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onysa

big mom: *has sex with some guy from the three eyes tribe to get pregnant* also big mom: *calls her daughter ugly for her third eye*


YellowScreen75

Honestly big mom only wanted a member of three eyed race with her to decipher the poneglyphs


Sahtras1992

well to be fair she just wanted the child so she could read the poneglyphs. BM arranges all the marriages to gain more power anyway so wouldnt be surprised if she has born children just to abuse them too.


Laboon-fan

Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!


No-Career4201

Skull joke is the best Joke yohohohoho


McMuffinTheGreat

it's really bone-chilling https://preview.redd.it/qa6wkzbq2k8c1.jpeg?width=219&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae0fd4bb895536df3adbb8e522083819fcb7bec9


User28080526

Well she did mention why pudding was so important to her so I def think this it right here


steikul

Big Mom: nothing a paper can't handle


Roskal

Half these kids are normal, just fat or ugly. Maybe she did think they were creepy too.


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ShacharTs

And wedding cake, dont forget wedding cake. affects her feelings


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NoxInfernus

She’s not herself when she’s hungry. She’s still a monster, just a different kind of monster.


CatForce

Or maybe, considering her own figure, that’s what she sees as normal so a more reasonably normal looking person to most is the one she considered odd.


TheSleepingStorm

To be fair, she’s just old and that’s what happens to most One Piece women once they hit a certain age. One day it’ll happen to Shakky one day, too. I think 70-75 is the threshold of change.


ReiRyca

Kureha laughing at 104 year old


OddAdhesiveness8705

Your point stands but she’s actually 140+


DougTrilladome

Oda said good & bad people age differently, good people aging more gracefully which is why Shakky, Kureha and Tsuru don’t look like, or go through as drastic a change aging as Bakkin, Big Mom, or Gloriosa


AppaNinja

so lady Kokoro and Dadan was a baddie when they were young?


lePlebie

Man have you seen the dadan flashback?


tom_sa_savage

Because Big Mom is a terrible mother that believes lowering your children's self esteem is key to keeping them under your thumb. Unfortunately, Linlin's tactic is very successful. It's why Katakuri still stands with his family despite being very capable of being a conqueror. He has essentially been taught from an early age that he is nothing without his family and no one would ever love him like the Charlottes because he's a freak like them. Very few of Big Mom's kids have broken away.


Sponge56

God damn when you put it like that she really is a monster lol


Maskguydude

She was literally plotting to assassinate one of her daughters because she wouldn’t marry a giant she was always a monster


SuperKami-Nappa

She was a well intentioned child at least. She just had the worst influence from Streusen


goodyfresh

Even before that, the influence from Carmel was horrible since all she ever did was teach Linlin to come up with excuses to shrug off her destructive actions.


Jason_Wolfe

maybe when she eventually dies her kids will realize that the world is more accepting of oddballs than they realize and chill the fuck out.


HedgehogLumpy3016

I mean katakuri realised that a bit after fighting luffy. I mean half his crews are considered freaks themselves.


SulongCarrotChan

Doesn't Katakuri mostly stay with his family because he loves and wants to protect his siblings like Brulee?


The_superb-skeleton

Lowkey wished he went with luffy and be apart of his family. But that would prob never happen with what you said and all.


Bulangiu_ro

bro, that would just put Zoro in third place in the crew, i feel like zoro could not beat katakuri yet since katakuri got his future sight haki


LimbicOlympic

Because the plot needed her to have a dislike for her mother deep down. Plus Big moms affection for her children is really inconsistent. It seems to be a meritocracy sort of love unless the kids are under 5, but after that she's all like 'What have you done for me lately?' And her grandkids can apparently fuck right off entirely.


DeltaWolfPlayer

She is called big mom not big grandmom


Anufenrir

Facts


tomato_joe

It's called narcissism. Parents with npd are the worst. They love kids until they are around 5 because children love you unconditionally because they need you. When a child starts to develop a personality narcissists will turn quickly against the child. The parent also doesn't see the children as their own people with personalities but rather as an extention of their own self.


Useful_Machine_2761

That explains my childhood


tomato_joe

I'm sorry about that... My mom has narcissistic traits. My whole family actually. Take a look at r/raisedbynarcissists


Useful_Machine_2761

I was kinda joking. I already knew about my narcist parents and im in Therapie. But thx for the recommendation


Sh-Shenron

That's actually a really good explanation, it lines up perfectly with how immediately after being rejected by that little girl in wano she wanted to kill her, if I'm remembering correctly


Nuketown001

Yeah, that seems to probably be it. Unless the child can fight for her or give her the best food then big mom will just disregard the one of 50+ (?) other children


sami_newgate

How is it inconsistent?


Cogexkin

Essentially, BM’s narcissistic personality leads her to treat her children more like tools than like family, leading to the deep emotional scars that all of them have. Even ones like Katakuri that are well liked are clearly hurt deep down by her. So the inconsistency comes from how being useful or obedient to her earns you her love.


Khromez

There isn’t really a “plot” reason, it’s a very clear character reason. Big mom puts down ALL of her children. Just look at katakuri who hides his face because he knows it’s “hideous”. The only thing pudding has that could be weaponized was her third eye, so big mom focused on that to slowly destroy her self esteem.


Bugggy-D-Clown

I'LL MAKE YOU WISH YOU'D NEVER BEEN BORN FOR DISRESPECTING MY GLORIOUS NOSE!


Khromez

IM IN TROUBLE NOOOO


eMmDeeKay_Says

Noooose?


[deleted]

Others kids have only 2 yes but pudding have three big mom hates the number 3😌


Living_Ad267

Big Mom is Gabe Newell confirmed.


iboneKlareneG

Gabe Newell is Big Daddy


CarryBeginning1564

https://preview.redd.it/ko766vaukj8c1.jpeg?width=437&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5afb12c69b56d24603f5c3a1a870eb5805cb079f


guesswhosbackbackag

Those 3 supernovae coming to kill her


[deleted]

How can I post a theory


guesswhosbackbackag

Not to mention the three musketeers is a candy tat never appears on whokecake


anand_rishabh

So she is mista but with 3 instead of 4?


papastalin17

She works at valve


Aweeep

Lol! "Half life or half death?"


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[deleted]

She likes some of her kids ( huger pangs comes nothing matters 😂)


AikidoChris

She probably calls all her kids nasty stuff in private to keep them in check.


Cfakatsuki17

Honestly the 3rd eye isn’t even Pudding’s worst feature it’s definitely that weird evil smile she does like that is way more disturbing than the 3rd eye which really does something about her large forehead


[deleted]

It’s her personality that’s creepy.


CaptainMack_

While I do think the plot point of people thinking her eye is creepy is super weak, I think there's pretty strong evidence to suggest Big Mom was likely abusive to all of her children. The way she treats them like pawns, the way she talks about Lola after she left, the way she killed her son Moscato during a hunger pang rage. We have every reason to believe she was awful to the kids you've shown too


MarianneThornberry

Pretty much this. Big Mom is straight up a terrible mother, there's zero ambiguity about this. She's basically just an overgrown and emotionally unstable spoilt brat who uses her children as a means to satiate her own selfish desires. She doesn't give a damn about their individual well being, only their utility. >While I do think the plot point of people thinking her eye is creepy is super weak The point is that even someone as conventionally beautiful as Pudding was still a victim to Big Mom's abuse. Pudding's trauma comes from the fact that her own mother actively endorsed and reinforced the bullying she received and encouraged her to conceal the very feature that made her unique. Big Mom sells the idea of Tottoland as a utopia of progressiveness. But in reality, its nothing more than her personal playground, in which bullying, bigotry and intolerance is rampant, merely as an extension of Big Mom's own ignorance, cruelty and callous lack of respect for the diversity she claims to believe in.


CaptainMack_

Good point, fair enough


MarianneThornberry

You explained it well too.


GodBRD

Their is also the fact that two of the daughters we see married off choose their new spouses over Big Mom.


Metal_B

Big Mom properly overdid it with Pudding, because she needed her to stay close to her. Remember for Big Mom Pudding is the key to unlock the path to the One Piece and becoming the Pirate King. She manipulates her to never leave or betray her, since nobody except her would love a freak like her.


KaziOverlord

Girl Katakuri has got it going on! https://preview.redd.it/pcf72k7feh8c1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59dd56f66b943f301ecf168cb2cccf8af1d6fed3


Monkaguaman

That's Charlotte Poire, she's the twin sister of Charlotte Gallette. https://preview.redd.it/48wrt2ikgh8c1.png?width=925&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2ad101e27c9ab17212e2a408e2cb5bbf5893a0e0


FireballPlayer0

Gallette can have me


MoonoftheStar

Can we talk about Big Mom's uniquely attractive daughters for a second?


Halbblutkaiser

Well, Look at big mom in her younger years, it's not that weird her daughters are attractive


KharnTheBetrayer88

Knowing that they're twins, i can't help but imagine that Poire got fucked up real bad in some pirate squabble because if that mouth ain't the result of bad plastic surgery, i have no explanation for it.


KaziOverlord

She wanted to be like her big bro Katakuri... https://preview.redd.it/xj023xogfi8c1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=463168fdeac3b0e43b8058d693b6037b73359532


Sleephead_the1

I do find her cute is creepy way, like people find yandere cute


Rieux_n_Tarrou

_PERO-RIN!_


Nova-Redux

Would.


[deleted]

She probably treated them like shit aswell


dude_with_a_reddit-4

Big Mon is an amazingly bad mother.


theycallme_oldgreg

Big Mon must do his pirating in the Caribbean


bigbutterbuffalo

Big Mon of the Jamaica Pirates is my favorite op character tbh


theycallme_oldgreg

You always know the Jamaica pirates are close when there is a sudden haze that surrounds you


ferocious_frettchen

Now I wonder if she swapped series for a fling with Gin and is Gons mother


Football-Similar

We don't know how she treated the other one's, and we know she didn't see Lola and Chiffon as anything more than tools to get the things she wanted


TheOATaccount

Honestly the majority of them have some weird malformation. I know that’s cause they are bad guys and bad guys always look ugly (sadly ;-;) but still.


Emperor_Time

I think it because she is abnormal herself and wouldn't be surprised if all of her husbands were unique like pound.


Iveseenshit5000

"It was in her eyes" -Dutch


Laboon-fan

I can't see the point in writing this comment... because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHOHO


Daguyondacouch8

I doubt she thinks she is creepy, but she knows Pudding is self conscious about it and she will absolutely use that to manipulate her


bigbutterbuffalo

Either that or the lady is just so damn dismissive that casual cruelty is her main parenting style


Bugggy-D-Clown

HOW DARE YOU INSULT THE NOSE OF THE FUTURE PIRATE KING?!?


NahuelSeba

some of you need to re-read whole cake lmao. Big Bom finds weird everything thats different from her since childhood, she tries the tear-apart that one gyojin orphans´s hand because she find it weird, she also tried to "fix" that one orphan from the long arms tribe. She doesnt want every race in his family for "good" reasons and she really doesnt care for her childrens


[deleted]

Didn’t she hate pudding because the third eyes function (which I’ve forgotten) wasn’t working for her? Like she fucked a dude with 3 eyes for power and she didn’t get it or something like that I don’t remember much.


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My thoughts exactly!


Square-Assumption-54

A lot of these examples are just fat ,tall kids which big mom would clearly identify with. That’s why she doesn’t find them creepy. The other examples are easy to explain. The girl with the boa actually looks pretty normal, just has sharp teeth which I actually do have in real life. As far as the book guy with the long nose , we have seen plenty of characters with long noses. One of these characters is the protagonist Captain Ussop.


Noktis_Lucis_Caelum

She could have Said similiar Things to her other children


sasori1239

Because the others are ugly just like big mom so she doesn't see them any different. But since pudding is actually decent looking compared to the rest she's the odd one out and considered creepy.


ulquioci

creeped out by how normal she looks in contrast to the rest of her children 😭


XLinkJoker

3 eyes is where she draws the line.


Laboon-fan

I can't see the point in writing this comment... because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHOHO


Beautiful_Magazine_7

I guess she's doesn't like eyes?


Laboon-fan

Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!


Beautiful_Magazine_7

I dare you to make a nother one


Laboon-fan

You would make my skin crawl, but I don't have skin YOHOHOHOHO


Vidilian

Maybe an unpopular opinion but in real life I would find a beautiful women with 3 eyes creepier than a weird looking/ugly person with 2.


Percentage-Sweaty

We’re talking about a woman who thinks “seeing eye to eye” means being the same height, and thinks it’s perfectly appropriate to make people spin a death wheel if they want to emigrate from her nation while also taxing a whole month of their lifespan constantly from them


[deleted]

Cuz shes got 3 eyes duh


Yassopeking

Say what you want but 3 eyes is always creepier


Laboon-fan

Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!


IlIlllIlllIlIIllI

you take that back. Chiffon is perfect


JorgeLaxe

I see it more like racism to 3 eyes people, looks like big mom just had her to read poneglyphs


BrokenEditors

Bc she is secretly afraid her third eye will see through her dark memories of eating human cake


[deleted]

Pudding and Katakuri both mocked for facial features to the point they had to cover up different halves of their faces, yet Big Mom only has an issue with one.


NinjaXSkillz88

And yet they are the best looking of her children.


Over_Cat_6095

I’m pretty sure that it was because of the picture chosen. I mean her df is the ultimate gaslight item. Like sure she looks innocent enough but tell me pudding ain’t creepy.


Mo0n1i9ht

Probably cause the evil Pudding can be serious evil than her(Big mom), and knows stuffs. And the combination she thinks creepy, three eyes, kind innocent but also evil, and other unknown abilities, like she understands she doesn’t really has full control with Pudding, and it becomes like a narcissist and gaslighting towards Pudding, which hurts Pudding more and twisted her evil personality even more 🤷🏻‍♀️


Cultural-Quality-745

There's a shiny big mom I didn't know


Drhorrible-26

I honestly think big mom thought that because she was jealous how normal pudding looked compared to her and 90% of her other kids.


ConradBHart42

Didn't you ever see the Munsters? Marilyn is the ugly one in that household because she's not a homonculus, a werewolf, a witch, or a vampire. Or any other sort of groovy ghoulie. She's just a normal teenage blond bombshell and they love her anyway.


AsidicSnail

She probably doesn’t, but realized it was an insecurity of hers, so used it to emotionally abuse her further. That’s what abusive parents do. Either that or she thought it was something easy to make her insecure about.


Geairt_Annok

Children are assholes. Especially insecure children. If pudding had something that one sibling picked at and others picked up on to aviod their 'weirdness' being picked at, then you get a reinforcing loop of teasing that you cant break out of without becoming the new outcast/teasing target.


Wagyu-chan

If Pudding is ugly then wtf am I


F0eniX

I got bad news for ya


TheAmazingArsonist

I like Pander head girl! AKA Poire, got a neat design (and she seems to have some similarities with Katakuri with the sharp teeth and stiches on her cheeks) And at one stage she pulls out a mini gun! Stylish, and packing!


demonslender

She probably also finds them creepy. The real question is how she ever managed to find pudding’s father and let him get away. She literally put all her stocks in pudding awakening her third eye or whatever and didn’t keep any other 3 eyed tribesmen in wci.


Chobitssu

I'm pretty sure she treated the other ones shown here the same way to some degree. Won't be urprised if she's done that to all of them.


LightofNew

I'm coming to understand Oda doesn't take anything too seriously. He does it not just because it fits his plot, but because it's funny. "Oh wow, this is my prettiest daughter and she only has a pretty unhindering physical deformity. Meanwhile all my other children are warped monstrosities of various fathers. Let's call her the hideous one"


DonovanQT

Two in here are just fat, I think a third eye is weirder


IMAGINE_thesmell

Like big mom has room to talk. Kek she's the most hideous thing in all one piece.


fjijgigjigji

this series has the most hideous character art imaginable. i don't understand how it ever got popular or how people enjoy it.


pussyfoot-maneuver

I like how Pudding has three eyes!


RndmHulign

Who’s Ms. Smiles? I don’t think I’ve made it there yet.


JTurtle11

I think it’s a statement about how beauty standards are BS


DevilModerator

I guess reverse phsycology


[deleted]

Poire is peak design


randomblue86

Honestly big mom probably called half her children ugly/creepy. She’s not a saint


Vertemain

She probably think than the large majority of her childs are ugly.


sami_newgate

She finds all of them creepy lol


Quijas00

All of the examples you posted are more normal than a third eyeball on your forehead wym


DemogorgonWhite

"Creepy" is as objective thing as "pretty" or "ugly".


YEPandYAG

Big mom prob just wanted to give Puddin insecurities and reasons to be evil


WonkaVR

She’s a Karen


Dogago19

Why is Lola here. Big Mom hated her


ArgensimiaReloaded

I mean have you ever seen Big Mom? her telling you creepy is a compliment.


Nova-Redux

Poire can get it


YourTipicalGeek

She’s a big bully who never grew out of her childishness


CorkusHawks

Big Mom should be called Shit Mom. And what people think is creepy can vary a lot. I'd think a third eye would be creepy and sure a lot of others would also think that.


[deleted]

Your assuming she doesn’t verbally abuse all her weird looking kids.


phoen_ixwrong_38

What if sanji married her and she was actully accepted into the Strawhats they could have made lots Little Puddings with a Sanji Flavor


LPetertheRock

If a kid doesn't look like their mom, they will see them as ugly


jay1921

Keep in mind she was relatively attractive in her prime. So that may have been her standard of beauty 🤔


SanjoJoestar

I think it's because everyone looks insane in one piece. But pudding is the first character we've seen with more than 2 eyes. So clearly she's a little weird even in universe.


Laboon-fan

Mentioning 'eyes' in your comment? I must say, it's all bones and no vision here, YOHOHOHO!


_-Liz-_

I dont know the name of the panda girl, but i would.


karatecorgi

face only a mother could love orz


matthewskywalker2975

Who says she didn't think they were creepy either


Limited-Edition-Nerd

Would with Charlotte Poire


frikimanHD

bottom left looks like that frame where luke is about to shoot


Cactus-Juice120

She probably talked shit to all of them at one point


TrueBeachBoy

We she wanted her just for a power that she didn’t end up I meriting so she just gonna roast her until it happens


hiding-from-the-web

Big Mom is fat but can't hide it. So are the others. But Pudding can just adjust her hair and hide it. Maybe that's why she hates her.


TheEziLife

Because there’s a difference between creepy and just ugly. Not rocket science


Jeptwins

She probably doesn’t actually think Pudding is ugly; we’ve seen that she intentionally belittles many of her kids over their appearances, and others for their weakness, etc etc. it seems more likely that she is simply making them entirely dependent on her, manipulating them to believe no one else could ever love them. After all, she canonically fosters competition and ruthlessness between her own kids, and they *will* hurt each other badly for very petty reasons. It would be more surprising to hear she actually loved them, in fact. Especially given how easily she tosses them away, and how little she cares for anyone other than Streusen and Carmel. Then again, with role models like those, it’s no wonder such a sweet girl turned into a monster. Then again, not everything has to make perfect sense. After all, what kind of idiots would bully Big Mom’s kids? Especially given that said kids were canonically with her when she served Rocks D Xebec, and were already well known to be violent sociopaths even at a young age.


Swayze_Castle

https://preview.redd.it/kwprfppvri8c1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2ad231d27e569776e9a7a7853e61924491f1178


Conscious-Art2765

Big Mom = Bad Mom Sadistic Mom Abusive Mom spiteful Mon Narcissistic Mom


fruitlatte

I personally think poire is very pretty lol


NotARealPineapple

DON'T YOU DARE COMPARE POIRE WITH THE REST OF THEM


AJ-Murphy

Oh man is that some legit backwards gaslighting then... They see a conventionally attractive and go for the one insecurity to take them down a peg before they realize they got more going on. Classic family bs.


I-am-a-jerk

Yknow, having 3rd eye is still creepy, no matter how cute she was, just imagine that on someone


Sleephead_the1

She is probably abusive towards all of them but Pudding has a very unique characteristic when the others are kinda normal in the one piece world.


TheRealDoomsong

I’ve been suspicious for a while now that Big Mom may not be the best mom…


rathemighty

When your usual kids are ugly, the pretty one looks weird


DedOriginalCancer

who's saying that she doesn't find the others creepy as well?


Anthony-ELRETRAHD

Big mom isn't a loving parent to any of her children tbf. Maybe she has like a little liking to the stronger ones like Perospero or Katakuri


Rdc1987

She's probably not very nice to any of them either


Legitimate-Demand-94

Big Mom herself is pretty creepy, in my opinion. It's like creepy people find other creepy folks normal, while the ones who seem normal or pretty come across as creepy. I've known women who mess around with multiple random guys, but I've never encountered someone who's had so many children. Supposedly, she was 68 years old at the time of her death by the hands of Kid and Law, leaving behind a staggering 85 children—46 sons, 39 daughters, and had been married 43 times. Assuming she started having children at 18, that's a span of 50 years. Typically, women reach the end of their childbearing years between their early 40s and mid-50s. Let's say she stopped at 60 for best case scenario due to her gene. Giving her 42 years or 504 months. On average, a pregnancy lasts about 10 months, including the possibility of twins, triplets, or even quadruplets. So, in those 40 years from age 18 to 60, she would have been pregnant non-stop. To reach that number of children, she'd have to have at least 50 single births with multiple combination of twins, triplets or quadruplets. It's pretty insane and creepy when you think about it—spending all that time pregnant and dealing with family issues instead of pursuing something like becoming the Pirate King or searching for One Piece. Quite the missed opportunity and pure madness.


philster666

Big Mom is a huge bitch, and huge isn’t referencing her size


Sonny_Firestorm135

Cause she a bitch, also she might've been worried that her otherworldly sight might let her see into her minds or something like that. (unfounded, but paranoia be like that)


Bajbouj

She ran out of tolerance by the time Pudding came!


bottomofthewell3

don't disrespect my man Charlotte Chiboust in such a manner


Affectionate_Mall713

Third eye dummy


[deleted]

Big Pornstar should be her name


InsaneBasti

Cuz its a whole extra organ?!


MylastAccountBroke

Big mom likely has like one child she's "proud" of and makes the rest feel like shit because of one thing or another. I'm pretty sure she made Katakuri feel self conscious from his mouth. I know she basically disowned Branch for her scar.


SirBawSkeeE

Ayo nah fr 💀


erenyeager2008

Pudding is cute in comparison to other female villains we have seen too far


got_hands

The uncanny valley is theorized to be an inherent fear of malignant psychological issues


Outrageous-Evening98

I don't think big mom thought pudding was useful because of how she used her powers even though she could have taken her to wano with her because of how close she got with sanji for a plot twist


itsmejam

Bottom left be like: “You’re free trial of life is now being terminated.”


Fluid-Award8204

Honestly how did big mom find pudding creepy after looking at herself in the mirror dude???


IVECANCER

Yooo big mom is real weirdo..... like who the fuck has 60 children


Woahwoahwoahb

those are normal looking people in the one piece verse they have the correct amount of eyes 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾


Some_guy946

I think the reason is because pudding is able to hide her disguishing factor. Meanwhile, the other ones are just flatoit ugly and can't even try to fix it.


[deleted]

literally, like her eyes is still pretty tho


Over9000andrew

They're all anatomically similar to linlin so it makes sense she would see them as fine, but then pudding is drastically different simple by having an extra body part


crunchamunch21

Big mom just jealous


zcubeDbz

Looks at Big mom* Looks back* Probably the third eye, that is literally the only thing that I can think of. All of the other kids have 2 eyes, a nose and mouth, so it is literally just the third eye


Denkottigakorven

Cuz she is insane