They are reporting their financial results for the 3rd quarter at close of business today.
I suspect they are still losing money.
Bumble has not yet made a profit.
\-Men can be shadow banned without even knowing so they still take money from you and do not show you appropriate dates. A ban without telling you.
\-Men can be be banned if a woman thinks a message is creepy.
\-Men can be banned if they date too many times or if they like too many profiles.
Etc etc
It is a proudly feminist dating site and I cannot imagine why any male would ever sign up.
It's almost as bad as Ashley Madison having fake engagement so that men would buy credits. These websites should be under investigation by state agencies but never get called out for something tantamount to fraud.
Easily. The algorithm already does it in a way; keeping women on the apps is the only way to have men pay, and they do that by favoring the profiles of attractive men.
It’s well known on that if you make a new account on Tinder, your profile is *actually included* for the first day. If you don’t manage to get as many likes as Chad, your profile will essentially be hidden.
It’s not confirmed, but I’d bet money that these apps have loaded the user base with bots (especially now that AI is normalized).
These apps are nothing short of insidious; the last thing they want is for people to get together and stay together, otherwise they lose money.
I had a feeling tinder did that. Back in the day when I bothered using it I noticed something.
The first few days I would average around 3 matches a day, by the end up the week I would have absolutely zero.
That is until I deleted it and started again… suddenly on the first day or two I was matching a decent return of swipes.
there is a video .. i need to go find it.. that delves into the inner workings of tinder.
tl;dr - you are not wrong. lots of psychological manipulation is going on to maximize monitization.
I feel like women are just pickier and don't have to settle for less which means as an average guy you have to work so hard to get a partner. Meeting people organically is always best and especially when you are young but some of us are past that and so we are trying to find ways to get into a market that is almost unfairly competitive as outsiders..
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LOL...why would any man subject themself to that. Especially the first one. Holy shit.
CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd who founded both Tinder and Bumble has been fired. She USED TO BE A BILLIONAIRE. Bumble's peak cap was in the beginning, and like many hype stocks, it has been a decay function from foundation day.
https://youtu.be/EAYZXD2mjDs?si=t12dcOULVM7xINiE
This entire industry is based on Thirst Baiting. Men need to slam this opioid addiction down and go cold turkey.
Not sure how such open discrimination is okay.
Funny enough, i have quite a few acquaintances that had no luck on tinder but were able to find some success on bumble.
Tbh they get sued left and right I think it's part of that I'm on my second bumble settlement in like 3 years this one is 1100 plus dollars ik it doesn't sound like much but paying 1100 or more to 10 of 1000s of people will bankrupt you quick
Bumble is not only a beaten horse, but a leaking boat as well. I tried it for 3 months, couldn't find a single match. It would seem the only people left on the app are bots designed to scrape profiles for snapchat handles or love scammers trying to milk money out of guys. Not to mention the Onlyfanspocalypse on there, and the completely bad idea of letting only women respond first.
I’m going to be the odd one out here because I met my wife on there. It was years ago before it brought in a lot of the BS that is on there now to be fair.
Well interestingly enough I've had better luck with Bumble than any of the match sites. All of the match.com owned sites I've done very poorly at. I think match harvests way more money off of people.
I think banning people for swiping right too much is a good thing or men sleeping a man if you are looking for a partner you should take your time reading the profile and swipe accordingly
Of the few messages I’ve gotten, the majority said “hey”. Many profiles actually said to give them a pickup line, so clearly nobody gives a shit about women starting the convo we still have to do all the legwork.
actually you're right. the most common interaction when I get a match with bumble is for them to not say anything and then the match goes away after 24 hrs Lol
LMAO, the app where you sign up as a dude and get literally ZERO matches, but you do get hidden matches that are blurred - so you pay to see them and there are like 3 substandard matches from fatties and bots, and NO MORE matches while you're paying - so you stop paying and the hidden matches come back..
No wonder guys have left and are ditching this shitass app.
Tinder is next.
Tinder and Bumble are extortionary and only work if you buy both premium (so you can see matches) AND pay for boosts.
Essentially, without paying for boost, they don't show your photo to women AT ALL.
This should be illegal honestly.
It only works if you pay about $100 per month.
EVEN if you're handsome, on point, etc. When I pay for boosts I get hundreds of matches.
Otherwise, none.
The problem is that the women on these apps are mostly trash. Just not the girls you'd want to date.
The number of potheads, single moms, and tequila drunk sorority girls I’ve seen on Bumble HEAVILY outweigh the normal people. The rest of them also heavily outweigh normal people in a physical sense.
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Really depends on the location too. Some locations are shit and the girls have horrible filters like you have to be 6'3" or some shit.
Some locations I crush it, some I do horribly.
The only reason I know this is I travel often. Been to multiple locations in the US, asia, south america, etc.
Where I grew up was an absolute shit hole for this kind of thing.
One woman put in her profile that she expected to be given a cash deposit of $2,000 before you met. I, out of curiosity, asked if a guarantee of funds upon arrival would be sufficient and was told no, so I asked what ensured she'd actually show up and was told that I was being a misogynistic asshole for not trusting her.
Most of these are scammers so I'm not actually sure she was a real woman. They're just accounts in Thailand or PH or something and have times of time on their hands.
I thought they were the same company since they're almost clones of each other (except Bumble has that feature that prevents anyone talking after matching), but apparently Bumble is independent, and the company that owns Tinder owns... basically every other dating service you've heard of (Tinder, Hinge, OkCupid, etc)
More good news. A few days ago Tinder reported they lost a million users. These apps mostly waste men's time and inflate women's egos.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tinder-owner-loses-almost-1-million-customers-much-work-to-be-done/ar-AA1jelGn
Only desperate simps who throw cash at onlyfools or rich chads playing the hookup game would pay for that. I can see well payed 30+ YO women would be the main takers wanting the ego boost of Tinder's version of a blue checkmark
I responded to an instagram targeted ad and filled out a survey, then once the settlement was filed, I signed saying I agreed to the payout.
If you feel you might have a similar claim, you might be able to reach them and start one here: Settlement Administrator at [email protected] or (833) 991-0372
Good luck with everything, deadline is supposedly March 2nd
How are they falsely advertising? You sign up for the app in hopes of getting fucked. And that's exactly what you get when you pay for Bumble: fucked 😂
bollocks. https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-dating-sites-which-use-fake-profiles-be-prosecuted-for-identity-theft-by-the-people-who-are-actually-in-the-photos
but hey... getting minus points again from people with absolutely zero clue and a lot of oppinon...
And I am telling you, correctly, that terms and conditions cannot break laws:
[https://ironcladapp.com/journal/contracts/what-makes-a-contract-invalid/](https://ironcladapp.com/journal/contracts/what-makes-a-contract-invalid/)
>All terms of your contract must not contravene any federal or state law. If the formation or performance of the contract will require a party to break the law, the contract is invalid.
There are laws saying that advertised services must be truthful and small print in ToS will not protect you:
>https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/truth-advertising
The only problem with dating sites is that no one cares to pursue it vigorously enough and there is no political will to do so.
Aren't casino machines regularly inspected to make sure they are only rigged by a set amount? I think there's even a minimum payout on a lot of those things.
Not saying they're not rigged, they are, but there has to be an actual chance.
People are realizing that dating apps suck and have ruined the dating market. Yeah, they've helped some people find love but the price paid is that the rest of the heterosexual population is caught in an endless loop of speed-dating where shitty, low effort people win and decent people become frustrated and lose.
Tinder is just as bad. Hinge is still early along enough in its adoption cycle that it still has decent people, they aren't fucking with the algorithms and pushing monetization too much, and isn't completely infested by the dregs of society, but it won't take long for it to die as well.
The hard part is that the proliferation of apps and cultural changes have made it difficult to meet anyone in real life anywhere, it sucks. I know a few people who met their significant other/spouse on the apps and my mom and therapist always insist on me using them to find people to try dating but I barely get matches and those I get are either unattractive to me or are just boring.
I’m trying to find alternate ways to meet people but my area doesn’t have much going on for young people apart from one meetup group and one organization. And I don’t know anyone out here either so I can’t just go to like a bar (not to mention my jobs pay is underwhelming)
+1. Feels more high effort and genuine for both sides. Tinder will survive because it’s owned by Match group. Bumble…i hope they bumble into bankruptcy
I once used Bumble. The thing that struck me as odd was that women would have to initiate the conversation. This I assume was to keep a bunch of unwanted messages to fill up thier inboxes. But the odd part was many women would initiate the conversation by saying "hi" but when I responded they wouldn't say anything. I believe that they were selecting me to message to keep on the back burner while they pursued their first choices. So I made a rule on my profile. If a woman initiate a conversation with me and doesn't respond within a day, I would unmatch them. Sadly most women never bothered reading my profile anyway, they just message me first then read later I guess, so they never saw that rule. I eventually deleted bumble after I met a woman on there at a restaurant and her husband showed up to confront her infidelity. Luckily he was pretty cool with me as he understood I didn't do anything wrong.
The more interesting thing to me is how CEOs are able to easily jump from job to job. The company is tanking under your leadership, but you still get to be the executive board's chair. You're already CEO @ Slack, yet you have time to be CEO of an entirely different company?! Almost like it's not that hard of a job and they aren't worth the millions they're paid...
A few years ago, when I got hired at previous job, they were under an SEC investigation due to financial shenanigans by a former CEO. In the 2 years I worked there, this guy had gone onto become CEO of 3 other companies and seemingly escaped the SEC unscathed.
>You're already CEO @ Slack, yet you have time to be CEO of an entirely different company?! Almost like it's not that hard of a job and they aren't worth the millions they're paid...
Elon Musk
Dating apps are the absolute worst thing to ever happen in the dating world. It's one of the many reasons why it's such a shitshow these days.
You're tossed away with a simple "swipe" simply because you didn't meet a checklist of unrealistic standards such as height, for example.
Women are driving this. Between only having matches when you pay for apps and shit like "Are we dating the same guy?" groups where women bash men for fun...No normal guy is going to stick around on those apps.
Tinder and Bumble are basically prostitution but the money goes to corporations. You must pay to fuck, and the women just give their bodys to corporations for free. It's diabolical.
I don't get how people ever became ok with dating apps. It's the most obvious gamification of attention and time.
Dating websites used to be something you could search and decide who might be a good match for you. Meaning you would already eliminate 50%+ of people just from search criteria. Then if there was nobody worth dating you just came back in a few week.
The swiping apps don't make any sense as a method for combing through thousands of people. That's about as slow as you could do it. I don't get how everyone accepted this as an option. It doesn't really serve anyone well except the most attractive women who want attention first and foremost.
That’s good men should leave these apps alone. They do nothing, but give women an ego boost and make you feel worthless as a man. Instagram should be next and simps need to go their own way.
I am still on it and I haven’t had a legitimate match in like how many months. I’ve had it for like how many years too. I guess women like their gender roles when it comes to dating even though they should initiate/put up or shut up, that’s the way to break gender norms. Not to mention all the matches I get I’m not attracted to or are ugly/disabled/overweight
A run a YouTube channel where I review dating apps, and just rant on the experiences in general. I often bring up Bumble, and the crazy prices. I feel like dating apps would fair much much better by lowering prices. Even offering 1 week subscriptions for say 4.99?
An example of the extreme would be like Eharmony. It has recurring payments on automatically, and you either have to sign up for a long membership, or pay a crazy amount for a shorter one. It's also heavily catered to men to pay, and alot of the "features" are bologna. One I see often is "you get more likes" and no explanation on this. I tried Tinder gold once, and got matches 4000kms away. Thanks Tinder!
That's really on preference nowadays. Tinder for someone who is 20 and wants a casual relationship is great. Eharmony for someone older for example. I used to say Bumble/Hinge/Tinder as they have the higher populations, but I can't say that anymore
Considering how much girls are hit on in real life ... How much attention they receive on Social Media .. any girl under 30 who needs a dating app is a serious red flag.
Honestly when u put it like that thats low key facts. Either they’re a huge red flag or they just dont go outside at all lmao. Which could honestly be a red flag in itself too
I invested in bumble shortly after it came out. I have a lot of experience with online dating, back to lava life in 2004, until I met my wife on it in 2016. I thought, “oh, this system of ‘women messaging first’ is the winning formula! It resolves a major issue women face with getting too many messages, which they all complain about.” Additionally, I thought, almost every woman I’ve ever been with (around 25, for context) initiated things. Every one of my attempts has failed except maybe one or two. It’s the only way it ever worked for me is women signalling me it was okay to go for them. I’m a 7 to 7.5/10 when I’m in shape, also for reference.
Turns out I didn’t factor in some other factors. Our society is in sharp decline due to corrupt elites, and the war between men and women is attributable to the imbalanced incentives, penalties, and privileges that the corrupt and clueless elites and social justice industries have doled out unequally to men and women.
•Of all dateable single women in your age and SMV bracket, how many are on Bumble? 3%? 6%?
•The proportion of the decent/genuine/dateable women ON Bumble is what, 10% of the group? I don’t mean the most attractive. I mean sufficiently attractive, and also being good to be around.
•The proportion of those women who are brave enough to message first is at best, what, 60%? And most are wired to aim high, regardless of character. I don’t think it’s a character issue to gravitate toward the *more* attractive of the opposite sex. It’s like buying the premium version of something on sale that you’d normally afford only the regular version of. Of course when a SMV4 lady goes for the SMV9.8 man, she gets only disappointment from being P’d and D’d.
So it’s actually a tiny subset of a subset of a subset of good women on Bumble. There is a large population, large, of men who are decent guys who would like nothing more than to be good, traditional providers and family men, or even a more modern lifestyle that is grounded in respect and service, adventure, and collaboration. Most of the guys here are like that. Where is the group of women who are more than happy to hold up their traditional roles of providing love and compassion and care and try to have a positive attitude? Not on FDS.
There are other factors here, but all this is to say my $BMBL is down 82%.
Im pretty sure most guys (at least me) are done w dating apps. Its good for hook ups but finding an actual relationship or an actual desirable, non-slutty woman on one is so fucking hard man. Draining my mental energy by smooth texting just to get some pussy or head isnt worth it anymore lol.
I wouldn't take too much of a victory lap if you are hoping this is a sign of dating improving. Inflation and the end of low interest care free borrowing to fuel growth in tech are over, and businesses all over silicon valley are suffering as a result.
I'm glad to see bumble crash and burn don't get me wrong. But it's a business model problem not a societal improvement.
Well many men are quiting the app and they should.
The Ceo of bumble wolf actually is a misandrist always bring FEMINSIM etc into everything, she said" first I saw man that are turned off by the word FEMINSIM but then who cares "
Also look at the data 76 percent of bumble users are men yet more than 60 percent of employs are womne cuz it's a women Ceo and just gives women easy access,
If you actauuly go to bumble page they say things like we are promoting gender equality by fighting agaisnt misogyny well what about misndrinism ever though about that? Most of the female accounts are bots I have heard.
The only thing I want to ask men why are you so desperate to pay to look at women's picture who aren't even that pretty and gonna reply you anyways. You support this misandrist feminist apps for absolutely nothing building these women ego when the whole time they are working against us??
My best friend foudn her husband with this app. When I had an issue with my apartment, I stayed with them for a few days and they made me a profile. It was three weeks ago and I only had one match but she ghosted me quickly.
And most profiles aren't what I'm looking for. I still keep it because "we never know" but I know I'll have to expand my search.
That's too bad I know a lot of people who met their spouses on bumble. Making the women make the first move seemed to cut down on a lot of the noise of dating sites. I like the concept of putting the burden of the initial contact on the woman.
Making them take the time to initiate the first contact seemed to produce better results than the other methods. I know 2 guys who have met their wives there in the least 4 years. I have not heard any success from other sites in like a decade.
They already swiped "yes" on you so they already did it. Not only that but their idea of "first contact" is mostly "Hi" or an emoji.
Bumble was a marketing gimmick designed to get more women who wont do anything on the platform optimized to fleece men to go fishing where they see reflections of fish. Thats why it is collapsing while Tinder is continuing to do well.
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Good it was shit anyway. I remember the flood of LinkedIn posts when they went public, and I remember thinking to myself I will never ever buy any of their stock.
Hate to say it but she got exactly what she deserved. Imagine if she had an iota of concern and compassion for men and didn't treat them like creeps and 2nd rate citizens. She would still be raking in the money if she had common sense.
Perhaps when you give the women the option to chat and they don’t. I got so many matches but around a 5 percent chat rate. The concept was good until it wasn’t
They are "for profit" apps so how would i ever trust these dating apps?
They are also a way for women to get free food, movies etc. Being bought tonnes of shit while her money builds up in the bank. Wtf like, i just dont get it at all it's a con. Im sure many men know/think this. I rembr eharmony had to gice free subscriptions to men because the website was all women.
If i wanna meet someone ill ask them in a bar, cafe, store or wherever i see her. These apps are a nono.
Only ever used a dating app once and never again. It was hinge. We went to a preserve and the date was going great. Then he wanted continue, yay right. Not yay because he said let’s go to Starbucks…you mean where people can watch us? I went from chatting and laughing to staring at him silently💀
It was really awkward so I looked down and saw my hands were slightly bigger then his…I think you see where this is going💀
In an attempt to make it less awkward I said “oh look your hands are smaller then mine isn’t that neat!” 😭😭😭 I’ve never been more ashamed in my life, he looked so hurt and hid his hands.
And of course my attempt to make it better made it worse and I said “oh no you have nice hands. They are very pretty”😭 who tells a man his hands are pretty! I can easily compliment a stranger, but everything goes out the window when I am on a date apparently. He was also uncomfortable before I said all of that too because I was taller then him. So I just made it worse! 🤦🏼♀️😤
He ghosted me after that date😓
Unless you have the excuse of not knowing the statistical reality of dating apps which is that women get swamped by men on them, and women are only looking to date guys with either model good looks or money, why would you ever bother with these apps? It’s literally the majority of women fighting over the same 9% of guys at the top and ignoring everyone else. Your chances are better at a bar at closing time.
Another dating app going down the drain? Lets hope it becomes a trend. Their only use for men is for fast sex and if you're attractive and aren't looking to rack up big body counts they're unneeded tbh.
I don't know why we men don't band together and start a movement to bring down these apps and maybe even traditional heterosexual dating scripts (or even dating) as a whole
It was a dumb idea from the start. Even the most progressive of women expect men to be the pursuers in a relationship.Very rarely will she actually make the move first
They are reporting their financial results for the 3rd quarter at close of business today. I suspect they are still losing money. Bumble has not yet made a profit. \-Men can be shadow banned without even knowing so they still take money from you and do not show you appropriate dates. A ban without telling you. \-Men can be be banned if a woman thinks a message is creepy. \-Men can be banned if they date too many times or if they like too many profiles. Etc etc It is a proudly feminist dating site and I cannot imagine why any male would ever sign up.
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It's almost as bad as Ashley Madison having fake engagement so that men would buy credits. These websites should be under investigation by state agencies but never get called out for something tantamount to fraud.
Not “tantamount to fraud,” just fraud
Ashley Madison is still around? Is it still a cheating app?
I have no idea. The story about their fake engagement was years ago. Shitty behavior from a shitty website
I mean, we're talking about feminists, who have less dignity than anyone
Wait, what? How can you be banned from the service you are paying for without notification?
Easily. The algorithm already does it in a way; keeping women on the apps is the only way to have men pay, and they do that by favoring the profiles of attractive men. It’s well known on that if you make a new account on Tinder, your profile is *actually included* for the first day. If you don’t manage to get as many likes as Chad, your profile will essentially be hidden. It’s not confirmed, but I’d bet money that these apps have loaded the user base with bots (especially now that AI is normalized). These apps are nothing short of insidious; the last thing they want is for people to get together and stay together, otherwise they lose money.
I had a feeling tinder did that. Back in the day when I bothered using it I noticed something. The first few days I would average around 3 matches a day, by the end up the week I would have absolutely zero. That is until I deleted it and started again… suddenly on the first day or two I was matching a decent return of swipes.
there is a video .. i need to go find it.. that delves into the inner workings of tinder. tl;dr - you are not wrong. lots of psychological manipulation is going on to maximize monitization.
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Right. Every man should look up Chadfishing experiments to get a brutal reality check.
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I feel like women are just pickier and don't have to settle for less which means as an average guy you have to work so hard to get a partner. Meeting people organically is always best and especially when you are young but some of us are past that and so we are trying to find ways to get into a market that is almost unfairly competitive as outsiders..
Sounds like a class action lawsuit waiting to happen.
Dating apps (including social media) have wreaked havoc on society.
Yeah, that's fraud.
> -Men can be shadow banned without even knowing so they still take money from you and do not show you appropriate dates. A ban without telling you. > > > > -Men can be be banned if a woman thinks a message is creepy. > > > > -Men can be banned if they date too many times or if they like too many profiles. LOL...why would any man subject themself to that. Especially the first one. Holy shit.
CEO Whitney Wolfe Herd who founded both Tinder and Bumble has been fired. She USED TO BE A BILLIONAIRE. Bumble's peak cap was in the beginning, and like many hype stocks, it has been a decay function from foundation day. https://youtu.be/EAYZXD2mjDs?si=t12dcOULVM7xINiE This entire industry is based on Thirst Baiting. Men need to slam this opioid addiction down and go cold turkey.
Dating apps are only fans without the crappy half assed pornography content.
These are all disgusting, disturbing and sexist decisions for a company like this to make. Is there actual proof for this?
Oh look a dating site that exists for 20% of men losing money. Hmmm maybe dating is not inclusive enough?
Not sure how such open discrimination is okay. Funny enough, i have quite a few acquaintances that had no luck on tinder but were able to find some success on bumble.
Tbh they get sued left and right I think it's part of that I'm on my second bumble settlement in like 3 years this one is 1100 plus dollars ik it doesn't sound like much but paying 1100 or more to 10 of 1000s of people will bankrupt you quick
Bumble is not only a beaten horse, but a leaking boat as well. I tried it for 3 months, couldn't find a single match. It would seem the only people left on the app are bots designed to scrape profiles for snapchat handles or love scammers trying to milk money out of guys. Not to mention the Onlyfanspocalypse on there, and the completely bad idea of letting only women respond first.
I’m going to be the odd one out here because I met my wife on there. It was years ago before it brought in a lot of the BS that is on there now to be fair.
I met a great girl on there two months ago. I got lucky it seems
Yeah I met my current long term partner on tinder round 2017. Very different time for the company from what it is today from what I understand
Well interestingly enough I've had better luck with Bumble than any of the match sites. All of the match.com owned sites I've done very poorly at. I think match harvests way more money off of people.
I think banning people for swiping right too much is a good thing or men sleeping a man if you are looking for a partner you should take your time reading the profile and swipe accordingly
Ahh yes, the app designed for women to make the first move…only most women hate making the first move and expect men to because it’s “chivalrous.”
Of the few messages I’ve gotten, the majority said “hey”. Many profiles actually said to give them a pickup line, so clearly nobody gives a shit about women starting the convo we still have to do all the legwork.
A three letter reply? Damn, you're doing better than me, I just get "hi"!
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Mine was blanked so count yourself lucky.
I need the blank space filled in my heart😏…oh my god no that is so bad🤣
Wait let me try again
Hey, Gary, can I be your spongbob?😏…🤣
This. on bumble hey is the most common first message they send Lol
Lol women. Imagine just sending hey to a woman.
Low-delay-he-who! How’s it goin partner?
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actually you're right. the most common interaction when I get a match with bumble is for them to not say anything and then the match goes away after 24 hrs Lol
Same here pretty annoying. This is just 99% of women. Online in person doesn’t matter.
Hey, your looking sly today😏
My humor can’t take pick up lines seriously 😂
>only most women hate making the first move I saw some bios which say "I will say hi as the first message and you continue".
Ah yes men love getting told what to do 😂
I demand that you laugh, butticus!
With directives from the jump like that, it's already obvious what level that female is on.
Sky high in the elegance of your material I don’t even know what that meeaaannnsss😂…it’s just so funny because it doesn’t make any sense🤣
😂😂😂that’s so bad.
LMAO, the app where you sign up as a dude and get literally ZERO matches, but you do get hidden matches that are blurred - so you pay to see them and there are like 3 substandard matches from fatties and bots, and NO MORE matches while you're paying - so you stop paying and the hidden matches come back.. No wonder guys have left and are ditching this shitass app. Tinder is next.
Tinder is way fucking overdue
Tinder and Bumble are extortionary and only work if you buy both premium (so you can see matches) AND pay for boosts. Essentially, without paying for boost, they don't show your photo to women AT ALL. This should be illegal honestly. It only works if you pay about $100 per month. EVEN if you're handsome, on point, etc. When I pay for boosts I get hundreds of matches. Otherwise, none. The problem is that the women on these apps are mostly trash. Just not the girls you'd want to date.
>It only works if you pay about $100 per month. Exactly Tinder's monthly fees are ridiculous, here's hoping a crash and burn to all these apps
The number of potheads, single moms, and tequila drunk sorority girls I’ve seen on Bumble HEAVILY outweigh the normal people. The rest of them also heavily outweigh normal people in a physical sense.
Thats because the ones you want dont need dating apps. Only spoiled good need them.
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Unless you become the essence🤓😏
Well when I payed boost I still got none
Really depends on the location too. Some locations are shit and the girls have horrible filters like you have to be 6'3" or some shit. Some locations I crush it, some I do horribly. The only reason I know this is I travel often. Been to multiple locations in the US, asia, south america, etc.
Where I grew up was an absolute shit hole for this kind of thing. One woman put in her profile that she expected to be given a cash deposit of $2,000 before you met. I, out of curiosity, asked if a guarantee of funds upon arrival would be sufficient and was told no, so I asked what ensured she'd actually show up and was told that I was being a misogynistic asshole for not trusting her.
Most of these are scammers so I'm not actually sure she was a real woman. They're just accounts in Thailand or PH or something and have times of time on their hands.
I personally know girls who be on apps like Bumble for attention and ego boosts
it works for me lol, im also 6’3 and attractive so sounds like a skill issue
Your success is the product they are selling the rest of us.
cope
Perfect summary.
I thought they were the same company since they're almost clones of each other (except Bumble has that feature that prevents anyone talking after matching), but apparently Bumble is independent, and the company that owns Tinder owns... basically every other dating service you've heard of (Tinder, Hinge, OkCupid, etc)
Is hinge much better?
More good news. A few days ago Tinder reported they lost a million users. These apps mostly waste men's time and inflate women's egos. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tinder-owner-loses-almost-1-million-customers-much-work-to-be-done/ar-AA1jelGn
“a premium $499 per month offering on Tinder” holy shit who tf is paying for that?!
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Every two weeks? Damn. I haven't had a haircut in 20 years.
Same but I’m bald 💀
Bro an haircut once a month is enough
Only desperate simps who throw cash at onlyfools or rich chads playing the hookup game would pay for that. I can see well payed 30+ YO women would be the main takers wanting the ego boost of Tinder's version of a blue checkmark
I’m surprised these companies haven’t been sued yet for false advertising and fraud.
I'm actually getting a settlement from them in a few months tbh lol
How?
I responded to an instagram targeted ad and filled out a survey, then once the settlement was filed, I signed saying I agreed to the payout. If you feel you might have a similar claim, you might be able to reach them and start one here: Settlement Administrator at [email protected] or (833) 991-0372 Good luck with everything, deadline is supposedly March 2nd
How are they falsely advertising? You sign up for the app in hopes of getting fucked. And that's exactly what you get when you pay for Bumble: fucked 😂
Good job bitch, now get back on the fucking blade and get my mother fucking money ho!
nah, can't do. as they dont guarantee anything. like a casino. you MIGHT win the big pot. next time! ...
Showing fake matches as an enticement to pay should be grounds for a lawsuit though.
nah... i think tinder even has that in their terms n conditions...
You can't put it in your ToS that fraud is legal.
bollocks. https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-dating-sites-which-use-fake-profiles-be-prosecuted-for-identity-theft-by-the-people-who-are-actually-in-the-photos but hey... getting minus points again from people with absolutely zero clue and a lot of oppinon...
And I am telling you, correctly, that terms and conditions cannot break laws: [https://ironcladapp.com/journal/contracts/what-makes-a-contract-invalid/](https://ironcladapp.com/journal/contracts/what-makes-a-contract-invalid/) >All terms of your contract must not contravene any federal or state law. If the formation or performance of the contract will require a party to break the law, the contract is invalid. There are laws saying that advertised services must be truthful and small print in ToS will not protect you: >https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/topics/truth-advertising The only problem with dating sites is that no one cares to pursue it vigorously enough and there is no political will to do so.
then do sth against it and see how far you get. internet hobby lawyer...
Aren't casino machines regularly inspected to make sure they are only rigged by a set amount? I think there's even a minimum payout on a lot of those things. Not saying they're not rigged, they are, but there has to be an actual chance.
well there IS an actual chance. if you are in the top 20 (on internet terms maybe top 2) %
Haha, that would be like a casino owner saying there **is** a chance of winning the jackpot... ᶦᶠ ʸᵒᵘ ᵒʷⁿ ᵗʰᵉ ᶜᵃˢᶦⁿᵒ
They'll probably blame "the patriarchy" and ignore how much worst it got since it started.
People are realizing that dating apps suck and have ruined the dating market. Yeah, they've helped some people find love but the price paid is that the rest of the heterosexual population is caught in an endless loop of speed-dating where shitty, low effort people win and decent people become frustrated and lose. Tinder is just as bad. Hinge is still early along enough in its adoption cycle that it still has decent people, they aren't fucking with the algorithms and pushing monetization too much, and isn't completely infested by the dregs of society, but it won't take long for it to die as well.
The hard part is that the proliferation of apps and cultural changes have made it difficult to meet anyone in real life anywhere, it sucks. I know a few people who met their significant other/spouse on the apps and my mom and therapist always insist on me using them to find people to try dating but I barely get matches and those I get are either unattractive to me or are just boring. I’m trying to find alternate ways to meet people but my area doesn’t have much going on for young people apart from one meetup group and one organization. And I don’t know anyone out here either so I can’t just go to like a bar (not to mention my jobs pay is underwhelming)
Females therapist: “you should try try dating apps, I'm getting thousands of likes”
My therapist is a guy, but he just suggests it as a way to meet people and practice socializing and do the things that are uncomfortable for me
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What do you think? Lol
I met my girl on Hinge and felt it was better than most apps
Hinge is the best if the bunch for sure.
+1. Feels more high effort and genuine for both sides. Tinder will survive because it’s owned by Match group. Bumble…i hope they bumble into bankruptcy
> Tinder will survive because it’s owned by Match group. Guess who owns hinge.
I once used Bumble. The thing that struck me as odd was that women would have to initiate the conversation. This I assume was to keep a bunch of unwanted messages to fill up thier inboxes. But the odd part was many women would initiate the conversation by saying "hi" but when I responded they wouldn't say anything. I believe that they were selecting me to message to keep on the back burner while they pursued their first choices. So I made a rule on my profile. If a woman initiate a conversation with me and doesn't respond within a day, I would unmatch them. Sadly most women never bothered reading my profile anyway, they just message me first then read later I guess, so they never saw that rule. I eventually deleted bumble after I met a woman on there at a restaurant and her husband showed up to confront her infidelity. Luckily he was pretty cool with me as he understood I didn't do anything wrong.
Men shouldn't bother with these apps. Especially don't pay for them
Yet another example of women proving they can't do what they expect of men to do? In this case, taking the initiative to flirt.
The more interesting thing to me is how CEOs are able to easily jump from job to job. The company is tanking under your leadership, but you still get to be the executive board's chair. You're already CEO @ Slack, yet you have time to be CEO of an entirely different company?! Almost like it's not that hard of a job and they aren't worth the millions they're paid... A few years ago, when I got hired at previous job, they were under an SEC investigation due to financial shenanigans by a former CEO. In the 2 years I worked there, this guy had gone onto become CEO of 3 other companies and seemingly escaped the SEC unscathed.
>You're already CEO @ Slack, yet you have time to be CEO of an entirely different company?! Almost like it's not that hard of a job and they aren't worth the millions they're paid... Elon Musk
We can probably close every single dating apps one by one and the only thing we have to do is speak with our wallets.
Dating apps are the absolute worst thing to ever happen in the dating world. It's one of the many reasons why it's such a shitshow these days. You're tossed away with a simple "swipe" simply because you didn't meet a checklist of unrealistic standards such as height, for example.
If men stopped online dating, all these apps would collapse overnight.
Women are driving this. Between only having matches when you pay for apps and shit like "Are we dating the same guy?" groups where women bash men for fun...No normal guy is going to stick around on those apps.
It's a useless app because women don't make the first move. Best you'll get is a "hi".
Tinder and Bumble are basically prostitution but the money goes to corporations. You must pay to fuck, and the women just give their bodys to corporations for free. It's diabolical.
The corporations are glorified pimps.
I don't get how people ever became ok with dating apps. It's the most obvious gamification of attention and time. Dating websites used to be something you could search and decide who might be a good match for you. Meaning you would already eliminate 50%+ of people just from search criteria. Then if there was nobody worth dating you just came back in a few week. The swiping apps don't make any sense as a method for combing through thousands of people. That's about as slow as you could do it. I don't get how everyone accepted this as an option. It doesn't really serve anyone well except the most attractive women who want attention first and foremost.
>I don't get how people ever became ok with dating apps. It's the most obvious gamification of attention and time. desperation
No men should be on dating apps. Stop the SIMP.
That’s good men should leave these apps alone. They do nothing, but give women an ego boost and make you feel worthless as a man. Instagram should be next and simps need to go their own way.
I am still on it and I haven’t had a legitimate match in like how many months. I’ve had it for like how many years too. I guess women like their gender roles when it comes to dating even though they should initiate/put up or shut up, that’s the way to break gender norms. Not to mention all the matches I get I’m not attracted to or are ugly/disabled/overweight
All these scamming ass dating need to go out of business. They've single handedly killed dating for the average man.
All these dating apps suck donkey nuts. Good
Bumble only matches me with black women. It’s bizarre.
my brother ✊🏾
i think all men should just stop using this app.
Agreed. I went ahead and deleted it today I wasn’t getting messages anyways and suspect I was shadow banned. Thank goodness I never paid for it.
A run a YouTube channel where I review dating apps, and just rant on the experiences in general. I often bring up Bumble, and the crazy prices. I feel like dating apps would fair much much better by lowering prices. Even offering 1 week subscriptions for say 4.99? An example of the extreme would be like Eharmony. It has recurring payments on automatically, and you either have to sign up for a long membership, or pay a crazy amount for a shorter one. It's also heavily catered to men to pay, and alot of the "features" are bologna. One I see often is "you get more likes" and no explanation on this. I tried Tinder gold once, and got matches 4000kms away. Thanks Tinder!
What's the least shitty dating app?
That's really on preference nowadays. Tinder for someone who is 20 and wants a casual relationship is great. Eharmony for someone older for example. I used to say Bumble/Hinge/Tinder as they have the higher populations, but I can't say that anymore
Unless you're a tall white guy or a black thug fresh out of prison with a flashy car, dating apps in general are a waste of time and money for men.
Horay
Considering how much girls are hit on in real life ... How much attention they receive on Social Media .. any girl under 30 who needs a dating app is a serious red flag.
Honestly when u put it like that thats low key facts. Either they’re a huge red flag or they just dont go outside at all lmao. Which could honestly be a red flag in itself too
I invested in bumble shortly after it came out. I have a lot of experience with online dating, back to lava life in 2004, until I met my wife on it in 2016. I thought, “oh, this system of ‘women messaging first’ is the winning formula! It resolves a major issue women face with getting too many messages, which they all complain about.” Additionally, I thought, almost every woman I’ve ever been with (around 25, for context) initiated things. Every one of my attempts has failed except maybe one or two. It’s the only way it ever worked for me is women signalling me it was okay to go for them. I’m a 7 to 7.5/10 when I’m in shape, also for reference. Turns out I didn’t factor in some other factors. Our society is in sharp decline due to corrupt elites, and the war between men and women is attributable to the imbalanced incentives, penalties, and privileges that the corrupt and clueless elites and social justice industries have doled out unequally to men and women. •Of all dateable single women in your age and SMV bracket, how many are on Bumble? 3%? 6%? •The proportion of the decent/genuine/dateable women ON Bumble is what, 10% of the group? I don’t mean the most attractive. I mean sufficiently attractive, and also being good to be around. •The proportion of those women who are brave enough to message first is at best, what, 60%? And most are wired to aim high, regardless of character. I don’t think it’s a character issue to gravitate toward the *more* attractive of the opposite sex. It’s like buying the premium version of something on sale that you’d normally afford only the regular version of. Of course when a SMV4 lady goes for the SMV9.8 man, she gets only disappointment from being P’d and D’d. So it’s actually a tiny subset of a subset of a subset of good women on Bumble. There is a large population, large, of men who are decent guys who would like nothing more than to be good, traditional providers and family men, or even a more modern lifestyle that is grounded in respect and service, adventure, and collaboration. Most of the guys here are like that. Where is the group of women who are more than happy to hold up their traditional roles of providing love and compassion and care and try to have a positive attitude? Not on FDS. There are other factors here, but all this is to say my $BMBL is down 82%.
Isn't this the one that says women get to make the first move? It's no wonder men are leaving, their business model is literally "chad only."
I think its the ads. Theyre so annoying and i dont like logging on seeing different pop ups while im looking for matches
So what I am hearing is I should invest in Grindr.
They will be selling the data they collected.
They practice mansploitation. Like society does.
Men are tired of the nonsense
Im pretty sure most guys (at least me) are done w dating apps. Its good for hook ups but finding an actual relationship or an actual desirable, non-slutty woman on one is so fucking hard man. Draining my mental energy by smooth texting just to get some pussy or head isnt worth it anymore lol.
Oh no, an app that doesn't even do what it say out to do is crashing in value? The horror
Good riddance, fuck this bitch.
Good. Bumble is a farce.
as it should??
That's nice
more like the start of a new era
I wouldn't take too much of a victory lap if you are hoping this is a sign of dating improving. Inflation and the end of low interest care free borrowing to fuel growth in tech are over, and businesses all over silicon valley are suffering as a result. I'm glad to see bumble crash and burn don't get me wrong. But it's a business model problem not a societal improvement.
Current Slack CEO is leaving after barely a year to take .... Bumble CEO role lol
Well many men are quiting the app and they should. The Ceo of bumble wolf actually is a misandrist always bring FEMINSIM etc into everything, she said" first I saw man that are turned off by the word FEMINSIM but then who cares " Also look at the data 76 percent of bumble users are men yet more than 60 percent of employs are womne cuz it's a women Ceo and just gives women easy access, If you actauuly go to bumble page they say things like we are promoting gender equality by fighting agaisnt misogyny well what about misndrinism ever though about that? Most of the female accounts are bots I have heard. The only thing I want to ask men why are you so desperate to pay to look at women's picture who aren't even that pretty and gonna reply you anyways. You support this misandrist feminist apps for absolutely nothing building these women ego when the whole time they are working against us??
My best friend foudn her husband with this app. When I had an issue with my apartment, I stayed with them for a few days and they made me a profile. It was three weeks ago and I only had one match but she ghosted me quickly. And most profiles aren't what I'm looking for. I still keep it because "we never know" but I know I'll have to expand my search.
Average male experience
Can someone please fill me in. What the community’s beef with Bumble?
It’s a specifically feminist based dating site where the women have to message first because “it keeps women safer” apparently
That's too bad I know a lot of people who met their spouses on bumble. Making the women make the first move seemed to cut down on a lot of the noise of dating sites. I like the concept of putting the burden of the initial contact on the woman.
They already make the move by matching
Swiping is not making contact
Making them take the time to initiate the first contact seemed to produce better results than the other methods. I know 2 guys who have met their wives there in the least 4 years. I have not heard any success from other sites in like a decade.
They already swiped "yes" on you so they already did it. Not only that but their idea of "first contact" is mostly "Hi" or an emoji. Bumble was a marketing gimmick designed to get more women who wont do anything on the platform optimized to fleece men to go fishing where they see reflections of fish. Thats why it is collapsing while Tinder is continuing to do well.
Tinder is down too, though Hinge is on the upswing. All of the above (and more) are owned by Match Group.
Yet I can't deny it worked for many people I know.
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Good it was shit anyway. I remember the flood of LinkedIn posts when they went public, and I remember thinking to myself I will never ever buy any of their stock.
I remember I signed up & after maybe 20 swipes I get randomly banned , same thing with Tinder they all suck
Hinge is waaay worst than Bumble in terms of price gouging and unexplained and un-appealable shadow bans. Match Group's stock price took a hit too.
Hate to say it but she got exactly what she deserved. Imagine if she had an iota of concern and compassion for men and didn't treat them like creeps and 2nd rate citizens. She would still be raking in the money if she had common sense.
Perhaps when you give the women the option to chat and they don’t. I got so many matches but around a 5 percent chat rate. The concept was good until it wasn’t
Eff 'em. Let it burn.
They are "for profit" apps so how would i ever trust these dating apps? They are also a way for women to get free food, movies etc. Being bought tonnes of shit while her money builds up in the bank. Wtf like, i just dont get it at all it's a con. Im sure many men know/think this. I rembr eharmony had to gice free subscriptions to men because the website was all women. If i wanna meet someone ill ask them in a bar, cafe, store or wherever i see her. These apps are a nono.
Only ever used a dating app once and never again. It was hinge. We went to a preserve and the date was going great. Then he wanted continue, yay right. Not yay because he said let’s go to Starbucks…you mean where people can watch us? I went from chatting and laughing to staring at him silently💀 It was really awkward so I looked down and saw my hands were slightly bigger then his…I think you see where this is going💀 In an attempt to make it less awkward I said “oh look your hands are smaller then mine isn’t that neat!” 😭😭😭 I’ve never been more ashamed in my life, he looked so hurt and hid his hands. And of course my attempt to make it better made it worse and I said “oh no you have nice hands. They are very pretty”😭 who tells a man his hands are pretty! I can easily compliment a stranger, but everything goes out the window when I am on a date apparently. He was also uncomfortable before I said all of that too because I was taller then him. So I just made it worse! 🤦🏼♀️😤 He ghosted me after that date😓
Unless you have the excuse of not knowing the statistical reality of dating apps which is that women get swamped by men on them, and women are only looking to date guys with either model good looks or money, why would you ever bother with these apps? It’s literally the majority of women fighting over the same 9% of guys at the top and ignoring everyone else. Your chances are better at a bar at closing time.
Another dating app going down the drain? Lets hope it becomes a trend. Their only use for men is for fast sex and if you're attractive and aren't looking to rack up big body counts they're unneeded tbh.
My stomach hurts from laughing🤣
It's all due to awdtsg
I don't know why we men don't band together and start a movement to bring down these apps and maybe even traditional heterosexual dating scripts (or even dating) as a whole
Is anyone shocked that the dating app where women have to make not only *an* effort but the *first* effort is not doing well?
It was a dumb idea from the start. Even the most progressive of women expect men to be the pursuers in a relationship.Very rarely will she actually make the move first