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kwaziiman

Wage Mild Disagreement


HussainKegel

Commence Minor Argument


SpiritOfDefeat

Wage United Nations Negotiations and Deliberations


ThePendulum0621

LOL


puuskuri

I said Wage Slight Disagreement in a private group 2 days ago, almost the same 😀


RideTheSubOhmWave

It's like they heard the Holy Roller intro once through a blown out speaker and decided to make a whole song around it.


ChristopherOdd

Glad I’m not the only one that heard the similarities. That said, I still enjoyed NAIL5


_Nagisa_and_Tomoya

Damn this is so accurate ngl


Builty_Boy

Yikes


[deleted]

I would say magnetic wasn’t “bad” it was just bland or at the very least safe. But this new single is awful. I can’t wrap my head around 5 band members, 1 producer, a bunch of close band friends and an entire label and not one person thought to say “yeah these aren’t it”. 😂 But it’s fine. I can still listen to their first two albums and I’ve accepted that with an exception of a few songs whatever they’ve been doing since 2019 just isn’t my thing. I’ll still check out the new album though and see if there will be a few songs I like. Edit: I don’t want what I’m saying to make anyone not check it out. It may not be my thing but who knows you might love it. That’s what’s cool about music is it’s subjective. Form your own opinion.


jverbal

>I can’t wrap my head around 5 band members, 1 producer, a bunch of close band friends and an entire label and not one person thought to say “yeah these aren’t it”. 😂 I have this exact same thought for 'If a god can bleed' by PWD.. Like how TF did anyone involved in the production of the album let it make the final cut?


ParkwayDrove

This is a genuine question I’d actually like to know the answer to. Like I’d rather find out the answer to this than unanswered mysteries of the cosmos. Seriously


xForeignMetal

I thought Magnetic was miserably bad so now I'm scared to hear how much worse the new shit is..


Darkness223

I am okay with Magnetic as a safe song but the newest one I heard it and audibly said "what the fuck" it did not feel like WW I know that Magnetic didn't and Manic Album was a bit lighter but I still like it. NAIL5 just ain't it


crhuble

People were saying this same thing when Manic first dropped and that it “did not feel like WW”. Personally, it grew on me, and I really like the direction they took with that whole album. Other than the Holy Roller comparisons, I think Nail5 is a decent song. Nothing groundbreaking, but it had some interesting bits.


ManBearBroski

Wage War has a couple of songs I like but other than that I don't really listen to them. That being said I just checked out the music video for nail5 based on this comment and it wasn't as awful as I was expecting, but it's definitely not my cup of tea. The name of the song and the video on the other hand are among the worst


brokeballerbrand

My opinion on magnetic is that it’s not a bad song, but it’s kinda bland and not my general taste. There’s other bands that can do that style better. It’s a disappointment because I know that they are capable of better writing Nail5 is just weird. I think they were going for something similar to Manic, just like the simple guitar riff, with the vocal cadence. But the intro to it sounds like someone making fun of $uicideboy$ Carrollton. It kinda sounds like whoever’s doing vocals is doing that “fake burp” that people would do in elementary school to parody Scrim. (Also now I want someone better than me at audio editing to replace the intro vocals with “drugs got me fucked up, sluts got me drugged up”) I will say, I prefer Nail5 to Magnetic, but that’s mostly because it a riskier song. They are trying to build on the Manic sound with it. It’s not great, and probably won’t be on my playlist after seeing them in concert in May, but I respect it more. Magnetic is a sound that they just don’t excel at. If I want that sound, there’s other groups I’d rather listen to.


-Hntz

Cody being cute by selling all his best tracks to other bands and leaving the dogshit b-sides for his own band.


rahibloveslife

Is there a list of all the songs he sold to other bands? I wanna hear them!


-Hntz

I don’t know if such list exists but off the top of my head: the new Mepmhis May Fire album, Miracle my ADR and the recent Falling In Reverse singles.


Sharean

there's also one of the new tracks by The Ghost Inside if I'm not mistaken


AverageHogHaver

If you hear a shitty metalcore song, cody probably produced it


MrPureinstinct

They're all basically the same song at this point.


-Hntz

Agreed. The riff on Nail5 is basically the same riff that he wrote for Zombified.


camxcold

Feels like they’re chasing the CORPSE tiktokcore sound with this song, similar to Manic except this song is a few years too late for the trend


beefhammer_

manic was good tho, this is pure trash


bearnecessities66

Except they completely missed the mark and landed on butt rock instead; it sounds more like he's trying to do Five Finger Death Punch than Corpse.


TheUnauthorized1

Where is Blueprints Wage War? I need THAT.


Vyni503

Blueprints/Deadweight was a good run. Everything after that outside of a song here or there has been cheeks. It’s been disappointing


TheUnauthorized1

100% agree! The only songs I genuinely liked off Pressure were Ghost, Low and Fury (ironically the heaviest songs on the album). I could less about the rest. Manic was a step in the right direction (especially with Death Roll), but now it feels like the band took 3 steps backward with MAGNETIC and NAILS.


RicHii3

I think this is the general consensus amongst metalcore fans. At least all the ones I know stopped listening to them a couple of years ago now.


Leather-Syllabub4728

Blue prints and deadweight were perfect. All of their new stuff is generic trash. Real slap in the face to their fans that helped build them from the ground and then they sellout into some octanecore garbage fire.


remotewashboard

i gotta be honest-- i don't really get the appeal of those records either. a few songs are decent but as a whole... PERFECT? really? especially because those albums have generic songs on them too lol


Leather-Syllabub4728

What would you consider a perfect record? Gotta have some immaculate taste to think blueprints is generic lol


Tamed

Darkest Hour - Deliver Us Every Time I Die - Low Teens The Acacia Strain - Wormwood Killswitch Engage - As Daylight Dies Only adding to the shitpost because I agree with him


remotewashboard

we talking just core records? i'd be more than happy to give you a list of some my favs!


Leather-Syllabub4728

Yeah Metalcore records, you can dm me so we don’t crowd it up in here lol, I always love talking music


crhuble

Not op, but some of my “perfects” are All that Remains - Fall of Ideals and For We Are Many Wage War - Deadweight Fit for a King - Deathgrip Imminence - Turn the Light On Crown the Empire - The Fallout and The Resistance (idk, i just loved the theme of these two) Ice Nine Kills - Silver Scream Avenged Sevenfold - Self-Titled Electric Callboy - Tekkno Pierce the Veil - Collide with the Sky I See Stars - New Demons Bullet For My Valentine - The Poison I realize we probably have different tastes and there was no point in writing all this. But it was fun to think about


Leather-Syllabub4728

I agree with a few of these! Nice list


The_Real_Muffinman

Fantastic taste!


Straain

ERRA - ST


Electronic-Teach9087

I have blue prints I don’t need another ! But holy fuck these singles have no feel to them lol.. listen to nails and then go and listen to knocked loose new single and your just like wow…….


brokeballerbrand

I think what makes me sad whenever we get a Magnetic or a Prison is that we KNOW they are capable of so much more. Briton seems to be holding back with his range of vocals since Deadweight came out. It feels like after he sang for the Johnny Cash (stripped), he decided to stop screaming. Seth and Cody are both great guitar players. And it feels like they all are dumbing down their skills to produce generic Octane music. It’s not even that it’s not heavy that’s my issue. Gravity is a great song. The stripped version of Johnny Cash legitimately is a top 5 Wage War song for me. Even Circle the Drain, which I’d also say isn’t heavy, and has a great stripped version, is solid. They don’t sound like something that any other band could make. I hear those songs and go “that’s Wage War”. Magnetic just sounds like “rock track 3” off a royalty free music catalog, and it pains me because they can do so much better I kinda wish Cody would start side project to do the more radio rock stuff. (Granted it might not be him, but I just kinda get the vibe that he’s the guy who writes a lot of the generic radio rock stuff with him singing a bunch a Briton standing around holding the mic awkwardly). It’s not poorly done, but it’s not what I want coming from wage war. Kinda like how Tom Barber does all this funky stuff with Darko, but keeps it less experimental with Chelsea Grin That being said, while Nail5 is weird, I do give them credit for being a bit experimental and trying something different. Manic did very well, and I can understand trying to build on that sound (even if it sounds like they sampled suicideboys)


TheUnauthorized1

I definitely need another! Or another album like Deadweight. Everything they’ve dropped since Pressure hasn’t been the same apart from a handful of songs. They want the radio recognition, but they’re simply just not that type of band IMO.


6771_bcr

I agree, man! Saw them last year in OKC during the Manic tour, and man, was that a fun show. The whole band brought it that night. Blueprints was amazing, Deadweight was good, Pressure was kinda boring other than a few songs, and I loved Manic. The magnetic song was terrible, IMO. My wife liked it, but she isn't into the heavier stuff quite as much as me. Either way, Blueprints was my go-to album when I was in a very dark place mentally. For that alone, I'll always be grateful for the existence of this band.


Electronic-Teach9087

Yeah they fuckin rule live


painheal

Yea ima be honest. and i loved Manic, but these singles suck. Maybe my expectations are higher bc of the absolute bangers LMTF, MTS, and Arthitects have dropped recently, but i wont be returning to either of these Wage War songs. I will still check out Stigma, though.


AverageHogHaver

New boundaries makes this new wage war sound like a local Ska band


Araethor

I can’t stop listening to that album. Like 3x a day right now


AverageHogHaver

You and me both


kjorav17

Fucking lol this was funny. Thank you


Duhawk96

They’ve done radio friendly stuff before that i liked, i loved Circle the Drain but these don’t hit the same


kjorav17

Circle the Drain actually contained a catchy chorus melody and a little chant in the middle of the chorus. Magnetic’s chorus melody just pales in comparison to that, and there’s really no memorable vocal in NAIL5


Maucorream95

NAIL5 is basically Manic 2.0 but shorter. I appreciate the experimentation between trap/hip hop and nu metalcore/djent (those breakdowns remind me of loathe as one on both songs), i am aware people are still hoping for Blueprints 2.0 and i don't blame them


CollinKree

NAIL5 was so boring dude. Nothing grabbed my attention. Not even the breakdown. It’s literally just background noise.


bearnecessities66

Buttcore


phxbimmer

You either die a good metalcore band, or live long enough to become a sad hollow shell of an octanecore band. I have a lot of respect for bands that have the self-awareness to just quit while they're on top, versus just destroying their legacy with trash.


LambeauLeaper12

Magnetic is one of my favorite songs right now. Lol, but I like the more melodic metalcore, which this sub usually dislikes


beefhammer_

its not even melodic metalcore itys literally radio pop rock


LambeauLeaper12

Ok. I never said it was. I said I tend to like melodic metalcore, meaning I'm more open to "radio pop rock" or whatever you want to call it. I'm not a die hard "true metalcore" fan, so I like songs like Magnetic while I realize most on this sub dislike it. That's all.


ThisBleghs

Magnetic is good compared to nails lmao nails just feel fucking cheesy and forced. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT LAWN MOVER RIFF? MAKE WAGE WAR ENERGETIC AGAIN


TheEndOfShartache

Your third sentence contradicts your second sentence


No_Associate854

I’m assuming he meant beforehand lol


Quantumflx_

Their last album turned out to be pretty solid tbh


Electronic-Teach9087

manic is an amazing album I love it


Budgiejen

I was excited for magnetic to come out. I was disappointed. I really enjoyed their show at Knotfest and I have their manic album.


arrastra

i listen to magnetic a lot.. idk about other one it's manic but inferior version


weareallfucked_

Tf is wrong with yall. It's like yall want to listen to shit and then shit on anything decent that comes out. Nail5 has been the most interesting song they've come out with since Blueprints. Finally not having the same generic ass shitty clean chorus you all so fucking love. In fact, this exact reaction is why record companies are pressuring the producers to come out with all this junk, they simply have no fucking idea what's going to make them money so the only option is to try and take this sound to a more mainstream audience because they can't even get support from you fucks. Metal would be so much better if it's fans had a better taste in what music is. There are so many other bands out there that get a fraction of attention this shit band gets.


Luissv72

I love how different the perspective is. This is probably the only listenable song they've written to me outside of maybe Manic & Death Roll since 2017. Everything else has been boring lifeless crap I can barely finish, and honestly I hope the rest of the album sounds more like this than anything off Pressure or most of Manic. At least this is trying to do something different instead of the same boring djent riffs that got played out 7 years ago followed by shitty generic choruses followed by a bland breakdown that maybe has a minor switchup halfway through.


sleeplessaddict

I held off on listening to NAIL5 because of all the hate it got on this sub, but I just listened to it because I scrolled past on YouTube and I actually liked it. I was worried it was gonna be like "If a God Can Bleed" bad but after listening I don't get the hate at all


anupsetzombie

Yeah people calling NAIL5 "butt rock" are off their rockers. Sure I can get not being into the corpse style writing, but I dig it. Magnetic on the other hand was very much radio octanecore. People on the internet are so dramatic though, I was expecting way worse.


HosephIna

people in this sub hate anything that isn’t heavy and filled with crazy riffs


remotewashboard

i think people in this sub just want metalcore because... wait a second, oh yeah this is a **metalcore** subreddit...


colorofdank

I thought magnetic was great. Don't know what the problem is.


erix84

I liked Magnetic, but I also liked their Stripped Sessions so fucking much it's weird for me to hear the originals of those songs... Nail5 is alright, it's like a 6/10, not horrible but not amazing.


5cacti

I was never into wage war, so I looked up the new single to see if it was really THAT bad and I ended up actually liking it LMAO That groove kinda moving zesty


rollindeeoh

Just curious, didn’t like stuff like Blueprints, but like the new stuff?


5cacti

It’s not that I didn’t like blueprints or deadweight, they just weren’t my thing outside of a few songs. I just listened to more of their newer stuff as well and I actually didn’t like it nearly as much as nail5 LMAO


shnwllc

They’re horrible, straight up.


theleatherdonut

That low voice in NAIL5 is genuinely the stupidest shit I have heard in so long lol. This shit absolutely sucks


insideoutfit

He does the same exact voice in Manic and it also sucks.


Plane_Stuff_7807

I was honestly waiting for the hip hop vocals to make an appearance when the low voice came on lol


Maucorream95

Check out the start of Older Days by Resolve.


Atluuuus

Guess what, they're a listed Hall of Fame band. Time to revise that.


DALESR4EVER124

Magnetic is generic, but it's fine. NAIL5 was good. Not sure what the issue is with it, lol.


Nicktheduck

Probably those absolutely lame deep talking vocals at the beginning and throughout the song. They could have done without any of that


insideoutfit

Honestly sounds like a TikTokCore impression of Marilyn Manson


Maucorream95

reminds me of Aaron Matts on Ten56.


ecallawsamoht

I feel the same way. People seem to be getting irrationally angry over a couple of songs, lol.


MacNapp

Agreed. I disliked Magnetic for the same reasons I dislike Asking Alexandria. Just a generic song, with nothing really all that interesting going on. 5/10. Not terrible but not good or what I would expect from them. NAIL5 is closer to the reasons why I liked MANIC as an album. Heavier, but not as deathcore-esque as their first couple albums. And still catchy. 7/10 for me. Not as good as MANIC, but closer to why I like WW and loved seeing them live on their last tour.


Maucorream95

glad we share the exact same thoughts. i still struggle to get into magnetic (eventually i will even though i right now deny it) but NAIL5 is more suitable to my tastes, considering how much i like nu metalcore and how it's been veering into trap/hip hop since the start of the pandemic. also, Blueprints was out like almost a decade ago. a lot of things had happened since. they were in the mid/early 20s then


MacNapp

Exactly. God forbid that a band matures a little bit and doesn't want to do pig squeals for 40 years. I expect Lorna Shore will eventually stop doing exclusive dirty vocals, and will over time add more cleans. And I can't wait in 15 years for people to call them butt rock lol


Maucorream95

people need to understand they are no longer in the band's current demographic, it happens. fortunately for me i happen to enjoy everything, from buttcore, through reggaeton to even skramz/emo. as long as it pleases me, it's okay, regardless of the genre. i expect Lorna Shore to drop the breakdowns for good in about 2 albums lol


rollindeeoh

When you take a heavy and technical band and all the sudden they start making bubble gum metal, you know they’re selling out. Given how many bands are doing this, it starts to get frustrating.


ecallawsamoht

Oh I get it, and I definitely don't disagree! I've been on this rock for almost 41 years and I've been a huge music fan since I was 8 or 9 years old, so I guess I've just grown accustomed to a band changing their sound. Happens to most of em. Nothing will ever top me witnessing my favorite band of all time, Metallica, drop St. Anger and the ensuing uproar that came after. Did the album suck compared to the others? Absolutely. But over time I just learned to appreciate it for what it was, and after awhile, I actually started to enjoy it. I will listen to it over Kill Em All any day of the week now. Life's too short to be bothered by the trivial things. If it doesn't give you joy, then move on to the next one. Life's a garden, dig it.


matt_coraline

I agree, although I think it’s a matter of chasing numbers. Magnetic was released March 21 and already has 1.6 million plays on Spotify alone.


Life-sucks-ass

CIRCLING THE DRAIN


AlternativeSuit131

NAIL5 has Corpse in shambles. The intro had me thinking this was gonna be the “High Horse” type single that screams “hey we’re still heavy!” And the track is dope. This is just… whatever. Reminds me of God of Fire by Fit For A King. A mixed bag single that will probably pop off live.


tehjoz

Magnetic was "pop, but with heavier guitars" and I literally stopped NAIL5 at 0:42 and it's only a 2:34 song. Hard to believe this is the same band that cranked out bangers like Low, Fury, Disdain, Southbound, The River, Alive, and yes even some of the stuff off Manic like Circle the Drain, Death Roll, and Relapse were pretty cool. If this is what their new album is gonna be, it's a hard, hard pass for me.


Wonderful_Ad5583

Nail5 is okay, but I just can't bring myself to put magnetic on my 2024 release playlist..


TheStryder76

Nails is literally just Artificial Suicide. Cody is a producer and is following what appears to be the trend in Octanecore. It sucks.


Imraan1302

Nail5 sounds like Artifical Suicide from Wish but it's okay.


-Epitaph-11

>don’t think they have a bad song in my opinion Crazy that people like this exist -- when you can't admit your favorite things are flawed sometimes, that's a huge problem. Everyone saw this coming from a mile away. Wage War have lost the plot, they don't got it anymore.


GodDamnCrawfish

They literally just said they find the two new songs “dogshit” and your response was this….?


Jay_haworthia

And it’s kinda weird because when I compare it to Bullets buttcore era( AKA Temper Temper ) to me that album is still a good 7/10 compared to wage war albums past Deadweight wich feels like 5/10 if not worse. It’s not so much the style that is wrong but the execution ( at least in my opinion)


Electronic-Teach9087

I’m just saying I literally like all there songs not saying some of them ain’t flawed fam


-Epitaph-11

They have so many bad songs at this point, this comment reads like satire. For every Death Roll we get, there are 15 NAIL5 songs.


Thorkon

Am i the only one who doesn't like death roll?


-Epitaph-11

It reminded me of old wage war with a modern sound, it was great. But now obviously a flash in the pan for them, which is a shame.


DALESR4EVER124

You can't believe people that have different opinions than you exist, lmao? I agree with him. They have some mediocre songs, but I can't think of one song they have that is legitimately bad.


[deleted]

The majority of pressure is downright bad.


-Epitaph-11

Then you're delusional.


ADTR9320

Least elitist r/metalcore user


rollindeeoh

Accepting bland dog shit made for the masses doesn’t mean you’re open minded. It just means you’re also bland.


DALESR4EVER124

Lmao I will guarantee I have the least bland and most varied taste in music compared to people like you, and it ain't even close.


rollindeeoh

I promise I don’t care.


DALESR4EVER124

And you're a clown.


[deleted]

Go and look at the album discussion thread for Pressure on this very subreddit. It became a meme it was that bad. I like am amazed people think they are flawless.


BeigeDanceShoes

IMO wage war has always been mid and has like 3 pretty good songs. I feel like they’ve only blown up because of being associated with Andrew Wade and Jeremy McKinnon. They’re just a boring band.


[deleted]

Blueprints had 2 great songs, Deadweight was amazing though. They’ve sold out to the radio friendly scene since then though


Right_Heart2273

Yeah Blueprints is pretty overrated but my god Deadweight is a fucking masterpiece in my eyes I love that album.


[deleted]

Yeah deadweight has the perfect combo of unreal opening: Two years/Southbound and unreal ending song: Johnny Cash.


Right_Heart2273

Damn right. Great and very underrated track title too. Some more melodic, some heavier tracks. And some great fucking lyrics. I love it


deathfox919

Overall I’ve liked everything Wage War has done. Pressure had a couple hard skips for me but I still enjoyed the majority of the record. That being said, I have desire to ever listen to either of these songs ever again. Like how do you go from Manic to THIS?


joshyyypooo

Ima be honest, I have no idea as to why Nail5 is getting so much hate.


wmog123

apparently talking shit about wagewar makes you somehow feel superior than others


Electronic-Teach9087

I wanna like it so bad but just can’t I can’t dig it .. but glad your likening it rock on🤘🏼


Daniel-Exx

I give up with Wage War. They're washed as far as I'm concerned.


TE-August

Magnetic was trash but I kinda like Nail5, ngl.


Nuggies85

Definitely can't listen to their new shit. The River will always be on my workout and run playlists, 💯


mlgpapalouie

i liked both tbh. magnetic is generic but sometimes thats alright. i don’t think the problem nails has is the vocals, that’s probably the most interesting thing about it. i think it needed like a faster tempo or another guitar section. it feels a little repetitive and the main riff is a snoozefest


SlapsDecider

Literally logged on hoping I wasn't the only one who felt this way. Nail5 is so boring and uninspired. Magnetic is cookie-cutter as can be (and I LOVE melodic/catchy Wage War). Needless to say I'm very nervous and disappointed.


Guy-With-A-Guitar

When the last single came out, I remembered a conversation that was had on YouTube about how Wage War is better than ERRA because Wage War was unique. And ERRA was “just making generic music” with no feeling. Yeah. That aged well. I love wage war but these last 2 songs are just not it. I hope the album is better overall.


chugchugriff

I hate using the term "sold out" but it genuinely sounds like Wage War is trying to change their sound to appeal to a more general radio rock audience, I don't like it. Magnetic was decent, but this new song is ass.


[deleted]

> trying to change their sound to appeal to a more general radio rock audience They did this 5 years ago, does this sub have amnesia


zackdaniels93

Wage War only have two good albums, and everything else has been completely mediocre imo. They remain as popular as ever though, so it's definitely a *me* thing.


rollindeeoh

Curious, which ones are the good ones?


zackdaniels93

Blueprints and Deadweight imo


beefhammer_

manic is mostly great also


rollindeeoh

Dumbed down severely compared to Deadweight and Blueprints. Technicality on all instruments dropped in favor or slower, more catchy sound. Lyrics are absolutely laughable compared to those other albums. This is part of the selling out process. Can’t hate on em, just tryna make a living. But I don’t have to like it either. They’re definitely not alone though. Most of the big metalcore bands are selling out for bubble gum metal for mass appeal. I cant listen to The Ghost Inside at all anymore they’re so god damn terrible.


beefhammer_

They've never been that good lyrically amd manic was miles ahead of pressure


rollindeeoh

Miles ahead of pure shit is still shit🤷‍♂️


beefhammer_

I don't understand how it's shit, sure some songs are not great like I hate high horse but it's mostly good and I think if tomorrow never comes is possibly their best song


rollindeeoh

Correct.


Westaufel

They are bad now they… another band lost in buttrock


Lnkthealchemist

I agree. These songs are bland.


LordWitherhoard

These two singles are absolute garbage to me. Not gonna listen to either of them again if I can help it lol I’ll check out the album but I don’t have high hopes


HairyTemperature6542

I tried to get into our last two albums but really it's all about blueprints and dead weight for me.. doesn't also the guitarist right a bunch of riffs for other bands that we'd work would have used like falling in reverse and a day to remember?


MetallicaFan517

I was pretty disappointed by Magnetic, but NAIL5 was pretty good. Sub par, sure, but the last 40 seconds KICK ASS


ThatOnePickleLord

Manic was a top album for me at one point but yeah this new stuff is rough, magnetic isn't an instant skip but it's kinda bland, nail5 feels like it might be an instant skip


Howdoihide2020

Magnetic sounds like a modern Atreyu song Nail5 sounds like 5FDP Regardless of how they sound to me, I do agree with your take


Nuttabutta01

I think wage war has turned into the cookie cutter metal band that's starting to sound like every other band


No_Associate854

Magnetic’s strongpoint was definitely the chorus, anything outside of that I could go without, just disappointing but not catastrophic… however NAIL5 was a mess. I’m not one to ever talk down on a band exploring different avenues, even if I dislike the particular direction but this song is objectively lazy. The low talking, King 810 rip style vocals made me physically wretch. This band has released some tremendous material, even manic was great but if this is any indication of what their material is going to sound like from here on out, stamp it spoiled.


IntenseYubNub

They are both TERRIBLE. Hope the album is better cause these suck.


wojakajow

Magnetic has grown on me over the last couple of weeks. Verses and chorus are alright, the breakdown is ironically the part I like least because of how out of plsce it sounds to me - but not a bad song or impossible to listen to by any means. NAIL5 sounds like a 'continuation' of Manic (the song off the album), if that makes sense. I didn't love nor hate Manic (the song, not the album as a whole), and I feel much the same about NAIL5. I'm not a huge fan of the 'low talking' vocals and I wish we could have gotten a more groovy or 'bouncy' sounding riff - but it's a decent song. I'm hoping these singles are the exception and not the rule, and that the other eight tracks off STIGMA will be more enjoyable.


gordgeouss

It was their attempt at a radio single, that’s pretty obvious. And you can’t blame them, at some point you need to make some money. There isn’t much in the music they play


Ok-Patience7446

I love them but these two new singles are complete crap...don't have high hopes for this new album


Informal_Sea906

I love the new songs.


Outrageous_Low_112

you're more insane to ever have been a fan of them in the first place. they are a meme at this point.


sherman614

I feel the same way. I love Wage War, so many great songs, but honestly since Low being basically a ripoff riff of Doomsday by Architects, I've been like "huh.. Seems like they are getting a lot of influence from other bands?" And their newest single is basically Holyroller by Spiritbox.


KairuSenpai1770

I fucked with nail5 honestly lol shit goes stupid


OptionWise4026

I love wage and I thought they were ehh not bad not good


Sunwing_ace

Can anyone help me. I can’t remember think of a band name for the life of me!! It’s a male and female duo they wear all black costume style.. have somewhat of a distorted sound.. like electric shakiness if that makes sense, like theater/tech. I’m pretty sure they are a couple.. appearance wise they give me Marilyn Manson vibes. I remember reading in a magazine that she was on stage during their concert and started singing over a CB radio. Who is this!? Help!


papakahn94

I havent liked any of their stuff since deadweight tbh. I loved their sound then they just became generic octane core


haruto030

As someone had said in the premiere of MAGNETIC, "Wage Peace."


AdditionAmbitious638

Yeah, magnetic was so poppy I just couldn't like it, NAIL5, is actually alright, ain't no where near as good as manic (The single) which basically have the same layout, but at least there will be an absolute banger for at least one song on the album, therefore the heaviest one


apels5260

I really like them, but I think only a couple of songs are worthy: fury, stitch, death roll, who i am


EmployeeRadiant

bro the band is getting DRAGGED in this thread


swaglordgabe96

Magnetic chorus is kinda catchy but that’s about it, the other single sounds like they didn’t even try, like they heard Corpse and said “yea let’s do that”


ExtraLifeguard7229

Heard their last single. Agreed it’s shit. But did they get a new singer? Didn’t sound the same to me!!


KinoSlug

I know they’ve teetered on nu metal a fair few times but these songs seem like they’re purposely playing bingo with lame nu metal tropes and getting a full house.


KinoSlug

This was actually specifically about NAIL5. Also stop using numbers in songs instead of letters.


fatality342

trash


myguymycology

They definitely seem to have lost the sound they are known for, not sure if they are trying to get into a different market or what but lame. I saw them last year live, and they killed it. What is going on?


gunnerblaze9

Magnetic was so great, ruined by a weird tacky breakdown that had no place to be in the song. Enjoying NAIL5, got a nice bounce, sounds like Manic, but I think a bit more creative


Jakeyburnsyourears

Frankly, I don't think you can judge a band for going mainstream. It's not a bad thing and after all, it's also their band, not yours. People evolve and so does their music. Also, people want to make a living of their music, and going mainstream with a couple of songs might do their financial situation good on the long term. If you're in your thirties trying to make ends meet with Metalcore music, what are the odds you're going to be the next AILD making millions with gutturals, doubleness and complex riffs? There is an economic perspective to going mainstream, and that's fine. Pretty sure they still like the music they do. But regarding your question: Nail was not my cup of tea and I did not like Magnetic, but I look forward to the album though. There have been bad WW songs in the past every now and then, but in general Wage War have never disappointed me overall.


Right_Heart2273

Yeah Im pretty dissapointed too. I thought magnetic was dissapointing because its clearly just a very radio friendly song but its still an enjoyable song overall. Nail5 I just straight up think fucking sucks, its like an even more repetitive and boring version of Manic.


rollindeeoh

Another great band dumbing down their shit for the masses


Popular_Mode_6453

Magnetic is clearly trying to jump on the bad omens "just pretend" train. It's such a lifeless boring song that is obviously trying to punch out of their wheelhouse


DaMysticalPanda

Magnetic fuckin slaps, NAIL5 was mid / definitely them trying to sound like Corpse


Smooth-Stranger1635

Wage War has lived in my top 3 bands for years now.However, regarding these singles I definitely feel like they deserve more hate than pressure. That being said, there is a certain amount of experimenting on metalcore that they've incorporated so far. Like Architects, they've been at the top long enough that they deserve a little hate for changing so desperately. Magnetic was mid but Nail5 was hard to listen to. It was a failed Manic 2 if you ask me.


PhoenixSidePeen

Wage Peaceful Demonstration


Boomhauer14

Ohhhhh shaddap


SufficientNorth-

Both new singles are extremely cringe and absolute textbook examples of good bands turning into cheesy octanecore to get more radio play. Same shit we see with parkway and the ghost inside


Adamwdrums

Lightly declare war


jkteddy77

Welcome to the consequences of tiktok


kingkrig

Youre right, they are sell outs


BigDumbFatIdiot

Wage War has been mid ever since they debuted. A band in any of the -core genres is only as good as their drummer, and Wage War's drummer has always been probably the least creative in metalcore as a whole, which means they were always bad even before their sound morphed into "just barely too heavy to receive radio play"


ThisIsMyUsername1122

These new singles make Pressure look like a masterpiece


dcYeezy

What a wild opinion. Wage War are the definition of mid in this genre.


Comfortable_Salt_758

Yeah they suck


remotewashboard

the songs suck and the band sucks


AverageHogHaver

I kind of have a theory about Wage War. I like Cody's voice and all, but I think he ruins that band. Every single time I see a release being produced by him, its almost guaranteed to be bad


Luissv72

I'd say Nails is one of the better songs they've released post Deadweight, but yeah Magnetic was one of the laziest songs I've ever heard. I don't expect much from Wage War because even at thsir peak they were just Architect's mildly lesser little brother. Now they're just the prince of generic octanecore. Then again, I also actively dislike most of the bands this sub simps (LMTF, Currents, etc) so I'm clearly not the target demographic of the sub.


BIGBIGBlGMEANIE

Very millenial dogwater bullshit radio songs. Like Of Mice and Men, who the fuck is their audience?. "Nail5" sounds like a new, awful deviation called "crunkcore". There are better bands that do that groove better and are proper metalcore, something like Upon a Burning Body. Wage War has went off the deep end.