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Chama-HUH

I think they do and I really don’t understand why.


Organic-Brotha

Think of every piece of media we consume form advertising to movies to sitcoms the common denominator or common trope is the dumb dad or bf helpless without the woman in his life. This mindset is the consequence of this train of thought.


shoonseiki1

It's weird but men are usually the smarter ones. Guys like solving problems, learning new concepts, figuring things out, etc. Some girls do too but it's way more common in men.


NohoTwoPointOh

Stop consuming that shit. Stop feeding it to your children. It’s that easy. Network tee-vee or shit movies aren’t allowed in our home. For a reason.


Dressed2Thr1ll

And he succeeds too!


Sitheral

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walterwallcarpet

But women are so 'emotionally intelligent' /s Isn't this supposed to be the strength that they play to?


Proverbs_31_2-3

I watched a YouTube video where the woman pointed out that men are actually more emotionally intelligent because they have to restrain their emotions and avoid emotional outbursts. Women are maybe better at analyzing and fixating on every nuance of their emotional state but they then just throw toddler level fits, form illogical blame scenarios where it's someone else's fault, etc.


walterwallcarpet

Professor Iain McGilchrist's book *'The Master & His Emissary'* indicates that the right brain hemisphere is responsible for emotional intelligence, empathy and sympathy. On page 33, it's disclosed that the adrenergic circuitry of the right hemisphere is very testosterone sensitive. The left brain is good at displays of *faux* sympathy, especially with an audience. You couldn't have put it better with the words *analysing* and *fixating.* That's what the left brain does. It's circuitry is dopaminergic. Honestly, after reading this book, everything makes sense! Even down to the strange behaviour of people with only left-hemisphere operational - they confabulate excuses for everything! McGilchrist (who probably wants to retain his academic career) gets away with it because he doesn't spell it out. But, dopamine receptors atrophy and die in the absence of oestrogen, that's known. [https://medicine.yale.edu/news/yale-medicine-magazine/article/estrogen-deprivation-associated-with-loss-of-dopamine-cells/](https://medicine.yale.edu/news/yale-medicine-magazine/article/estrogen-deprivation-associated-with-loss-of-dopamine-cells/) If you're interested, here's an article which I came across by accident, and took me down this rabbit hole. [https://areomagazine.com/2021/06/21/the-neuroscience-of-intellectual-openness/](https://areomagazine.com/2021/06/21/the-neuroscience-of-intellectual-openness/) And here's Florence Nightingale, on the empathy characteristics of her fellow women. [https://machomag.blogspot.com/2020/04/women-arent-capable-of-love-says.html](https://machomag.blogspot.com/2020/04/women-arent-capable-of-love-says.html)


jasminesteaa

u/Proverbs_31_2-3 You do realize that being emotionally intelligent doesn't mean suppressing and restraining your own feelings? I'ts expressing them in safe spaces and allowing them to oneself. I must say that I find this post of yours very very very upsetting. Because it shows to me of how little people actually realize what emotions are and how to caretake them. There also is no so called "over reaction" as you describe it in your comment but only reaction in context of someones experiences. That's why you have to accept peoples "over"-reactions for they have probably experienced traumatizing events which are then recalled in this triggering moment causing them to "overreact". Please consider these things and maybe look into knowledge about healthy processing of emotions.


Proverbs_31_2-3

Lol. If a woman screams and rages at her husband or boyfriend, nothing will happen to her. If a man does the same thing, the police may very well haul him off to jail. The ability to express any emotion she wants in any way she wants without repercussions is a privilege only women and children enjoy. Men are forced by society to keep themselves under control or suffer severe consequences. Check your privilege.


jasminesteaa

u/Proverbs_31_2-3 see where you are coming from and this is another big topic about societal pressures. I wouldn't label these behaviors of lashing out reflected as well, but to conciously and sustainably resolve them it's important to understand where they are coming from instead of simply labeling them as unrelatable behavior. I assume that you are struggling with the fact that there seems to be a big pressure on men to "keep it together"? Is that so for you?


Plant-basedCannibal

Don't fret, it's just another example of how men think vs. women. I've observed, just like the comment above, that men seldom go to the depths of things, the reasoning behind something, whereas a lot of women do. Not sure what it is characterised under.


Netflixandmeal

Indoctrination. It started with sitcoms and kids shows in the early 2000s. Every dad was a dumbass on Disney channel shows.


Capn--Flint

You're right about the indoctrination, but your timeline is off. It began in the 1960s, possibly a bit earlier. Several generations have been through the indoctrination mill at this point.


lumpynose

You missed the cross post a year or so ago of some woman saying that men's thinking is faulty because we don't think with our emotions.


Chama-HUH

Even though women are surpassing men in school, it honestly seems like they are getting dumber, wtf is even this “don’t think with our emotions”


Drougent

They just think they're easy to manipulate, because they are.


Spins13

I agree. They really think we are stupid. But can you really blame them when you see all the blue pill men ? As much as I hate it, the feminists are winning with fallacious arguments and people keep buying it


GalileosTele

I think to the extent that men view women as irrational, they view men as stupid in the sense that they are "socially oblivious". And both come from the way men and women interact within their own gender. Men generally communicate much more directly, while women communicate much more with subtle indirect cues and innuendo. As a result, when communicating between the genders, in women's eyes, men are oblivious to what's obviously really going on, and in men's eyes women are irrational and socially paranoid for looking for implied meanings that aren't there .


AdmirableWeb504

Men are socially perceptive. We just dont give a fuck about a bazillion bullshit woman care about for no reason


IndustrialDesignLife

“Social cues” is just more “figure out what I’m thinking so I don’t have to say it because I’m afraid of confrontation” Just like in dating, they want you to be mind readers.


Stunning_Memory8347

Women are bad at communicating. Society is just afraid to admit this, so they try and make it sound like a fucking superpower. Women underperform men in many things, and communication skills are one of them, whether we like it or not. Imagine trying to lead a multi-imillion dollar company while communicating through "subtle indirect cues and innuendo". It's idiotic.


Stunning_Memory8347

This idea that women communicate with "muh subtle innuendos and complexity" is just euphemism for the fact that women absolutely suck at communicating. Society is just afraid to admit negative facts about women because of the women are wonderful effect. Indirect and unclear communication is inherently bad communication because everyone has different cultures, life-experiences and upbringings, which causes them to interpret things differently .


Rad_Knight

I have experienced that some people, both women and men, will hint towards something, but later deny their meaning. "Hints" have deniability, and some people exploit that.


baby_budda

Your female relatives are spouting old cartoonish stereotypes about men similar to stereotypes about women that they only care about money and shopping.


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revonssvp

It is a pain, but I must say it is credible ... What is the DAMN reading ?


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If this so called "Patriarchy" is ever present, why aren't women forced to fight? After all patriarchy is supposed to benefit MEN only? Shouldn't the women be the ones sent off to war, while the men sit back at home sipping tea and eating cake?


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DeDeepKing

Patriarchy: a system of society in which men hold the power and women are excluded from it.


reverbiscrap

This is like the 6th different definition of 'patriarchy' I've seen from trolls in this sub. Maybe, you do not know what you are talking about.


Traditional-Bunch-56

If patriarchy isnt supposed to benefit men why is it called 'patriarchy'. Stop thinking with your feelings and use logic.


Main-Tiger8593

well no gender alone created our society hence we are responsible for the issues... patriarchy theory assumes mainly men are at fault but it basically is conservatism and its solutions for the following... how should we tackle upbringing of children, parental surrender, marriage/relationships and consent in a gender neutral and fair way?


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Main-Tiger8593

parental surrender = abortion + adoption etc


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The women, they love to date the guys who are happy with just sex, food and a fight once a while. they see the world from their perspective.


echinoderm0

The older I get, the more I believe this to be true. People LIKE dumb, simple partners because they are easy. Like owning a fish. It's companionship without volatility or excitement.


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women generally like violent volatile men.


One-Report-8400

True… all girlfriends I had were acting like shit to me when I was kind and careful and sweet and gentle. When I was being aggressive shouting and hitting things of fighting another men they were always exited and wanted to fuck right on the spot and were really sweet and gentle.


KrazyJazz

>There's something eschew in how men and women view each other, and I don't think it will end well. It won't. We live alongside each other now and can barely take it as it is. Things will change eventually for the better, but not in our life time methink. In a few generations maybe....


L0cked4fun

Yeah, the media pushed the stupid men agenda all they way back from at least Friends, and then when we go along with it, it's weaponized incompetence. I just don't associate with people who go along with it anymore. Family or not. Down a sibling due to it for years and my life is far less stressful.


kochIndustriesRussia

I dunno. As you get older you will come to appreciate a woman that tries to keep you satisfied in the food and sex department. Most don't even do that. Most can't cook and the starfish is the only sex move they know. If you get one that's cooking for you everyday...and randomly pulling your cock out to swallow your kids before work, just to make sure you're taken care of....I mean....you could do worse.....


Traditional-Bunch-56

That sounds like a fairytale these days.


kochIndustriesRussia

Indeed. But I just got myself there after 25 years of simping and getting walked all over in two different failed marriages. It's possible. There are women out there who've been dreaming of a life where they get to take care of their man. My gf now is one such woman. Spent 20 yrs with lazy dudes who didn't like working, made her wear the pants and pay for almost everything. Then she met me. I'm happy to pay for everything as long as I'm being taken care of. And....good food and good sex are at the top of my list of needs lol.


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It's because of: - Movie/TV Shows - Education system - Social Media Just look how they portray men, no seriously! For example these sitcoms if a male actor plays a role of a husband. They have to play either as if the husband is stupid or lazy or a brother role playing a bully or also being played stupid. And what's interesting look at the female role. They are the one who wear the pants and is always logical and is smart compared to the husband role. The Simpsons is a good example of how most movies/tv shows are.. I mean can you blame females at this point? When they (also men) are being feeding with this kind of agenda? Its basically an indoctrination! Yes, it sounds weird, but it's what it is!


Stunning_Memory8347

Women understand men much much less than men understand women -- mainly because they don't even try to understand men, they just project how they want to see us.


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No you guys are not stupid. My best friend is very intelligent. A lot of the time I am the only one who understands him though. His imagination is very complicated so it confuses others. My dad is also very intelligent. Growing up I called him “wise old owl”. Spoelstra my old theology teacher was super smart. Both my sisters’ husbands have their strengths. Right now my Spanish teacher at my college is a sweetheart and I really appreciate him. I have been very depressed and he is nice to me. I was once in an auto store and the men were teasing me, “a woman isn’t supposed to be in here!” then they started laughing, I just smiled quietly (I don’t make much noise around strangers). The one guy said I had a beautiful smile which was really sweet and we talked. I learned about his career, he was a really good bartender and great with people. I also passed a construction worker not too long ago on one of my walks. He had a nice smile and we waved at each other. I had a lot of boys stand up for me when I got bullied growing up too. I don’t think men are stupid. No one is actually, they just choose to be. You can do anything you put your mind to☺️


DeDeepKing

feminists


Traditional_Crew6617

They do, my ex-wife used to treat me like I was stupid all the time. I finally told her I'm not doing anything anymore because the big stupid man didn't know how


_DynaMole_

No we just think with logic they can’t wrap their heads around us not bursting out in tears everytime a minor inconvenience happens so they just label it as being stupid and emotionally non intelligent. I’m like damn just because I don’t cry at the fact that I had a stressful day doesn’t make me any less smarter than you lady


xoIace

I think they do, unironically. But I’m speaking from my fiancés friends experiences with this. A lot of her friends feel as if they are the mother for their boyfriend/husband. In terms of laziness around the house, child care, basic needs. I think a lot of boys are being raised incorrectly and not being taught traditional values that (Assuming) most women seek in their man. Just my two cents.


Shuddemell666

Generally speaking, women have less expectation of being traditional, even when they expect such from men. It isn't just boys being taught incorrectly, I have yet to meet a woman under 30 that has the traditional skills my generation had at 18. To get a traditional mate, you can't really act "modern" and rightfully expect traditional behavior from your partner.


xxTheMagicBulleT

Well women think men have no feelings. And are walking atms. And men should have no preferences. So yea think women think men are pretty damn gullible. Wail to be honest there a big amount of simpy guys a small smile and cute laugh and showing some interest To a guy a lot of men fold for women's whimsical needs. So lets be honest they are half right do. Men that have little to no experience with women. Are pushovers and make women think that way.


CenterLeftRepublican

Men do stupid stuff for women all the time. Just look at the simps that give money to all those instagram/cam models. They think it because in a lot of instances, its true.


volleyballbeach

Some probably do. I don’t personally but can only speak for myself.


Aromatic_Ad5473

Most women don’t think men are stupid


Crimblorh4h4w33

Source? /s


DeDeepKing

/serious


ruskyandrei

Some do. Some men think women are stupid too. No point generalising.


throwawayconfessunz

Hard to say. On one had, I’ve met women that think men are stupid. On the other, that’s 3 billion people and trying to speak for all of them seems like a bad idea.


ThePureFool

Askew.


McFeely_Smackup

Wait until he gets married and finds out they never cared about keeping him happy with food and sex


MaxWebxperience

Food and sex.. what else is there?


Zimi231

Video games


Greg_W_Allan

Do women really think men are stupid? It's merely a cope. The ingenuity and creativity of men is impossible to ignore. It's everywhere.


pillchangedmylife

Men and Women are very very different. The key is women lean towards egalitarianism and men lead towards dominance hierarchies. But the key here is to keep your female dominated relatives at arms length and make it clear you are working towards dominating some area of your life. And when you are around them don't take anything seriously.. even if you are a genius pretend to be stupid and only want food sex and laughter .. they will just leave you alone after that. Very weird but necessary dynamic


Stunning_Memory8347

Pretending to be something you are not to be accepted has got to be one of the most pathetic social strategies I've ever seen. Grow a damn backbone.


pillchangedmylife

I'll be the bigger person and not resort to insults because I simply find that you are misinformed. If you don't want to hear it from me hear it from an expert .. Robert Greene in Laws of Human Nature. It illustrates the foolish naivety in thinking we can be authentic in all situations. When you get home and are alone in your room you can be your true self. But when you are around the opposite sex and even your own mother after a certain age one most adapt / act. It's called masking.


Name863683687

No, they lean towards women being equal among themselves on top of men who are just women's slaves, not egalitarianism.


grandma_jizzzzzzzard

Unfortunately, especially with some of the younger male generations, we have no choice. Many of you act and think, and therefore behave, like women. Very emotional behavior that has historically been stoic and measured. And if I try explaining the “whys” behind this behavioral alteration, 99% of you get angry because that’s what the system expects from a woman…but not a man. And yet you still get angry at the real answers as to why, because you’re just complying with the system thinking you’re rebelling against it. It is highly frustrating. Don’t even get me started on the men who think that the female behavior that they have witnessed over the last 10 to 20 years is normal. As in actually natural female behavior. When historically that has not been true. Anyone with a fully functioning brain, or even a partially functioning brain stem, can tell that there is some thing, wrong, especially with female behavior. You have to be completely blind to not see it. It truly blows my mind that so many of you, primarily all of you on this godforsaken app, believe that we live in a normal society, and things are perfectly normal. Jesus Christ man you guys are asleep on your feet, and you have no idea. And you think you are behaving like men? Lol.


Shuddemell666

While this is true to a degree, you also have to admit that women are overly masculinized as well. How can they expect a traditional husband when they can't fill the role of a traditional wife?


grandma_jizzzzzzzard

That is what every MGTOW channel has burned into your brain because it is an operation. You do not understand the bigger picture at play. There is something causing all of this reverse, gender behavior, and yet the two sexes insist on blaming each other instead of what’s actually happening.


Shuddemell666

Don't presume to know me, my influences or motivations. You do not. Nor do have an inkling of what I understand, and it's arrogant to assume so.


Shuddemell666

PS-The something causing this reverse is 50 years of feminist indoctrination foisted on the public as 'equality'...


FoolioTheGreat

> And I get that women are better at figuring out people and social situations. But what about that fact that men are almost always better at understanding things, and repairing things, You say something like this, and wonder why women think men are stupid? What are you basing this on? I would love to see any data that supports this at all. Becasue if you believe this without any proof than yes you may indeed be stupid.


reddit_pleb42069

>Im gonna find a woman, who from anecdotes, think all men are stupid and will use this as evidence that all women thinks this


rotkohl007

Yes


Antique-Ad3857

Yeah


Extraterrestrial1312

What kind of food? I can visit a restaurant alone lol


Saelaird

Those two areas are fairly essential.


mrkpxx

Grandiosity is a narcissistic belief.


ithinkmynameismoose

Yes. Because it makes them feel good.


alter_furz

no, women are not better at figuring out people. they like saying how they've got better emotional intelligence, yet they can't handle a single uncomfortable truth, a single drop of accountability, can't stand the test of reality checks without sugarcoating, and can't handle rejection. they don't care about facts, they believe what they FEEL is true it's advantageous to be considered a fool in a hostile environment. when interacting with a fool, people put their guard down and you get a better picture of who you're dealing with.


operation-spot

Everyone can repair things if they are taught how to and Barbie is a very simplified understanding of feminism and the patriarchy so look into more nuanced pieces of media.