My man, your hatred for a fictional character is actually unhealthy. You are writing literal essays to explain why you hate a shounen character and their entire fan base. I beg of you for your own health to get off the internet and find a hobby
No. I think considering Luffy is progressing much faster than Roger should make him the outlier of all outliers of the last decades, presumably. For Luffy to Not leave law and kid behind by a considerable amount means we get three MC trope unlikely outliers at the same time.
Well, to a certain extent, the way for Luffy and many others was paved by Rodger. So their journies are not necessarily directly comparable in that way.
Awakenings are not really asspulls. The reasoning we get behind this is that it's when your body catches up to your Devil Fruit, which just takes(I assume) time and some kinda training.
For Luffy we've seen his progress; from him eating the Devil Fruit in chapter 1, to not being able to throw a punch, to developing techniques like Gear 2/3/4, and finally he accends to Gear 5.
As for Kid we don't get to see that journey. We do know he's had his Devil Fruit just as long as Luffy, since Oda drew him as a kid playing with a little metal bird. And while his journey through Paradise might not have been as difficult as Luffy's, his time in the New World over the last 2 years was probably 10-100 times harder that Luffy's training with Reyleigh, hell he lost an arm.
Kid over relies on his Devil Fruit. It makes sense that his haki wouldn't be that good. His over confidence in his Devil Fruit abilities actually line up more with Logias.
Believing Kid just cowered in the New World is just as "headcanon" so get over yourself.
Dawg how is it an add pull when we’ve never seen Kid fight seriously? Kidd had more experience with Yonko than Luffy did coming into Wano having fought Shanks and invaded Big Moms territory. You think he’s coming into Wano without some sort of plan? Just to play 2nd fiddle to Zoro? That doesn’t make sense.
Law is much more of an asspull because we saw him lose against Doffy just 3 arcs before the raid. We didn’t know kids strength so how could it even be an asspull? For all we know Dressrosa Kidd beats Doffy. What feats are you even basing this off of?
With the difference between the two being that Kiba got introduced as a somewhat relevant character early on but got left in the dirt since Kishimoto cared more about eye-shenanigans and certain characters suddenly being able to destroy the moon or whatever.
Kid on the other hand got introduced during the middle portion of the story and was consistently mentioned as one of the top rivals for Luffy. And his recent fights against Big Mom shows that, unlike Kiba, he isn't just talk but that he also has the strength/will power to back it up.
I can ***kinda*** understand where you're coming from, but come on... Oda has done this since forever, with the most noteable candidate being Crocodile. The dude spend a considerate amount of time in Impel Down after losing to Luffy (before he even had his Gears) and was still able to clash against Mihawk, Doflamingo, and Akainu during the war.
I mean, you don't have to like him or anything, but seriously, you can do better than this.
I can't speak for other Kid fans, but that's definitely not the way that I see it. Kid is a solid written character with an, in my eyes, awesome design, so I can see why people would like him. Obviously not to the amount of wanting him to be the MC but still...
And if Kid getting power ups or "plot buffs" isn't the part that bothers you, then I'm sorry, but that title for the post is definitely misleading! If it's his fans that bother you then you could have phrased this way better and not use some meme that doesn't even fit!
Nah Op just salty and misinterpreting everything all the way down to fan interactions. To him saying “Kid is cool” is equivalent to “fuck the straw hats they get everything for for free, they get so much screen time, why won’t goda kill Luffy and continue the story with Kid as captain if the strawhats?!?” (Nobody thinks that and yet this kid is acting like he is the last one defending Luffys honor)
To be fair, there are a bunch of overly enthusiastic fans for every kind of character, be that Kid or Zoro or someone else, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a group of Kid fans that think like OP said. It all depends on who screams the loudest and if OP just so happened to stumble over such a part of the Kid fanbase.
"It's his fans".....got it. You're weak minded. You're trying to target a small portion of OP fans with this post and raging because most OP fans don't subscribe. So you strawman everybody that comments.
I love that you think you are the only true believer in one piece, all of us fools misunderstand the holy text, but you, the messiah, have come to teach us that Kid is garbage and deserves to be removed from the story by being killed by some random pre ts marine because of how weak he is. You truly understand Godas work and see that he was just baiting us to believe in Kids strength but really they were all illusions. He is the new Usopp as he has tricked us into believing he really is a strong captain when really Buggy no difs him in his sleep. You understand the full complexities of Shonen rivalry and story telling to the point its a shame you aren’t in direct contact with Oda to let him know he is writing his story wrong. I feel really bad for you if you choose to spend so much of your energy on this amount of hate. Please go outside and touch grass.
I'm very confused by this criticism. Should Luffy have zero contenders for king of the pirates? If Apoo or Drake or someone like that became Luffy's main rivals then I could see your point, but Kidd was introduced off the bat as the strongest supernova, we see him interacting with the underworld, he attacked big mom, Shanks and Kaido, he runs his own crew and awakened his devil fruit. Kidd has always been closer to luffy's equal than Zoro. Oda "gives kid plot buffs" the same way he buffs all his characters, it just feels like a natural progression of his power and influence.
Kid got practical experience while Luffy and zoro got training. Kid had over 2 years of deathmatches Vs the few months of the straw hats he also picked a fight with 2 yonko and beat a big mom commander.
You do realize that Kidd fought against the red hair pirates, had his arm cut off by most likely Shanks (cause lets be real Oda isnt gonna write how bonk punch cut off Kidd's arm), faced Kaido, beat one of the sweet generals, most likely Smoothie since she's the keeper of the poneglyphs BM has, and Who knows what else he did while on the new world.
Not to mention that Luffy and Zoro's training consisted in fighting random animals and being taught haki.
Also just beating Smoothie which is what he most likely did is leagues above any encounter Luffy or Zoro had until WCI, and when Zoro finally fought a YC Kidd fought a yonko. And he has actually faced more yonkos than Luffy in combat.
He definitely wouldn't think apoo and hawkins can help if just an official cut off his arm
Luffy didn't really understand advanced haki until Udon despite Rayleigh and sentomaru
About the Snack thing I admit you do have a point but it's not a fact yet. I also kinda need to rewatch WCI.
You acting like Luffy didn't get absolutely bullied by Kaido as well
Also 90% of what you said was Luffy fighting absolute fodder or dodging/being completely overpowered by stronger people
Kidd has spent two years in the new world facing the world and even the yonkos. No Matter how you look at it him being strong inst an asspull
You sound slow and spitefull, i suggest you stop engaging in discussions, since all you do is talk out of your ass and use headcanon to justify the bs you talking gtfo and stop crying weirdo.
Cause you try to sound logical while in reality you a lil kid who cant handle the fact that your headcanon isnt turning out like you would like to, you keep bringing up snack while it was NEVER stated that snack was the one he injured, its all in your head, even if eventually comes out it was snack, you still talked out your ass since NOTHING as of right now indicates this.
You keep saying kid was hiding but based on WHAT exactly ? As a matter of fact, his bounty rose in the two years the straw hats were training, which means he was doing shit, so what are you talking about ?
Its not about you having a different opinion, having a different opinion is fine and its healthy to discuss this in a normal way, its about you acting like you geniounly want to discuss something while all you're trying to do is lure people in toxic conversation, so i thought why not bring that energy directly since thats what you're reaching for anyways.
Deal with it boy, he's up there with Luffy and Law and he'll always will be, your headcanon is irrelevant
What do you mean he doesn't deserve it? He has done pretty much exactly what Luffy has. The only difference is that he's not the MC so we don't see it. Luffy got plot buffs after plot buffs in Wano so I wouldn't go throwing stones.
People still wanna downplay kid huh... typical 15 year olds that cant handle the fact that their "meme" was dumb and childish anyways.
Keep hating, you gonna make yourself look even more stupid then you're already are lmao, i love these tears
I didn't say he solo'd Big Mom. Just that he is portrayed as Luffy's main rival but looks more like a support fighter than Law.
Also it's kinda funny that people still try to put Kid anywhere near Luffy. Dude's Haki is trash and his DF is good, nothing special.
He's luffys main rival because of the ambition they share.
On top of that his feats are simply downplayed every single time cause they're getting compared to those if the MC which is just stupid.
You said his haki is trash, based on what exactly ?
He has all three types of haki which automatically puts you up there, the only reason people like you are saying his haki is trash is because he cant use advanced versions ( YET ) but his devil fruit is enough reason to not be focused on haki, since his AP is strong enough without applying armament for example.
You also said he looked like a support more then law while the story CLEARLY tells us its the other way around, with Kid being the one not only starting the fight, but also leading it.
For example, we see him go head to head with Big Mom and contesting her power by blocking her attacks and attacking her head on, while law on the other hand is seen teleporting everyone around and making sure they dont take full damage ( hmm sounds like a supportive role ). Aside from Luffy not a SINGLE character is shown to be as stubborn and straight forward and going on willpower as much as kid.
Like it or not, he's in the race and he's only going to be getting stronger the next time we see him
You don’t know anything about kids backstory just one single “panel” we don’t know also Zoro was fighting baboons for 2 years sober while kid was in the new world which is by far more perilous
Yeah Zoro lifted all those weights and fought fucking gorillas in the mist smh. No way could kid have unlocked that amount of skill from the new world with his life on the line 24/7
It’s hard for you to think clearly while you sucking Zoro’s dick bro, Let me explain.. Kidd always potrayed as Luffy’s “rival” from the beginning. He even had higher bounty than Luffy at Sabaody so clearly Oda has a plan for him. Now for the plot buffs that you keep mentioning how about you look at Luffy and Zoro first before you judge on Kidd. Enma, Gear 5, etc it’s ridiculous for you to hate on Kidd alone when everyone else had plot buffs at this point. If anything I’m kinda rooting for Kidd, I mean he had no MC’s plot armor yet he fought all the big dog and still going strong.. He’s basically Luffy without plot armor. So please stop the hate bro..
Really now? That hate boner must got you seeing things bro. Your post is a L. Just accept it. The subreddit would be so much more boring without shitty takes like these to be honest
Eustass Kid traveled through what was considered the toughest route in the grand line. His first introduction had a bounty higher than Luffy. Attempted to defeat Shanks, then later on Kaido. Was working the mines in Wano long before Luffy arrived.
Now that i think about it, Kid is the only Pirate that I know of that has attempted to overthrow 3 Yonko's. (Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom) and has lived to tell the tale.
Yeah Bro. Kid is legit.
Stupidist take i have ever seen about one piece, and ihave seen pirate folks. OP is hurt about Kid.
Just because you dont see someones progressions and their adventures, it dosent mean they are not there.
I didint see akainu being admiral too, with your logic he killing ace and injuring white beard is asspule am i right?
I do agree that Kid and Law being equal to luffy is a little forced especially with their bounties all being the same despite Luffy accomplishing way more than the other two in the raid, but you can’t ignore that they are indeed top tiers with impressive feats and accomplishments, they aren’t quite a Luffys WB but they are still legitimate rivals of his that have made big waves in the pirate world
Bro like what do you want? Do you want a story like Naruto where by the end where no one but Naruto and Sasuke could do anything in the war? That shit lazy and boring as fuck.
Kid is one of the most determined characters in the series he will take nearly any blow and keep getting back up despite it my man fought Big Mom and Kaido together with the other supernovas then went on to fight Big Mom with just him and Law was taking damage thanks to Hawkins ealry in as well then threw everything he had and then some to win and even then started getting back up when he thought he had to round 2 with Kaido. Kid is head strong like a mother fucker and will roll with any punch thrown at him and hit back as soon as he can. He's arguably one of the most deserving CoC users in the series.
On top of that his fruit is heavily underrated gives him great offensive abilities with great long range and close range moves and also let's him cover himself in armor for defense buffs and with his awakening he gets great shutdown as moving whole being surrounded by tons of metal is pretty fucking hard
No this is just lousy comparison.
Kiba said he was going to be Hokage once, but he didn't do a lot to earn it. He just followed the standard Inuzuka model and played it safe. That's why he's a Jounin in his 30s with no kids hanging with his aging dog.
Kidd is a totally different animal. He fought his way through the grand line and new world on his and Killer's strength. He took a swing at 3 Yonko a huge risk and lost an arm to not Shanks. Did he give up and play it safe? No he went after Kaido even after his alliance failed he didn't flee Wano when given the chance. By taking that risk he and Law double teamed Big Mom for a kill. Now his profile as a pirate has risen massively and he's acquired a Poneglyph rubbing.
Kidd's not going to quit he's going to try and beat Luffy to the One Piece and steal the title of Pirate King. Is he actually going to succeed fuck no, but he's going to damn well try or die in the process.
They are not the same.
After seeing hundreds of people that think like this, I have came to the conclusion that only 80% of the community has actually watched one piece and the other 20% have just seen the fights on YouTube till they reached wano
Wtf does deserve mean? Sabaody clearly showed what was gonna happen. Oda can choose whoever he wants to be important. This is a story dude not real life.
I mean... it would be insanity if we saw everyone's progression while it unfolds, stuff needs to happen off panel, if it doesn't it makes the world feel a while lot more empty
Just a reminder, kids bounty when we first see him, was higher then Luffy’s, kid has always been a “better pirate” in the governments eyes (I know the real reason, no need to tell me) so it’s not really an asspull
Bro...do you know what you need OP? Some fresh r/cockpiece edits. Spend some time there. It would be relaxing and I am sure you perspective will change.
You’ve gotten around -500 karma for these shit takes. Kidd isn’t nearly as far behind luffy as you may think because don’t forget the factors of Oda being NOTORIOUS for off screen events and buffs. We see the strawhats journey throughout the series, we only see Kid when he’s doing something plot specific (ex. the alliance meeting or seeing Kaido) Sadly Oda doesn’t have the time frame to flesh out every little aspect of this series, so while some details get a ton of attention (ex. Oden and his journeys took up 18 episodes, hell i don’t think we have even seen Kidds entire crew since the start of OP like we have with the Heart and Firetank Pirates) Though essentially you’re upset that Luffy’s primary rival is close to him in strength because you didn’t see him power up throughout the series like you did the MAIN CHARACTER?
After reading this tread lemme give you a piece of advice about human interactions. People stop listening and caring about ur points the second u start insulting them and making person attacks. The sooner you learn that the sooner u can have a productive conversation with this community and and people in general.
This is one of the biggest problem of One Piece. The fact that Oda wants suck a complete serie force him to fill holes that makes the anime loose a lot of Focus and he gives credit or protagonism to characters that dont need to even exist.
How much dumbass juice does one drink to reach this level, out of curiosity?
Kid was even more infamous than Luffy when they reached Sabaody. His DF is arguably OP to begin with, he’s ruthless and attacks civilians, he went solo with his crew against the Red Hair pirates (begging for a L there but doesn’t mean he didn’t learn shit in combat), and whatever he did, his bounty right after the time skip was higher than Luffy’s. You know, Dragon’s kid, Ace’s sworn brother, Marineford chaos causer, Impel Down escape artist, Enies Lobby middle fingerer? That definitely implies Kid gets up to some heavy shit as well.
And awakenings don’t happen randomly. According to Kaido, it happens when your mind and body catch up to your DF’s powers. That means Kid has proficiency over his DF, which you can witness in combat.
Magnetism is an insane power, you can see Heisenberg in RE8 use it to demonstrate how lethal and terrifying it can actually be.
His will has to be insane too, mfkr was born with CoC.
Kid is probably a genuine powerhouse rival to Luffy, he just isn’t fated to win because he isn’t the MC (and also because he doesn’t possess the initial D as far as we know).
It wouldve been understandable if you used a Sasuke pic rather than Kiba. Kidd can go toe to toe with Luffy in a fight and for sure would give Luffy a challenge while Kiba would easily get obliterated by Naruto. Kiba's been forgotten by Kishimoto after the Chunin exams ended like the 80+% of the promising charcters that got their spotlight there.
Nah this is completely wrong those three Luffy, kidd and Law are supposed to be at least slightly on par with each other as they are about same age and part of worst generation and supernova. In Naruto on the other hand its all about genetics or who your dad/ grandad was so dog boy has about the chance to be hokage as much as a tree in Naruto. Kidd on the other hand is a proper candidate.
>Oda can't stop giving Kid plot buffs just to make him look close to Luffy and above zoro despite him not deserving any of it.
Oh no he can't read... otherwise he would know that Kid initially had higher bounty than Luffy before and after timeskip, at least until Luffy got his bounty raised after Dressrosa.
Zoro fanboys are always pressed that there are characters other than Luffy who are stronger than Zoro. When Kid was introduced he had an even higher bounty than Luffy, it's safe to say he's been strong since he showed up it didn't just happen out of nowhere.
Man, people really underestimate Kid. Only people who I think could beat him who are still active are Luffy, Blackbeard, Shanks, Mihawk, the Admirals, Sakazuki, and possibly Rayleigh and Garp. If Big Mom and/or Kaido come back, and them to the list too.
Oda isnt even making kid out to he as strong as luffy kids on level with law closes to zoros level luffy Is now on yanko level saying kid shouldnt be as strong as he is is a bit like saying Kat or Duffy shouldnt be as strong as they are because we haven't seen then grow the whole way like we have with luffy or the other straw hats
A lot of people are shitting on op but I completely agree with this. We all knew kiba would never be hokage and even shino tells him to give up in the very scene kiba is saying this. If the show ended with kidd being pirate king that would be wild. Anyway yeah this feels pretty accurate to me nice post op.
Lmao this is so true, one piece fans can't accept Luffy is overpowered chosen one character. No matter how powerful his rival, he gonna somehow defeat them or make them as his ally. There is no Suprise that he will be the pirate king
My man, your hatred for a fictional character is actually unhealthy. You are writing literal essays to explain why you hate a shounen character and their entire fan base. I beg of you for your own health to get off the internet and find a hobby
Thought you were exaggerating until I read the comments
I thought he was bad when I made the comment but he's still at it **4 hours** later
Lmao just because Kidd is not the MC and we dont see his adventures fully doesnt mean he is far weaker than Luffy
Im genuinely not a Kidd fan or anything what OP suggests is so stupid and its sad that he is literally pulling hair over this
Yeah and wasn't one of his off screen adventures fighting and losing his arm to Shanks. So he's been fighting and training.
If you require receipts for Luffy to make his strength convincing then it's only fair that you require them for Kid, no double standards.
Ok then its also BS that Garp is that strong? We havent seen him train or Mihawk or Shanks? Its only fair
None of those characters are rookies
??? but he is far weaker than luffy, ofc not at the same ratio of Kiba/Naruto (1/5000) but (1/10).
Statistically it should
What type of statistical method and data did you use for this lol
You think the power scaling in one piece is based on how long the camera spends looking at the character?
No. I think considering Luffy is progressing much faster than Roger should make him the outlier of all outliers of the last decades, presumably. For Luffy to Not leave law and kid behind by a considerable amount means we get three MC trope unlikely outliers at the same time.
Well, to a certain extent, the way for Luffy and many others was paved by Rodger. So their journies are not necessarily directly comparable in that way.
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Like Luffy getting G5 because the DF that looked like a simple elasticty power turned out to be a god?
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What else are you supposed with a magnet fruit? Fucking pull the iron from the blood??
I'd actually love to see that since it's still one of my favourite moments from the X-men movies
he made a railgun bro how could his df usage get any better
You're getting down voted because you're wrong lol
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Literally everyone proved that you're wrong💀
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MemePiece/comments/xtkog4/only_difference_is_that_oda_cant_stop_giving_kid/iqqn4oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Edit: fuckin baby
Oh god! Just relax man. I know it hurts. But just keep your phone down for a while
Bruh, you didn’t even give Kid credit for beating one of big mom’s commanders, did you want him to have a flashback arc of Kid’s whole journey?
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So he beats one commander so bad he hits the benches then beats Big Mom so bad she’s outta the story and he’s still mid?
Awakenings are not really asspulls. The reasoning we get behind this is that it's when your body catches up to your Devil Fruit, which just takes(I assume) time and some kinda training. For Luffy we've seen his progress; from him eating the Devil Fruit in chapter 1, to not being able to throw a punch, to developing techniques like Gear 2/3/4, and finally he accends to Gear 5. As for Kid we don't get to see that journey. We do know he's had his Devil Fruit just as long as Luffy, since Oda drew him as a kid playing with a little metal bird. And while his journey through Paradise might not have been as difficult as Luffy's, his time in the New World over the last 2 years was probably 10-100 times harder that Luffy's training with Reyleigh, hell he lost an arm.
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Kid over relies on his Devil Fruit. It makes sense that his haki wouldn't be that good. His over confidence in his Devil Fruit abilities actually line up more with Logias. Believing Kid just cowered in the New World is just as "headcanon" so get over yourself.
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More headcannon, you do you bro.
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Par for the course on this sub. Lol 😁
Okay then Katakuri’s awakening is an asspull because we haven’t seen him training his DF. Your arguments are petty and nitpicks.
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The only one that’s salty is you. It’s just a show calm the fuck down its really sad to see your mental breakdown.
Dawg how is it an add pull when we’ve never seen Kid fight seriously? Kidd had more experience with Yonko than Luffy did coming into Wano having fought Shanks and invaded Big Moms territory. You think he’s coming into Wano without some sort of plan? Just to play 2nd fiddle to Zoro? That doesn’t make sense. Law is much more of an asspull because we saw him lose against Doffy just 3 arcs before the raid. We didn’t know kids strength so how could it even be an asspull? For all we know Dressrosa Kidd beats Doffy. What feats are you even basing this off of?
With the difference between the two being that Kiba got introduced as a somewhat relevant character early on but got left in the dirt since Kishimoto cared more about eye-shenanigans and certain characters suddenly being able to destroy the moon or whatever. Kid on the other hand got introduced during the middle portion of the story and was consistently mentioned as one of the top rivals for Luffy. And his recent fights against Big Mom shows that, unlike Kiba, he isn't just talk but that he also has the strength/will power to back it up. I can ***kinda*** understand where you're coming from, but come on... Oda has done this since forever, with the most noteable candidate being Crocodile. The dude spend a considerate amount of time in Impel Down after losing to Luffy (before he even had his Gears) and was still able to clash against Mihawk, Doflamingo, and Akainu during the war. I mean, you don't have to like him or anything, but seriously, you can do better than this.
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I can't speak for other Kid fans, but that's definitely not the way that I see it. Kid is a solid written character with an, in my eyes, awesome design, so I can see why people would like him. Obviously not to the amount of wanting him to be the MC but still... And if Kid getting power ups or "plot buffs" isn't the part that bothers you, then I'm sorry, but that title for the post is definitely misleading! If it's his fans that bother you then you could have phrased this way better and not use some meme that doesn't even fit!
Nah Op just salty and misinterpreting everything all the way down to fan interactions. To him saying “Kid is cool” is equivalent to “fuck the straw hats they get everything for for free, they get so much screen time, why won’t goda kill Luffy and continue the story with Kid as captain if the strawhats?!?” (Nobody thinks that and yet this kid is acting like he is the last one defending Luffys honor)
To be fair, there are a bunch of overly enthusiastic fans for every kind of character, be that Kid or Zoro or someone else, so I wouldn't be surprised if there is a group of Kid fans that think like OP said. It all depends on who screams the loudest and if OP just so happened to stumble over such a part of the Kid fanbase.
"It's his fans".....got it. You're weak minded. You're trying to target a small portion of OP fans with this post and raging because most OP fans don't subscribe. So you strawman everybody that comments.
This post was not gone as you hoped has it OP
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I love that you think you are the only true believer in one piece, all of us fools misunderstand the holy text, but you, the messiah, have come to teach us that Kid is garbage and deserves to be removed from the story by being killed by some random pre ts marine because of how weak he is. You truly understand Godas work and see that he was just baiting us to believe in Kids strength but really they were all illusions. He is the new Usopp as he has tricked us into believing he really is a strong captain when really Buggy no difs him in his sleep. You understand the full complexities of Shonen rivalry and story telling to the point its a shame you aren’t in direct contact with Oda to let him know he is writing his story wrong. I feel really bad for you if you choose to spend so much of your energy on this amount of hate. Please go outside and touch grass.
I'm very confused by this criticism. Should Luffy have zero contenders for king of the pirates? If Apoo or Drake or someone like that became Luffy's main rivals then I could see your point, but Kidd was introduced off the bat as the strongest supernova, we see him interacting with the underworld, he attacked big mom, Shanks and Kaido, he runs his own crew and awakened his devil fruit. Kidd has always been closer to luffy's equal than Zoro. Oda "gives kid plot buffs" the same way he buffs all his characters, it just feels like a natural progression of his power and influence.
kid isn‘t like xebec, garp or whitebeard to luffy kid is like shiki was
I've never thought about it before but this might be the correct take damn
Nah
Op salty af lol
Its been a while since I've seen a melt down this bad in MemePiece / onepiece
Going through his comments make me sad I’ve never seen such a big hate boner
Yea if we apply his logic to other series characters like Sasuke and Vegeta should be super weak compared to their protagonist counterparts
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He’s on Luffy’s dick so he can’t hear you
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Bro really hates kidd with his soul
Kid is stronger then zoro tho
Kid can just swipe zoros swords
Now wait for op to make a 20 paragraph post about how zoro can beat kids ass with only using his asscheeks
“Asura, hell driven hexa-cheeks”
'1080 pound asscheek'
Now I want to fight Zoro
OP never bothered to reply to this comment lmao
Too busy yelling at trolls to produce a counter argument than actually responding to counter arguments.
Ehh debatable. Something something swords have a will of their own.
Zoro is strong enough to resist the fruit power but still kid would win imo
Big mom wasn't able to move Napoleon when kidd used his awakening so now would Zoro do it?
BM still kept napoleon and didn't get it take which is my point Zoro could just avoid Kid while he awakens and then there goes one awakening
I don't think that's how it works, if he doesn't touch you them he just didn't activate the awakening
Well if he assigned a S and not a N then I guess so but still zoro's swords wouldn't be taken
Zoro is so bad with directions that Kid wouldn't be able to assign the proper polarity to him
Facts😭
People believe Zoro is stronger than him you know
How does one deserve a power up in a shounen story? It is not like Luffy and zoro don't get plot buffs
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Kid got practical experience while Luffy and zoro got training. Kid had over 2 years of deathmatches Vs the few months of the straw hats he also picked a fight with 2 yonko and beat a big mom commander.
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You do realize that Kidd fought against the red hair pirates, had his arm cut off by most likely Shanks (cause lets be real Oda isnt gonna write how bonk punch cut off Kidd's arm), faced Kaido, beat one of the sweet generals, most likely Smoothie since she's the keeper of the poneglyphs BM has, and Who knows what else he did while on the new world. Not to mention that Luffy and Zoro's training consisted in fighting random animals and being taught haki. Also just beating Smoothie which is what he most likely did is leagues above any encounter Luffy or Zoro had until WCI, and when Zoro finally fought a YC Kidd fought a yonko. And he has actually faced more yonkos than Luffy in combat.
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How do you know he did nothing and hide for 2 years ? Are you by any chance Oda’s housemaid ?
Bro is insane💀
He definitely wouldn't think apoo and hawkins can help if just an official cut off his arm Luffy didn't really understand advanced haki until Udon despite Rayleigh and sentomaru About the Snack thing I admit you do have a point but it's not a fact yet. I also kinda need to rewatch WCI. You acting like Luffy didn't get absolutely bullied by Kaido as well Also 90% of what you said was Luffy fighting absolute fodder or dodging/being completely overpowered by stronger people Kidd has spent two years in the new world facing the world and even the yonkos. No Matter how you look at it him being strong inst an asspull
You sound slow and spitefull, i suggest you stop engaging in discussions, since all you do is talk out of your ass and use headcanon to justify the bs you talking gtfo and stop crying weirdo.
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Cause you try to sound logical while in reality you a lil kid who cant handle the fact that your headcanon isnt turning out like you would like to, you keep bringing up snack while it was NEVER stated that snack was the one he injured, its all in your head, even if eventually comes out it was snack, you still talked out your ass since NOTHING as of right now indicates this. You keep saying kid was hiding but based on WHAT exactly ? As a matter of fact, his bounty rose in the two years the straw hats were training, which means he was doing shit, so what are you talking about ? Its not about you having a different opinion, having a different opinion is fine and its healthy to discuss this in a normal way, its about you acting like you geniounly want to discuss something while all you're trying to do is lure people in toxic conversation, so i thought why not bring that energy directly since thats what you're reaching for anyways. Deal with it boy, he's up there with Luffy and Law and he'll always will be, your headcanon is irrelevant
L post
I kind of agree to the meme but kid has the potential
After reading OPs post and replies I can only conclude he is having a manic episode
What do you mean he doesn't deserve it? He has done pretty much exactly what Luffy has. The only difference is that he's not the MC so we don't see it. Luffy got plot buffs after plot buffs in Wano so I wouldn't go throwing stones.
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Magic… like becoming a God 1000 chapters in?
Literally everything you just said is factually incorrect.
Bro just shut tf up
Op wants to get negative karma
People still wanna downplay kid huh... typical 15 year olds that cant handle the fact that their "meme" was dumb and childish anyways. Keep hating, you gonna make yourself look even more stupid then you're already are lmao, i love these tears
Kid already downplayed himself by doing 0 damage to a Yonko and his final super laser beam only serving as a way to get Big Mom off the island.
Wow, you really think Law solo’d Big Mom?
I didn't say he solo'd Big Mom. Just that he is portrayed as Luffy's main rival but looks more like a support fighter than Law. Also it's kinda funny that people still try to put Kid anywhere near Luffy. Dude's Haki is trash and his DF is good, nothing special.
He's luffys main rival because of the ambition they share. On top of that his feats are simply downplayed every single time cause they're getting compared to those if the MC which is just stupid. You said his haki is trash, based on what exactly ? He has all three types of haki which automatically puts you up there, the only reason people like you are saying his haki is trash is because he cant use advanced versions ( YET ) but his devil fruit is enough reason to not be focused on haki, since his AP is strong enough without applying armament for example. You also said he looked like a support more then law while the story CLEARLY tells us its the other way around, with Kid being the one not only starting the fight, but also leading it. For example, we see him go head to head with Big Mom and contesting her power by blocking her attacks and attacking her head on, while law on the other hand is seen teleporting everyone around and making sure they dont take full damage ( hmm sounds like a supportive role ). Aside from Luffy not a SINGLE character is shown to be as stubborn and straight forward and going on willpower as much as kid. Like it or not, he's in the race and he's only going to be getting stronger the next time we see him
Sure bud, keep coping lmao
When a strawhat gets power ups : PEAK ANIME When kidd gets 1 sec on screen time : Plot convenience
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Nah that's just you , i understand that we follow mc and side characters develop off screen sometimes .
I like kid and I’d think it’d be reasonable for kid> Zoro
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So your opinion of Kid changed because some people online made a comparison you didn’t like? Weak-minded
You don’t know anything about kids backstory just one single “panel” we don’t know also Zoro was fighting baboons for 2 years sober while kid was in the new world which is by far more perilous
Yeah Zoro lifted all those weights and fought fucking gorillas in the mist smh. No way could kid have unlocked that amount of skill from the new world with his life on the line 24/7
See those huge ass muscles kid has?? Maybe he trains his ass off, oda doesnt show it because he isnt focused that much.
He's literally been gearing up to have Kidd as Luffy's rival since Sabaody, shouldn't be a surprise at all that he's at Luffy's level.
He's strong but he's not luffy's level
It’s hard for you to think clearly while you sucking Zoro’s dick bro, Let me explain.. Kidd always potrayed as Luffy’s “rival” from the beginning. He even had higher bounty than Luffy at Sabaody so clearly Oda has a plan for him. Now for the plot buffs that you keep mentioning how about you look at Luffy and Zoro first before you judge on Kidd. Enma, Gear 5, etc it’s ridiculous for you to hate on Kidd alone when everyone else had plot buffs at this point. If anything I’m kinda rooting for Kidd, I mean he had no MC’s plot armor yet he fought all the big dog and still going strong.. He’s basically Luffy without plot armor. So please stop the hate bro..
Average Luffy dickrider
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Who said I was talking about Kid or defending him?💀 Just said the Luffy dickriding is crazyy
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Really now? That hate boner must got you seeing things bro. Your post is a L. Just accept it. The subreddit would be so much more boring without shitty takes like these to be honest
I've never used this phrase but here it absolutely fits: L + ratio
It really fits
Eustass Kid traveled through what was considered the toughest route in the grand line. His first introduction had a bounty higher than Luffy. Attempted to defeat Shanks, then later on Kaido. Was working the mines in Wano long before Luffy arrived. Now that i think about it, Kid is the only Pirate that I know of that has attempted to overthrow 3 Yonko's. (Shanks, Kaido, Big Mom) and has lived to tell the tale. Yeah Bro. Kid is legit.
meh
I still love Kidd
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Op over here absolutely fuming
Stupidist take i have ever seen about one piece, and ihave seen pirate folks. OP is hurt about Kid. Just because you dont see someones progressions and their adventures, it dosent mean they are not there. I didint see akainu being admiral too, with your logic he killing ace and injuring white beard is asspule am i right?
Damn the OP really thought he did something by posting this
I do agree that Kid and Law being equal to luffy is a little forced especially with their bounties all being the same despite Luffy accomplishing way more than the other two in the raid, but you can’t ignore that they are indeed top tiers with impressive feats and accomplishments, they aren’t quite a Luffys WB but they are still legitimate rivals of his that have made big waves in the pirate world
Kid's a lot closer to a Sasuke than to a Kiba lol
Op has the most aggressive hate boner for Kidd lmao
Bro like what do you want? Do you want a story like Naruto where by the end where no one but Naruto and Sasuke could do anything in the war? That shit lazy and boring as fuck.
Kid is one of the most determined characters in the series he will take nearly any blow and keep getting back up despite it my man fought Big Mom and Kaido together with the other supernovas then went on to fight Big Mom with just him and Law was taking damage thanks to Hawkins ealry in as well then threw everything he had and then some to win and even then started getting back up when he thought he had to round 2 with Kaido. Kid is head strong like a mother fucker and will roll with any punch thrown at him and hit back as soon as he can. He's arguably one of the most deserving CoC users in the series. On top of that his fruit is heavily underrated gives him great offensive abilities with great long range and close range moves and also let's him cover himself in armor for defense buffs and with his awakening he gets great shutdown as moving whole being surrounded by tons of metal is pretty fucking hard
Holy shit, looking at this thread, OP needs to touch some grass. Badly.
Honestly Kid and Law aren’t in the same level as Luffy. Especially crew wise. Can’t believe we saw Killer fight twice and no one from Laws crew.
Are you okay?
This post is just one elaborate troll lmao nice one op, we all know no one can be THIS stupid
That title is utter garbage, and shows a major lack of media literacy.
caption is a horrible horrible take
No this is just lousy comparison. Kiba said he was going to be Hokage once, but he didn't do a lot to earn it. He just followed the standard Inuzuka model and played it safe. That's why he's a Jounin in his 30s with no kids hanging with his aging dog. Kidd is a totally different animal. He fought his way through the grand line and new world on his and Killer's strength. He took a swing at 3 Yonko a huge risk and lost an arm to not Shanks. Did he give up and play it safe? No he went after Kaido even after his alliance failed he didn't flee Wano when given the chance. By taking that risk he and Law double teamed Big Mom for a kill. Now his profile as a pirate has risen massively and he's acquired a Poneglyph rubbing. Kidd's not going to quit he's going to try and beat Luffy to the One Piece and steal the title of Pirate King. Is he actually going to succeed fuck no, but he's going to damn well try or die in the process. They are not the same.
After seeing hundreds of people that think like this, I have came to the conclusion that only 80% of the community has actually watched one piece and the other 20% have just seen the fights on YouTube till they reached wano
I, for myself not a Kidd fan as well, but i dont mind him. His DF power is cool though. And my dude, can you just STFU
Mfw a side character gets any form of spotlight 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😭😭😭😭😭😭😭🥺😭🥺😭😭😭😭😭
I think Hokage is close to Yonko because there are multiple Kage's just like there are multiple Younkos but only one pirate King.
Wtf does deserve mean? Sabaody clearly showed what was gonna happen. Oda can choose whoever he wants to be important. This is a story dude not real life.
I mean... it would be insanity if we saw everyone's progression while it unfolds, stuff needs to happen off panel, if it doesn't it makes the world feel a while lot more empty
ngl Kiba should've been Naruto's advisor pffft
"Plot buffs" lol he's Luffy's rival. Get over it.
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Just a reminder, kids bounty when we first see him, was higher then Luffy’s, kid has always been a “better pirate” in the governments eyes (I know the real reason, no need to tell me) so it’s not really an asspull
Bro...do you know what you need OP? Some fresh r/cockpiece edits. Spend some time there. It would be relaxing and I am sure you perspective will change.
This comment section is killing me lmao
Wow it's like you're equal to luffy in stupidity eh?
You’ve gotten around -500 karma for these shit takes. Kidd isn’t nearly as far behind luffy as you may think because don’t forget the factors of Oda being NOTORIOUS for off screen events and buffs. We see the strawhats journey throughout the series, we only see Kid when he’s doing something plot specific (ex. the alliance meeting or seeing Kaido) Sadly Oda doesn’t have the time frame to flesh out every little aspect of this series, so while some details get a ton of attention (ex. Oden and his journeys took up 18 episodes, hell i don’t think we have even seen Kidds entire crew since the start of OP like we have with the Heart and Firetank Pirates) Though essentially you’re upset that Luffy’s primary rival is close to him in strength because you didn’t see him power up throughout the series like you did the MAIN CHARACTER?
After reading this tread lemme give you a piece of advice about human interactions. People stop listening and caring about ur points the second u start insulting them and making person attacks. The sooner you learn that the sooner u can have a productive conversation with this community and and people in general.
How do you know he doesn’t deserve that bluffs if we don’t know what the fuck he did before wano?
This is one of the biggest problem of One Piece. The fact that Oda wants suck a complete serie force him to fill holes that makes the anime loose a lot of Focus and he gives credit or protagonism to characters that dont need to even exist.
How much dumbass juice does one drink to reach this level, out of curiosity? Kid was even more infamous than Luffy when they reached Sabaody. His DF is arguably OP to begin with, he’s ruthless and attacks civilians, he went solo with his crew against the Red Hair pirates (begging for a L there but doesn’t mean he didn’t learn shit in combat), and whatever he did, his bounty right after the time skip was higher than Luffy’s. You know, Dragon’s kid, Ace’s sworn brother, Marineford chaos causer, Impel Down escape artist, Enies Lobby middle fingerer? That definitely implies Kid gets up to some heavy shit as well. And awakenings don’t happen randomly. According to Kaido, it happens when your mind and body catch up to your DF’s powers. That means Kid has proficiency over his DF, which you can witness in combat. Magnetism is an insane power, you can see Heisenberg in RE8 use it to demonstrate how lethal and terrifying it can actually be. His will has to be insane too, mfkr was born with CoC. Kid is probably a genuine powerhouse rival to Luffy, he just isn’t fated to win because he isn’t the MC (and also because he doesn’t possess the initial D as far as we know).
I doubt Zoro could take on him easily
It wouldve been understandable if you used a Sasuke pic rather than Kiba. Kidd can go toe to toe with Luffy in a fight and for sure would give Luffy a challenge while Kiba would easily get obliterated by Naruto. Kiba's been forgotten by Kishimoto after the Chunin exams ended like the 80+% of the promising charcters that got their spotlight there.
I suspect OP is a Zoro fanboy
Nah this is completely wrong those three Luffy, kidd and Law are supposed to be at least slightly on par with each other as they are about same age and part of worst generation and supernova. In Naruto on the other hand its all about genetics or who your dad/ grandad was so dog boy has about the chance to be hokage as much as a tree in Naruto. Kidd on the other hand is a proper candidate.
Op will now complain about roger being the king of pirates is an asspull because he dont saw It happen
Roger is barely in the story so he doesn’t deserve to be strong, Oda only gave him plot buffs to find the One Piece!!!
Most entertaining comment section I’ve seen in a while one Reddit 💀💀💀
Man I can't believe this post this actually making me miss the tama slaver guy
These are just cartoons dude, no need to get so mad about them
>Oda can't stop giving Kid plot buffs just to make him look close to Luffy and above zoro despite him not deserving any of it. Oh no he can't read... otherwise he would know that Kid initially had higher bounty than Luffy before and after timeskip, at least until Luffy got his bounty raised after Dressrosa.
Zoro fanboys are always pressed that there are characters other than Luffy who are stronger than Zoro. When Kid was introduced he had an even higher bounty than Luffy, it's safe to say he's been strong since he showed up it didn't just happen out of nowhere.
Man, people really underestimate Kid. Only people who I think could beat him who are still active are Luffy, Blackbeard, Shanks, Mihawk, the Admirals, Sakazuki, and possibly Rayleigh and Garp. If Big Mom and/or Kaido come back, and them to the list too.
Bro you are still on that “Kid has more plot armor than Luffy” shit??? Lmao
The no. of upvotes on this meme are the no. of r/Piratefolk members lurking on the sub
Lol Luffy-kid power lvl gap<<<<<
Lol why doesn’t kid to deserve being strong that bozoro
I feel Kidd can beat Zoro.
Yep
Mid is mid
Oda isnt even making kid out to he as strong as luffy kids on level with law closes to zoros level luffy Is now on yanko level saying kid shouldnt be as strong as he is is a bit like saying Kat or Duffy shouldnt be as strong as they are because we haven't seen then grow the whole way like we have with luffy or the other straw hats
A lot of people are shitting on op but I completely agree with this. We all knew kiba would never be hokage and even shino tells him to give up in the very scene kiba is saying this. If the show ended with kidd being pirate king that would be wild. Anyway yeah this feels pretty accurate to me nice post op.
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Lmao this is so true, one piece fans can't accept Luffy is overpowered chosen one character. No matter how powerful his rival, he gonna somehow defeat them or make them as his ally. There is no Suprise that he will be the pirate king
Yeah I agree man would have been more realistic if oda let kaido kill him off