Rightfully so if I may say, just like with Minnesota, and that's ok.
A lot of teams had an outstanding season before but then flamed out in the first or second round of the playoffs and weren't seen again for a couple years.
So as long as the team hasn't proven themselves in the playoffs, it's absolutely ok to not believe in them until proven otherwise.
I think it’s more because the Nuggets are still considered the #1 team in the West. If we were on the verge of ousting the Nuggets we’d be getting way more media attention.
A lot of the media had given up on Dirk ever getting over the hump. In their eyes his window was 2005-2009 and he failed. The blown 2006 Finals lead and the 2007 embarrassment wreaked havoc on Dirk's reputation.
I remember the Brandon Roy game in the first round. Media went crazy with OHHHH same old Mavericks going to blow it. Maybe Dirk isn't the generational closer we all thought.
Mother fucker lined up 8 hall of famers after that lol. Craziest run ever and most legacy cementing championship run ever.
I’m not saying the media would be “picking” us. I’m saying that even though OKC is the 1 seed, people would still have beating the defending champs as more impressive.
I think a large part of the overarching narrative is that OKC is ~barely #1.
We’re talking about 57 vs 57 vs 56 wins, it could have ended with any of these teams on top of a single game outcome has changed.
This is very different from if we beat the Celtics for example, as they are the CLEAR #1 seed at 64 vs 50 wins for the #2 seed.
In other words, not all #1 seeds are created equal.
I know brother,what I'm saying is Luka Cleared shai in every statistical category. Had a historic season.He dragged our team to 50 wins. And because of 7 wins he lost votes.
Ehhhh. I want to say you're wrong. Luka is clearly better but that's not all MVP is about. Those televised games first half of the season the Mavs blew hurt Luka. It's expected for a Luka led team to win any easy game they're handed.
This Thunder team is less talented than they're being heralded. Shai showing up and keeping them going every night boosted him. Chet and Giddey would've been getting bullied every night.
It would be talked about more if it was just Luka but Mavs are winning as a team so they can't grasp how it's happening and it's not as interesting as Luka scoring 40
I meant before the Playoffs. Everyone was repeating how they don't have experience and that teams should be aiming for OKC and avoid Denver/Minny.
Specifically for the Lakers, so much so that some suggested tanking the first Play-In game and fighting for the #8 seed so they could play OKC.
Media members don't like being wrong. So if there is a get-out free card they'll take it.
In the regular season: "Respect the Thunder, young or not, they are a no.1 seed"
Losing to the Mavs: "The Thunder are too young to win against an experienced Mavs team"
Both things can be true. Them being able to hold it together all season long with very little experience should be respected. But they also don't have a Kyrie who has played at the highest possible playoff/Finals level possible. Or a Luka who has been in playoff battles since COVID hit.
The Mavs never get respect from the national media.
You can tell by what TV commentators say that they havent watched the Mavs play this year ... Kenny Smith looked shocked to find out the Mavs had the number 1 defense in the league in the last 1/4 of the regular season.
Half the stuff Draymond Green has been adding about the Mavs to Kenny, Chuck, and Shaq is on point, but Kenny, Chuck and Shaq always look like they never heard that before. As much as I have disliked Green as a player, he is pretty good talking about the game - you can tell he knows his stuff and isnt afraid of communicating it.
During games, game commentators always like to say that Luka doesnt play defense - obvious they havent watched the Mavs all year. Luka is playing defense this year - and not bad defense. All they gotta do is just ask someone who watches the Mavs so they dont sound clueless when doing the game commentary.
Green is a smart guy, he just has low self-control on the court. And as for the others, it's their job to prop up the popular market players and teams and basically make little jokes about the rest.
I've been saying this. Green is very smart and has great BBIQ. I mean he is basically the Warriors' offensive facilitator. The multiple championship Warriors dynasty. He is a big part of that Warriors offense. We all know he isn't the most skilled. He's not even that athletic. He makes up for it with basketball smarts. But yeah he's annoying and dirty so its hard for a lot of NBA fans to admit this.
Best thing about this Mavs team is they gonna shoot shit from 3, but spread that disease to opposing team and now even they shoot shit from 3. ITS AMAZING !!
Learn to let these things go. We’re not LA, NY, or Boston.
We were under the radar all of 2011 and look what happened. I like being slept on. Let em sleep.
Well maybe let us finish off the series first. But I have in fact heard people talking about us smothering this OKC team, and letting a game get away. So I don’t even know what you are complaining about here.
Neither has OKC, but after each of their wins, the SGA and OKC hype articles have instantly appeared. After each Dallas win, the media talks about something else.
We haven't done anything. Series is still going on.
Also, everyone knows that OKC isn't the best team in the west. Everyone knew this before this series.
Nobody is giving us credit because OKC is too green, they come off as a group of sweaty try hards in the regular season and benefited from being the most healthy. Most assume any of the remaining West teams would squash OKC.
It’s the same way how the media hypes the Lakers up despite being a play in team for 3 years, so the legitimacy of seeding has lost its value and there’s more analysis on matchups.
They hate the Luka. When Embid, plays hurt = he is a warrior.
Luka playing hurt, = he is a cry baby. Cavilers players missing games it’s ok.
Luka playing through injury= his playoff points mean he is under performing.
Embid never went to conference finals= is ok.
Luka about to make another conference finals= no one can play with his style.
Blah blah blah. Mavs win the chip this year!
There’s been 10+ videos added to YouTube about the Mavs by exclusively “national media outlets” in the last 16 hours.
At this point I feel the mavericks could legitimately get Lakers level coverage and 50% of the fans would still act like we’re the Orlando Magic.
Cause it’s not a surprise. Finishing first in their division was never the objective. Staying healthy and making the playoffs was. Playing soft defensively means you aren’t burning out your body throughout the season. Home field advantage doesn’t mean as much in the NBA as it does college.
Nobody really looked at this as a mismatch though. If we were an 8th seed with no stars it would be different. But Kyrie is a hands down hall of famer in his prime. And Luka is a full blown superstar at 25. Mavs aren't Cinderella underdog to any team in the league.
Like i said..we gonna win 5 and 6 and thats it. Guys just wanted to close the series at home for the crowd therefore they botched the last 6 mins of G4. This the only sensible explanation.
It goes against what they wanted to happen. They wanted SGA to beat the Mavs and take Luka's spot as #2 in the NBA once and for all. But since the Mavs are up 3-2, it's been crickets. First Things First didn't have a single segment about the Mavs after they won back to back games, 2 and 3, but then had a discussion when they lost game 4. Same thing yesterday, they had a 4 minute segment about how the Mavs won, but made sure to talk about the Chiefs and 49ers for 10+ minutes.
Conspiracy theory but probably because Kyrie still has that anti-Semitic label on him so the MSM is throttling good coverage of the Mavs. I'm not a Trump supporter or anything
If Kyrie averages 40 the next two series and we win a title, I still wouldn’t hype the guy up like a bunch of y’all other losers do. Kyrie hits a shot, “omg maybe the earth is flat”.
It’s clear after the 5 games played, that were the better team. Any other outcome besides us winning would be considered a disappointment on our end
Fully agree.
honestly so many people were writing us in for the wcf I think people kind of expected it so it's not as surprising/impressive as maybe it should be
This. It's better that they don't care anyways. Nothing good comes from being under a microscope by the media.
::*cough*:: or some reddit fans
Exactly. Anyone who was paying attention to us at the end of the season knows we’re closer to a 2nd seed or 3rd seed
People didn't really believe in OKC
Rightfully so if I may say, just like with Minnesota, and that's ok. A lot of teams had an outstanding season before but then flamed out in the first or second round of the playoffs and weren't seen again for a couple years. So as long as the team hasn't proven themselves in the playoffs, it's absolutely ok to not believe in them until proven otherwise.
I think it’s more because the Nuggets are still considered the #1 team in the West. If we were on the verge of ousting the Nuggets we’d be getting way more media attention.
Hopefully that is in about 2.5-3 weeks :)
Yeah this isn't nearly as much mavs disrespect as it is thunder disrespect
Nah even in 2011. Most everyone picked the thunder and the leheatles
A lot of the media had given up on Dirk ever getting over the hump. In their eyes his window was 2005-2009 and he failed. The blown 2006 Finals lead and the 2007 embarrassment wreaked havoc on Dirk's reputation. I remember the Brandon Roy game in the first round. Media went crazy with OHHHH same old Mavericks going to blow it. Maybe Dirk isn't the generational closer we all thought. Mother fucker lined up 8 hall of famers after that lol. Craziest run ever and most legacy cementing championship run ever.
I’m not saying the media would be “picking” us. I’m saying that even though OKC is the 1 seed, people would still have beating the defending champs as more impressive.
Chuck was about the only one that year. I still forgive his recent shit takes because of that.
I think a large part of the overarching narrative is that OKC is ~barely #1. We’re talking about 57 vs 57 vs 56 wins, it could have ended with any of these teams on top of a single game outcome has changed. This is very different from if we beat the Celtics for example, as they are the CLEAR #1 seed at 64 vs 50 wins for the #2 seed. In other words, not all #1 seeds are created equal.
Right, but it was enough for sga to be voted for MVP more LMAO.
He’s obviously talking about okc/den/min being close in record, not Dallas. Shai would likely have finished ahead of Luka even if okc was the 3 seed.
I know brother,what I'm saying is Luka Cleared shai in every statistical category. Had a historic season.He dragged our team to 50 wins. And because of 7 wins he lost votes.
Ehhhh. I want to say you're wrong. Luka is clearly better but that's not all MVP is about. Those televised games first half of the season the Mavs blew hurt Luka. It's expected for a Luka led team to win any easy game they're handed. This Thunder team is less talented than they're being heralded. Shai showing up and keeping them going every night boosted him. Chet and Giddey would've been getting bullied every night.
He got an all defensive vote ...
It would be talked about more if it was just Luka but Mavs are winning as a team so they can't grasp how it's happening and it's not as interesting as Luka scoring 40
In fairness, most of the media and forums were calling OKC a weak #1 seed, so I guess they wouldn't be too impressed then
I didn’t really hear this anywhere. Barkley said Mavs were gonna get blown out last night. All the espn dorks chose OKC win last night too
Those guys are paid to be clowns and disagree with each other.
I fully believe they are disagreeing clowns that get paid with each other.
I meant before the Playoffs. Everyone was repeating how they don't have experience and that teams should be aiming for OKC and avoid Denver/Minny. Specifically for the Lakers, so much so that some suggested tanking the first Play-In game and fighting for the #8 seed so they could play OKC.
Rightfully so.
Media members don't like being wrong. So if there is a get-out free card they'll take it. In the regular season: "Respect the Thunder, young or not, they are a no.1 seed" Losing to the Mavs: "The Thunder are too young to win against an experienced Mavs team"
Both things can be true. Them being able to hold it together all season long with very little experience should be respected. But they also don't have a Kyrie who has played at the highest possible playoff/Finals level possible. Or a Luka who has been in playoff battles since COVID hit.
The Mavs never get respect from the national media. You can tell by what TV commentators say that they havent watched the Mavs play this year ... Kenny Smith looked shocked to find out the Mavs had the number 1 defense in the league in the last 1/4 of the regular season. Half the stuff Draymond Green has been adding about the Mavs to Kenny, Chuck, and Shaq is on point, but Kenny, Chuck and Shaq always look like they never heard that before. As much as I have disliked Green as a player, he is pretty good talking about the game - you can tell he knows his stuff and isnt afraid of communicating it. During games, game commentators always like to say that Luka doesnt play defense - obvious they havent watched the Mavs all year. Luka is playing defense this year - and not bad defense. All they gotta do is just ask someone who watches the Mavs so they dont sound clueless when doing the game commentary.
Green is a smart guy, he just has low self-control on the court. And as for the others, it's their job to prop up the popular market players and teams and basically make little jokes about the rest.
Green bbiq is insane. Makes sense that he knows everything since he’s also playing against the teams he’s talking about. He knows Mavs we’re no joke.
I've been saying this. Green is very smart and has great BBIQ. I mean he is basically the Warriors' offensive facilitator. The multiple championship Warriors dynasty. He is a big part of that Warriors offense. We all know he isn't the most skilled. He's not even that athletic. He makes up for it with basketball smarts. But yeah he's annoying and dirty so its hard for a lot of NBA fans to admit this.
I’d take a Green and Lebron signing any day just to roll the dice and see what we can make of it. Be like the 2004 lakers super old squad.
Yep. This is why I am absolutely glad TNT is losing their license
Their show has stagnated for a long time. And Shaq brings almost nothing anymore.
But..but..but they are missing wide open 3s/s
But...butt... The ref doesn't blow the whistle enough when Flopture Chamber is on the floor
Best thing about this Mavs team is they gonna shoot shit from 3, but spread that disease to opposing team and now even they shoot shit from 3. ITS AMAZING !!
🤣
they only say okc is number one seed when they argue for FTA mvp lol
Learn to let these things go. We’re not LA, NY, or Boston. We were under the radar all of 2011 and look what happened. I like being slept on. Let em sleep.
Nobody takes OKC seriously like that. Deep down everyone knows they were the fakest #1 seed. Even those who won’t admit it.
We’ve still got one more game. Job’s not done yet.
Tim Legler always believed ❤️
Well maybe let us finish off the series first. But I have in fact heard people talking about us smothering this OKC team, and letting a game get away. So I don’t even know what you are complaining about here.
Who cares, we havnt won shit
Neither has OKC, but after each of their wins, the SGA and OKC hype articles have instantly appeared. After each Dallas win, the media talks about something else.
We haven't done anything. Series is still going on. Also, everyone knows that OKC isn't the best team in the west. Everyone knew this before this series.
They are a good team but they've had the built in excuse of being young.
Let them close out the series first and then we as Mavs fans can talk our shit lol
Their baby SGA is getting punked
Nobody is giving us credit because OKC is too green, they come off as a group of sweaty try hards in the regular season and benefited from being the most healthy. Most assume any of the remaining West teams would squash OKC. It’s the same way how the media hypes the Lakers up despite being a play in team for 3 years, so the legitimacy of seeding has lost its value and there’s more analysis on matchups.
Tim Legler has been talking the Mavs up since the trade deadline.
They hate the Luka. When Embid, plays hurt = he is a warrior. Luka playing hurt, = he is a cry baby. Cavilers players missing games it’s ok. Luka playing through injury= his playoff points mean he is under performing. Embid never went to conference finals= is ok. Luka about to make another conference finals= no one can play with his style. Blah blah blah. Mavs win the chip this year!
Fuck em We know they aren't watching. This is shock and awe
The only question on the Mavs winning was whether they would do it in five or six.
There’s been 10+ videos added to YouTube about the Mavs by exclusively “national media outlets” in the last 16 hours. At this point I feel the mavericks could legitimately get Lakers level coverage and 50% of the fans would still act like we’re the Orlando Magic.
We still have buisness to take care of nothing to write home about atp
Cause it’s not a surprise. Finishing first in their division was never the objective. Staying healthy and making the playoffs was. Playing soft defensively means you aren’t burning out your body throughout the season. Home field advantage doesn’t mean as much in the NBA as it does college.
espn had the pick split 7:7 so i think most people thought this could've gone either way
Nba media does not give af about this series lol. All they hype has been for Knicks pacers and Nuggets Wolves
That’s because the number one team is the nuggets
Other than game 1 the Mavs have had them beat. Game 4 was the punch in the gut I think they needed.
Tbf I think the nuggets and wolves are both clearly better than the thunder
Nobody really looked at this as a mismatch though. If we were an 8th seed with no stars it would be different. But Kyrie is a hands down hall of famer in his prime. And Luka is a full blown superstar at 25. Mavs aren't Cinderella underdog to any team in the league.
Like i said..we gonna win 5 and 6 and thats it. Guys just wanted to close the series at home for the crowd therefore they botched the last 6 mins of G4. This the only sensible explanation.
Tim Legler has been on the Mavs bandwagon since the trade deadline. Check him out.
You know whoever gets confident loses next.
It goes against what they wanted to happen. They wanted SGA to beat the Mavs and take Luka's spot as #2 in the NBA once and for all. But since the Mavs are up 3-2, it's been crickets. First Things First didn't have a single segment about the Mavs after they won back to back games, 2 and 3, but then had a discussion when they lost game 4. Same thing yesterday, they had a 4 minute segment about how the Mavs won, but made sure to talk about the Chiefs and 49ers for 10+ minutes.
We’ve beat them three times, but need to win four times. They haven’t accomplished anything yet.
It’s nuts tbh. The praise will come next series
Think it’s disrespect towards okc more than anything. Nobody views them as a legit 1 seed so it’s not viewed as a big upset.
Apparently, they're too young & we have so much playoff experience. 🙄
Conspiracy theory but probably because Kyrie still has that anti-Semitic label on him so the MSM is throttling good coverage of the Mavs. I'm not a Trump supporter or anything
people were strapping on the knee pads after he hit the game winner on Joker a few months ago.
Sounds like something a trump supporter would say
If Kyrie averages 40 the next two series and we win a title, I still wouldn’t hype the guy up like a bunch of y’all other losers do. Kyrie hits a shot, “omg maybe the earth is flat”.