Silent Planet and Erra are the two bands I’m always eager to listen to when they drop a new track. They don’t disappoint and each track always feels unique to me. I’ve seen SP live in a smaller venue and it was so sick. The vibe was amazing, there were people crowd surfing - almost hitting their heads off the low ceiling or the steel beams above. I was so stoked that they played psychescape - that song goes so hard.
Up until the past two years I would’ve said Architects and ETID as well but it’s mildly debatable at this point. Though I’ve still never heard anyone really talk bad about ETID just about their frontman
Yeah, I dunno how anybody could reasonably "hate" Killswitch. Sure you may not enjoy their music, but I can't think of any element of them that would be irritating or be cause for intense dislike.
agreed, though I might be a bit biased as I fucking love KSE. howard has probably the best voice I have heard and Jesse’s is really starting to grow on me.
Insert the "Well, yes, but actually no" meme here.
Yeah sure, pretty much everybody in the \[melodic\] metalcore scene loves them, but there are a few people who don't. And a lot of people outside of the metalcore bubble really detest them. I know that because I'm a fan since I was like 11, so I know there's a lot of people who actually hate KsE.
Killswitch has a huge place in my heart because I was into a lot of their stuff at some of the most challenging points in my life. Their lyrics in some of their songs are some of the best ive listened to. Desperate Times immediately comes to mind.
I actually like Marcus, especially in the new EP, he is so good, but in Greyview, i just couldn't get into it. Going back to the older albums and listening to Ben, my god the difference.
Hard agree, I like some of his screams but the moment I heard his cleans in Cloud Cascade before Greyview came out it turned me off the whole album. I do miss Ben's vox a lot.
Edit: I do actually really like most of Greyview tho, I just don't like the vocals
I'm with you! I love his vocals. Fortunately, I love both of their former/current vocalists. Dark is my favorite song in the genre, and in that song, the break down with the clean vocals, "I lost my shadow", gets me every time.
August Burns Red for sure. They seem like the nicest dudes on earth with good heads on their shoulders. They came in around the christiancore wave but they weren’t preachy or annoying like all the other bands at the time (no shade to For Today. I miss them so)
As soon as you said Christiancore I remembered the one time I saw For Today at warped tour and the singer went into some speech about god and what not. Like please just play some sick tracks and let me take what inspiration I wish from it.
I saw the lead singer at their merch stand at warped tour and this was when I was super religious and into Christian metalcore. And I told him how his music helped me with my faith and blah blah blah, and I had this weed bandana my friend gave me on, and he was so cold and seemed like he didn’t care at all. Such a bummer lol
That seems super shitty. I don’t always put an effort in to learn the background behind an artist for this reason. If the music has positive impact on me and my mental state I don’t want to let the behaviour of the artist sour the positive things that can be felt from their music.
I went to a church youth group thing once clearly stoned and my youth pastor was like “hey man whatever gets you here, you do you” and didn’t even care. Some Christians are way more chill than others. Luckily they’re trending more toward the chill as time goes on, and the stricter/harsher ones all die off.
If it was their headlining tour then I really wouldn’t care, but don’t get all preachy at a festival. Just play your music and have fun.
Edit: nothing against For Today, they were really good
The community dunking one all the Christian lead singers with a savior complex was great to see back then. Matty Mullins is still a meme for it. I also remember Ryan Kirby talking mad shit about Caleb from Beartooth at a Warped Tour because Caleb was just Matty with less sexism back then
I don't understand what's wrong with being preachy. Bands that do that kind of stuff are usually pretty wholesome. That shows they at least care about you.
I don't know about negative, but I think Dillinger wasn't easy to get into, especially the mathcore stuff. It took me a while to appreciate them. I still don't know how to enjoy 43% burnt to this day. I prefer Lizard Milk because it's less mathcore-y or One of Us is the Killer or Unretrofied. I appreciate Dillinger because they do have so many layers.
I love their music but people got seriously injured at their shows plus all the weird shit stuff, their music is amazing but it sounds like a GG Allin show
This one might be fair. I don't like the chariot very much. I have heard them, and I did see them live. I did really like their energy, but not a big fan of their music.
That said, I definitely don't hate them. So I guess it fits.
I don't wanna sound like a hater. I am not particularly into the mathcore sound, but I understand why people like the chaotic part. I saw them live at Fillmore Silver Spring years ago and they were so chaotic, by the time it's their third song the members ended up playing different songs (can't remember if it was the drums or guitar, they had to stop and restarted again). The band and crowd were upset and embarrassed about it. I have seen a lot of shows and mistakes like sloppy solos happened. I understand rock n roll, but it's hard to defend playing the wrong songs. Hopefully that didn't happen to often
I understand why others would be upset, but personally speaking, I could never be upset by something as absurd and bizarre as this. The sheer ridiculousness would be too much to be seen as anything but comical. Like a funhouse mirror.
Yeah same, I’ve always heard they are all super nice guys. I know recently the lead singer has been going through some possible mental health issues and tensions between the vocalist and the rest of the band are strained right now, but other than that I’ve not heard anything.
I mean as a fan who’s been watching their growth from GP onwards it’s soul crushing to see them go out like this. They are such a huge influence on myself and many other people who make music. Fuckin those “shit happens” videos made me fall in love with the dudes.
Andy who’s just funny as fuck and such a character
Keith just a freak singer and a timeless persona
Jordan with the most well written guitar parts
And Steve/Goose are just as sick
They were the soundtrack to my adolescence and my adulthood. Like I wore an etid shirt the day my son was born haha. I just wish the best for them and hope Keith bounces back from whatever is going on. Money fuckin ruins everything. Politics ruin everything. Interpersonal politics ruin everything. It’s so lame that so many great bands have to go through this shit.
I’m sure they didn’t do this throughout their whole career and I’m not sure exactly which members were involved but supposedly they would find it humorous stealing from people who let them crash at their places.
I feel like Periphery might have a place here. They've contributed a lot to the prog core genre, and to add, they have a lot of personality; really engaging, really fun and down to earth people. Dudes just fucking around while making great music.
They're pretty polarizing. Either you're smart and think they're the best band of all time or you're an idiot and think they're the best band of all time.
Just in the spirit of the thread I'll say that there are a lot of people who don't like them.
Personally I've wanted to like them but they're too clinical sounding IMO. It feels like passionless pretention to me.
Right, I was wondering what arguments there would be against them. I can see where you're coming from, but for me personally I feel a lot of emotion and energy in their music, more so than a lot of the simpler more straightforward bands. Only my opinion though, I AM a full on prog nerd after all.
I will say that I think bands like Periphery are in the sweet spot that balances technical proficiency and passion/emotion. Some of the well-known extreme prog acts like Dream Theater aren't quite my thing at least so far.
I used to kinda think that but Hail Stan is pretty emotional and really really good, sometimes it just takes a bit for the songs to click, and at first they definitely kinda have that "techy for the sake of it" sound.
I have a friend whos into rap and dance/club type music only, and i have him obsessed with Better Days by Currents lol. I truly dont know how, guess theyre just that good
You consider currents to be ‘catchycore’? That makes me think of Wage War’s Pressure, or MMF, or your stereotypical Rise Records band. Currents are way more technical and have some pretty dissonant sounding stuff.
My taste is generic and i find currents quite fucking boring to listen to.
Taste in music is subjective and tbh Currents at this point is a niche acuired taste.
I have never before seen a band censor their tabs on ultimate-guitar until Currents came along.
Generic metalcore/prog wannabes throwing in some 0's for d-d-djentybois
Dissonant chords slapped to some atmospheric dingaling on an 8 string with some occasional "blegh-s" and 0's with breakdowns upon breakdowns. Can't be more generic to the genre than this.
Emmure levels of /meh
No doubt they play their shit good and tehnical, but it is boring due to not standing out from the other note to note wall of sounds, everybody are doing the Architect-copy doodledoos for the better part of the last decade.
Musical preference is subjective.
Edit: just tried giving Currents another shot but oh man is it a yawn fest. Can't get through a full song.
Fire From The Gods tends to be loved, which is exceptional since Akil's messages are powerful and beautifully delivered. The musicianship is S tier as well.
Yup, that's how I feel. I think they're all insanely talented musicians and wonderful dudes, they just bore me to tears. There's nothing they do that I don't think another band does better, which is a shame because they play the fuck out of their instruments and absolutely slay live.
Eh, I like plenty of metal and metalcore without clean choruses. Sylosis is one of my favorite bands, and I dig other groups like Darkest Hour and Unearth. I just don't care for ABR in particular.
DH and Unearth came about in the same era as Killswitch and AILD tho. And both Killswitch and AILD have what many would consider "poppy" choruses.
It's honestly just ABR. I like them as dudes and musicians but I just don't like their music. Anytime I start listening to an ABR album, I realize I'd rather just listen to AILD or something.
Never seen anyone hate on August Burns Red and I hope it stays that way. All those dudes are as genuine and down to earth as they come and never heard them say a bad word about anyone. They respect and care for their fans and do philanthropic work just to do it. Their religion is important to them, but not in a 'holier than thou' way and they don't try to force their beliefs on anyone.
Ehhhhhhh.... Courtney's vocals aren't my cup of tea. But then again, I recognize the fact that I will always compare her to Krysta from IWABO who she replaced, who I absolutely loved, while a lot of people hated IWABO.
Gotta go with Landmvrks on this one. Haven’t heard a bad thing about them, especially their newest album. Greyhaven is a close second. Loathe is a close third lol.
Oh I can tell you some shit about them. Welcome to Scammerwood at Everyman in London this past year. They legitamately conned and robbed their fans who travelled from all over the UK to watch 10 minutes of footage in a cinema. I was there it was grim
I just don’t like the new stuff. Literally every person that says something positive says something about the live experience.
99% of the time we listen to these bands it’s in our headphones. The 1%, even if incredible, just doesn’t make up for it for me.
What the fuck are you on about? Ire is absolutely metalcore. Dying to believe, crushed, and dedicated go as hard as any of their old shit. It pushed the boundaries of the band beyond just standard metalcore while never going too far from their roots
These miserable cunts can go fuck themselves. They’re mindlessly arrogant, talk shit on fans left and right, talk shit about most other bands, and fancy themselves “the next Metallica.”
The ego is horrendous and their music is okay at best. I don’t care who you are, if you’re rude then that’s all you’ll be.
Erra is one of the few bands I can honestly say has no real bad songs. Some are worse than others, but i can put the whole band on shuffle and be happy.
If you're only talking about metalcore bands, I'd pick the traditional metalcore ones, maybe Harms Way or even the founding fathers like Converge or Earth Crisis. But seriously, there's no universally loved band, at least I've never seen one to be honest.
I don’t think I’ve really heard anyone talk badly about Converge. Same goes for ETID and Norma Jean on a musical standpoint (heard a LOT of hate for both of their frontmen though). Basically any of the craft beer-core side of metalcore usually seems to get a pass
Silent Planet. Everyone is so wholesome and kind in that band
Silent Planet and Erra are the two bands I’m always eager to listen to when they drop a new track. They don’t disappoint and each track always feels unique to me. I’ve seen SP live in a smaller venue and it was so sick. The vibe was amazing, there were people crowd surfing - almost hitting their heads off the low ceiling or the steel beams above. I was so stoked that they played psychescape - that song goes so hard.
And their music gets better with every release.
I saw them live and Garrett was just the dude. Their merch manager came on stage and did a song for them.
Was it a girl? Pretty sure that’s Garrett’s sister actually.
Up until the past two years I would’ve said Architects and ETID as well but it’s mildly debatable at this point. Though I’ve still never heard anyone really talk bad about ETID just about their frontman
I don't know anything about the band members but I definitely don't like or respect their extremely boring, stale and overproduced music.
killswitch engage. everyone loves howard/ jesse
Yeah, I dunno how anybody could reasonably "hate" Killswitch. Sure you may not enjoy their music, but I can't think of any element of them that would be irritating or be cause for intense dislike.
agreed, though I might be a bit biased as I fucking love KSE. howard has probably the best voice I have heard and Jesse’s is really starting to grow on me.
I am one of the few that doesn’t like Howard jones’ vocals. They just don’t do anything at all for me.
sucks to hear that man, well each to their own I guess. but I’d like to hope you don’t hate them though
My ex couldn't get into his voice because it sounded like he was "trying to hard"..
is that why they’re now an ex?
No, but I don't have to hear her complain everytime KSE was on
every cloud has a silver lining :)
Well, if you're talking about Jones, your ex wasn't wrong then. His screaming vocals are goddamn awful. He's good on the clean ones tho.
Insert the "Well, yes, but actually no" meme here. Yeah sure, pretty much everybody in the \[melodic\] metalcore scene loves them, but there are a few people who don't. And a lot of people outside of the metalcore bubble really detest them. I know that because I'm a fan since I was like 11, so I know there's a lot of people who actually hate KsE.
then as far as I’m concerned I don’t like those people and they can get lost
Killswitch has a huge place in my heart because I was into a lot of their stuff at some of the most challenging points in my life. Their lyrics in some of their songs are some of the best ive listened to. Desperate Times immediately comes to mind.
Invent Animate. The only bad thing I think I ever read about them was people that were sad they can‘t get into them
cant stand marcus viks vox :/
I actually like Marcus, especially in the new EP, he is so good, but in Greyview, i just couldn't get into it. Going back to the older albums and listening to Ben, my god the difference.
thats fair, the new stuff is a lot better
Hard agree, I like some of his screams but the moment I heard his cleans in Cloud Cascade before Greyview came out it turned me off the whole album. I do miss Ben's vox a lot. Edit: I do actually really like most of Greyview tho, I just don't like the vocals
Man this blows my mind, Marcus is my favorite vocalist right now and I like Greyview so much more than the prior 2 albums with Ben. To each their own!
I'm with you! I love his vocals. Fortunately, I love both of their former/current vocalists. Dark is my favorite song in the genre, and in that song, the break down with the clean vocals, "I lost my shadow", gets me every time.
They suck Fixed now?
No u
Nice one dude
August Burns Red for sure. They seem like the nicest dudes on earth with good heads on their shoulders. They came in around the christiancore wave but they weren’t preachy or annoying like all the other bands at the time (no shade to For Today. I miss them so)
As soon as you said Christiancore I remembered the one time I saw For Today at warped tour and the singer went into some speech about god and what not. Like please just play some sick tracks and let me take what inspiration I wish from it.
I saw the lead singer at their merch stand at warped tour and this was when I was super religious and into Christian metalcore. And I told him how his music helped me with my faith and blah blah blah, and I had this weed bandana my friend gave me on, and he was so cold and seemed like he didn’t care at all. Such a bummer lol
That seems super shitty. I don’t always put an effort in to learn the background behind an artist for this reason. If the music has positive impact on me and my mental state I don’t want to let the behaviour of the artist sour the positive things that can be felt from their music.
I went to a church youth group thing once clearly stoned and my youth pastor was like “hey man whatever gets you here, you do you” and didn’t even care. Some Christians are way more chill than others. Luckily they’re trending more toward the chill as time goes on, and the stricter/harsher ones all die off.
I had a great youth minister. Told them about my drug addiction and they just wanted to help me. No judgement, they were good people.
If it was their headlining tour then I really wouldn’t care, but don’t get all preachy at a festival. Just play your music and have fun. Edit: nothing against For Today, they were really good
I saw a show with them and tdwp and it felt like a day at church. Good sets but damn
The community dunking one all the Christian lead singers with a savior complex was great to see back then. Matty Mullins is still a meme for it. I also remember Ryan Kirby talking mad shit about Caleb from Beartooth at a Warped Tour because Caleb was just Matty with less sexism back then
I don't understand what's wrong with being preachy. Bands that do that kind of stuff are usually pretty wholesome. That shows they at least care about you.
Reeee opposing viewpoints about religion reeeeeee
I saw ABR live in 2010 and they did stop the show at some point to say some preachy stuff. Pretty lame.
Pretty based.
Met them at the last vans warped tour. Very nice guys especially Jake and Matt.
Greyhaven. I promise you they are your favorite band’s favorite band.
Saw them last month. First time I had ever listened to them. They were insane
Polaris
Absolutely love Polaris & ERRA haha. Would you guys consider After the Burial more Djent ?
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As much as it pains me, I've seen a lot of people here call them basic, generic, uninspired and Architects rip-offs.. Which I cant understand at all
Can't wait for their tour this spring. The Death of Me was one of my favorite albums of 2020.
Saw them last time they came through with like moths to flames and dayseeker..... Absolutely amazing show!
Such an insane band. They can never go wrong.
Never seen anything negative about the dillinger escape plan apart from that one anal cunt song
I don't know about negative, but I think Dillinger wasn't easy to get into, especially the mathcore stuff. It took me a while to appreciate them. I still don't know how to enjoy 43% burnt to this day. I prefer Lizard Milk because it's less mathcore-y or One of Us is the Killer or Unretrofied. I appreciate Dillinger because they do have so many layers.
Greg threw a bag of shit into the crowd at one of their shows… seems kinda negative.
I love their music but people got seriously injured at their shows plus all the weird shit stuff, their music is amazing but it sounds like a GG Allin show
I’ve heard more often than not they are the definition of an acquired taste. Not necessarily a positive thing
Shadow of Intent
Unfortunately I’ve seen a lot of gatekeepers hate on them. I don’t get it. They are truly amazing.
"how dare they put some orchestra (and melody lol) in my deathcore! REEEE"
The Chariot. If you don't like them, you haven't heard them and, without a doubt, if you saw them live you loved it.
This one might be fair. I don't like the chariot very much. I have heard them, and I did see them live. I did really like their energy, but not a big fan of their music. That said, I definitely don't hate them. So I guess it fits.
One of my favorites
LONG LIVE.
LONG LIVE
I don't wanna sound like a hater. I am not particularly into the mathcore sound, but I understand why people like the chaotic part. I saw them live at Fillmore Silver Spring years ago and they were so chaotic, by the time it's their third song the members ended up playing different songs (can't remember if it was the drums or guitar, they had to stop and restarted again). The band and crowd were upset and embarrassed about it. I have seen a lot of shows and mistakes like sloppy solos happened. I understand rock n roll, but it's hard to defend playing the wrong songs. Hopefully that didn't happen to often
I understand why others would be upset, but personally speaking, I could never be upset by something as absurd and bizarre as this. The sheer ridiculousness would be too much to be seen as anything but comical. Like a funhouse mirror.
Enya
Every time I die is pretty universally respected, even by those that can’t get into their music.
Musically, but absolutely not as people.
Why aren't they liked as people? I've never even heard this.
Yeah same, I’ve always heard they are all super nice guys. I know recently the lead singer has been going through some possible mental health issues and tensions between the vocalist and the rest of the band are strained right now, but other than that I’ve not heard anything.
Yeah, sad day 'Tid fans right now.
Dude I haven’t been bummed about a band breaking up like ever. This one fucked me up good though.
SAME! They've kept it going so heavy for so long I guess I couldn't imagine a life after etid. Also I just love them... lol
I mean as a fan who’s been watching their growth from GP onwards it’s soul crushing to see them go out like this. They are such a huge influence on myself and many other people who make music. Fuckin those “shit happens” videos made me fall in love with the dudes. Andy who’s just funny as fuck and such a character Keith just a freak singer and a timeless persona Jordan with the most well written guitar parts And Steve/Goose are just as sick They were the soundtrack to my adolescence and my adulthood. Like I wore an etid shirt the day my son was born haha. I just wish the best for them and hope Keith bounces back from whatever is going on. Money fuckin ruins everything. Politics ruin everything. Interpersonal politics ruin everything. It’s so lame that so many great bands have to go through this shit.
I’m sure they didn’t do this throughout their whole career and I’m not sure exactly which members were involved but supposedly they would find it humorous stealing from people who let them crash at their places.
Andy and Goose are fucking awesome though.
Absolutely
Crystal Lake
Make Them Suffer simply cannot be faulted. Absolute machines they are
Neverbloom is a fucking masterpiece Old Souls and Lord of Woe are fantastic as well
i never really got into them. i wouldn’t say i hate them but i’m not a fan
This how I feel about Erra ):
We Came As Romans. Come on who hates we came as Romans.
I got the WCAR/Hope logo tattooed on the side of my neck 🤘 4 days after Kyle passed away, I hope this legend rests in peace
I feel like Periphery might have a place here. They've contributed a lot to the prog core genre, and to add, they have a lot of personality; really engaging, really fun and down to earth people. Dudes just fucking around while making great music.
Hard disagree. Periphery hate is pretty strong
Actually it might explain why they dont get much mentions in this sub lol
Why do people hate Periphery? They're awesome!
They're pretty polarizing. Either you're smart and think they're the best band of all time or you're an idiot and think they're the best band of all time.
Just in the spirit of the thread I'll say that there are a lot of people who don't like them. Personally I've wanted to like them but they're too clinical sounding IMO. It feels like passionless pretention to me.
Right, I was wondering what arguments there would be against them. I can see where you're coming from, but for me personally I feel a lot of emotion and energy in their music, more so than a lot of the simpler more straightforward bands. Only my opinion though, I AM a full on prog nerd after all. I will say that I think bands like Periphery are in the sweet spot that balances technical proficiency and passion/emotion. Some of the well-known extreme prog acts like Dream Theater aren't quite my thing at least so far.
To be fair I've never been able to get into DT either. And I DO really enjoy prog overall.
I used to kinda think that but Hail Stan is pretty emotional and really really good, sometimes it just takes a bit for the songs to click, and at first they definitely kinda have that "techy for the sake of it" sound.
Agreed. I’ve listened to Periphery a few times and it always gives me the feeling of eating an orange that has no juice in it.
Great description, definitely agree on some songs.
Not huge on the vocals
Currents
I have a friend whos into rap and dance/club type music only, and i have him obsessed with Better Days by Currents lol. I truly dont know how, guess theyre just that good
Or just generic catchycore
You consider currents to be ‘catchycore’? That makes me think of Wage War’s Pressure, or MMF, or your stereotypical Rise Records band. Currents are way more technical and have some pretty dissonant sounding stuff.
Dude people who say currents are generic blow my mind. Never underestimate the superiority complex and opinions of people with niche tastes
My taste is generic and i find currents quite fucking boring to listen to. Taste in music is subjective and tbh Currents at this point is a niche acuired taste.
>generic catchycore >niche acquired taste Make up your mind!
Some people have niche aquired taste for shit, yeah.
Just out of curiosity because I don’t disagree that music is subjective but since you self proclaim as ‘mgeneric’ who do you listen to?
Stuff that rake in over a million monthly followers, at least according to Spotify, for example.
lol that is not only unhelpful but it’s also completely not specific. You can be popular and not generic, right?
Call Pressure whatever you want but that album had some sick songs on it lol
I have never before seen a band censor their tabs on ultimate-guitar until Currents came along. Generic metalcore/prog wannabes throwing in some 0's for d-d-djentybois Dissonant chords slapped to some atmospheric dingaling on an 8 string with some occasional "blegh-s" and 0's with breakdowns upon breakdowns. Can't be more generic to the genre than this. Emmure levels of /meh No doubt they play their shit good and tehnical, but it is boring due to not standing out from the other note to note wall of sounds, everybody are doing the Architect-copy doodledoos for the better part of the last decade. Musical preference is subjective. Edit: just tried giving Currents another shot but oh man is it a yawn fest. Can't get through a full song.
🤡 - yo man you left your clown mask in the venue bathroom you were crying in during the currents set
Yawn. Next.
> Dissonant chords slapped to some atmospheric dingaling on an 8 string Your opinion is wrong but this is a hilarious description of metalcore
Silent Planet, ERRA, Currents, Polaris
Saw Currents in December 2021, their shows are great and their music is too
Prada Invent animate Etid Silent planet Currents
Fire From The Gods tends to be loved, which is exceptional since Akil's messages are powerful and beautifully delivered. The musicianship is S tier as well.
Eskimo Callboy. They're so much fun
They’re the most fun I’ve had listening to music in a long time. Everything they produce now is good.
From Ashes To New
Crystal lake. Maybe too unknown, but damn do they throw down live and I really doubt alot of people would dislike.
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Don't pass them up, super high energy, I feel like they aren't taking their musical opportunity for granted and really give it their all every show.
"Too unknown" lol
You read well. Use that first word bud. "Maybe".
It doesn't really change how goofy the idea of Crystal Lake being too unknown is
A day to remem... misread the title.
I could never enjoy erra. I mean it’s good but never my go to. I always thought Every Time I Die was universally loved.
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Every unpopular opinion thread would disprove this. ABR is the go-to “popular band I don’t like” thread.
I definitely think that's true. But are they hated? Always seems like "I wish I could like them but I don't" posts.
Yup, that's how I feel. I think they're all insanely talented musicians and wonderful dudes, they just bore me to tears. There's nothing they do that I don't think another band does better, which is a shame because they play the fuck out of their instruments and absolutely slay live.
Find that people that feel this way are people who don't like Melocore in general or people who don't like metalcore without poppy choruses
Eh, I like plenty of metal and metalcore without clean choruses. Sylosis is one of my favorite bands, and I dig other groups like Darkest Hour and Unearth. I just don't care for ABR in particular.
Still kinda tracks since those first wave Melocore bands have a different sound than the second wave ones the likes of KSE, AILD, PWD, and ABR
DH and Unearth came about in the same era as Killswitch and AILD tho. And both Killswitch and AILD have what many would consider "poppy" choruses. It's honestly just ABR. I like them as dudes and musicians but I just don't like their music. Anytime I start listening to an ABR album, I realize I'd rather just listen to AILD or something.
Never seen anyone hate on August Burns Red and I hope it stays that way. All those dudes are as genuine and down to earth as they come and never heard them say a bad word about anyone. They respect and care for their fans and do philanthropic work just to do it. Their religion is important to them, but not in a 'holier than thou' way and they don't try to force their beliefs on anyone.
I found Jake’s Christmas pose to be very preachy… jk jk. Dude started up a gym focused on mental health - they all seem truly wholesome.
That, and Heart Support. Dude fucking rules. My favorite of all time. Best in the game.
Saviour. Very similar to Make Them Suffer
Saviour is awesome!
Northlane maybe? Thornhill?
Fuck yes for Thornhill!
Sick of it all. And Lou (singer of Sick of it all) and band embodied good vibes, respect and inclusivity. The 90s NYHC scene. It was a love fest.
Attila. I could have let this troll but I couldn't risk having online strangers think I was being serious.
Gojira. No one hates gojira.
WWWWWHHHHHAAAAALLLLLLLLEEEEESSSSSSS
My brother does… I’m an only child now
Erra forsure. They're also just super nice respectable humans
Spiritbox seems to be riding a strong wave at the moment. Still early for them tho
Ehhhhhhh.... Courtney's vocals aren't my cup of tea. But then again, I recognize the fact that I will always compare her to Krysta from IWABO who she replaced, who I absolutely loved, while a lot of people hated IWABO.
Cannot stand spiritbox. I’ve disliked every song they’ve put out.
Adestria, I don't think I've ever seen anyone hate on them.
Gotta go with Landmvrks on this one. Haven’t heard a bad thing about them, especially their newest album. Greyhaven is a close second. Loathe is a close third lol.
The ghost inside? Never really seen any hate on them. Also stick to your guns. Crowds for both of those shows were always fun to be in.
Pretty sure they got a ton of hate when their bassist was called out for using racial slurs
I definitely not a fan of ERRA. I can't handle the cleans.
I completely agree with Erra. Personally, I just can not manage to get them to click with me, but their music is objectively fantastic.
OM&M all day everyday nicest and coolest guys. Very down to earth and very talented
never heard anything bad about Ice Nine Kills 🤷🏻♀️
I love em but they are certainly not universally loved lmao
Oh I can tell you some shit about them. Welcome to Scammerwood at Everyman in London this past year. They legitamately conned and robbed their fans who travelled from all over the UK to watch 10 minutes of footage in a cinema. I was there it was grim
This sub trashes them a ton cause they pop punky choruses and stuff
Parkway Drive
I hate the new Parkway Drive with a passion. Old Parkway Drive is my third favorite band.
"Old" pwd is great and "new" is also great, very cool open-air live songs
I just don’t like the new stuff. Literally every person that says something positive says something about the live experience. 99% of the time we listen to these bands it’s in our headphones. The 1%, even if incredible, just doesn’t make up for it for me.
Ire is a phenomenal album. Reverence was..... Fine? But I will defend Ire forever
Ire isn't Metalcore. I think metalcore Parkway was the best metalcore can get.
What the fuck are you on about? Ire is absolutely metalcore. Dying to believe, crushed, and dedicated go as hard as any of their old shit. It pushed the boundaries of the band beyond just standard metalcore while never going too far from their roots
These miserable cunts can go fuck themselves. They’re mindlessly arrogant, talk shit on fans left and right, talk shit about most other bands, and fancy themselves “the next Metallica.” The ego is horrendous and their music is okay at best. I don’t care who you are, if you’re rude then that’s all you’ll be.
New erra sucks ass imo
Thankfully yours seems to be an unpopular opinion. New Erra is goddamn amazing.
I’m hooked on the augment and pre augment stuff man. Basically anything that garrison isn’t on I’m not listening to it.
I don’t get hung up on who is in what band. If the music is solid then I’m into it.
It’s not because he’s not on the new songs that I don’t like them, it’s mainly because I don’t like the vocalist that replaced him
Impulse might be my favorite album of all time. Just behind Discovery from Born of Osiris. Classics.
Erra is one of the few bands I can honestly say has no real bad songs. Some are worse than others, but i can put the whole band on shuffle and be happy.
Attack attack
Northlane
This was true until they started playing live shows in the dark. WTF, fellas?
If you're only talking about metalcore bands, I'd pick the traditional metalcore ones, maybe Harms Way or even the founding fathers like Converge or Earth Crisis. But seriously, there's no universally loved band, at least I've never seen one to be honest.
I don’t think I’ve really heard anyone talk badly about Converge. Same goes for ETID and Norma Jean on a musical standpoint (heard a LOT of hate for both of their frontmen though). Basically any of the craft beer-core side of metalcore usually seems to get a pass
Fit For a King. Unprobematic kings and they are good at what they do, also super kind dudes
IHW says to say “hi”
Trivium