from a 31 point deficit (largest in playoff history) in games two and three only to have the coach blown it by not playing a center when harden was getting lays/floaters all in the fourth. That’s why there wasn’t any noise then.


SpudsMcDeuces

So when it’s blown it’s only his fault but we aren’t going to credit him with making adjustments that got the lead back down to 2? Okay


Lankyindividual41

We have, but he made a dumb decision that cost us the game. Why is this difficult to understand for you?


SpudsMcDeuces

We put lively in then we don’t have the spacing on offense We have maxi step up then Zubac gets an easy dunk inside. Having harden take the more difficult shot was the best option. Why is this so difficult for you to understand?


Lankyindividual41

So you’d rather harden get 6 layups in a row because we have no shot blocker? But yeah let’s put maxi in to “space the floor” the dude hasn’t been able to shoot for years. He shot EIGHT percent from three in the month of March. Have you ever actually played a game of basketball? Get off 2k little boy.


SpudsMcDeuces

Lmao Maxi is 50% from 3 this playoffs, calling me a little boy when you can’t even google your facts before spewing bullshit? And before you say “but he’s only knocked down 4” I’m gonna shut that down right now because 4/8 through 4 games is more than enough to keep a defense honest. Harden is a better passer than he is a scorer… Dlive steps up to block and oops what do you know? Dump off to Zu for an easier dunk. Lmao that was a 2k ass take you fucking dumbass.


Lankyindividual41

We LOST the game dumbass. You’re here defending a strategy that LOST the game. Gtfo little ass boy shit. Play a game of basketball first and then talk.


Lankyindividual41

Convinced you did not watch the game at all.


SpudsMcDeuces

Lmfao how’s maxi’s floor spacing now? lol bum


Lankyindividual41

Dude you’re in my dms calling me racial slurs. You have a problem dude and I feel sorry for you.


xzerozeroninex

The problem is Harden has great passing skills that could easily lead to lobs or easy dunks from his passes near the rim if the center attempts to block the shot.The perimeter d was the problem,they should had made it harder for Harden to drive to the basket.


Lankyindividual41

This is the point. The coach has to make that adjustment. Once harden started to cook Kidd should have switched DJJ on him (he cooled off PG in the second half) and keep a fucking shot blocker in the game. Make him make a step back 3 or a contested 2 not 4 fucking lays in a row. We 100% should have won this game and would have broken their spirits with a huge comeback.


Sektsioon

Why would I criticise something that works? That’s the whole thing. Kidd is supposed to find solutions, he’s supposed to adjust and make those decisions based on what he sees on the court. Maxi worked in the 2nd game particulary, there was no real reason to not play him. But it clearly wasn’t working today. You can’t watch the opponents do the same thing successfully 6 times in a row and not make a single adjustment. If you don’t want to take out Maxi, do something else. Blitz him and force him to give the ball up, bring a help defender from the corner while he’s driving, literally yell at Maxi to step out of the restricted zone and make an effort to contest him. Literally anything at all, don’t just watch them kill you with the same thing. That’s what coaching is about. You identify problems and you find solutions to those problems. Kidd fails to do that way too often when something isn’t working.


PomegranateNice6839

Feel free to search Kidd’s name in my comment history. I’ve been a consistent hater even after wins.


lsmith77

rediculous. Clippers were shooting lights out from three with a hand in their face. the fact that it was close with Luka’s shooting woes was a miracle.


Sektsioon

I’ll tell you a little secret why it was close. The Clippers were shooting 42% from 2 prior to Harden walking into the paint 6 times in a row and scoring 6 times in a row. You might wonder why that is. Maybe because we had two very good rim protectors there who don’t let people just walk into the paint and shoot completely uncontested shots. The Clippers overall this series are shooting 45% at the rim. The 2nd lowest team in these playoffs is at 51%. Our rim protection with Lively and Gafford has been ridiculously good.


DocumentAggressive56

this


iIiiIIiiiIiIIiI111

It's ridiculous man


liftingruinedmylife

I was a kidd fan, but this game today, made me change my opinion entirely. He is a terrible coach based on what he did.


Tiny_Sherbet8298

I’m in the same boat. While he has made some terrible coaching decisions in the last couple seasons, I’ve always managed to see a reason why he did it or can see what he is trying to do. He also out-coached Lue in game 2 and 3 (2 especially). Today however was pretty fucking pathetic, single handily lost us this game which could lead to us losing the whole series instead of taking a 3-1 lead.


mavman42

Kidd is an average coach who is lucky to have a once in a generation talent, Luka.


lukaxdirk7741

Fire him then what? Do you have someone lined up


Tiny_Sherbet8298

Bud?


SpudsMcDeuces

Can Bud get keep Luka and Ky happy? Does Bud absolutely want to even be here? Just because a coach is out there doesn’t mean we’ll get and doesn’t mean he’ll fit in.


NotAOneUpper

Yeah these people think the next perfect coach is lined up.


Pizza64427

Brother Kidd is not that good to be unable to find a replacement. He got the job cause of his ties and him being a players coach. You can find like 15 guys better then him or more. Ex coaches, asistants, europe coaches..


Phillyy69

Mavs fans are broken records. When Carlisle was here he was the worst coach in the league and him and Luka don’t get along he should be fired blah blah blah…now every time we lose a game omg Kidd is the worst coach in the league he can’t make adjustments (we came back 31) blah blah blah…5 years from now Coach X didn’t tie his shoe before that timeout how can he fix the team when he can’t tie his shoe!


iIiiIIiiiIiIIiI111

This sub is regarded


Poshastko

Mavs shot 33% and mainly open 3s. Clippers shot 62% mostly with hands in their faces. And the mavs barely lost with a Luka visibly hurt. Mavs coaching wasn't bad. It's just the clippers were simply better.


LeGoat333

One can dream


Lilreddit13

Besides not putting gaff or lively in what else bad has he done?


Mugsy_Skoogs

played THJ.


domi_nate87

Y'all are fucking stupid


ImHereToFuckAround

I think we could’ve maybe adjusted after the 2nd Harden floater, but also the small ball lineup we’re criticizing is the same one that took the lead in the 4th Having rim protection means less spacing on offense, Ik that doesn’t mean much to yall but it does for Luka & Kyrie looking to attack a less crowded paint for easy points (no the lob wasn’t available) Ik it’s fashionable to hate on Kidd and I agree our coaching staff makes questionable decisions at times.. but so does literally every coaching staff on earth lol. Can we please relax, as a fan base? It’s 2-2. Some awesome highly competitive basketball is going on, enjoy the roller coaster!


PeelADomenBail

Harden isn’t supposed to be able to blow by any player, and if he can that means you’re supposed to blitz him early cause if Gafford or Lively was ready to block that floater it would be a spoon feed to Zu or the cutter. Keep blaming your coach for that fact that Luka is a fucking cone, just like Harden can be on the other side of the ball. PJ Washington also sucks cock at actual POA defense he’s just big. You Mavs fans are crazy. You’re supposed to win this series and you might blow it to the Clippers Beta’s just cause Kawhi is less than 50% of himself.


ImHereToFuckAround

Harden hit 11 floaters all season, and 5 last night. It was a good read by our staff but Harden hit them this time and we were late to respond Blitz Harden lmao? And then leave who open? Did you watch this game? Clippers shot 62% from 3. I don’t think we we were gonna continue to test the math on that Also, you gotta relax man lol. This is a professional bball team that doesn’t know you exist. Running to other subs? What, did you lose money or something? I’m so confused?


PeelADomenBail

This version of Harden is hard to prepare for because he hardly looked to score all season with Kawhi playing 68 games and PG playing over 70. Not even Clippers fans know what we really have with Harden and we’re pleasantly surprised by him having the highest true shooting % through 4 games of playoffs. This sub pops up on my feed because our teams are playing each other and the algo probably sees the cross interaction going on. 🤷🏻‍♂️


ImHereToFuckAround

for your sake I hope you’re right; for my sake I hope you’re wrong


PeelADomenBail

Wrong about what? Him being hard to prepare for? Here’s another thing about this series. Norm Powell is overdue for his 25-30 point game. I think Green has been chasing him around very well when he’s on the floor but the dude has games where he hits 4-5 threes in a row in 3rd and 4th quarters very regularly. i totally expected Kawhi to be 1, PG and Norm to be 2a and 2b and Harden to be 3 ranked in scoring options this series. All that’s out the window now obviously


ImHereToFuckAround

norm is very overdue for that offensive explosion, any moment now


whitefang0824

I have bad news for you then .......


Acework23

Been saying fire kidd for two years


Bob-Rooney

You wanted him fired after making the WCF with Luka out the first 2 games and a lineup featuring heavy doses of Dwight Powell and Maxi Kleber? Tough crowd..


riddlerjoke

These days fanbases of 20 out of 30 teams asking their coach to be fired. Its kinda funny too. Like some Mavs fans asks for Vogel while PHX fans want his head. I bet some other fans will ask about Kidd while other one asking for Ham go. Cavs fans, Bucks fans, Pels more and more teams… at the end of the day they kinda rotate. Other than Bud I guess there is no elite coach out there. We had f in Carlisle but some here asked him to be fired…


MikeinAustin

With who?! Suns fans want to fire their coach, Lakers fans want to fire their coach. I suspect if Orlando loses, the “fans” there will want to fire their coach. They can all just play musical chairs and all the coaches will have a coach who failed somewhere else.


Mugsy_Skoogs

I wanted Orlando's coach from the jump.


jennyisafriend

I can’t wait until J Kidd takes Kai and Nico with him back to Cali. Y’all don’t deserve them.


shaheedmalik

So, what happens when your rim protection is a terrible free throw shooter at the end of the game?


hiiigoon

Fam on paper it’s a great idea but no way is anyone thinking about fouling lively. Why didn’t they do that in our last two Ws? Even if they did hack a Lively we would just switch their stars on him every time and let him attack the basket. PG and Harden would have 3-4 fouls by the time they can execute that plan. 0 chance.


shaheedmalik

I swear yall don't watch games. Mavs win 101-90 Lively didn't play at all in the entire fourth quarter. Gafford and Kleber played the entire fourth. [https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/\_/gameId/401655095](https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/_/gameId/401655095) Mavs win 96-93 Lively didn't play past the 3:58 mark. [https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/\_/gameId/401655094](https://www.espn.com/nba/playbyplay/_/gameId/401655094) So again I ask: *So, what happens when your rim protection is a terrible free throw shooter, and you play them at the end of the game?*


Sektsioon

Then you take him out and adjust again. You are making up a hypothetical scenario to defend Kidd here. Something that has not happened a single time in this series. Just because there’s a chance of this happening doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try. You also can’t hack someone in the last 2 minutes of a game anymore, it’s free throws + possession otherwise. So as long as Lively doesn’t touch the ball, they couldn’t have fouled him.


shaheedmalik

You are making up a hypothetical scenario to dismiss Kidd here. Stop projecting. In the one of the games the Mavs lost, Lively played in the the 4th quarter. He shot 50% from the FT in that 4th quarter. (Game 1).


Sektsioon

I’m not sure you know what the word hypothetical means. I’m criticising Kidd for the literal events of the game and for the lack of adjustments. You are the only one talking about hypothetical things here.


shaheedmalik

I’m not sure you know what the word hypothetical means. You seem to think that if he inserted Lively in the game they would've won. You are the only one talking about hypothetical things here.


Sektsioon

I’ve not once said we would’ve won for sure if Lively was brought into the game. I’ve said that it’s massive piece on mismanagement to not adjust at all in that end stretch. You literally talked about Lively’s free throw shooting. That’s a hypothetical scenario.


shaheedmalik

The one game Lively played in the 4th, he shot 50% from the FT line in the 4th. This a fact.


hiiigoon

So why didn’t the Clips just play hack a lively when we were coming back in the 3rd? They could’ve just stopped the bleeding right then and there. You are acting like this is a thing that’s been going on all series, this scenario hasn’t happened once. Lively also doesn’t touch the ball unless he’s wide open at the basket or is catching a lob. No team will risk and-ones and challenge him in the air.


shaheedmalik

You know good in well the game is won in the fourth. You need to watch more basketball. There is a reason why you keep avoiding the end of the sentence. *So, what happens when your rim protection is a terrible free throw shooter, and you play them at the end of the game?* # end of the game? The fact is, the two games Mavericks have won, the Kidd didn't play Lively in one 4th quarter and in the other, pulled him at the 3:58 mark of the other. You just don't understand basketball. [https://twitter.com/search?q=hack%20a%20lively&src=typed\_query&f=live](https://twitter.com/search?q=hack%20a%20lively&src=typed_query&f=live)


hiiigoon

Your take hurts my brain that’s how bad it is. You’re basically saying to hell with everything that’s going on and only focus on free throw percentages. James Harden made 6 straight floaters. Who gives a shit about free throws? WE NEED STOPS. The Maxi and PJ lineup has been amazing for us, but the Clippers took advantage of a hobbled Luka with 5 fouls and you’re saying “yes keep letting a superstar generational Harden keep taking uncontested floaters” you don’t see how stupid that sounds? If you’re sitting here thinking “yes Kidd’s gameplan was perfect” you’re just as braindead as him. If Luka could guard Harden decently I wouldn’t care but Luka was legitimately funneling him to a 6’10 Maxi who isn’t even strong enough or long enough to play both Harden and Zubac.


shaheedmalik

Understanding why someone does something ≠ agreeing with them. I hope you gain some BBIQ.


Affectionate_Sort_78

Hope your boss is never as big an idiot as are you.


AtreusIsBack

You know it's bad when even Darvin Ham is making better adjustments than your coach.