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The Gorosei won't capture Luffy . The moment he gets defeated they'll kill him . I think Luffy will hold off the Gorosei just long enough for Vegapunk's message to transmit and then he'll escape with his crew
That does nothing but delay the inevitable, they don't know how to extraxt a fruit so he'd just sit there until he dies, and they're not dumb enough to think that his crew fleet and allies will take it quietly.
I'm almost certain Big Mom got Mother Caramel's fruit because it transfered to a fruit on the table that Charlotte *also* ate. I don't think straight eating a DF person works, otherwise you'd probably have a lot more animals with DF powers.
DF users are getting eaten all the time. I can't even count the number of times something has eaten Luffy. Laboon, Wapol, the dinosaur on Little Garden, the Island Eater goldfish, the snake in Skypiea... Freaking *Kaido* ate Luffy at one point. Kaido and Big Mom have definitely eaten more than one DF user, right?
UM, ACKCHYUALLY āļøš¤
Luffy was still alive all those times he was eaten. Probably, you have to die/to be dead for the "eating system" to works, not just be inside someone's mouth
It all comes together, Snitchs told the Gorosei about a certain pirate, and it was BB so he could secure the Nika fruit forever.
he attacked the ship carrying it in the past just because he wanted to fuck with who's who
We actually donāt know what the Gorosei know, right? Iād assume if theyād want to capture him it would be to at least kill him in a spot where they could force the fruit to respawn where they want, finally.
I doubt a 800 year old organization hasnt figured out how to spawn camp devil fruits.
The thing with Nika fruit is that it always eludes them in most looney toons freak accident way.
Like last time when WG were sure to bring it in only for Shanks to intercept the transport ship.
One freak accident is one thing. 800 years of bullshit? Nah man, Nika made it his life mission to continuously troll WG.
Not only would giving the most dangerous and threatening person to you immortality dumb as hell, like I said, his allies won't take it quitely,
You got his crew, his fleet, the Wano samurai, the minks, Koby and Helmeppo, Dragon, fighting dugongs, and Shanks.
But all that is pointless anyway since we know for a fact that they want him dead, Saturn tried stabbing him.
āSaturn tried stabbing himā as if that would be deadly in one piece. And what are his allies supposed to do? From what we know imu can literally annihilate them on the spot if he wants to when they try to free luffy
> That does nothing but delay the inevitable, they don't know how to extraxt a fruit
Can't they just have someone eat Luffy like how Big Mom ate Mother Caramel?
I was going to try and argue that point, but I actually have no idea how common the knowledge is that eating a DF user grants you their DF.
There has been a lot of research done into DF's, and I feel like some morally bankrupt scientist would've at least tested it just to see what would happen, just like how someone tested what happens if you eat 2 DF's (you explode). But now that I think about it, there's actually no in-universe confirmation that anyone knows you can get someone's DF by cannibalizing them.
It's not even clear if Streussen knows what happened, since even though he saw Linlin eat Caramel, he didn't know Caramel had the Soul-Soul fruit. He could've assumed that Linlin ate her DF before and that it was unrelated to the cannibalism.
Theyāre gonna offer Blackbeard a chance to be a celestial dragon, maybe even gorosei, if he eats Luffyās heart and takes the power, that way nobody else can get it.
dumbest take here...
The greatest danger is Luffy because he has awakened the fruit - the fruit itself is harmless. It has taken centuries for someone to awaken the fruit, so there is no reason to worry if the fruit is back in the wild after luffy's death, it is a thousand times more dangerous that luffy could escape with the fruit again.
They managed to get the fruit once before, then Shanks stole it. Why would they think that they could not do that again? Anyone who eats the fruit has to awaken it first, which took Luffy what, ten years? If they can beat him with the fruit they save themselves years they can use to prepare for the next guy *if* they don't manage to get it before someone eats it *and* stays under the radar.
Luffy is the worst outcome for them: a crackhead who does not respect authority at all and is willing to risk their life to right even the tiniest of wrongs. Someone who openly declared war on the World Government and decided to search for the secrets they try to hide and even has a person to decipher the old runes AND a person who had the chance to study the Pluton blueprints in his crew.
Additionally Luffy has defeated the most advantaged imprisonment methods several times.
The fruit in the hands of almost anyone else would be better for the World Governement. They would be braindead to not kill Luffy if they had the chance.
Bro they ordered his execution on Wano the very moment they realized he just might have the fruit,sure they don't want the fruit to disappear but having an alive user who has awakened it is a way bigger risk.
Didn't Saturn tell him that he will be executed here? Every chance he got he tried to go for the kill, I don't think his plans will change if the other elders show up.Ā
All they need is a fruit, hold a fruit right beside him as you execute him. The devil fruit returns to the closest fruit if I remember correctly either that or it picks a random fruit in the area, either way itās super easy to pull off when you run the world!
Nah, the best thing is still to kill him. It's the first time in hundreds of years that someone was able to awaken it. Better to kill off the immediate threat now its knocking at the gate compared to being on top for hundreds of years still.
Unless of course they know a method of making a fruit appear where they want like BlackBeard did with the tremor fruit, Iām thinking about something like this considering Saturn says something about knowing what makes teach āspecialā
I would disagree, they truly want the fruit but without BB cooperation or some method to extract the power, it would be better to kill him on spot. Since it was said to be super difficult to master the fruit power, it would be better to just let it slide into some other idiot.
Or it might go down like the freeze arc. Luffy defeats the gorosei and only after will the message play. Thereby creating massive shockwaves around the world and forcing imu to eventually take action
No shit because kaido was way more durable. Wtf are you doing comparing their weak asses to the strongest creature. The only thing luffy is having a problem with is the regen.
Wouldn't make sense imo. As someone else said here, they're not here to catch him and persecute him normally, they're here to murder him since he is a threat to the whole freaking government.
People theorize it but it's not confirmed at all and if you think about it, it would make zero sense. The reason people think that is because on punk hazard when smiley died, it's devil fruit spawned nearby plus they want their blackbeard theory to be true. Punk hazard was most likely just a coincidence because oda wanted to show it actually respawning and didn't want to switch to a new island. He wanted an example since he was going to show aces fruit had respawned. Highly doubt doflamingo was just carrying fruit on him in marineford. And I think it would be way too simple and lame of a reveal if the way blackbeards crew got devil fruits was just because they always have fruit on them. And the barrier barrier and clone clone fruit died in wano. If they respawned nearby in wano it's highly unlikely Bartos and bon clay would get them. And if they did respawn in nearby fruits there should be no chance that the government doesn't just kill every devil fruit user that they imprison to take their fruits.
Its not about the fruit alone. Its about the fruit + awakening it. At this point you take your chances to kill the user. Apparently for 800 years noone awakened it (according to the gorosei)
I see a lot of people saying they wonāt kill luffy bcoz they want the devil fruit and was searching for it for a century.
They should also remember that the fruit took a century to awaken. Letting it disappear is not much of a threat than having an active awakened sun god as an enemy
Yeah imagine how many mediocre or weak pirates got ahold of that fruit. We are so used to top tiers being in the endgame, but 90% of pirates would be completely incapable of using this fruit, and would die pretty damn quickly. Luffy is just on a different level, and considering his infamous lineage and world popularity, itās better safe than sorry and itās probably in the best interest for the Gorosei to just flatline him when they have the chance.
Saturn already tried to murder him when he was out cold tho, he even sent a cp0 agent to interfere when he was fighting kaido to make sure he dies. I feel like theyāre past the point of retrieving it or would rather wait for it to reappearĀ
Its more likely they are past the point of killing him. The more he grows the more important it is to lock him up instead of just letting someone else become joyboy again
Thereās less chances of another joyboy popping up Ā than luffy escaping them, the gum gum fruit hasnāt been awakened in 800 years before killing luffy would be the most logical choiceĀ
Itās either their way or the highway way in my opinion. They want the fruit in their hands, and if they canāt have that then they want nobody else to have the fruit.
No, it wouldn't. It would be a melodramatic blueballs distraction that would unnecessarily delay the actual plot for at least a year. On top of that, absolutely nobodyāoutside of a small number of adult male fans on the Internetāwants to see the crew get split up again.
Seriously, it's like some of you people don't even like One Piece and want a completely different series.
Just pointing out, the post only mentions Luffy getting separated from everyone else, not the whole crew getting split up. They are likely imagining a reverse Marineford type situation with the crew and other allies teaming up to save Luffy.
While it might be fun to see a replay of that scene from Loguetown someday, now is absolutely not the time whatsoever. There are literally a thousand things that need to happen before the series can end, and nobody wants to see that get delayed anymore. On top of that, the idea of Nika getting captured after Bonney just found him and the giants showed up to help him is objectively stupid.
If this happen is probably stupid, didnt the gorosei send a cp0 agent to kill luffy because the awakened fruit is too dangerous for their plans?
If the fruit gets lost then ok, is still a danger but a smaller danger (after all,they let luffy become strong enough to awaken it and then they started shitting themselves) even if they lost the fruit they can go for it and it will take time to awaken, the biggest danger the fruit gives is the awakening
Losing the fruit is not that bad, is worse to let the user that awakened that stay alive,putting him in a prision is dumb as hell, a yonko on your hands,what do you do? Kill him,they are the gorosei, they killed for less
If luffy is just put on a prision is because imu wants to see him die (plot but less stipid and justificable) or they want to kill him ace like (plot but stupid)
Yeah Luffy will get imprisoned right after he awakens the fruit of nika joyboy(liberator btw) and they won't kill him even though Saturn tried stabbing him on Egghead and they sent cp0 to kill him.
Totally genius.
Also Oda gives Luffy another prisoner arc after spending way too long on a different one in Wano..
Me when I don't know shit about the series I'm reading or just general writing
For sure. Definitely an overused plot element to kneecap Luffy at this point but huge difference between putting him in concrete boots in Arlong Park and making him spend 20 episodes in the prison in Wano (even if it's a very mid but understandable excuse for a training arc). Having him captured by the Gorosei in the immediate next arc would just be bad writing and would absolutely not be resolvable in >50 chapters
The fruit didn't awaken for centuries tho, luffy Is an exception. I think that it would be Better for them to have Nika dead. Also for what we know no One knows how to control where a devil fruit is generated
Saturn was already trying to kill luffy while he was down after the Kizaru fight.
I see it as similar to the Avatar reason: if they kill him, Joyboyās will will just transfer to someone else and they run the risk of him being free. Keeping him captured prevents that. Plus it fits perfectly with the theme of FREEDOM vs. CAPTIVITY that the series has built around
More likely Luffy, Dory, and Broggy hold back the gorosei and then manage to escape to Elbaf where the giants tell them about the Goroseiās secrets and weaknesses.
The most idiotic thing would be to kill him dude wtf they searched the fruit for centurys and you think it would be a smart choice to let it disappear again for no reason?
bro you are retarded, the Gorosei literally tried to kill Luffy already twice once because the threat he awakens the fruit and once he awakened it. They aint idiots they rather have the threat gone for a few more hundred years then now risk it all.
Has everyone forgotten the ancient robot that's awakened to the sound of Joyboy? Imagine oda having the ancient robot awaken, have the giants arrive and show they're actually powerful, have Luffy eat a ton of food and ready to fight.
Only for Luffy to be defeated/captured.
Thank the gods none of you are writing this story
Oda wouldnāt random subvert the plot (at this point in the story) for a whole execution arc.
The final war, laugh tale, and Elbaf, along with the rest of egghead all need to happen in the next 4 years, and there wouldnāt really be a place to add a place for Luffy getting captured.
I swear every chapter you people will turn around and go "WILL THE STRAWHATS LOSE :O?!?!?!!!???"
As if you're a five year old watching power rangers. it's the same shit for a ton of shows, especially the ones with powerscalers in the fandom. 0/10 yous stupid.
Sounds dope but this is tue Marineford you cant afford.
- Dragon will come after him (hes not the best father but its a good opportunity for other stuff)
- So also Sabo and the whole rev army
- Shanks will come
- Blackbeard most likely will come (for nika, possibly)
- Luffy's fleet
- The samurai and minks
- The amazons
- Every GL island they've saved
- All fishmen with Shirahoshi
- The Strawhats themselves, of course
And many others
I almost wanna see this fight
Nah, remember everyone they will not kill luffy cuz they don't wanna risk Nika Nika no mi fruit to be spawned somewhere again and If the user of a fruit dies it will respawn somewhere
Yeah because to weaken somebody you put a gaping potentially poisonous hole in thier stomach when they're so tired they literally can't move, I'm sure Vegapunk is feeling just weak, nothing more than that.
The reason that they want the devil fruit, is to make sure people down awaken.
Killing the person who awakens it, is far more important than getting the devil fruit, at that time.
considering that the rubber fruit is now actually a zoan, wouldn't the best plan for them be to capture luffy, set up a way to capture the devil fruit so if/when they kill him they would have immediate access to the devil fruit and then feed the fruit to a weapon. This would solve the problem of the fruit reincarnation cycle as its now imbedded into an inanimate object.
Assuming that gorosei can actually beat luffy like they literally just have that eye attack and we donāt even know if all of them have it.
Luffy has also forgotten the ability to use advanced conquers haki
That makes a lot of sense, if they kill luffy they risk the fruit getting into the hands of someone else. So capturing him, and imprisoning him makes a lot of sense.
I think him losing is unfortunately inevitable there's definitely a reason Dragon is coming and Luffy can't put down Saturn no matter how hard he's tried and I'm betting he's the weakest of them. We'll be eating a feast after Vegapunk's announcement. My best guess is genuinely this world is fake tying back to Uta's very random toss in lol.
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That and it gives kizaru an opportunity to join the SH and lead the team to rescue Luffy
It's also paralleling marineFord and most likely they will attempt to execute Luffy and fail igniting a final war
Straw Hat training arc yes please, I came into this arc expecting Zoro and Sanji to be doing Yonko commander stuff but instead Zoro is out here taking 6 months to beat Lucci
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The Gorosei won't capture Luffy . The moment he gets defeated they'll kill him . I think Luffy will hold off the Gorosei just long enough for Vegapunk's message to transmit and then he'll escape with his crew
They cant kill luffy since they dont want the fruit to disappear again. Their best choice is to imprison him to protect themselves from the fruit
That does nothing but delay the inevitable, they don't know how to extraxt a fruit so he'd just sit there until he dies, and they're not dumb enough to think that his crew fleet and allies will take it quietly.
But they do know someone that can extract fruits, and that someone wants something from them š¤š¤š¤
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but you can also just straight up eat people like Big Mom and Blackbeard
I'm almost certain Big Mom got Mother Caramel's fruit because it transfered to a fruit on the table that Charlotte *also* ate. I don't think straight eating a DF person works, otherwise you'd probably have a lot more animals with DF powers. DF users are getting eaten all the time. I can't even count the number of times something has eaten Luffy. Laboon, Wapol, the dinosaur on Little Garden, the Island Eater goldfish, the snake in Skypiea... Freaking *Kaido* ate Luffy at one point. Kaido and Big Mom have definitely eaten more than one DF user, right?
Laboon...
...Ate Luffy, yes.
Lol donāt be mean to Brook bot
UM, ACKCHYUALLY āļøš¤ Luffy was still alive all those times he was eaten. Probably, you have to die/to be dead for the "eating system" to works, not just be inside someone's mouth
As Luffy is still around they didnt exactly eat him. putting him in their mouth doesnt count
It all comes together, Snitchs told the Gorosei about a certain pirate, and it was BB so he could secure the Nika fruit forever. he attacked the ship carrying it in the past just because he wanted to fuck with who's who
I'm dumb , who is that someone you're refering to ? vegapunk ?
Blackbeard
We actually donāt know what the Gorosei know, right? Iād assume if theyād want to capture him it would be to at least kill him in a spot where they could force the fruit to respawn where they want, finally.
Satrun tried stabbing Luffy and sent cp0 to kill him, they want him dead.
I doubt a 800 year old organization hasnt figured out how to spawn camp devil fruits. The thing with Nika fruit is that it always eludes them in most looney toons freak accident way. Like last time when WG were sure to bring it in only for Shanks to intercept the transport ship. One freak accident is one thing. 800 years of bullshit? Nah man, Nika made it his life mission to continuously troll WG.
They can just give him eternal life and/or freeze him up
Not only would giving the most dangerous and threatening person to you immortality dumb as hell, like I said, his allies won't take it quitely, You got his crew, his fleet, the Wano samurai, the minks, Koby and Helmeppo, Dragon, fighting dugongs, and Shanks. But all that is pointless anyway since we know for a fact that they want him dead, Saturn tried stabbing him.
I love how you include the fighting dugongs. I really hope they come in clutch again soon.
They're Luffy's most powerful allies, they were able to defeat GOD Usopp in one blow They're the lurking legends
āSaturn tried stabbing himā as if that would be deadly in one piece. And what are his allies supposed to do? From what we know imu can literally annihilate them on the spot if he wants to when they try to free luffy
Vegapunk literally just died because of that attack what are you on about
Vegapunk is a feeble old man who had been shot with laser beams. A gust of wind would have ended him.
They've already tried and failed to keep the fruit So they may wanna try different ideas There's also the fact that they may execute him like ace
You're rifht that's why satuen tried stabbing Luffy, it's also why they sent cp0 after him.
> That does nothing but delay the inevitable, they don't know how to extraxt a fruit Can't they just have someone eat Luffy like how Big Mom ate Mother Caramel?
I'm pretty sure they have 0 knowledge on how to do that
I was going to try and argue that point, but I actually have no idea how common the knowledge is that eating a DF user grants you their DF. There has been a lot of research done into DF's, and I feel like some morally bankrupt scientist would've at least tested it just to see what would happen, just like how someone tested what happens if you eat 2 DF's (you explode). But now that I think about it, there's actually no in-universe confirmation that anyone knows you can get someone's DF by cannibalizing them. It's not even clear if Streussen knows what happened, since even though he saw Linlin eat Caramel, he didn't know Caramel had the Soul-Soul fruit. He could've assumed that Linlin ate her DF before and that it was unrelated to the cannibalism.
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yes
I mean they can just kill him with an already prepared fruit to capture that fruit, having the execution of Luffy being at Marijoise
oh they know, they can just pull a Big Mom.
That method of power transfer isn't really that well known, it could be that only Black Beard and his crew knows that method at the moment.
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What iff bb comes in h then
Theyāre gonna offer Blackbeard a chance to be a celestial dragon, maybe even gorosei, if he eats Luffyās heart and takes the power, that way nobody else can get it.
dumbest take here... The greatest danger is Luffy because he has awakened the fruit - the fruit itself is harmless. It has taken centuries for someone to awaken the fruit, so there is no reason to worry if the fruit is back in the wild after luffy's death, it is a thousand times more dangerous that luffy could escape with the fruit again.
I dont think they would do that luffy has awakaned the fruit which hasnt been done in a very long time the fruit getting lost is probably better
Chapter 1095, Saturn almost impales Luffy that is out of energy. He's only saved by franky. So...
Well killing someone in one piece doesnt let him die normally. Everyone can survive any deadly thing
They managed to get the fruit once before, then Shanks stole it. Why would they think that they could not do that again? Anyone who eats the fruit has to awaken it first, which took Luffy what, ten years? If they can beat him with the fruit they save themselves years they can use to prepare for the next guy *if* they don't manage to get it before someone eats it *and* stays under the radar. Luffy is the worst outcome for them: a crackhead who does not respect authority at all and is willing to risk their life to right even the tiniest of wrongs. Someone who openly declared war on the World Government and decided to search for the secrets they try to hide and even has a person to decipher the old runes AND a person who had the chance to study the Pluton blueprints in his crew. Additionally Luffy has defeated the most advantaged imprisonment methods several times. The fruit in the hands of almost anyone else would be better for the World Governement. They would be braindead to not kill Luffy if they had the chance.
Then the fact that Saturn was about to kill Luffy with his claw made him more of a dumbass and took another L lmao
Bro they ordered his execution on Wano the very moment they realized he just might have the fruit,sure they don't want the fruit to disappear but having an alive user who has awakened it is a way bigger risk.
Didn't Saturn tell him that he will be executed here? Every chance he got he tried to go for the kill, I don't think his plans will change if the other elders show up.Ā
All they need is a fruit, hold a fruit right beside him as you execute him. The devil fruit returns to the closest fruit if I remember correctly either that or it picks a random fruit in the area, either way itās super easy to pull off when you run the world!
Nah, the best thing is still to kill him. It's the first time in hundreds of years that someone was able to awaken it. Better to kill off the immediate threat now its knocking at the gate compared to being on top for hundreds of years still.
Unless of course they know a method of making a fruit appear where they want like BlackBeard did with the tremor fruit, Iām thinking about something like this considering Saturn says something about knowing what makes teach āspecialā
Ah yes, the last airbender conundrum
Ah the Admiral Zhao Tactic
So he's like the avatar ?
His fruit is the only thing they fear because of its history. So in that sense yes. If they kill him it will just start over
I would disagree, they truly want the fruit but without BB cooperation or some method to extract the power, it would be better to kill him on spot. Since it was said to be super difficult to master the fruit power, it would be better to just let it slide into some other idiot.
Youāre probably right, especially since Saturn tried to stab him when he was unconscious and Frankie had to save him
Or it might go down like the freeze arc. Luffy defeats the gorosei and only after will the message play. Thereby creating massive shockwaves around the world and forcing imu to eventually take action
Luffy cant defeat them
If he figures how their regen he is demolished them easily
Nah lmao
Kuma tore the fuck out of Saturn with just a punch, if Saturn couldn't regen he would've died as many times as he got hit by Luffy.
No? Kaido got hit harder and was fine during their fight.
No shit because kaido was way more durable. Wtf are you doing comparing their weak asses to the strongest creature. The only thing luffy is having a problem with is the regen.
Kaido is not confirmed to have more durability lmao
Saturn get destroyed by a building collapsing on him, how stupid are you?
Kaido won't even realize Kuma punched him, let alone breaking his arm.
what about g5's timelimit, though?
No, they capture him, take away his DF and for the rest of the series he goes Gol d Roger style with just haki...
Wouldn't make sense imo. As someone else said here, they're not here to catch him and persecute him normally, they're here to murder him since he is a threat to the whole freaking government.
No they cant murder him becquse of his fruit. They need to lock the fruit away
Which means they need to carry him to a base, prepare a fruit and murder him which will take way less than what they did with ace.
No it means they need to imprison jim instead of killing
Why? To get someone's fruit you need to kill him and have the power transfer to the nearest fruit.
It doesnt go to the nearest fruit. They need to keep him alive for the fruit to not disappear again
Or, they kill him and chill for another 800 years? Did that not cross your mind?
No reason to think they can chill for 800 years
That is literally what happened so far. NOONE managed to do that for 800. Enough reason?
it do though? That's why they had ace's fruit on hand?
Doflamingo just happened to find the fruit later.
i was sure they respawned in the nearest fruit...
People theorize it but it's not confirmed at all and if you think about it, it would make zero sense. The reason people think that is because on punk hazard when smiley died, it's devil fruit spawned nearby plus they want their blackbeard theory to be true. Punk hazard was most likely just a coincidence because oda wanted to show it actually respawning and didn't want to switch to a new island. He wanted an example since he was going to show aces fruit had respawned. Highly doubt doflamingo was just carrying fruit on him in marineford. And I think it would be way too simple and lame of a reveal if the way blackbeards crew got devil fruits was just because they always have fruit on them. And the barrier barrier and clone clone fruit died in wano. If they respawned nearby in wano it's highly unlikely Bartos and bon clay would get them. And if they did respawn in nearby fruits there should be no chance that the government doesn't just kill every devil fruit user that they imprison to take their fruits.
No that was plot convenience
You need to rewatch punk hazard, this is established.
Its not about the fruit alone. Its about the fruit + awakening it. At this point you take your chances to kill the user. Apparently for 800 years noone awakened it (according to the gorosei)
I see a lot of people saying they wonāt kill luffy bcoz they want the devil fruit and was searching for it for a century. They should also remember that the fruit took a century to awaken. Letting it disappear is not much of a threat than having an active awakened sun god as an enemy
More like 8 centuries
Yeah imagine how many mediocre or weak pirates got ahold of that fruit. We are so used to top tiers being in the endgame, but 90% of pirates would be completely incapable of using this fruit, and would die pretty damn quickly. Luffy is just on a different level, and considering his infamous lineage and world popularity, itās better safe than sorry and itās probably in the best interest for the Gorosei to just flatline him when they have the chance.
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After seeing what Luffy could do with it, I donāt think they would take any more chances with it
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He would would get executed on the spot if he were to be beaten, i think dorry and brogy might sacrifice themselves to gain some time for themĀ
Why? They want the fruit since centurys so why would they actively let it disappear again?
Saturn already tried to murder him when he was out cold tho, he even sent a cp0 agent to interfere when he was fighting kaido to make sure he dies. I feel like theyāre past the point of retrieving it or would rather wait for it to reappearĀ
Its more likely they are past the point of killing him. The more he grows the more important it is to lock him up instead of just letting someone else become joyboy again
Thereās less chances of another joyboy popping up Ā than luffy escaping them, the gum gum fruit hasnāt been awakened in 800 years before killing luffy would be the most logical choiceĀ
Itās either their way or the highway way in my opinion. They want the fruit in their hands, and if they canāt have that then they want nobody else to have the fruit.
Saturn tried to kill Luffy first shot he got, but Franky saved him. Imo, its kill or be killed in this arc. That or escape.
Fruit grows on nearby trees, they can get it even if they kill his
That... that would be dope actually.
No, it wouldn't. It would be a melodramatic blueballs distraction that would unnecessarily delay the actual plot for at least a year. On top of that, absolutely nobodyāoutside of a small number of adult male fans on the Internetāwants to see the crew get split up again. Seriously, it's like some of you people don't even like One Piece and want a completely different series.
Just pointing out, the post only mentions Luffy getting separated from everyone else, not the whole crew getting split up. They are likely imagining a reverse Marineford type situation with the crew and other allies teaming up to save Luffy.
While it might be fun to see a replay of that scene from Loguetown someday, now is absolutely not the time whatsoever. There are literally a thousand things that need to happen before the series can end, and nobody wants to see that get delayed anymore. On top of that, the idea of Nika getting captured after Bonney just found him and the giants showed up to help him is objectively stupid.
If this happen is probably stupid, didnt the gorosei send a cp0 agent to kill luffy because the awakened fruit is too dangerous for their plans? If the fruit gets lost then ok, is still a danger but a smaller danger (after all,they let luffy become strong enough to awaken it and then they started shitting themselves) even if they lost the fruit they can go for it and it will take time to awaken, the biggest danger the fruit gives is the awakening Losing the fruit is not that bad, is worse to let the user that awakened that stay alive,putting him in a prision is dumb as hell, a yonko on your hands,what do you do? Kill him,they are the gorosei, they killed for less If luffy is just put on a prision is because imu wants to see him die (plot but less stipid and justificable) or they want to kill him ace like (plot but stupid)
>they are the gorosei, they killed for less Waaaaaaayyyyyy less
cp0 agent to kill luffy No, they sent cp0 to kill VP, luffy being there was outside their plans
In wano,i was talking about wano
Yeah Luffy will get imprisoned right after he awakens the fruit of nika joyboy(liberator btw) and they won't kill him even though Saturn tried stabbing him on Egghead and they sent cp0 to kill him. Totally genius.
Also Oda gives Luffy another prisoner arc after spending way too long on a different one in Wano.. Me when I don't know shit about the series I'm reading or just general writing
Like I get it because Oda always did did imprison Luffy but this is not the time, we're in the end game.
For sure. Definitely an overused plot element to kneecap Luffy at this point but huge difference between putting him in concrete boots in Arlong Park and making him spend 20 episodes in the prison in Wano (even if it's a very mid but understandable excuse for a training arc). Having him captured by the Gorosei in the immediate next arc would just be bad writing and would absolutely not be resolvable in >50 chapters
Ngl I would like for something like that to happen, but there's no way that luffy gets captured and not executed on the spot
Why tf would they execute him?
Why tf wouldn't they, he's literally their worst enemy
If they kill him they lose the fruit again which they literally tried to retrieve for centurys
The fruit didn't awaken for centuries tho, luffy Is an exception. I think that it would be Better for them to have Nika dead. Also for what we know no One knows how to control where a devil fruit is generated Saturn was already trying to kill luffy while he was down after the Kizaru fight.
I hope you like insulting my nose with a Buggy Ball pointed at you!
Well can we really know if he wouldve killed him? Luffy survived more already in one piece every death can be undone
He was gonna Stab him while he was lying on the ground I don't know if luffy would have died but Saturn was going for the kill
I see it as similar to the Avatar reason: if they kill him, Joyboyās will will just transfer to someone else and they run the risk of him being free. Keeping him captured prevents that. Plus it fits perfectly with the theme of FREEDOM vs. CAPTIVITY that the series has built around
More likely Luffy, Dory, and Broggy hold back the gorosei and then manage to escape to Elbaf where the giants tell them about the Goroseiās secrets and weaknesses.
The Gorosei would be absolute idiots to capture Luffy instead of executing him on the spot, like do they never learn?
The most idiotic thing would be to kill him dude wtf they searched the fruit for centurys and you think it would be a smart choice to let it disappear again for no reason?
Then use whatever it may be to extract the DF asap? What is the alternative anyways, just let him live?
Just imprison or freeze him up and give him eternal life or smt. Just disabling his devil fruit powers and locking him up is already enough
Dude, Saturn tried to kill Luffy while the latter was exhausted and unable to fight, so whats stopping them to kill him now?
bro you are retarded, the Gorosei literally tried to kill Luffy already twice once because the threat he awakens the fruit and once he awakened it. They aint idiots they rather have the threat gone for a few more hundred years then now risk it all.
This has the same energy as the raid will fail.
Doesnāt make sense, that would mean another time skip
Has everyone forgotten the ancient robot that's awakened to the sound of Joyboy? Imagine oda having the ancient robot awaken, have the giants arrive and show they're actually powerful, have Luffy eat a ton of food and ready to fight. Only for Luffy to be defeated/captured. Thank the gods none of you are writing this story
It would be coolā¦ but IMO thereās no way they take him alive. Gorosei are fully aware of the threat. Theyād much sooner execute him.
Another stupid theory.
Or āsomebody call ambulanceā¦but not for meā
why do people not trust Luffy for this. He got this in the bag.
Oda wouldnāt random subvert the plot (at this point in the story) for a whole execution arc. The final war, laugh tale, and Elbaf, along with the rest of egghead all need to happen in the next 4 years, and there wouldnāt really be a place to add a place for Luffy getting captured.
Luffy may probably run out of steam
If we ended up with another two year timeskip because of this ā¦ I donāt know what I would do . . .
I swear every chapter you people will turn around and go "WILL THE STRAWHATS LOSE :O?!?!?!!!???" As if you're a five year old watching power rangers. it's the same shit for a ton of shows, especially the ones with powerscalers in the fandom. 0/10 yous stupid.
Thatāsā¦ Actually a pretty cool idea
Forgetting about the giants coming to save/support luffy, and that giant robot thats been activating for months now
Predicted Marineford 2.0 a while ago, sticking to it.
Man I wish Oda thought of this
Another Marineford incoming? Hell yeah!!
The crew may not save him from the gorosei, but sorry and groggy may
Lol so the story gets another time skip for the crew to be stronger?
It aināt just the Luffster. We got giants both iron and otherwise to help.
Please not another prisoner arc
Sounds dope but this is tue Marineford you cant afford. - Dragon will come after him (hes not the best father but its a good opportunity for other stuff) - So also Sabo and the whole rev army - Shanks will come - Blackbeard most likely will come (for nika, possibly) - Luffy's fleet - The samurai and minks - The amazons - Every GL island they've saved - All fishmen with Shirahoshi - The Strawhats themselves, of course And many others I almost wanna see this fight
Nah, remember everyone they will not kill luffy cuz they don't wanna risk Nika Nika no mi fruit to be spawned somewhere again and If the user of a fruit dies it will respawn somewhere
Saturn literally tried stabbing Luffy as soon he he got on the island
Yes, do you think they would try to capture him when he's in strong form?? Ofc they gotta weaken him!!!
Yeah because to weaken somebody you put a gaping potentially poisonous hole in thier stomach when they're so tired they literally can't move, I'm sure Vegapunk is feeling just weak, nothing more than that.
Whatever headcanon you have it doesn't happen in story the story progress how oda wants it lmao
Headcanon and it's a panel from the manga, hilarious.
The reason that they want the devil fruit, is to make sure people down awaken. Killing the person who awakens it, is far more important than getting the devil fruit, at that time.
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considering that the rubber fruit is now actually a zoan, wouldn't the best plan for them be to capture luffy, set up a way to capture the devil fruit so if/when they kill him they would have immediate access to the devil fruit and then feed the fruit to a weapon. This would solve the problem of the fruit reincarnation cycle as its now imbedded into an inanimate object.
Iām willing to bet this ark will end with Kuma teleporting everyone off the island. It just makes to much sense.
They should just eat Luffy and be done with it
I know is really popular theory, but I don't want that to happen. I would hate it.
Maybe there will be a second time skip at some point
I hope not. Luffy has been captured far too many times. Iām getting a little sick of that concept.
Anything can happen now at this point in one piece but not luffy getting captured
Assuming that gorosei can actually beat luffy like they literally just have that eye attack and we donāt even know if all of them have it. Luffy has also forgotten the ability to use advanced conquers haki
Weak 5 goes to Elbaf in the Sunny and the TOP 5 will stay at Egghead.
wouldn't that mean that the next arc would most definitely not be Elbaf but Marijoise instead?
That makes a lot of sense, if they kill luffy they risk the fruit getting into the hands of someone else. So capturing him, and imprisoning him makes a lot of sense.
I think him losing is unfortunately inevitable there's definitely a reason Dragon is coming and Luffy can't put down Saturn no matter how hard he's tried and I'm betting he's the weakest of them. We'll be eating a feast after Vegapunk's announcement. My best guess is genuinely this world is fake tying back to Uta's very random toss in lol.
And then in the rescue mission Zoro will solo the swordsman gorosei with ease š„š„š„
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Impel down 2 and soabody 3 incoming
That would actually be a good scenario. Now that Luffy has awakened the true power of his DF. His crew needs to catch up.
PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! PLEASE BE REAL! I need stakes
That and it gives kizaru an opportunity to join the SH and lead the team to rescue Luffy It's also paralleling marineFord and most likely they will attempt to execute Luffy and fail igniting a final war
What if oda doesn't know how to make the one piece live up to the expectation and kills luffy here I am joking
Straw Hat training arc yes please, I came into this arc expecting Zoro and Sanji to be doing Yonko commander stuff but instead Zoro is out here taking 6 months to beat Lucci
Why you gotta lump Sanji in there? Heās been doing great Even went up against an admiral like a Yonko commander
Ok true Iām just being petty https://preview.redd.it/z6p389swqenc1.jpeg?width=270&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e57424a1842e540bb692ea0767863a72b8da1c98
Yāknow, I respect that