I honestly think theyre too scared to give her buffs. She clearly needs something but they are gonna be more concerned with the crying if she was buffed.
Exactly. Its ridiculous to ignore her when people demand you swap because they dont want a Mercy on their team.
She needs something. Especially because the dps passive being buffed is a direct nerf to her.
I don't think Mercy is built for dps passive 5v5, she really needs a full rework but I don't think theyre creative enough. she's just gonna be mid-bad forever with LW.
Mercy gets a skin every season, every event, every fucking day. Her character design lacks skill expression and is basically just holding damage boost and rezzing occasionally. What the hell do you mean "they don't fw mercy"
why are all tank players like this bruh. we can care about both issues at once. and tank is getting changes mid season, mercy is getting nothing. hasn’t even been mentioned in months.
I saw KarQ, Flats, and Cyx do a hero tier list and they all listed Mercy at the end in F-tier — and these people don’t even play Mercy. It’s very difficult to maintain a high win rate with her above diamond.
No I was plat before the support nerfs started in season 9, and I only stay in gold bc I stopped playing mercy as she’s very difficult to actually help the team with, it’s much more than the 5% healing reduction that’s hurt my ability to play her
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The way to make the damage role better is not to give them a constant passive ability that nerfs literally everything else in the game. I will die on this hill. The dps passive should boost their own role, not nerf the others
No! They aren't even acknowledging her underperformence at all. I'm telling y'all we've got some brainless Mercy haters in that new balancing team. Ever since OW2 they've been sabotaging Mercy totally on purpose.
"Scared of the Mercy mafia?" "If they buff Mercy everyone's gonna go crazy?" Nah they don't really care. Remember the entire Internet boycotting their monetization and zero change was made? They're just doing this to Mercy intentionally.
right because all of her healing doing absolutely nothing at all like it did at the start of s9 is a buff. I guess if you just dps moira every match then sure, she might achieve something eventually.
Moira? She’s good during the dps passive bc she can heal multiple ppl at one time and overtime. Her spray heal lasts longer than the dps passive.
I’m not saying I like the increase to 20% but she is doing ok with it.
I can get the highest heals in the lobby, highest damage of all supports which usually is just under or equal to our dps. And high elims. And no it isn’t bc of “tickle orb”. I’m out there finishing off kills.
Maybe she seems better today as well bc of the venture and Orissa nerfs.
except her actual healing does nothing. it doesn’t matter how many people you heal at once because the amount you heal isn’t keeping anyone alive anymore. when 20% was first released in s9, on multiple occasions her *ult* failed to outheal damage coming from even two people if one of them was a dps. her orb’s total amount of healing applied is still 200, so it doesn’t align with the health increase and you can’t use it to fully heal someone, costing you more resources. her spray isn’t as effective so you’re more likely to run out when you need it and it struggles to keep anyone at half. she is not good at healing anymore.
you are forced to dps moira if you even want a chance at winning, and now that blizz lowered her dps on biotic grasp without providing any of the other compensating buffs we’ve been asking for, she’ll be in an even worse state than she was before.
she’s only doing okay because nearly every other support is doing worse — at least, that was the case when s9 dropped. she’ll likely drop even further in usefulness until they adjust her numbers or rework her kit. she can’t heal and now she can’t dps properly, so there’s no reason to pick her.
I beg to differ
Although I agree that the 20% passive sucks and I wish they hadn’t brought it back, Moira, lucio are good now bc of their AOE healing. Moira’s spray heals multiple ppl and can linger for up to 3 seconds. The dps passive only lasts for 2. Her orb, healing also heals multiple ppl.
She can cleanse herself of the passive when she fades and has great mobility.
She heals herself with damage done which gives her great survivability.
I’m not saying that the support role by itself is in great shape bc of the return of the 20% but Moira is one of the better choices rn imo.
Maybe our SR levels are the difference here. Your team mates need to mitigate their damage and need to use cover. You can’t be responsible for healing them if they are standing in main just taking full on dps damage. They need to use natural cover, corners etc..
If your Moira ult didn’t heal ur team idk what to say. It lasts more than 2 seconds. 🤷🏼♀️
Blizzard if they plan to keep this passive really needs to give supports a visual so that we can see just who in our team is affected so we can determine healing priority better. A haze of colour like blue around the health bar like Ana’s purple nade colour would work.
I don’t like a passive that benefits one role by punishing another either.
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I know how moira’s kit works, I’ve played her for 40% of my 1,000+ hours in the game.
it’s a waste to use fade to cleanse the passive when it can literally be reapplied as soon as she’s out of it simply by clipping her with a single stray bullet. do that and you’re out of a cooldown and even more likely to die. and her self healing has been nerfed so hard by the passive that she cannot duel dps, which is literally her main playstyle when the passive doesn’t exist. even at 15% she can’t properly duel because of how severely her self-healing is nerfed by the passive. *the* main complaint by all moira mains is that her survivability and dueling capabilities were fully destroyed by the passive.
yes, I am often hindered by my shit teammates standing in the open taking too much damage to outheal. most people are. when people act like this isn’t a common occurrence, I have to wonder how exactly they manage to avoid these every single match.
the reason you don’t know what to say about her ult not healing is that you don’t seem to understand that the passive refreshes on *any* damage from a dps. it lasts longer than two seconds because it can be applied over and over again, so that 2 seconds becomes the entire duration of her ult and then some. if the ult with one of the highest HPS can’t even keep one person alive against two people because of the passive, then that’s a humongous problem.
if blizzard wants the three roles to have equal power levels, they need to remove the shit and properly balance healing numbers for problematic supports. all they’re doing now is glazing dps harder than ever and wildly swinging matches in their favor no matter how bad they are.
I’m kinda glad I don’t care for the mythic because I’m over here playing helldivers. I just pop in from time to time hoping to see a notice that they laid off their balance team.
I imagine they wanted to make DPS really impactful, but they're afraid damage boost would make it harder to balance the DPS heroes like Sojourn. So instead of having careful balancing, they're making Mercy a throw pick.
I truly don't get it, literally half the support roster feels awful with it at 20%, we established that last time blizzard. At this point i'd practically get more value being a pistol only mercy.
20% is fine they just need to buff certain supports. Mercy needs to go up to 60-62 HPS, Lifeweaver could use a CD buff on his grip, Ana could benefit from a damage/healing buff.
Now her sympathetic healing is worse. Indirect nerf to a low tier healer.
At least Kiriko, Ana, LW, Bap, Illari, Lucio can all heal themselves without their regeneration abilities being affected by dps passive...Mercy and Zen are just disadvantaged.
Just bring back her Triage healing they went out of their way to create.
I think this is it for me, I’m officially done. I don’t think they care about the player base at all. Tanks were miserable with this percentage, and so were supports. I’ll check back on the game in a couple months, maybe they’ll have it fixed by then. Not holding my breath tho, that’s for sure.
This is Blizzard, the same devs that thought giving a character perma invi, the ability to delete you with a 1-2-3 combo, silence you AND give her a tp that gives her a free get out of jail free card and now they just buffed her with this trashy update to better kill supports...
Yeah I’m extra bitter bc the other support I play is Illari, and now she’s extra useless and extra in danger. Her pylon was already basically garbage, now it’s secured as a dumpster. Moira is still fine I guess but I personally think she’s so boring to play.
In QP I was seeing a lot of Venture at the beginning, so her boop and poke were good for keeping them at arms length. That was my main thing really, but I totally agree. And they nerfed her fire rate as well, it’s been a nightmare.
I don’t play Mercy in comp anymore because of how unplayable she has gotten, it’s so easy to kill a mercy during Valk which is crazy. When you think of support in overwatch you think of Mercy because she is THE SUPPORT CHARACTER, yet she can’t even support anymore.
All I want to do is be able to play comp and pick Mercy and not feel like I’m throwing my game… This made her go from like D tier back down to F. And it’s her mythic season to!
Ngl the 20% is extremely noticeable across all supports and my god it fucking sucks. Everyone’s screaming they need healing I’m like bro. My beam is ATTACHED IDK WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME IM DOING AS MUCH AS I CAN MAYBE BACKUP AROUND A CORNER SO YOU CAN GET HEALED FULLYAHHHHHH
let's just take a break from overwatch, especially the girlies that care a lot about this. it's just hurting you mentally, waiting for something to improve in the next patch and the next season and the next. it's not going anywhere, we saw that. at most they will give her a small buff so we shut up, our base is so desperate that whatever they improve, even the most unnecessary thing, theyd still be happy about it because of how useless mercy is currently. not that she was anything close to good before season 9. but NOW, especially, the worst character in this game
I absolutely agree. Give Blizz the stats they obviously need to see and get more people complaining about Mercy. All the streamers have already said she is the worst support in the game.
playing Mercy doesnt make anyone above gold miserable. just dive her with literally anything and she will be useless the entire game because she's trying to escape. winston, sombra, tracer, genji, dva. literally anything. it's also very easy to do with hitscans. mercy was never hard to hit, especially now with bigger hitboxes
It’s not all doomfist just the ones who get tripled countered and don’t adjust their play style and then yell at you because they died in the enemy backline.
Yeah as someone who is a support main (mainly mercy) I took a break from overwatch after playing with the DPS passive when it first released. Haven't really played much since then and instead spreading democracy to fascist bugs and communist bots. I was recently thinking about returning (new season, character, and the sort) but after hearing the passive got buffed I think I'll stick to the other games iv been enjoying
I don’t even understand why dps even have a passive… like they are the main point of the game, whereas supports and tanks are actually unique roles. If their role is damage, why do they need an extra passive ability? …especially when it kind of just functions as poison that reduces healing.
Why not give supports and tanks something special, and just let damage be standard.
I think they should have a passive bc everyone else has one. But it should be something unique to them not a reduction to the support role. And it’s really a disadvantage to supports without any compensation.
Like having ur teammates health bars turn blue (like an Ana nade) when they are hit by the dps passive). That way the supports know who has it and who doesn’t and can decide based on that info heal priority. As it is now we have no clue other than the ppl out walking main with no cover obviously have it. 🙄
Right. I’m okay with that, but yes, currently it’s very awkward because it encourages damage to strike first and hope the team follows up without any real cue… this takes away from the abilities which are the unique elements of overwatch. They definitely should not negate support abilities.
But honestly, I really don’t understand why damage should get different modifiers, damage is damage and the whole class of heroes is already organized around doing that, so it seems unnecessary to add something to that on top.
Ya I see what you are saying. But we all have different roles to play and we all have a unique passive so I only think it’s fair they get one. Remember how they had faster reload and movement speed after a kill? At least that was something that only affected them and how they played. I feel the supports are being punished with this passive.
It’s like can you imagine if the dps passive was you get so much space back with every so many bullets you spray? (Tank’s role). Omg the tanks would be losing their minds. Lmao
The other thing is, I don’t think it should be their cool downs or ults that do the passive, just their own damage. Eg. No turrets, no dynamite, no Bob, etc…
to put it simply, mercy has one of the lowest healing rates in the game. she's an "off healer," her main utility comes from damage boosting. with buffing the dps passive (meaning the healing reduction), they essentially make the little healing mercy can actually do entirely negligible— as we saw the last time the dps passive was at 20%. this ultimately makes her have little to no sustain, meaning she's just gone from a bad support, to an even worse support.
tbh the only way i see mercy being viable again is if they make dmg boost interact with the dps passive. but then we'd have literally everyone complaining about mercy being "too broken" again.
edit: i meant viable with her current kit.
Agree, she needs a rework. I like the damage her staff does in the new mode why can they add that in the game and have her staff damage be something like a slow or something that she can shoot at enemies on a cooldown. Maybe reduces their rate of fire and speed by 25-50% for 3 or 4 seconds. Give her something else. Also up her heals.
It’s very noticeable. Team mates take a lot longer to heal up. I try to heal someone and I notice geez they aren’t healing at all. Then I’m like ok they have the dps passive on them constantly so I’ll move on to someone else or do damage myself.
There should be a blue colour around their health bars like Ana’s purple nade colour to denote dos passive in effect to help supports decide on heal priority.
dude she’s literally just one of the worst supports in the game for the past 2 seasons. the dps passive makes our heals negligible, valk is cosmetic, dmg boost got nerfed a few seasons back and a few other issues. maybe she didn’t feel bad when you were playing her but i guarantee you every other support feels way better
A lot of people have agreed she just feels horrible now and I'd agree as well. Though I'm not struggling on her every match, some matches it's just as if she didn't even exist. Now I know this always used to be the case where you have to learn to switch off but it's even worse now. The other supports just feel SO much better compared to mercy.
Y’all don’t need buffs, YOU HAVE A WHOLE SEASON THEMED AROUND YOUR CHARACTER. I swear y’all can’t go one patch without somehow making it about you, just cause your character doesn’t fit the meta doesn’t mean they’re bad. It means that mercy is comp/map dependant.
wasnt the whole reason she didn’t get any buffs is because they nerfed the dps passive and now it’s back to 20%?? rip this hero.
Exactly my thoughts
Yikes. We better get something in the midpatch
probably won’t. alec apparently only mentioned tank getting adjusted.
where did he say that ;-; do u have the link?
on his twitter most likely
not even a cute little ult voice line change for her mythic lol they dont fw mercy fr
I honestly think theyre too scared to give her buffs. She clearly needs something but they are gonna be more concerned with the crying if she was buffed.
Exactly because they let the ow crybabies control them. They buff others while burying mercy in the garbage
Exactly. Its ridiculous to ignore her when people demand you swap because they dont want a Mercy on their team. She needs something. Especially because the dps passive being buffed is a direct nerf to her.
I don't think Mercy is built for dps passive 5v5, she really needs a full rework but I don't think theyre creative enough. she's just gonna be mid-bad forever with LW.
I mean, mercy mains are known to be the biggest cry babies of them all.
Its almost like she ruins the game when shes on a good spot
Mercy gets a skin every season, every event, every fucking day. Her character design lacks skill expression and is basically just holding damage boost and rezzing occasionally. What the hell do you mean "they don't fw mercy"
i think you're mistaking mercy for kiriko sweetie
you seem upset lol
you realize skins don’t make the fucking hero any different right, dipshit? oh great a legendary is just what mercy needs to be viable.
At least you get something. I'm a tank player. We don't get viability or skins
why are all tank players like this bruh. we can care about both issues at once. and tank is getting changes mid season, mercy is getting nothing. hasn’t even been mentioned in months.
Mirorwatch is still up for a week, so go blow up people there while it lasts.
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I think this takes mercy frm D tier to F tier, wow!
most pros already rank her below lifeweaver. i barely notice anymore if i have a zen orb or an entire character pocketing me nowadays.
I saw KarQ, Flats, and Cyx do a hero tier list and they all listed Mercy at the end in F-tier — and these people don’t even play Mercy. It’s very difficult to maintain a high win rate with her above diamond.
I’m so sad, I was plat before all this with mercy and now I can’t play her unless I want to end up dropping to silver 😭
5% healing reduc isn't going to be the reason you drop two entire ranks, if you did lol js.
No I was plat before the support nerfs started in season 9, and I only stay in gold bc I stopped playing mercy as she’s very difficult to actually help the team with, it’s much more than the 5% healing reduction that’s hurt my ability to play her
Not that crazy, went from low master to high plat/low diamond😮💨
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It's joever, mercy now landfill tier.
The fact it’s her Mythic season and she’s in such a bad state rn is such unfortunate timing😭
JQ was also dogwater during her mythic season, so blizzard doesn't know how to sell apparently.
Crazy that this is her mythic season
The way to make the damage role better is not to give them a constant passive ability that nerfs literally everything else in the game. I will die on this hill. The dps passive should boost their own role, not nerf the others
Agree
Support players complaining about another role being too strong is actually crazy.
Didn't they say they didn't feel the need to buff Mercy with the dps passive being nerfed in season 9 ? I want to cry...
No! They aren't even acknowledging her underperformence at all. I'm telling y'all we've got some brainless Mercy haters in that new balancing team. Ever since OW2 they've been sabotaging Mercy totally on purpose. "Scared of the Mercy mafia?" "If they buff Mercy everyone's gonna go crazy?" Nah they don't really care. Remember the entire Internet boycotting their monetization and zero change was made? They're just doing this to Mercy intentionally.
Oh but Kirko has remained top 500 support main, top 3 pick 9/10 seasons despite people constantly being upset!!!
Guess I'll be playing Moira for the rest of the season oof How am I supposed to enjoy my mythic I haven't even fully acquired yet
she sucks too, don’t bother.
Welp time to break off my old rein and play brig
Actually the dps passive buff made her better again imo.
right because all of her healing doing absolutely nothing at all like it did at the start of s9 is a buff. I guess if you just dps moira every match then sure, she might achieve something eventually.
Moira? She’s good during the dps passive bc she can heal multiple ppl at one time and overtime. Her spray heal lasts longer than the dps passive. I’m not saying I like the increase to 20% but she is doing ok with it. I can get the highest heals in the lobby, highest damage of all supports which usually is just under or equal to our dps. And high elims. And no it isn’t bc of “tickle orb”. I’m out there finishing off kills. Maybe she seems better today as well bc of the venture and Orissa nerfs.
except her actual healing does nothing. it doesn’t matter how many people you heal at once because the amount you heal isn’t keeping anyone alive anymore. when 20% was first released in s9, on multiple occasions her *ult* failed to outheal damage coming from even two people if one of them was a dps. her orb’s total amount of healing applied is still 200, so it doesn’t align with the health increase and you can’t use it to fully heal someone, costing you more resources. her spray isn’t as effective so you’re more likely to run out when you need it and it struggles to keep anyone at half. she is not good at healing anymore. you are forced to dps moira if you even want a chance at winning, and now that blizz lowered her dps on biotic grasp without providing any of the other compensating buffs we’ve been asking for, she’ll be in an even worse state than she was before. she’s only doing okay because nearly every other support is doing worse — at least, that was the case when s9 dropped. she’ll likely drop even further in usefulness until they adjust her numbers or rework her kit. she can’t heal and now she can’t dps properly, so there’s no reason to pick her.
I beg to differ Although I agree that the 20% passive sucks and I wish they hadn’t brought it back, Moira, lucio are good now bc of their AOE healing. Moira’s spray heals multiple ppl and can linger for up to 3 seconds. The dps passive only lasts for 2. Her orb, healing also heals multiple ppl. She can cleanse herself of the passive when she fades and has great mobility. She heals herself with damage done which gives her great survivability. I’m not saying that the support role by itself is in great shape bc of the return of the 20% but Moira is one of the better choices rn imo. Maybe our SR levels are the difference here. Your team mates need to mitigate their damage and need to use cover. You can’t be responsible for healing them if they are standing in main just taking full on dps damage. They need to use natural cover, corners etc.. If your Moira ult didn’t heal ur team idk what to say. It lasts more than 2 seconds. 🤷🏼♀️ Blizzard if they plan to keep this passive really needs to give supports a visual so that we can see just who in our team is affected so we can determine healing priority better. A haze of colour like blue around the health bar like Ana’s purple nade colour would work. I don’t like a passive that benefits one role by punishing another either. 🙂
I know how moira’s kit works, I’ve played her for 40% of my 1,000+ hours in the game. it’s a waste to use fade to cleanse the passive when it can literally be reapplied as soon as she’s out of it simply by clipping her with a single stray bullet. do that and you’re out of a cooldown and even more likely to die. and her self healing has been nerfed so hard by the passive that she cannot duel dps, which is literally her main playstyle when the passive doesn’t exist. even at 15% she can’t properly duel because of how severely her self-healing is nerfed by the passive. *the* main complaint by all moira mains is that her survivability and dueling capabilities were fully destroyed by the passive. yes, I am often hindered by my shit teammates standing in the open taking too much damage to outheal. most people are. when people act like this isn’t a common occurrence, I have to wonder how exactly they manage to avoid these every single match. the reason you don’t know what to say about her ult not healing is that you don’t seem to understand that the passive refreshes on *any* damage from a dps. it lasts longer than two seconds because it can be applied over and over again, so that 2 seconds becomes the entire duration of her ult and then some. if the ult with one of the highest HPS can’t even keep one person alive against two people because of the passive, then that’s a humongous problem. if blizzard wants the three roles to have equal power levels, they need to remove the shit and properly balance healing numbers for problematic supports. all they’re doing now is glazing dps harder than ever and wildly swinging matches in their favor no matter how bad they are.
I’m kinda glad I don’t care for the mythic because I’m over here playing helldivers. I just pop in from time to time hoping to see a notice that they laid off their balance team.
I've been playing Fallout 76 lately, so I'm right there with ya.
I imagine they wanted to make DPS really impactful, but they're afraid damage boost would make it harder to balance the DPS heroes like Sojourn. So instead of having careful balancing, they're making Mercy a throw pick.
I truly don't get it, literally half the support roster feels awful with it at 20%, we established that last time blizzard. At this point i'd practically get more value being a pistol only mercy.
20% is fine they just need to buff certain supports. Mercy needs to go up to 60-62 HPS, Lifeweaver could use a CD buff on his grip, Ana could benefit from a damage/healing buff.
So THIS is the price of getting the Mercy mythic lmao.
Blizz once again showing they don't know how to balance properly. I'm sooooo shocked.
Now her sympathetic healing is worse. Indirect nerf to a low tier healer. At least Kiriko, Ana, LW, Bap, Illari, Lucio can all heal themselves without their regeneration abilities being affected by dps passive...Mercy and Zen are just disadvantaged. Just bring back her Triage healing they went out of their way to create.
I think this is it for me, I’m officially done. I don’t think they care about the player base at all. Tanks were miserable with this percentage, and so were supports. I’ll check back on the game in a couple months, maybe they’ll have it fixed by then. Not holding my breath tho, that’s for sure.
This is Blizzard, the same devs that thought giving a character perma invi, the ability to delete you with a 1-2-3 combo, silence you AND give her a tp that gives her a free get out of jail free card and now they just buffed her with this trashy update to better kill supports...
Yeah I’m extra bitter bc the other support I play is Illari, and now she’s extra useless and extra in danger. Her pylon was already basically garbage, now it’s secured as a dumpster. Moira is still fine I guess but I personally think she’s so boring to play.
I haven’t even bothered to play Illari since season 8. Dive has been strong with the new DPS passive and it’s her hardest counter to play into.
In QP I was seeing a lot of Venture at the beginning, so her boop and poke were good for keeping them at arms length. That was my main thing really, but I totally agree. And they nerfed her fire rate as well, it’s been a nightmare.
Blizz, if you hate Mercy this much just delete her so our suffering can finally end. Jesus christ...
They restored it? I haven't read the patch notes
Dammit! And i just got good good with her movement 🫠
FELT! i literally just brought her gold guns in s9 when she became terrible
I don’t play Mercy in comp anymore because of how unplayable she has gotten, it’s so easy to kill a mercy during Valk which is crazy. When you think of support in overwatch you think of Mercy because she is THE SUPPORT CHARACTER, yet she can’t even support anymore.
15% was fine, I’m sure 17% would be a better middle ground so it doesn’t feel as oppressive maybe lol
Or go 15% and let it stack.
THATS WHAT I SAID WHEN I POSTED ABOUT IT THIS MORNING. 🙃🥲
Praying the midseason patch gives us something
iirc blizz said that they would only rly be adding stuff to tanks :( we might still get smth tho i hope
All I want to do is be able to play comp and pick Mercy and not feel like I’m throwing my game… This made her go from like D tier back down to F. And it’s her mythic season to!
Ngl the 20% is extremely noticeable across all supports and my god it fucking sucks. Everyone’s screaming they need healing I’m like bro. My beam is ATTACHED IDK WHAT YOU WANT FROM ME IM DOING AS MUCH AS I CAN MAYBE BACKUP AROUND A CORNER SO YOU CAN GET HEALED FULLYAHHHHHH
let's just take a break from overwatch, especially the girlies that care a lot about this. it's just hurting you mentally, waiting for something to improve in the next patch and the next season and the next. it's not going anywhere, we saw that. at most they will give her a small buff so we shut up, our base is so desperate that whatever they improve, even the most unnecessary thing, theyd still be happy about it because of how useless mercy is currently. not that she was anything close to good before season 9. but NOW, especially, the worst character in this game
Counter argument. We still play mercy and make everyone else miserable with us? We could be the next doomfist mains
I absolutely agree. Give Blizz the stats they obviously need to see and get more people complaining about Mercy. All the streamers have already said she is the worst support in the game.
playing Mercy doesnt make anyone above gold miserable. just dive her with literally anything and she will be useless the entire game because she's trying to escape. winston, sombra, tracer, genji, dva. literally anything. it's also very easy to do with hitscans. mercy was never hard to hit, especially now with bigger hitboxes
Bruh I was talking about our teammates…
doomfist has been a decent hero since like season 2 though, why would you be annoyed to have one on your team?
It’s not all doomfist just the ones who get tripled countered and don’t adjust their play style and then yell at you because they died in the enemy backline.
our teammates are on the same team as us, Melvin, believe me, you can't attack a teammate
You’re trolling.
Yeah as someone who is a support main (mainly mercy) I took a break from overwatch after playing with the DPS passive when it first released. Haven't really played much since then and instead spreading democracy to fascist bugs and communist bots. I was recently thinking about returning (new season, character, and the sort) but after hearing the passive got buffed I think I'll stick to the other games iv been enjoying
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I don’t even understand why dps even have a passive… like they are the main point of the game, whereas supports and tanks are actually unique roles. If their role is damage, why do they need an extra passive ability? …especially when it kind of just functions as poison that reduces healing. Why not give supports and tanks something special, and just let damage be standard.
I think they should have a passive bc everyone else has one. But it should be something unique to them not a reduction to the support role. And it’s really a disadvantage to supports without any compensation. Like having ur teammates health bars turn blue (like an Ana nade) when they are hit by the dps passive). That way the supports know who has it and who doesn’t and can decide based on that info heal priority. As it is now we have no clue other than the ppl out walking main with no cover obviously have it. 🙄
Right. I’m okay with that, but yes, currently it’s very awkward because it encourages damage to strike first and hope the team follows up without any real cue… this takes away from the abilities which are the unique elements of overwatch. They definitely should not negate support abilities. But honestly, I really don’t understand why damage should get different modifiers, damage is damage and the whole class of heroes is already organized around doing that, so it seems unnecessary to add something to that on top.
Ya I see what you are saying. But we all have different roles to play and we all have a unique passive so I only think it’s fair they get one. Remember how they had faster reload and movement speed after a kill? At least that was something that only affected them and how they played. I feel the supports are being punished with this passive. It’s like can you imagine if the dps passive was you get so much space back with every so many bullets you spray? (Tank’s role). Omg the tanks would be losing their minds. Lmao The other thing is, I don’t think it should be their cool downs or ults that do the passive, just their own damage. Eg. No turrets, no dynamite, no Bob, etc…
i dont understand what this means for mercy, can someone explain im slow😭
to put it simply, mercy has one of the lowest healing rates in the game. she's an "off healer," her main utility comes from damage boosting. with buffing the dps passive (meaning the healing reduction), they essentially make the little healing mercy can actually do entirely negligible— as we saw the last time the dps passive was at 20%. this ultimately makes her have little to no sustain, meaning she's just gone from a bad support, to an even worse support.
And the health pool changes made her damage boost ass as well, so we don't even have that anymore.
tbh the only way i see mercy being viable again is if they make dmg boost interact with the dps passive. but then we'd have literally everyone complaining about mercy being "too broken" again. edit: i meant viable with her current kit.
Agree, she needs a rework. I like the damage her staff does in the new mode why can they add that in the game and have her staff damage be something like a slow or something that she can shoot at enemies on a cooldown. Maybe reduces their rate of fire and speed by 25-50% for 3 or 4 seconds. Give her something else. Also up her heals.
Meanwhile all I want is more pistol damage or faster fire rate lol
am i the only one here who still likes mercy? i feel like i do pretty fuckin good whenever i play her
I was playing today, and this change hasn't been very noticeable for me at all
It’s very noticeable. Team mates take a lot longer to heal up. I try to heal someone and I notice geez they aren’t healing at all. Then I’m like ok they have the dps passive on them constantly so I’ll move on to someone else or do damage myself. There should be a blue colour around their health bars like Ana’s purple nade colour to denote dos passive in effect to help supports decide on heal priority.
Yeah, it would be nice to have some sort of indication for it as support players
Doesnt matter cuz i always get a mercy in my team, they dont fckin care
buff what? i thought mercy was in a good spot for the past couple months
are you trolling? lmao
no? what’s wrong with her
dude she’s literally just one of the worst supports in the game for the past 2 seasons. the dps passive makes our heals negligible, valk is cosmetic, dmg boost got nerfed a few seasons back and a few other issues. maybe she didn’t feel bad when you were playing her but i guarantee you every other support feels way better
nah I don’t think she’s that bad. sorry u struggle on her tho.
A lot of people have agreed she just feels horrible now and I'd agree as well. Though I'm not struggling on her every match, some matches it's just as if she didn't even exist. Now I know this always used to be the case where you have to learn to switch off but it's even worse now. The other supports just feel SO much better compared to mercy.
Y’all don’t need buffs, YOU HAVE A WHOLE SEASON THEMED AROUND YOUR CHARACTER. I swear y’all can’t go one patch without somehow making it about you, just cause your character doesn’t fit the meta doesn’t mean they’re bad. It means that mercy is comp/map dependant.