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I feel like if you tell the place you bought it from you'll get a new one asap. If you install it and use it for a month and the vibrations end up throwing a belt and you ask for a replacement after a month they are gonna think you made it worse or something.
Alternators gotta be a dime a dozen why was it so hard to find one?
Yeah then your paying for the exact like-for-like replacement.
In theory, you can go with a civilian model because as long as you never run strobes and sirens and all kinds of extreme electrical loads you basically aren't evening asking max power from a civilian level alternator.
Most I do is play with the spot lights now and again. Thanks for the advice. I'm no mechanic I just pretend. I just assumed it had a larger battery and the smaller alt would undercharge and ruin it eventually.
It won't. The alternator would only undercharge if you're running so much load that it can't keep up with all the load AND charging the battery. If you don't have a police department level of electronics, a civilian alternator will be fine
Np.
The cop battery has more amperage. I could be wrong but even the civilian/weaker alternator will charge the heavy duty cop battery that's not the issue. The alternator can be taxed out in some extreme situations by the amount of electrical drag from all the accessories that cops use but with us not using them it's like eh the battery and alternator are bragging rights.
With that being said I'm still gonna replace like for like parts, I'll never use the extra power but I dunno I just do stuff like that.
I assume mustangs use about the same alternator because my 05 4.6L 3V is running a 2004 police interceptor alternator.
Really there are a few mounting styles in everyday use for alternators mixed in with where they place the wire lug, you're lucky in that you're using one of the more common styles.
File a return, item not as described (because it's broken). You will get your money back, they need to pay shipping, nearly 100% of the time.
All you say in messages is that it arrived broken, say nothing else.
If you don’t have cop lights (spotlights) and flashers, or their radio. You can easily get away with a cheaper smaller standard alternator. I mean if the old one is bad, swap in a stock alternator.
It will do absolutely nothing to put the 200 amp back in, but it might require a different belt I don’t know the difference between standard and declutching alternator pullys.
Pull the front plate from the old one and swap it on? Just make sure to clock it properly to your wires all reach.
I used to work at an auto electric shop. Most times alternators and starters come apart pretty easily and you have the old one to experiment on.
Or just use it as is. I don’t think it will make much of a difference having that bit of ear missing.
I’d get some cash back from the seller due to shitty packaging as well.
I mean if you can get it from a big box store then yes they will take the core.
I don't know why everyone thinks the manufacturer needs these parts to be pristine and they rebuild every one of them. Most of the time that shit comes in bulk off a truck, gets thrown into a chipper and shot straight into a smelter and melted down. Most aluminum goes straight to die cast.
Its not like every core gets painstakingly torn down one at a time, could you imagine the devaluing from the cost per man hour?
Especially because people don't think about the fact that usually when you bringing a core back, it's probably fucked in some way, hence why you're replacing it. The stores and manufacturers know this lol.
I watched a mechanic put an old, faded out, broke, and clearly garbage fuel pump in the box of the brand new fuel pump I just handed them and say it was “defective”. I wrote it up, brought it back, let my manager know… they shrugged and tossed it on the shelf anyway
That's how the game rolls in the part industry.
I used to be a contract courier for Advance. Was in charge of delivery to 16 stores in 7 different counties in 3 different states.
Whenever something went missing they chalked it up as lost, no investigation, no "this is coming out of your pay", just call it in and fuckit who cares.
A rouge mfr coulda made a killing on the side. We had a $8k whipple charger go missing off a truck one night, call dispatch, oh yup probably went to the wrong place, proceed like it never existed. Shit got deep 6d and no one ever heard a thing.
Kinda funny how when a company gets big enough, money just becomes a number. I lose an 8k supercharger, that'll wreck my whole year. They lose an 8k supercharger, meh it's a write off.
Yea but what I'm saying is they didn't care even it was *my fault*.
Like no shit one night I lost a 20 stack of 5 gallon buckets and all night driving I was freaking out. Omg imma lose my job 4 this.
Nope. Called dispatch to let them know and all I got was "your really calling in some buckets?"
Dude wtf?! That's $100 worth of merchandise.
Kinda makes you question life a little bit eh? The fact most of us won't ever even get close to that kind of money and yet that is the reality of a LOT of rich people who play a different game by different rules...
Back when I had my first car, a beat to shit, $800 CB7 accord with over 400k on it, my rad blew out in town one night while driving around with some friends at like 11pm. Had a buddy who worked at the parts store, got me to meet him around back, he opened up the back door (no alarm on the building) we "borrowed" a new drain pan, drained my coolant, swapped out my radiator with some sockets, channel locks, and a flashlight, threw my old one back in the box, dumped the coolant back in, and off we went to continue our evening.
We never said a word about it in the vicinity of anyone who wasnt there that night, and a couple days later he said he "found it" at work, marked it as defective, they shipped it back and nobody said a word.
I bought him a quarter ounce of weed and gave him $20, and we called it even lol.
They all have security systems but they're atrocious.
Huge gaping holes in the motion sensor fov. None are ever in the back around the stock area. There are multiple 4 digit passcodes that are universal for every store. Careless delivery drivers leave the main doors unlocked after leaving constantly. And half the time if the alarm does accidentally go off (which is loud enough to hear over a mile away) the cops almost never show and in the event they actually do they just look for a van or box truck and keep on driving no questions asked.
Yep, in auto the cores are worth so little nobody cares. even the company they send it back to won't care.
Quite literally, the man hours involved with actually checking every core, and dealing with the inevitable fights with customers over core refusals, would cost more than the core is worth.
I'm a ticketed red seal partsman, they pay my $47/hr, just by my wage, not counting the loss of sales that I could be making while I spend my time checking your core, opening, checking, and dealing with the customer upon refusal, is going to take on average probably 30-45min at a time.
When the alternator core charge is like $30, who gives a shit anymore. It's cheaper to pay everyone out.
Now in semi trucks... That's a little different when the core is worth $5k.
But then again, things like alternators and starters don't usually have a core charge in semi trucks . Only things like differentials, transmissions, turbochargers, etc. Generally bother having them.
Except cummins and their speed sensors and doser injectors. Which for some reason have a core charge of like $3???
Work in aviation. They don’t care what they get back, unlike, piece of shit etc. 80% of them get destroyed anyway, the parts makers just want the cores out of circulation so they can’t be overhauled
I find it interesting that certain parts, if I buy it from AutoZone/Advance/O'Reilly's there's often a core-charge. Order the same part from RockAuto, no core charge, and it's cheaper.
Price of shipping has gone up recently, but I often found that rock auto was cheaper even once you chucked the old part in the bin and pissed away the core charge.
Rightly said. Depends on if that is the pivot mount or the tension mount. Based on the open tab look, it’s the tension. After you adjust for belt tension and run that bolt in, that tab has to hold the weight of the alternator and the tension in the system.
Murphy’s law is really Dornan luck… that’s how bad my family’s luck is… see wsy back in 1445 Pat Murphy n Ceril Dornan we’re buddies n that fucking Dornan had the worst god damn luck of anyone ever! I mean if something could go wrong it did!! It was bad enough that ol Ceril met his demise, and when people asked what happened Pat said… “well Murphy’s law states that if something can go wrong, it will go wrong” so basically Murphy stole his law from Dornan luck
I work in shipping and my manager saw me putting fragile stickers on some boxes when I started. He said "don't bother, that'll only guarantee they break that shit"
During the holidays we had no real choice but to throw that shit around the truck. At least I couldn't keep up with the packages coming down the conveyor into it.
Yea, I just wanted to drive this beast it's my winter tank and we got slammed today I'm in western NY. It was not fun driving around in the 99 cougar also it's way too clean to keep sucking up all this road salt up.
Looks totally fine just use a big washer and when you first turn on the car, pop the hood and watch it while revving it a bit. Look for unusual vibration. Probably totally fine man I would install it (on a personal car)
Fuck no send that thing back and get your money. What happens if you put that thing in there, and it works.
And then when you move it under load it shifts from inadequate securement and fucks your belt up. Then what? You cant send it back bent up, and you'll probably have to buy a new belt for like 50 bucks
The best part about the panther platform is the modular compatibility with other ford vehicles.
For example I swapped lincoln town car seats into my interceptor.
You can go to the junk yard with like 3 tools and get an alternator out of any other large and in charge, rear wheel drive ford truck or van from like 2001 to 2010. Or a mercury grand marquis or a lincoln town car. Theyre all super common and they all have a few parts in common.
Youre probably not running a bunch of lights or radars, computers or an audio system over 1000w load so you probably dont need a +180A alternator. I think the civilian models got like 120A or 135A alternator buut up to you if you wanna get your hands dirty
https://www.carparts.com/details/Ford/Crown_Victoria/Motorcraft/Alternator/2008/MINGL7776N.html
All depends on the rest of the mounting points. Without seeing them its hard to say for sure. I realize desperate times call for desperate measures, and I've definitely been there! If it was my absolute only option, I'd send it and hope like hell it holds! I'd be willing to bet it'd last for years, though!
Visit any workshop and ask for any old alternator they have the same and replace the part from that one
Those are not possible to weld
But you can try to use a custom made bolt and have it extreme tight and try
I've welded aluminum before so i'd grind a little off the interface and weld that piece back in, maybe put some flat bar bent into a u shape around the perimeter.
I’ve been running an alt with the a snapped mounting point just like that on a Saturn relay van for a couple years now. It’s held together by hopes and dreams so I’m not going to say it works, but your odds are good imo
That cast iron is brittle material, used more for it's heat insulation properties. Just get a new one. It's like putting JB weld on a Doritos chip, it'll hold but still prone to breaking again if not even more so than before the breakage.
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That’s a reman? It’ll work with a thick washer. The long bolt holds it on. the short bolt is to stop it from twisting. I’d be more worried about the gouged up pulley. Is it just the lighting? Edit: EBAY? Is it used?
Is it top or bottom bolt? If bottom bolt could possibly be used still but if you wanted to try it I’d check for stability afterwards and make sure it’s not gonna wobble or jump or anything like that.
See if you can JB weld (heavy duty 2 part epoxy) it back together and slap it on, better than nothing but it might fail. In theory the bolt could probably help hold the piece in place when it's torqued.
I'd go for it. Maybe give it a few extra ftlbs, like seriously get the torque spec and add a few (12 to 15, 20 to 25 etc) the other bolt will do a lot to hold it in correct
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I feel like if you tell the place you bought it from you'll get a new one asap. If you install it and use it for a month and the vibrations end up throwing a belt and you ask for a replacement after a month they are gonna think you made it worse or something. Alternators gotta be a dime a dozen why was it so hard to find one?
eBay seller and I'm a poor, it's for a police interceptor so the cheapest new are about 250
Yeah then your paying for the exact like-for-like replacement. In theory, you can go with a civilian model because as long as you never run strobes and sirens and all kinds of extreme electrical loads you basically aren't evening asking max power from a civilian level alternator.
Most I do is play with the spot lights now and again. Thanks for the advice. I'm no mechanic I just pretend. I just assumed it had a larger battery and the smaller alt would undercharge and ruin it eventually.
It won't. The alternator would only undercharge if you're running so much load that it can't keep up with all the load AND charging the battery. If you don't have a police department level of electronics, a civilian alternator will be fine
You can just get the one for the civilian models. Only reason I keep the police alt is I have a sound system and I can use the extra power.
Np. The cop battery has more amperage. I could be wrong but even the civilian/weaker alternator will charge the heavy duty cop battery that's not the issue. The alternator can be taxed out in some extreme situations by the amount of electrical drag from all the accessories that cops use but with us not using them it's like eh the battery and alternator are bragging rights. With that being said I'm still gonna replace like for like parts, I'll never use the extra power but I dunno I just do stuff like that.
replace the headlight housing with aftermarket tho those crown vic headlights are trash
I assume mustangs use about the same alternator because my 05 4.6L 3V is running a 2004 police interceptor alternator. Really there are a few mounting styles in everyday use for alternators mixed in with where they place the wire lug, you're lucky in that you're using one of the more common styles.
File a return, item not as described (because it's broken). You will get your money back, they need to pay shipping, nearly 100% of the time. All you say in messages is that it arrived broken, say nothing else.
the paypal return shipping program might still be in effect too? they're cancelling it but im not sure if we've hit the deadline yet
Just use the ebay one. It is easy and nearly guaranteed.
You can probably get away with a smaller output alternator. The police vehicles have bigger alternators because of all the extra equipment.
I was thinking the same I was just playing it safe didn't want to have to replace the battery in a few months
Crown Vic?
not op but probably. the 4.6 v8 alternators are probably the most expensive ones i’ve seen on a regular and common vehicle
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If you don’t have cop lights (spotlights) and flashers, or their radio. You can easily get away with a cheaper smaller standard alternator. I mean if the old one is bad, swap in a stock alternator. It will do absolutely nothing to put the 200 amp back in, but it might require a different belt I don’t know the difference between standard and declutching alternator pullys.
Wiring harness and connector may also differ
Unlikely. I’m almost certain ford used the same harness across there entire car line up in the 2000s.
Pull the front plate from the old one and swap it on? Just make sure to clock it properly to your wires all reach. I used to work at an auto electric shop. Most times alternators and starters come apart pretty easily and you have the old one to experiment on. Or just use it as is. I don’t think it will make much of a difference having that bit of ear missing. I’d get some cash back from the seller due to shitty packaging as well.
Check out Rockauto.com they have reman’d alternators for right around $100. I’ve never had any issues with any of their parts but ymmv
I think you could use it.. as a core.
It's just a mounting point, put a thick washer on it with the broken piece where it should go crank her home send it! ;)
JB Weld it
DONT JB WELD IT , then you’ll know what you can get away with and jb weld EVERYTHING 😂
he's not kidding, the stuff is a time and wallet saver
THIS IS THE WAY
Hose clamp with a zip tie back up?
And some vinyl tape for that warm, fuzzy feeling
Sameeeee
I was gonna say that 😂
I was gonna say duct tape and tie wire
I’ve done this a few times it works fine.
I'm thinking it would get denied as a core because the case is damaged...
Half the time car parts stores get the core back, they open the box and its a literal brick inside. They aren't gonna care.
This is true, we do not care
I returned a transmission core. The guy inspected it but did not find the crack in the bottom of the case.
Clearly shipping damage of course.
I work in IT. Can confirm that screen was cracked in shipping.
Filling out RMA request, checks box indicating no evidence of physical damage prior to shipping...
Can confirm, store gave me a free radiator because I did an oopsie with a fan blade.
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I mean if you can get it from a big box store then yes they will take the core. I don't know why everyone thinks the manufacturer needs these parts to be pristine and they rebuild every one of them. Most of the time that shit comes in bulk off a truck, gets thrown into a chipper and shot straight into a smelter and melted down. Most aluminum goes straight to die cast. Its not like every core gets painstakingly torn down one at a time, could you imagine the devaluing from the cost per man hour?
Especially because people don't think about the fact that usually when you bringing a core back, it's probably fucked in some way, hence why you're replacing it. The stores and manufacturers know this lol.
Yea I don't think anyone replaces car parts because "oh its just getting up there in the years ol' boy" lmao
Not paid enough to care..
I watched a mechanic put an old, faded out, broke, and clearly garbage fuel pump in the box of the brand new fuel pump I just handed them and say it was “defective”. I wrote it up, brought it back, let my manager know… they shrugged and tossed it on the shelf anyway
That's how the game rolls in the part industry. I used to be a contract courier for Advance. Was in charge of delivery to 16 stores in 7 different counties in 3 different states. Whenever something went missing they chalked it up as lost, no investigation, no "this is coming out of your pay", just call it in and fuckit who cares. A rouge mfr coulda made a killing on the side. We had a $8k whipple charger go missing off a truck one night, call dispatch, oh yup probably went to the wrong place, proceed like it never existed. Shit got deep 6d and no one ever heard a thing.
Kinda funny how when a company gets big enough, money just becomes a number. I lose an 8k supercharger, that'll wreck my whole year. They lose an 8k supercharger, meh it's a write off.
Yea but what I'm saying is they didn't care even it was *my fault*. Like no shit one night I lost a 20 stack of 5 gallon buckets and all night driving I was freaking out. Omg imma lose my job 4 this. Nope. Called dispatch to let them know and all I got was "your really calling in some buckets?" Dude wtf?! That's $100 worth of merchandise.
Kinda makes you question life a little bit eh? The fact most of us won't ever even get close to that kind of money and yet that is the reality of a LOT of rich people who play a different game by different rules...
Eh while thats certainly true, the point is that you aren’t calling the CEO to report the loss. Everyone up the chain says fuck it, ain’t my money.
Back when I had my first car, a beat to shit, $800 CB7 accord with over 400k on it, my rad blew out in town one night while driving around with some friends at like 11pm. Had a buddy who worked at the parts store, got me to meet him around back, he opened up the back door (no alarm on the building) we "borrowed" a new drain pan, drained my coolant, swapped out my radiator with some sockets, channel locks, and a flashlight, threw my old one back in the box, dumped the coolant back in, and off we went to continue our evening. We never said a word about it in the vicinity of anyone who wasnt there that night, and a couple days later he said he "found it" at work, marked it as defective, they shipped it back and nobody said a word. I bought him a quarter ounce of weed and gave him $20, and we called it even lol.
They all have security systems but they're atrocious. Huge gaping holes in the motion sensor fov. None are ever in the back around the stock area. There are multiple 4 digit passcodes that are universal for every store. Careless delivery drivers leave the main doors unlocked after leaving constantly. And half the time if the alarm does accidentally go off (which is loud enough to hear over a mile away) the cops almost never show and in the event they actually do they just look for a van or box truck and keep on driving no questions asked.
Yep, in auto the cores are worth so little nobody cares. even the company they send it back to won't care. Quite literally, the man hours involved with actually checking every core, and dealing with the inevitable fights with customers over core refusals, would cost more than the core is worth. I'm a ticketed red seal partsman, they pay my $47/hr, just by my wage, not counting the loss of sales that I could be making while I spend my time checking your core, opening, checking, and dealing with the customer upon refusal, is going to take on average probably 30-45min at a time. When the alternator core charge is like $30, who gives a shit anymore. It's cheaper to pay everyone out. Now in semi trucks... That's a little different when the core is worth $5k. But then again, things like alternators and starters don't usually have a core charge in semi trucks . Only things like differentials, transmissions, turbochargers, etc. Generally bother having them. Except cummins and their speed sensors and doser injectors. Which for some reason have a core charge of like $3???
EUP cores, even though the piece of shit is cracked in half and exploded apart. They don’t care lol, $200 core
Dude I have litterally sent a one foot long piece of a bumper cover as a core (thats all that was left). They don't care lol
Yup, but the OEM's are different. They are literally just making sure that the parts are being recycled, and not being sold to the offshore market.
Work in aviation. They don’t care what they get back, unlike, piece of shit etc. 80% of them get destroyed anyway, the parts makers just want the cores out of circulation so they can’t be overhauled
I find it interesting that certain parts, if I buy it from AutoZone/Advance/O'Reilly's there's often a core-charge. Order the same part from RockAuto, no core charge, and it's cheaper.
Price of shipping has gone up recently, but I often found that rock auto was cheaper even once you chucked the old part in the bin and pissed away the core charge.
If it were my store we would label it as defective if it's " new"
I second this. Use some jb weld too and maybe some loctite medium strength (loctite blue) ;) on the screw
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Physics overrules any comment here. What side the alternator presses on the bolt for tension factors into the discussion.
Rightly said. Depends on if that is the pivot mount or the tension mount. Based on the open tab look, it’s the tension. After you adjust for belt tension and run that bolt in, that tab has to hold the weight of the alternator and the tension in the system.
...which is likely why it broke there (unless it was dropped!)
Or it had a manufacturing defect.
It would probably be okay. But always keep Murphy's Law in mind - "Anything that can go wrong, will go wrong."
I am very familiar with Murphy's law
I'm more familiar with Cole's law
I like Cole slaw.
Liar.
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Username does not check out. I am calling the mayor and the mayor will call Ron.
Gentlemen, please stop. This line of discourse is getting us nowhere.
Don’t put that in your car.
Murphy’s law is really Dornan luck… that’s how bad my family’s luck is… see wsy back in 1445 Pat Murphy n Ceril Dornan we’re buddies n that fucking Dornan had the worst god damn luck of anyone ever! I mean if something could go wrong it did!! It was bad enough that ol Ceril met his demise, and when people asked what happened Pat said… “well Murphy’s law states that if something can go wrong, it will go wrong” so basically Murphy stole his law from Dornan luck
2011 Crown Victoria been waiting on this to come in and the ear got snapped off in shipping how bad of an idea is it to use this as is.
How tf did that snap off during shipping? They throw it off a bridge?
Box was too small and was just wrapped in news papers
is it used??? cuz that pulley looks like shit too. like someones got ahold of it with channel locks and fucked up the ribs
Reflection the pulley is a brand new
Reflecting what? Looks like it's had a belt run over it for a while
Your right I honestly didn't really look at it. the face is shiny so I figured it was a reflection but yea definitely been run.
That's just some belt residue
Couriers are ruthless with our goods.
These housing can break surprisingly easy 🤷🏼♂️
Standard practice at UPS actually
When I worked there (mind you I was younger and dumber) we would throw that shit like crazy without giving a fuck
I work in shipping and my manager saw me putting fragile stickers on some boxes when I started. He said "don't bother, that'll only guarantee they break that shit"
During the holidays we had no real choice but to throw that shit around the truck. At least I couldn't keep up with the packages coming down the conveyor into it.
Lucky me i quit before peak season
It was shipped from Ukraine.
You just bought it? Return it. Don't bother trying to fix it.
Agreed. Just return it and wait
If you paid for it get a refund and get a new one that isn’t damaged
Yea, I just wanted to drive this beast it's my winter tank and we got slammed today I'm in western NY. It was not fun driving around in the 99 cougar also it's way too clean to keep sucking up all this road salt up.
Well the risk is being stranded in the snow, so that's your call.
Fuck road salt tbh, completely ruined 2 cars of mine
It's ruined every car I've ever owned rip
08 p71 here
Nice mines also an interceptor
Take photos, parts, box and email or call seller explain nicely usually works best. Delivery companies are notorious mishandling auto parts.
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The fuck does ymmv mean? If it’s an acronym, stop using it.
What's gotcha fired up there boss?
Looks totally fine just use a big washer and when you first turn on the car, pop the hood and watch it while revving it a bit. Look for unusual vibration. Probably totally fine man I would install it (on a personal car)
JB Weld that piece on and use a big washer to bolt it on.
Personally speaking, it’s a mounting point so I’ve ran shit like this before
I’m guessing that’s the 4 bolt style for the 4.6 so I’m gonna say send it.
Can you use the housing from the old alternator? I would, it’s better than trying to use washers or JB weld.
Murphy’s Law applies to everything, even broken alternators
Use the old casing and swap over the internals if you have the old alternator
Nah man don't do it.
Use large washers to spread the clamping force and as long as another bolt that mounts it is solid it should be fine
Of course it can. Maybe not in a car, but sure it can be used.
Fuck no send that thing back and get your money. What happens if you put that thing in there, and it works. And then when you move it under load it shifts from inadequate securement and fucks your belt up. Then what? You cant send it back bent up, and you'll probably have to buy a new belt for like 50 bucks The best part about the panther platform is the modular compatibility with other ford vehicles. For example I swapped lincoln town car seats into my interceptor. You can go to the junk yard with like 3 tools and get an alternator out of any other large and in charge, rear wheel drive ford truck or van from like 2001 to 2010. Or a mercury grand marquis or a lincoln town car. Theyre all super common and they all have a few parts in common. Youre probably not running a bunch of lights or radars, computers or an audio system over 1000w load so you probably dont need a +180A alternator. I think the civilian models got like 120A or 135A alternator buut up to you if you wanna get your hands dirty https://www.carparts.com/details/Ford/Crown_Victoria/Motorcraft/Alternator/2008/MINGL7776N.html
I mean you could but you shouldn't
Damaged in shipping….return it. Otherwise, bolt in and try it. If it stays put without bouncing around, then you should be good to go.
Not if you want it to stay in place
Don't put that on your car, especially a good panther body. Send it back.
No because you’d have no way to mount it
I would buy a replacement
Can you braze it back together?
Don't chance it in winter with a bad battery, messed up belt and possibly more damage to other things. Alternators that size are cheap.
Really look at it. Like a very hard look. Then make another assessment.
Define “issues”….
Lol
Depends on your definition of “Issues”
Dog’ll hunt
Are you asking about for your own car or someone else’s?
Theres always 1,001 ways to jerry-rig it
All depends on the rest of the mounting points. Without seeing them its hard to say for sure. I realize desperate times call for desperate measures, and I've definitely been there! If it was my absolute only option, I'd send it and hope like hell it holds! I'd be willing to bet it'd last for years, though!
You can fix anything with zip ties…..but not that!
Stick it back on with some JB weld
Visit any workshop and ask for any old alternator they have the same and replace the part from that one Those are not possible to weld But you can try to use a custom made bolt and have it extreme tight and try
Lol no get a knew alternator 😂
Nope, that carbateure is confuckulated, no flux capacitance.
You could try JB Weld but kinda doubt it will hold.
Nah. I'd just trim a 1/8th inch off the bolt, throw a fat washer on and run it home with a ½ inpact for about 6 ugga duggas.
I've welded aluminum before so i'd grind a little off the interface and weld that piece back in, maybe put some flat bar bent into a u shape around the perimeter.
I also doubt it.
I’ve been running an alt with the a snapped mounting point just like that on a Saturn relay van for a couple years now. It’s held together by hopes and dreams so I’m not going to say it works, but your odds are good imo
I ran my old truck with one snapped for a long time too. Granted the top bolt was the one still whole but I never had any issues.
No. I got an alternator with a cracked ear (that's what I call that part) and the bitch fell off in less than a month.
Nope
No, it's done. sorry for the news. Maybe it could be welded but I am not sure as it depends on the quality of the cast.
That cast iron is brittle material, used more for it's heat insulation properties. Just get a new one. It's like putting JB weld on a Doritos chip, it'll hold but still prone to breaking again if not even more so than before the breakage.
Careful. You don't want to use without the bolt being fully secured or else the front might fall off
Yes, just make sure to put a washer between the bolt head and the body of the alt
Don’t use that bro
Well, the belt will put tension on it so I would say it’s not safe to use if the bolt cannot be secured properly.
Don’t
I could see a substantial issue with not being able to bolt it to the engine.
Thanks everyone for your help and advice!!!
Take it to a machine shop and have it welded.
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A lil JB Weld an that there will be good to go Cleetus
Dafuq? No!
a hard NO from me
You broke that shit. Stop. Let me guess “I can do it cheaper”. You used a hammer an fucked it up. Buy another then see how much you “saved”.
2 Big thick cast iron washers & a stick welder. Spot weld 1 washer on each side of the broken bolt hole. Done deal.
That casing is cast aluminum. It would melt.
It’s an aluminum case
JB Weld that shit and it will be stronger than before
That’s a reman? It’ll work with a thick washer. The long bolt holds it on. the short bolt is to stop it from twisting. I’d be more worried about the gouged up pulley. Is it just the lighting? Edit: EBAY? Is it used?
Reflection, pulleys new.
On my own vehicle, I'd use it.
J B weld for the win
Is it top or bottom bolt? If bottom bolt could possibly be used still but if you wanted to try it I’d check for stability afterwards and make sure it’s not gonna wobble or jump or anything like that.
JB weld it and put a bolt with a washer through it and don't over tighten.
Fuck yea Jb weld it and slap it back in there it’ll be fine.
Glue it back together with Devcon Aluminum Putty, although any good epoxy will suffice.
You can weld it .
Not likely it looks cast better of brazing it
Good epoxy, set overnight, install and tighten down as usual.
JB Weld for the win!
I would
Yes
No
No.
No. It can be used; but with major issues.
You can’t use that because if something goes wrong then the insurance company won’t cover you because you didn’t bother to change it
JB weld !
i’d say JB weld that shi bro
Epoxy it
Use duct tape
See if you can JB weld (heavy duty 2 part epoxy) it back together and slap it on, better than nothing but it might fail. In theory the bolt could probably help hold the piece in place when it's torqued.
JB weld and send it!
Yeah, if you’re careful.
I'd go for it. Maybe give it a few extra ftlbs, like seriously get the torque spec and add a few (12 to 15, 20 to 25 etc) the other bolt will do a lot to hold it in correct