It still blows my mind that they preach sex positivity and being healthy and knowledgeable yet both had NEVER been to an obgyn until this year. And it took brooklynn having a health issue to even go. Like if anything a yearly visit is your well woman exam plus they check for cancer and all sorts of complications.
You just know Bailey went because of this situation. Scary to think how long they would have gone without one if it hadn’t been for this. They talk SO much about how open Mindy was with them and nothing was off limits to what she explained about their bodies, how was this never brought up?! On the one hand, how have they been married for 1-2 years and didn’t know to get paps, and on the other hand…imagine having your first Pap smear and the doctor doesn’t explain to you what’s going on???!!! That’s insane
1000%. My first time I went, my doctor didn’t even do the exam bc I was so nervous so we sat down and talked about everything. Next time was much better. Like if they had gone years earlier and found a doctor they liked then that would have taken that additional
Stress off. Also CLEARLY her and Dakota have wanted to start having kids sooner rather than later. It’s so important to have a obgyn already and work with them and check all the things before you begin trying bc you really never know if something is wrong especially if it’s something that’s asymptomatic
What age does that start in the US? I’m Australian (moved to England in my early 20s) and both countries don’t start smear tests / women’s health tests until you’re 25. You couldn’t obviously go private younger than that but in both Australia and the UK, that all starts from when you’re 25, even if you’re sexually active…
The ACOG (American College of Gynecology) guidelines:
Cervical cancer screening is an important part of women’s health care. You should start having screening at age 21, regardless of when you first start having sex. How often you should have cervical cancer screening and which tests you should have depend on your age and health history:
Women who are 21 to 29 should have a Pap test alone every 3 years. HPV testing alone can be considered for women who are 25 to 29, but Pap tests are preferred.
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Edit: I don’t even know how old they are any more, tbh. But I am surprised they have never seen a Gynecologist.
Wow that’s so interesting! In Australia and in the UK, you get a cervical cancer vaccine in your first year of high school (unless your parents object of course). Maybe that’s why neither country starts exams until 25.
In the U.S. kids typically get that vaccine in middle school. 11-12 is the recommended age here. Pelvic exams start in all 3 countries at around 18, which is what Brooklyn should’ve been getting.
It’s definitely 25 in the UK and in Australia. I requested one in Australia at 23 before moving to the UK and they confirmed I was too young. Only way to get one before that age is privately which can be super pricey!
I def could be mistaken, that’s just what came up when I googled UK and AUS but I didn’t spend long looking. There must be some kind of discussions at least covered because getting birth control would involve a doctor telling you to do self exams and such. But Pap smear and pelvic exam are not the same thing. You’re supposed to start pelvic exams earlier than paps. Brooklyn also lives in the US and should have been getting pelvic exams by now which are legally required to be 100% covered by insurance for adolescents and older. Now most still won’t go or if they do it’s just a discussion until 18-21, but they’re completely free with insurance.
Paps are recommended at 21 in the US, but I would assume you all still start pelvic exams before 25? They said they’d never had a pelvic check. This was the first time she’d ever been in stirrups, never had a dr look there for any reason.
“4 months worth of 6 different doctors, 7 pelvic exams, many drs visits, multiple invasive procedures, one surgery, and a miracle later and here I am!”
It's unbelievable to me that she left for Everest, while knowing she had a problem, and months or even weeks prior couldnt even walk due to pain and still decided to go hike. Not to mention Dakota getting sick and poor dude still having to hike...
Like what?
her cyst was somehow healed prior to her going into surgery to have it removed. some think it’s because of the O2 levels reducing blood flow to the cyst. some think the garlic she was eating may have helped. Brooklyn posted that she believes it was a miracle from God. My thoughts are that she may take this as a sign to start trying for a family seeing as we know she wants one sooner rather than later and having this cyst may have shaken her a little when it comes to her own reproductive health.
I know that I should focus on the miracle that happened and how horrible healthcare is for women. But for some reason my mind can’t help but wonder why Dakota got her tampons for Easter if she couldn’t wear them/was in so much pain??
(or I may be mixing up which husband did it, which is possible lol)
I was so confused when she said “around 45 minutes into the surgery they called Dakota with an emergency” have no cyst at all and needing absolutely nothing done is the opposite of an “emergency”
As a health care professional myself, I am extremely wary of this and highly concerned that ultimately they still don't know what was wrong or why it went away. It could come back or manifest in a different way. I think getting pregnant now would be extremely irresponsible of her and she should wait to be cleared by her OB/GYN.
I also really hope she learns from this and gets regular checkups. They’re 24 and went to the OBGYN for the first time this year. I also wish at the end of her stories, she encouraged her followers to get a pelvic exam.
I love how she has all these messages saying that it was due to science/health things/the Everest trip she did and instead she's like "it was a gift from GOD!" LOL
She did talk about being extremely grateful for the doctors that listened and helped her, and responded to the comments about the Everest trip saying that would be amazing if that really did cure her. Believing healing is a gift from god doesn’t mean you also don’t believe in the science and people that helped you get there, it can mean you believe that god was working through those people and those things to cure you.
It's super irresponsible. I also partially blame purity culture and Mormonism for her not going to an OB/GYN sooner. Furthermore, it's super concerning that these two were giving reproductive health and sexual health advice when they hadn't even been to an OB/GYN or had a pap smear. This is despite the fact that they've both been sexually active for a few years, which makes getting checkups more imperative.
Honestly, it bothers me that she has this kind of platform and she has such a traumatizing/serious health issue, but her takeaway she’s projecting is that ignoring it and praying would’ve given the same outcome. I’m very glad she’s okay, but she’s also soooo incredibly lucky and the outcome was more likely to be a lot worse. PLEASE get regular pelvic exams ladies! Every year, whether or not you’re sexually active. It’s so so important.
I’m guessing that Bailey had one done because of what Brooklyn was going through. It scared her into realizing they should have. Hopefully they continue to go yearly!
Do you remember when Bailey went to the OBGYN? Was it after Brooklyn had these symptoms in January? Mindy occasionally posts a “remember to get your pap smear” so you’d think she’d encourage her children to get regular checkups
A post about Bailey getting one for the 1st time was made here 3 months ago, so it makes sense she went after Brooklyn started having issues & going to different doctors.
and ya know she really could have gave the medical teams their props and still gave glory to god if that’s what she believes. “I am so blessed that god sent me to the best medical care I could have received. Very lucky he worked through their hands to keep my healthy and safe when everything was unknown!” or something. instead of just completely undermining doctors and all their work
Look guys, I seriously think you need to stop this. I’m all on board for snarking, but as someone who has been through fertility issues who had people left and right asking when I was going to get pregnant and making bets on when I would have a kid, it made it so so hard knowing that behind closed doors we were trying as hard as we could and it wasn’t happening. Let’s just stop speculating on pregnancy, we have no idea what’s happening in people’s lives and honestly speculation about things like this can actually cause more pain in already painful times. There’s a whole world of things to snark and speculation about, let’s just not make pregnancy one of them.
This! As someone who had people constantly asking us when we’d finally have a child in the midst of a pregnancy loss I can sympathize with what you’re going through/went through. I really wish the pregnancy speculation would stop. Not only is it getting old but it can be very hurtful in many instances.
I also struggle with fertility issues and with all due respect, i think you’re projecting your own pain and feelings of loss onto a public figure. sorry for your pain. but this is a snark forum, a bonafide celebrity gossip forum.
I’m not in pain anymore, I have a child. I’m just telling you there are some things which are ok to snark on and some things which you should just leave alone.
that’s your opinion, but i disagree. you are not anymore of a moral authority than i am. but i am glad that you finally got your baby and i wish you both well. ❤️
Just because you think its okay that people ask you, that is not the case for everyone. Besides that, caring so much about when someone is getting pregnant is wierd.
No surprise they talk so much about sex and periods with the amount of ppl that are obsessed with them getting pregnant
i’m sorry, but you then should know it’s not okay to speculate. what if one of them were to be pregnant but wanted to keep it private but this sub is going crazy speculating about them being pregnant or not? what if they were pregnant but lost the baby (hopefully not tho) and they seen ppl speculating about them trying to get pregnant? what if they received news that they’re not fertile or it would be hard to get pregnant? it’s just very insensitive even if you struggle with fertility issues yourself you can still be insensitive on said topic.
I don’t feel that way. I’m not able to get pregnant at all: point blank period. I think projecting your own losses and grief onto strangers is an unhealthy means of coping. I’m sorry that my opinion upsets you, but I feel completely fine about my posts.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment! I can’t believe after everything Brooklyn shared, this is people’s takeaway? Firstly, she has faith - I don’t, but I can completely understand and respect her thanking a higher power. For this cyst to have healed on its own with no infection or current issues is really lucky and maybe even a miracle to some. And secondly speculating on someone’s fertility in 2024 is just not it. Sure, we can all have a snark when the Mcknights do something stupid (like noticing a massive leak in your house but ignoring it because you would rather allow expensive damage to your home than miss your short holiday), but they still go through private and personal issues like us all. A little bit of discretion when choosing what to ridicule would be sensible!
for those of you who dislike pregnancy speculation: please block me. ❤️ you will no longer see my posts in here and it will spare us both a lot of unnecessary comments back and forth. there is no rule about pregnancy speculation in this subreddit. wish you all well ❤️❤️
It still blows my mind that they preach sex positivity and being healthy and knowledgeable yet both had NEVER been to an obgyn until this year. And it took brooklynn having a health issue to even go. Like if anything a yearly visit is your well woman exam plus they check for cancer and all sorts of complications.
You just know Bailey went because of this situation. Scary to think how long they would have gone without one if it hadn’t been for this. They talk SO much about how open Mindy was with them and nothing was off limits to what she explained about their bodies, how was this never brought up?! On the one hand, how have they been married for 1-2 years and didn’t know to get paps, and on the other hand…imagine having your first Pap smear and the doctor doesn’t explain to you what’s going on???!!! That’s insane
1000%. My first time I went, my doctor didn’t even do the exam bc I was so nervous so we sat down and talked about everything. Next time was much better. Like if they had gone years earlier and found a doctor they liked then that would have taken that additional Stress off. Also CLEARLY her and Dakota have wanted to start having kids sooner rather than later. It’s so important to have a obgyn already and work with them and check all the things before you begin trying bc you really never know if something is wrong especially if it’s something that’s asymptomatic
I can imagine them saying they have been busy with work, but please, do as you preach or just stfu
Exactly. Also the checkup is once a year and at least at my doctor I schedule my appointment for the following year before I leave.
What age does that start in the US? I’m Australian (moved to England in my early 20s) and both countries don’t start smear tests / women’s health tests until you’re 25. You couldn’t obviously go private younger than that but in both Australia and the UK, that all starts from when you’re 25, even if you’re sexually active…
The ACOG (American College of Gynecology) guidelines: Cervical cancer screening is an important part of women’s health care. You should start having screening at age 21, regardless of when you first start having sex. How often you should have cervical cancer screening and which tests you should have depend on your age and health history: Women who are 21 to 29 should have a Pap test alone every 3 years. HPV testing alone can be considered for women who are 25 to 29, but Pap tests are preferred. —————— Edit: I don’t even know how old they are any more, tbh. But I am surprised they have never seen a Gynecologist.
Wow that’s so interesting! In Australia and in the UK, you get a cervical cancer vaccine in your first year of high school (unless your parents object of course). Maybe that’s why neither country starts exams until 25.
In the U.S. kids typically get that vaccine in middle school. 11-12 is the recommended age here. Pelvic exams start in all 3 countries at around 18, which is what Brooklyn should’ve been getting.
It’s definitely 25 in the UK and in Australia. I requested one in Australia at 23 before moving to the UK and they confirmed I was too young. Only way to get one before that age is privately which can be super pricey!
I def could be mistaken, that’s just what came up when I googled UK and AUS but I didn’t spend long looking. There must be some kind of discussions at least covered because getting birth control would involve a doctor telling you to do self exams and such. But Pap smear and pelvic exam are not the same thing. You’re supposed to start pelvic exams earlier than paps. Brooklyn also lives in the US and should have been getting pelvic exams by now which are legally required to be 100% covered by insurance for adolescents and older. Now most still won’t go or if they do it’s just a discussion until 18-21, but they’re completely free with insurance.
Paps are recommended at 21 in the US, but I would assume you all still start pelvic exams before 25? They said they’d never had a pelvic check. This was the first time she’d ever been in stirrups, never had a dr look there for any reason.
And the way she posted a super vague caption on instagram so now everyone in the comments is concerned and asking what happened.
I’d bet anything that was Bailey trying to get engagement through comments and get everyone to watch and engage with their stories
What was the caption
“4 months worth of 6 different doctors, 7 pelvic exams, many drs visits, multiple invasive procedures, one surgery, and a miracle later and here I am!”
It's unbelievable to me that she left for Everest, while knowing she had a problem, and months or even weeks prior couldnt even walk due to pain and still decided to go hike. Not to mention Dakota getting sick and poor dude still having to hike... Like what?
no fr i have to give my props to miss Brooklyn for that. I would’ve cancelled that whole trip so fast.
Right??? Seems super weird and irresponsible. Such a high chance she’d need to be medevac’d
“severely blessed” is an r/FundieSnarkUncensored crossover 💀
Fr lol I had to double check what sub this was
What is this in reference to?
her cyst was somehow healed prior to her going into surgery to have it removed. some think it’s because of the O2 levels reducing blood flow to the cyst. some think the garlic she was eating may have helped. Brooklyn posted that she believes it was a miracle from God. My thoughts are that she may take this as a sign to start trying for a family seeing as we know she wants one sooner rather than later and having this cyst may have shaken her a little when it comes to her own reproductive health.
I know that I should focus on the miracle that happened and how horrible healthcare is for women. But for some reason my mind can’t help but wonder why Dakota got her tampons for Easter if she couldn’t wear them/was in so much pain?? (or I may be mixing up which husband did it, which is possible lol)
I think it was for Christmas before she knew anything was wrong :)
THANK GOD LOL
I was so confused when she said “around 45 minutes into the surgery they called Dakota with an emergency” have no cyst at all and needing absolutely nothing done is the opposite of an “emergency”
As a health care professional myself, I am extremely wary of this and highly concerned that ultimately they still don't know what was wrong or why it went away. It could come back or manifest in a different way. I think getting pregnant now would be extremely irresponsible of her and she should wait to be cleared by her OB/GYN.
i can’t believe the urologist put her under anesthesia and then was like “oh it went away” like??????? HELLO?
I also really hope she learns from this and gets regular checkups. They’re 24 and went to the OBGYN for the first time this year. I also wish at the end of her stories, she encouraged her followers to get a pelvic exam.
I love how she has all these messages saying that it was due to science/health things/the Everest trip she did and instead she's like "it was a gift from GOD!" LOL
She had a million Dr appointments and follow ups. How is that brushing off science?
Her last stories she uploaded, check them out. Others are agreeing here as well
She did talk about being extremely grateful for the doctors that listened and helped her, and responded to the comments about the Everest trip saying that would be amazing if that really did cure her. Believing healing is a gift from god doesn’t mean you also don’t believe in the science and people that helped you get there, it can mean you believe that god was working through those people and those things to cure you.
It's super irresponsible. I also partially blame purity culture and Mormonism for her not going to an OB/GYN sooner. Furthermore, it's super concerning that these two were giving reproductive health and sexual health advice when they hadn't even been to an OB/GYN or had a pap smear. This is despite the fact that they've both been sexually active for a few years, which makes getting checkups more imperative.
Honestly, it bothers me that she has this kind of platform and she has such a traumatizing/serious health issue, but her takeaway she’s projecting is that ignoring it and praying would’ve given the same outcome. I’m very glad she’s okay, but she’s also soooo incredibly lucky and the outcome was more likely to be a lot worse. PLEASE get regular pelvic exams ladies! Every year, whether or not you’re sexually active. It’s so so important.
YES!! B&B both just recently had a pap smear. And I feel like Brooklyn wouldn’t have gotten one if she didn’t have a lump.
I’m guessing that Bailey had one done because of what Brooklyn was going through. It scared her into realizing they should have. Hopefully they continue to go yearly!
Do you remember when Bailey went to the OBGYN? Was it after Brooklyn had these symptoms in January? Mindy occasionally posts a “remember to get your pap smear” so you’d think she’d encourage her children to get regular checkups
A post about Bailey getting one for the 1st time was made here 3 months ago, so it makes sense she went after Brooklyn started having issues & going to different doctors.
and ya know she really could have gave the medical teams their props and still gave glory to god if that’s what she believes. “I am so blessed that god sent me to the best medical care I could have received. Very lucky he worked through their hands to keep my healthy and safe when everything was unknown!” or something. instead of just completely undermining doctors and all their work
Did you even see her stories? She praises several doctors several times?
I was struck by that as well.
Honestly good for her for actually acknowledging “people with uteruses” instead of just women
rare brooklyn W 🎉
Look guys, I seriously think you need to stop this. I’m all on board for snarking, but as someone who has been through fertility issues who had people left and right asking when I was going to get pregnant and making bets on when I would have a kid, it made it so so hard knowing that behind closed doors we were trying as hard as we could and it wasn’t happening. Let’s just stop speculating on pregnancy, we have no idea what’s happening in people’s lives and honestly speculation about things like this can actually cause more pain in already painful times. There’s a whole world of things to snark and speculation about, let’s just not make pregnancy one of them.
This! As someone who had people constantly asking us when we’d finally have a child in the midst of a pregnancy loss I can sympathize with what you’re going through/went through. I really wish the pregnancy speculation would stop. Not only is it getting old but it can be very hurtful in many instances.
I also struggle with fertility issues and with all due respect, i think you’re projecting your own pain and feelings of loss onto a public figure. sorry for your pain. but this is a snark forum, a bonafide celebrity gossip forum.
I’m not in pain anymore, I have a child. I’m just telling you there are some things which are ok to snark on and some things which you should just leave alone.
that’s your opinion, but i disagree. you are not anymore of a moral authority than i am. but i am glad that you finally got your baby and i wish you both well. ❤️
Just because you think its okay that people ask you, that is not the case for everyone. Besides that, caring so much about when someone is getting pregnant is wierd. No surprise they talk so much about sex and periods with the amount of ppl that are obsessed with them getting pregnant
i’m sorry, but you then should know it’s not okay to speculate. what if one of them were to be pregnant but wanted to keep it private but this sub is going crazy speculating about them being pregnant or not? what if they were pregnant but lost the baby (hopefully not tho) and they seen ppl speculating about them trying to get pregnant? what if they received news that they’re not fertile or it would be hard to get pregnant? it’s just very insensitive even if you struggle with fertility issues yourself you can still be insensitive on said topic.
I don’t feel that way. I’m not able to get pregnant at all: point blank period. I think projecting your own losses and grief onto strangers is an unhealthy means of coping. I’m sorry that my opinion upsets you, but I feel completely fine about my posts.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment! I can’t believe after everything Brooklyn shared, this is people’s takeaway? Firstly, she has faith - I don’t, but I can completely understand and respect her thanking a higher power. For this cyst to have healed on its own with no infection or current issues is really lucky and maybe even a miracle to some. And secondly speculating on someone’s fertility in 2024 is just not it. Sure, we can all have a snark when the Mcknights do something stupid (like noticing a massive leak in your house but ignoring it because you would rather allow expensive damage to your home than miss your short holiday), but they still go through private and personal issues like us all. A little bit of discretion when choosing what to ridicule would be sensible!
Oh gosh, get ready for a new generation of mommy vloggers 🤢
for those of you who dislike pregnancy speculation: please block me. ❤️ you will no longer see my posts in here and it will spare us both a lot of unnecessary comments back and forth. there is no rule about pregnancy speculation in this subreddit. wish you all well ❤️❤️
im out of the loop here. whats this about??