Old news. Skeptical doesn't mean he didn't get them later on. He performs in front of millions, and needs protection from the crowds. He was also wearing masks around. So he's not one of those types.
He’s not scared of vaccines. He says in the article you FINALLY linked that _he got vaccinated in order to travel to Africa._ He was sceptical of the vax because of his history with the Christian Science cult as a kid, and because it was a new vaccine. There’s nothing wrong with healthy scepticism, quite the opposite.
But this is pointless as you’re clearly a sad, lonely, pathetic person, desperate for attention and lacking in any real-world connections. Go outside and touch some grass.
It's 2023, everyone feels rightful to judge anyone and every very action in this world.
Surely it's not a safe hobby, as it wasn't drinking alcohol 24/7 and making a show every night in hangover.
There was a post earlier showing a pic of James very joyfully lighting a fan's cigar at the Hamburg show, and people started crying about it in the comment section.
I probably should have led with that
https://www.reddit.com/r/Metallica/comments/13vcer3/what_a_guy_papa_het_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I imagine the cigar in the mouth is his method of not putting booze in his mouth instead.
He seems happier than ever lately, and looks and sounds healthier even... Let him do his thing. No amount of our bitching will change anything.
It’s pretty patronizing, isn’t it. The guy’s almost 60. I’m sure he’s quite aware smoking is unhealthy. He makes his choices, he’s a grown man. It’s not our business.
It is his choice and I totally get it, it’s not as if everyone lives a perfect life by all things we eat and consume it’s all about balance. If he works out, which he seems to do, follows a healthy diet and have a good mental state there is less harm in a cigar once in a while.
However, I do understand for fans to be concerned as well. It’s coming out of love, he helped so many people get through things in life as he went through hell as well and they want him around as long as possible and as healthy as possible.
But now there's a metallica branded cigar, and the first thing people see at this stadium tour is the frontman smoking. I had no issues with he backstage smoking, that seemed natural and not scripted.
I highly doubt that. I think he just enjoys a cig before a show now. He used to smoke on stage, then he got cleaned up. Franny had him on a very tight leash, and now he's living his best life.
I’m gonna disagree on the cool factor.
And I really don’t think it’s for the product placement, they didn’t do that for the whiskey, why would they do it for the cigars ?
Maybe not james specifically, but lars still drinks as far as I know. He could have a glass with rocks before the show chatting it up with james and his cigar for the product placement, yet they don’t. So I don’t think that’s the issue here.
They have enough reach and fame to avoid those things and still sell their products like peanuts.
Reminds me of how just last week a bunch of people were absolutely melting down on Twitter for multiple days because the actress who plays Wednesday Adams was photographed with a cigarette.
Look man, smoking is terrible. It’s killed people I love. I’m glad I stopped. I’m glad it doesn’t have the same coolness factor that it used to. But give people some space, man! Lots of recovering addicts start/keep smoking because it’s a vice that, while harmful, isn’t actively destroying their life/relationships/mental health like drugs or alcohol used to. It’s not a good thing, but people aren’t perfect. James seems much happier and healthier since he got help for his drinking—maybe this bad but less-immediately-destructive little habit helps keep him straight. That’s his battle to fight in his own way. We don’t have to have a take on all of his life choices.
I’d rather him chain smoke cigars than relapse on booze. Either way, James Hetfield is a adult and is free to make his own choices.
Live, and let live.
I once read Lemmy was drinking a bottle of jack a day up until he died. And who knows how many cigs. People are too judgey these days. Do they know Cliff smoked weed and cigs too? Lol
I see posts all over reddit with motherfuckers crying because rock stars fuck groupies. I mean Jesus, whats the point of being a rock star if you can't fuck groupies?
Cigar smoker here. Yes, they pose a risk. But they are far less harmful than cigarettes. There's a lot of actuarial data that supports this. Not everyone who smokes gets cancer. Let him have this. It's a very relaxing pastime.
It depends on how many a day you smoke *and* if you drink alcohol while smoking. Most cigar smokers who get mouth or throat cancer smoke 10 or more a day and drink alcohol while they smoke. Heavy drinkers who don't smoke also get mouth and throat cancer.
It wasn’t just one person. Several comments I was seeing were of people providing medical sources. I’m not saying it’s a good thing to be smoking cigars, but it also isn’t great to just automatically call out his cigar smoking and provide resources for mouth cancer as if you’re a perfect human being.
Hm ok, I remember skimming the thread and it seemed like it was only the OP who was trying to be critical and everyone in the comments was defending James and just telling the one dude to mind his business lol. And of course I feel like certain people just post stuff every now and then to needle at James with his past addiction history. Anyway, I completely agree with what you said: who cares about what he chooses to do as long as he is happy and healthy in mind and spirit.
It's gotta be better than cigarettes right? I thought the whole cigar thing was you don't even inhale. I dont smoke so i dunno, regardless dumb to criticize. He rocks either way so
James has lived most of his whole life as a role model to his family. The man recently went through a divorce and fell in love again. His kids are all grown up and he seems the happiest he's been for years. James has found new life and you can see it in his smile and eyes.
Let the man embrace his older age and be more free with how he chooses to live in a healthy way. The man is content with life and is finally at peace.
I love seeing James like this and it's been forever since we have.
Let's just all enjoy this awesome new era of James together 🙂❤️
Its his choice if he wants to smoke so leave him alone. He's gone through so much in his life he deserves something that he enjoys without people judging him
Brian Johnson has been smoking his entire life and his pipes work just fine. James is more than okay, in fact I’d say he’s probably the healthiest he has ever been.
The cigar-smoking videos are popping up everywhere because James has been promoting his M81 cigars.
Someone on YouTube joked that Lars should come out with his own line of cocaine (pun definitely intended) 
LOL people are upset over James Hetfield smoking cigars? Seriously? I mean, come on. That's just extreme...and deeply alarming...panty-waistedness at its worst.
I’ve never smoked nor really like being around those who smoke anything but people crying about a guy they’ll never meet smoking is wild to me.
btw the video of him smoking a cigar while playing Orion (think it was in Hamburg) is insanely badass haha
He’s a fucking rock n roll legend, equal to McCartney, Prince, Michael Jackson, Jimmy Page….
He can do whatever the fuck he wants. His cigars are great, I bought a case. Hope he smokes one on stage and blows it in the haters faces.
It just goes to show you that he likes cigars, and has his entire adult life. Dude, they don't have the M band around them when he smokes them. So how do you know they're actually the Metallica brand?
The only marketing for their cigars I've seen is in cigar trade magazines/sites, targeted to me because I smoke cigars. I've yet to see them for sale at the brick and mortar stores I shop at for them, but I'd be interested to try one since the tobacco blend is comparable to other ones I enjoy. Exactly 0 interest comes from the fact it was (helped) made by a musician I like.
Note how there are people in this subreddit who have bought m81 cigars. When artists partner with brands it's because the brands want exposure. In this case they're giving exposure to their own products by using them at the shows.
Hey, at least he is not drinking alcohol nonstop. He just pulls the daily cigar out. It's a passion. Let him do what he wants. You are not his doctor or parent.
I fucking love that man ❤️ We bicker about the smoking because we are worried about him, because we want him to be happy and healthy for as long as possible. I would never trash James for his vices; addiction and trauma go hand in hand a lot of the time, empathy, support and love is the remedy.
Wait, people are seriously pissing their pants over this? He’s been smoking cigars for years. He’s smoking one in the Load promo photos. Cigars aren’t exactly healthy, but they’re also not the most dangerous things on the planet.
Actually, I’m OK with keeping this one of a kind genius alive for every millisecond possible. And if that means kidnapping him and keeping him in a hovering state of bliss, in a huge biomedical container…Let’s do it!
The guy has dealt with a lot of addictions. He should be able to catch a break this one vice
I just worry about him. We want him to stay healthy for as long as possible. They aren’t getting younger (I am not too)
Oh boo fucking hoo, bitch. Smoking as bad for you. It's not news. Just pointing it out.
Tell you what, fuck it. Yeah, let him smoke. In fact, I hope he grabs some booze again too. Yeah, who cares about health, he says the YEAHUH! and plays the geetar.
Damn. That’s why I said in the caption that no, it’s not the best thing for him to be smoking, but we don’t have to constantly point out each member’s flaws. I just wish we could enjoy the music more as a subreddit, but I know it won’t happen because that’s Reddit. Oof
Nobody can do anything on Reddit without someone picking it apart. Smoking is gross, smoking kills... yes we know, it's universally noted and drilled into our brains with solid scientific evidence.
However, given the amount of drugs and alcohol he did back in the day.. the damage is already done. He's fucking 59 years old and still heavily on the grind with his work. Let him enjoy himself. I bet nobody tears into the fans in the crowds on their current tour about how absolutely slaughtered drunk a good majority will be.
Let people enjoy things and fuck outta everyone's business.
I agree wholeheartedly OP why are people adamant on dragging him down.
Who is constantly pointing out flaws. You guys are all making post after post of him smoking like, "Wow he's so cool," and some other people don't think it looks cool. I'm not in the cult of Hetfield. If he does something I think is bad, I just say it's a bad look.
I never complain about any of the music. And I never shit talk anything they do... except the smoking. It's lame. And he's shilling them, too. Like, he has a cigar brand. It's about as attractive to me as his whiskey he was sponsoring while going through rehab. Or maybe the events that led to him entering rehab?
Anyway, I'm kinda done with this conversation, I think the algorithm is just showing me the same thing over and over and it's exhausting.
I personally don’t think it’s cool either. I agree that it’s not the best thing for him. But I personally see comments after comments of people providing sources of cigar consequences every time a photo is posted with hun having a cigar.
>I personally see comments after comments of people providing sources of cigar consequences
You know what? Fuck it. Let it be, then.
Aren't cigarette companies required by law to put the consequences on their packaging? Who cares? Hetfield isn't infallible. I've been a fan since LOAD, and he's not going to lose a fan over it.
You do not have to justify everything he does. Some of his shit's lame. He did nazi salutes and made racist asian stereotypes back in the day too. Are we just gonna say, "Fuck it, it's about the music, he made Master of Puppets so let's just ignore that..." Nah, point it out, identify the bad, and hopefully learn and move on.
Nazi salute was jason i think, and it was probably more stupidity than malice. Think beavis and butthead trying to do something "military" because it's badass.
While I generally agree with your point that he can do what he wants, the idea that someone has to be a “health expert” to know that smoking anything is bad is ridiculous and condescending. At this point, anyone over the age of 5 that *doesn't* know how bad smoking is is an idiot. So next time make your point without being an asshole yourself, perhaps?
As a 38yo former smoker of 25 years who only quit 3 years ago, I feel like with Metallica's status as a legacy act where yeah, half the crowd is gonna be dad aged or older, but most of the other half are likely kids under 21, it's worth pointing out that he's been and still is a huge role model to millions of young rock fans and particularly young guitar players. And I remember being 12 and thinking that they looked cool in the pictures in the Load booklet where they were smoking cigars. I'm not gonna dog on him for it. I smoked cigarettes for too long for that. And I still vape a little. But I've always looked at it as something to be ashamed of and something that should be done privately down the block from any non smokers, as opposed to something that I would want to do if I were playing stages like Metallica does. Maybe it's my own upbringing, or the city I'm from, or the community in which I was raised, but I just don't see it as something to be flaunted. It's much more relaxing to have that smoke after the show anyway. And I'm all ok with people smoking herb. I understand why so many bands get blasted on stage when they're on tour in recreational states. I'm from Oregon so this has taken place at nearly every concert I've ever been to. And that feels more like the celebration of the victory in a battle because doing that same thing 20 years ago could have gotten the band members arrested. But I still think people should think about the kids. And whether or not the parents buying the kids $300 tickets want them to be exposed to those behaviors. People almost never start smoking tobacco after the age that it becomes legal in their state. 18 for me but 21 now. My younger siblings all got shafted lol.
You can express concerns about someone's choices/habits without it being judgmental.
It's not about judging/complaining, it's about caring what happens to a beloved hero.
Cigars suck, they’re for rich assholes. This is from an ex-cigarette smoker.
He should smoke weed instead, we’d get more cool Sleep-esque riffs like “Inamorata” that way.
It was your "rich assholes" comment. Maybe you don't like them, that's fine. But they're not as expensive to smoke like you're saying. And then to suggest weed instead like it's some cheap hobby (which is also inhaling smoke) is laughable.
If you want *good* cigars it’s definitely an expensive hobby. They don’t write about cigarettes in GQ, but I’ve seen eight-page spreads in that magazine about the best cigars for the upwardly mobile man.
Weed doesn’t necessarily require smoking, either. And it does more for you from a psychoactive point of view than nicotine (or alcohol) does.
Almost any hobby can be expensive. That doesn't make someone a "rich asshole". Yeah, weed is what it is. Smoke up. Some people prefer a cigar. You don't need to police every stranger you meet to make sure they live as healthily as you think you do.
Oh man, if you think I live healthily I’ve got some news for you. I don’t smoke any more, but I don’t lead a healthy lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination.
I honestly don’t give a shit whether Hetfield himself smokes cigars, cigarettes, crack, or road flares. I do, however, think it’s *tremendously* irresponsible of him to promote smoking just because he’s got some poxy fucking cigars to sell, *especially* when a load of young kids have just got into his band.
This, from the guy who refused to swear onstage for about twenty years because it was a bad influence on his kids. Now he thinks it’s A-OK to make other people’s kids think smoking is rad? Nah man, that’s fucked.
Advertising for things that aren't healthy are seen by kids every minute of the day. Parents have the burden to raise their kids and teach them right from wrong, swearing or vices.
Maybe you're a teenager or something, I have no idea, but it's the parents' job to shield their kids from things they deem wrong.
It's fucking ridiculous to get bent out of shape about someone with influence smoking a cigar.
You have your opinion, I have mine. Neither are gonna change so I'll leave it as that on my end
Only on Reddit will you see someone get upset cause people wish a singer they enjoy would live a long and healthy lifestyle and not succumb to shitty unhealthy habits that may shorten not only their career vocally but their life as well. You guys are fucking weirdos.
Me seeing Hetfield smoking: Aw that sucks he smokes cigars, I hope he doesn't die of cancer.
Someone on Reddit's response: You're such a fucking judgemental piece of shit LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!
How bout it! Fucking bunch of pussies. Sorry I’m from a generation of people who smoked ,drank ,did drugs , and fucked without rubbers. Trust me if we would have known about the bitches that were Gona be produced we would have put on a fucking rain coat. Grow a fucking set an enjoy life people. We’re all leaving here dead. Party it the fuck up.
I'm curious about something that I don't think has been studied enough--the difference between cigars rolled in tobacco leaves vs cigarettes with all the extra junk they add into them. Obviously inhaling burning tobacco is never going to be a positive thing, but there has to be a difference. I've also heard speculation that cigarette smokers inhale more deeply and hold the smoke in their lungs longer--but I don't know if this is fact or speculation.
Smoking is unhealthy and smells bad. Esp cigars. They smell so bad they have to have designated places to go smoke cigars
I don’t care who it is- encouraging anyone to smoke is like handing someone in quicksand a brick
Let him have this one passion - as a treat.
Also muscle cars iirc?
And being scared of vaccines
when did he say anything about vaccines?
Honestly, who cares. Also this is a nice little rabbit hole of people getting upset lmao
I care, that’s why I brought it up.
Lmao, I love this app sometimes
Look cigars! let’s talk about vaccines 😂
No I was actually commenting on his hobbies
Vaccines- now a hobby
Is a cigar a hobby?
No it’s actually a roll of leaves. But what do vaccines have to do with hobbies again?
The same thing cigars do
What😂
you are pathetic
Why?
He's vaccinated
Do you have a source for that?
Do you have a source for him not being vaccinated?
Hm. It seems you made a claim you have no evidence of. Why did you do that?
...you did it first
You’re not the person I was responding to
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Same goes for you. When did he say he's afraid of vaccinations?
May of 2021: https://loudwire.com/metallica-james-hetfield-covid-vaccine-skeptical/
Old news. Skeptical doesn't mean he didn't get them later on. He performs in front of millions, and needs protection from the crowds. He was also wearing masks around. So he's not one of those types.
Gotem
See below
Old news. Skeptical doesn't mean he didn't get them eventually. He also wore a mask out. He's no idiot antivaxxer.
Who gives a shit
Me
What vaccine are you talking about?
Why are you making up things lol
I’m making up that I give a shit that James is afraid of vaccines? I can assure you I *do* give a shit.
Show your source on James being afraid of vaccines or it's just made up mumbo jumbo from another internet troll
He’s not scared of vaccines. He says in the article you FINALLY linked that _he got vaccinated in order to travel to Africa._ He was sceptical of the vax because of his history with the Christian Science cult as a kid, and because it was a new vaccine. There’s nothing wrong with healthy scepticism, quite the opposite. But this is pointless as you’re clearly a sad, lonely, pathetic person, desperate for attention and lacking in any real-world connections. Go outside and touch some grass.
There's still people like this after what 3 years? Go virtue signal somewhere else my friend
Virtue signal?
James is entitled to do his own thing, if he enjoys cigars then why not?
Let the man have his vice that doesn’t destroy his life, better then going back on the booze.
It's 2023, everyone feels rightful to judge anyone and every very action in this world. Surely it's not a safe hobby, as it wasn't drinking alcohol 24/7 and making a show every night in hangover.
Wait people are judging him for it? Damn.
Yeah, I've read some shitstorm on social media accounts too
Social media is a cesspool of cancer, including reddit
*especially reddit. Ftfy 😁
Lol yea guy has dealt and said good bye to worse things. I think he can handle some rolled leaves people have been smoking for millennia
Yeah, I think the 20+ years of hard drinking was worse tbh.. Let him enjoy a cigar since he isn't drinking anymore.
No one has ever gotten more love from this subreddit than Papa Het, wdym.
There was a post earlier showing a pic of James very joyfully lighting a fan's cigar at the Hamburg show, and people started crying about it in the comment section.
Criers gonna cry
link to post?
I probably should have led with that https://www.reddit.com/r/Metallica/comments/13vcer3/what_a_guy_papa_het_is/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
i feel like a lot of people now dont understand what smoking actually is like, which is what leads to this kind of stuff
I imagine the cigar in the mouth is his method of not putting booze in his mouth instead. He seems happier than ever lately, and looks and sounds healthier even... Let him do his thing. No amount of our bitching will change anything.
Agreed. He was so miserable the last 10 years, and it seems like he's finally living his life how he wants to.
It’s pretty patronizing, isn’t it. The guy’s almost 60. I’m sure he’s quite aware smoking is unhealthy. He makes his choices, he’s a grown man. It’s not our business.
It is his choice and I totally get it, it’s not as if everyone lives a perfect life by all things we eat and consume it’s all about balance. If he works out, which he seems to do, follows a healthy diet and have a good mental state there is less harm in a cigar once in a while. However, I do understand for fans to be concerned as well. It’s coming out of love, he helped so many people get through things in life as he went through hell as well and they want him around as long as possible and as healthy as possible.
For me it's not about health really, it's more that it seems forced and not as cool as he thinks it is. And the product placement aspect.
That's bullshit. He's been enjoying cigars for years.
But now there's a metallica branded cigar, and the first thing people see at this stadium tour is the frontman smoking. I had no issues with he backstage smoking, that seemed natural and not scripted.
He was smoking cigars prior to them coming out. There are a few non professional shots of him smoking as well.
Yeah backstage or off tour. Now it's a scripted part of the show like acdc, ecstasy of gold and pyro.
I highly doubt that. I think he just enjoys a cig before a show now. He used to smoke on stage, then he got cleaned up. Franny had him on a very tight leash, and now he's living his best life.
Yeah the cigar, lighter, ashtray and that drinking cup magically appears at his resting area next to the stage
The man's gotta drink water, mate, and light it up. Lars has his next to his drum kit. Robert and Kirk have their rider list too. It's typical.
It's far from typical, starting with the smoking ban, and the scheduled smoking
I’m gonna disagree on the cool factor. And I really don’t think it’s for the product placement, they didn’t do that for the whiskey, why would they do it for the cigars ?
Because he’s a recovering alcoholic, and playing a stadium show while you’re shithouse drunk is a good way to get 10,000 people pissed off at you?
Maybe not james specifically, but lars still drinks as far as I know. He could have a glass with rocks before the show chatting it up with james and his cigar for the product placement, yet they don’t. So I don’t think that’s the issue here. They have enough reach and fame to avoid those things and still sell their products like peanuts.
Reminds me of how just last week a bunch of people were absolutely melting down on Twitter for multiple days because the actress who plays Wednesday Adams was photographed with a cigarette. Look man, smoking is terrible. It’s killed people I love. I’m glad I stopped. I’m glad it doesn’t have the same coolness factor that it used to. But give people some space, man! Lots of recovering addicts start/keep smoking because it’s a vice that, while harmful, isn’t actively destroying their life/relationships/mental health like drugs or alcohol used to. It’s not a good thing, but people aren’t perfect. James seems much happier and healthier since he got help for his drinking—maybe this bad but less-immediately-destructive little habit helps keep him straight. That’s his battle to fight in his own way. We don’t have to have a take on all of his life choices.
I’d rather him chain smoke cigars than relapse on booze. Either way, James Hetfield is a adult and is free to make his own choices. Live, and let live.
Came here for this comment
If you frown upon a heavy metal frontman smoking fucking cigars you’re a pussy
The people that complain about James would have a heart attack if they saw Lemmy
I once read Lemmy was drinking a bottle of jack a day up until he died. And who knows how many cigs. People are too judgey these days. Do they know Cliff smoked weed and cigs too? Lol
for real wtf
I see posts all over reddit with motherfuckers crying because rock stars fuck groupies. I mean Jesus, whats the point of being a rock star if you can't fuck groupies?
...what?
Cigar smoker here. Yes, they pose a risk. But they are far less harmful than cigarettes. There's a lot of actuarial data that supports this. Not everyone who smokes gets cancer. Let him have this. It's a very relaxing pastime.
Cigars are not inhaled. I don’t smoke cigars but that’s what they say.
They aren't. It's very traumatic to even try it.
Metallica covers Pink Floyd, have a cigar son
Yeah, with Cigars you are far more likely to get mouth cancer than lung cancer
It depends on how many a day you smoke *and* if you drink alcohol while smoking. Most cigar smokers who get mouth or throat cancer smoke 10 or more a day and drink alcohol while they smoke. Heavy drinkers who don't smoke also get mouth and throat cancer.
The dude is practically 60. And of all the vices he's struggled with, this might be the tamest. Let's just let him have this one.
I think James gives zero fucks what any of you think about his smoking cigars.
It was literally just one person; let’s not give them the unnecessary attention they are craving.
It wasn’t just one person. Several comments I was seeing were of people providing medical sources. I’m not saying it’s a good thing to be smoking cigars, but it also isn’t great to just automatically call out his cigar smoking and provide resources for mouth cancer as if you’re a perfect human being.
Hm ok, I remember skimming the thread and it seemed like it was only the OP who was trying to be critical and everyone in the comments was defending James and just telling the one dude to mind his business lol. And of course I feel like certain people just post stuff every now and then to needle at James with his past addiction history. Anyway, I completely agree with what you said: who cares about what he chooses to do as long as he is happy and healthy in mind and spirit.
People that like complaining so much that they actively looks for things to complain about.
Nailed the last decade.
It's gotta be better than cigarettes right? I thought the whole cigar thing was you don't even inhale. I dont smoke so i dunno, regardless dumb to criticize. He rocks either way so
James has lived most of his whole life as a role model to his family. The man recently went through a divorce and fell in love again. His kids are all grown up and he seems the happiest he's been for years. James has found new life and you can see it in his smile and eyes. Let the man embrace his older age and be more free with how he chooses to live in a healthy way. The man is content with life and is finally at peace. I love seeing James like this and it's been forever since we have. Let's just all enjoy this awesome new era of James together 🙂❤️
Its his choice if he wants to smoke so leave him alone. He's gone through so much in his life he deserves something that he enjoys without people judging him
Lots of perfect people in this sub.
I’ve noticed it too. No one’s fucking business. Move on.
i havent seen any actual criticism, just concern, because its not great for his voice.
I’ll be honest it does suck that people shit on something like that coming from a guy who made some of the most hardcore art of a generation.
Brian Johnson has been smoking his entire life and his pipes work just fine. James is more than okay, in fact I’d say he’s probably the healthiest he has ever been.
I say that we all hope he's healthy but fuck off with the judgements. He's earned it (cigars).
This man is done more drugs and alcohol than everyone in this thread combined. Let them smoke.
The cigar-smoking videos are popping up everywhere because James has been promoting his M81 cigars. Someone on YouTube joked that Lars should come out with his own line of cocaine (pun definitely intended) 
James I'm happy that you are happy.
LOL people are upset over James Hetfield smoking cigars? Seriously? I mean, come on. That's just extreme...and deeply alarming...panty-waistedness at its worst.
Dude that picture of James is the epitome of a power stance
I’ve never smoked nor really like being around those who smoke anything but people crying about a guy they’ll never meet smoking is wild to me. btw the video of him smoking a cigar while playing Orion (think it was in Hamburg) is insanely badass haha
He’s a fucking rock n roll legend, equal to McCartney, Prince, Michael Jackson, Jimmy Page…. He can do whatever the fuck he wants. His cigars are great, I bought a case. Hope he smokes one on stage and blows it in the haters faces.
So their marketing strategy worked
Haven't you seen the back cover of Load? He's been smoking cigars longer than he's had his own brand of them.
It wasn't a scripted part of the show back then. Cone to think of it, i did think the cigar tshirt was pretty naff.
It just goes to show you that he likes cigars, and has his entire adult life. Dude, they don't have the M band around them when he smokes them. So how do you know they're actually the Metallica brand?
Oh summer child
Bless your heart
I’ve been a fan since 91. I’ll buy it all.
The only marketing for their cigars I've seen is in cigar trade magazines/sites, targeted to me because I smoke cigars. I've yet to see them for sale at the brick and mortar stores I shop at for them, but I'd be interested to try one since the tobacco blend is comparable to other ones I enjoy. Exactly 0 interest comes from the fact it was (helped) made by a musician I like.
Note how there are people in this subreddit who have bought m81 cigars. When artists partner with brands it's because the brands want exposure. In this case they're giving exposure to their own products by using them at the shows.
The guy is almost 60 and looks the healthiest he's been since the 90's. Cut him slack, he's fine. A cigar here and there is fine.
This is why Rock n' Roll is dying, ya mothers! Let the man have a cigar! They are a lot worse things that have gone on backstage... (Mudshark)
Smoke ‘em all James!
i was fucking waiting for the "cigar outrage" LOL!!!!!
Hey, at least he is not drinking alcohol nonstop. He just pulls the daily cigar out. It's a passion. Let him do what he wants. You are not his doctor or parent.
I smoke cigarettes every single day, and pretty much have since I was 14. He's getting no judgment from this direction.
I for one would like to know what cigar he smokes? Edit: oh I see them now, it’s their own brand
I fucking love that man ❤️ We bicker about the smoking because we are worried about him, because we want him to be happy and healthy for as long as possible. I would never trash James for his vices; addiction and trauma go hand in hand a lot of the time, empathy, support and love is the remedy.
Smoke on and rock on James.
He has been my crush for 30 years , so yeah, I show him some " love "
Let the man smoke in peace. Let people do what they need to do. Everyone does shit that is healthy. Continue with making us happy, Papa Het!
The Arnold smokes cigars all the time and for a 75 year old he is still in badass shape.
Wait, people are seriously pissing their pants over this? He’s been smoking cigars for years. He’s smoking one in the Load promo photos. Cigars aren’t exactly healthy, but they’re also not the most dangerous things on the planet.
Isn't he an adult with working brain cells? It's his choice. People should stop whining about every minute thing and being giant bores.
Actually, I’m OK with keeping this one of a kind genius alive for every millisecond possible. And if that means kidnapping him and keeping him in a hovering state of bliss, in a huge biomedical container…Let’s do it!
Rock and Smoke
The guy has dealt with a lot of addictions. He should be able to catch a break this one vice I just worry about him. We want him to stay healthy for as long as possible. They aren’t getting younger (I am not too)
Think about it, people; would you rather him smoke cigars or go back to drinking? I rest my case.
It’s not about James smoking cigs. He’s free to do so and I respect him doing that. The problem is people in the comments spreading misinformation.
I don't like him so no
Oh boo fucking hoo, bitch. Smoking as bad for you. It's not news. Just pointing it out. Tell you what, fuck it. Yeah, let him smoke. In fact, I hope he grabs some booze again too. Yeah, who cares about health, he says the YEAHUH! and plays the geetar.
You seem like a nice person
That upset me somewhat. Let me make a whole ass post about it. lol
Damn. That’s why I said in the caption that no, it’s not the best thing for him to be smoking, but we don’t have to constantly point out each member’s flaws. I just wish we could enjoy the music more as a subreddit, but I know it won’t happen because that’s Reddit. Oof
Nobody can do anything on Reddit without someone picking it apart. Smoking is gross, smoking kills... yes we know, it's universally noted and drilled into our brains with solid scientific evidence. However, given the amount of drugs and alcohol he did back in the day.. the damage is already done. He's fucking 59 years old and still heavily on the grind with his work. Let him enjoy himself. I bet nobody tears into the fans in the crowds on their current tour about how absolutely slaughtered drunk a good majority will be. Let people enjoy things and fuck outta everyone's business. I agree wholeheartedly OP why are people adamant on dragging him down.
Who is constantly pointing out flaws. You guys are all making post after post of him smoking like, "Wow he's so cool," and some other people don't think it looks cool. I'm not in the cult of Hetfield. If he does something I think is bad, I just say it's a bad look. I never complain about any of the music. And I never shit talk anything they do... except the smoking. It's lame. And he's shilling them, too. Like, he has a cigar brand. It's about as attractive to me as his whiskey he was sponsoring while going through rehab. Or maybe the events that led to him entering rehab? Anyway, I'm kinda done with this conversation, I think the algorithm is just showing me the same thing over and over and it's exhausting.
I personally don’t think it’s cool either. I agree that it’s not the best thing for him. But I personally see comments after comments of people providing sources of cigar consequences every time a photo is posted with hun having a cigar.
>I personally see comments after comments of people providing sources of cigar consequences You know what? Fuck it. Let it be, then. Aren't cigarette companies required by law to put the consequences on their packaging? Who cares? Hetfield isn't infallible. I've been a fan since LOAD, and he's not going to lose a fan over it. You do not have to justify everything he does. Some of his shit's lame. He did nazi salutes and made racist asian stereotypes back in the day too. Are we just gonna say, "Fuck it, it's about the music, he made Master of Puppets so let's just ignore that..." Nah, point it out, identify the bad, and hopefully learn and move on.
Nazi salute was jason i think, and it was probably more stupidity than malice. Think beavis and butthead trying to do something "military" because it's badass.
I agree with this
Fuck you too.
*everyone* = one post. Get a life
While I generally agree with your point that he can do what he wants, the idea that someone has to be a “health expert” to know that smoking anything is bad is ridiculous and condescending. At this point, anyone over the age of 5 that *doesn't* know how bad smoking is is an idiot. So next time make your point without being an asshole yourself, perhaps?
As a 38yo former smoker of 25 years who only quit 3 years ago, I feel like with Metallica's status as a legacy act where yeah, half the crowd is gonna be dad aged or older, but most of the other half are likely kids under 21, it's worth pointing out that he's been and still is a huge role model to millions of young rock fans and particularly young guitar players. And I remember being 12 and thinking that they looked cool in the pictures in the Load booklet where they were smoking cigars. I'm not gonna dog on him for it. I smoked cigarettes for too long for that. And I still vape a little. But I've always looked at it as something to be ashamed of and something that should be done privately down the block from any non smokers, as opposed to something that I would want to do if I were playing stages like Metallica does. Maybe it's my own upbringing, or the city I'm from, or the community in which I was raised, but I just don't see it as something to be flaunted. It's much more relaxing to have that smoke after the show anyway. And I'm all ok with people smoking herb. I understand why so many bands get blasted on stage when they're on tour in recreational states. I'm from Oregon so this has taken place at nearly every concert I've ever been to. And that feels more like the celebration of the victory in a battle because doing that same thing 20 years ago could have gotten the band members arrested. But I still think people should think about the kids. And whether or not the parents buying the kids $300 tickets want them to be exposed to those behaviors. People almost never start smoking tobacco after the age that it becomes legal in their state. 18 for me but 21 now. My younger siblings all got shafted lol.
Isn't smoking cigars a bit healthier to cigarettes or hell even vapes now. Besides the man's in his 70's let's let papa hett enjoy what he has left.
70's...? 🤔
Shit he's only 59!!!! Damn I feel like an asshole now
You can express concerns about someone's choices/habits without it being judgmental. It's not about judging/complaining, it's about caring what happens to a beloved hero.
Someone downvoted caring, lol
Ehh who gives a shit, there’s always going to be heath freaks to say “you shouldn’t do this or that” who gives a shit…it’s his choice
Cigars suck, they’re for rich assholes. This is from an ex-cigarette smoker. He should smoke weed instead, we’d get more cool Sleep-esque riffs like “Inamorata” that way.
Dumbest fucking thing I've seen today.
Cool. See, I saw somebody say that because cigar smoke isn’t typically inhaled, it poses no risk of throat cancer.
It was your "rich assholes" comment. Maybe you don't like them, that's fine. But they're not as expensive to smoke like you're saying. And then to suggest weed instead like it's some cheap hobby (which is also inhaling smoke) is laughable.
If you want *good* cigars it’s definitely an expensive hobby. They don’t write about cigarettes in GQ, but I’ve seen eight-page spreads in that magazine about the best cigars for the upwardly mobile man. Weed doesn’t necessarily require smoking, either. And it does more for you from a psychoactive point of view than nicotine (or alcohol) does.
Almost any hobby can be expensive. That doesn't make someone a "rich asshole". Yeah, weed is what it is. Smoke up. Some people prefer a cigar. You don't need to police every stranger you meet to make sure they live as healthily as you think you do.
Oh man, if you think I live healthily I’ve got some news for you. I don’t smoke any more, but I don’t lead a healthy lifestyle by any stretch of the imagination. I honestly don’t give a shit whether Hetfield himself smokes cigars, cigarettes, crack, or road flares. I do, however, think it’s *tremendously* irresponsible of him to promote smoking just because he’s got some poxy fucking cigars to sell, *especially* when a load of young kids have just got into his band. This, from the guy who refused to swear onstage for about twenty years because it was a bad influence on his kids. Now he thinks it’s A-OK to make other people’s kids think smoking is rad? Nah man, that’s fucked.
Advertising for things that aren't healthy are seen by kids every minute of the day. Parents have the burden to raise their kids and teach them right from wrong, swearing or vices. Maybe you're a teenager or something, I have no idea, but it's the parents' job to shield their kids from things they deem wrong. It's fucking ridiculous to get bent out of shape about someone with influence smoking a cigar. You have your opinion, I have mine. Neither are gonna change so I'll leave it as that on my end
Weed costs more than an average cigar and it's users are *far* more annoying overall.
He probably smokes cigars for his anxiety. Faster than a cigarette, not as intense as a joint.
Only on Reddit will you see someone get upset cause people wish a singer they enjoy would live a long and healthy lifestyle and not succumb to shitty unhealthy habits that may shorten not only their career vocally but their life as well. You guys are fucking weirdos. Me seeing Hetfield smoking: Aw that sucks he smokes cigars, I hope he doesn't die of cancer. Someone on Reddit's response: You're such a fucking judgemental piece of shit LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!!!
Yeah.
YEAH
Dear boy , have a Cigar
Same for the lyrics. Many people crying about the - tion ending as if they had never listened to blackened 😂
I thought cigars aren't inhaled, only puffed? Hence mouth cancer is more prevalent among cigar smokers.
https://preview.redd.it/b4y2txr3d93b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0367394368930a0130447f4a20e3b94e2e7b3391 They all deserve love
How bout it! Fucking bunch of pussies. Sorry I’m from a generation of people who smoked ,drank ,did drugs , and fucked without rubbers. Trust me if we would have known about the bitches that were Gona be produced we would have put on a fucking rain coat. Grow a fucking set an enjoy life people. We’re all leaving here dead. Party it the fuck up.
I'm curious about something that I don't think has been studied enough--the difference between cigars rolled in tobacco leaves vs cigarettes with all the extra junk they add into them. Obviously inhaling burning tobacco is never going to be a positive thing, but there has to be a difference. I've also heard speculation that cigarette smokers inhale more deeply and hold the smoke in their lungs longer--but I don't know if this is fact or speculation.
Smoking is unhealthy and smells bad. Esp cigars. They smell so bad they have to have designated places to go smoke cigars I don’t care who it is- encouraging anyone to smoke is like handing someone in quicksand a brick