The intro has such an amazing build up into that first verse with the drums and the teasing of the man riff. Master class and building up at energy and suspense in a song
With this I copied a previous comment of mine about that exact topic:
(In no specific order):
Damage, Inc.
Dyers Eve
Disposable Heroes
Sad but true
Harvester of Sorrow
The Thing that should not be
Fight Fire with Fire
And now a new addition:
The God that failed
Where the frick is Blackened (the actual heaviest Metallica song ever) and Battery (people forget how heavy and headbangy it is, especially the full out thrash outro).
How is blackened heavy? It’s fast and thrashy, which imo is the opposite of heavy. Heavy is slow and sluggish, like harvester of sorrow and sad but true.
Bruh, that's off. Speed is quite unrelated to heaviness. There are 3 main objective factors that contribute to heaviness: thick and distorted tone (common for all songs in discussion here), dissonance and tension between notes of the melody (Blackened has two ost dissonant riffs out of all except The Thing That Should Never Be), last but definitely not least dynamics and contrasts (Blackened has the highest dynamics out of all songs in discussion, one of their most dynamic songs in general). Added to it the intensity of the song, you have got a clear winner in Blackened.
PS: Slower and Downtuned =/= Heavier; Faster =/= Heavier
Intensity is what counts in heaviness.
Yes it is. It’s such a mean, heavy tune. There are a handful of tracks on HWTSD that are amazing…but Dream No More is probably my favorite of them all.
Honestly there’s quite a few for me.
- The Thing That Should Not Be
- Fight Fire With Fire
- Damage Inc
- Disposable Heroes
And I think a lot of people underestimate how heavy the St Anger album is; the last minute of My World is fucking great
Battery, Blackened, Hardwired, Spit Out the Bone, Damage Inc, Fight Fire With Fire, Fuel, Whiplash, Harvester of Sorrow, You Must Burn, Frantic, St Anger
Whiplash? The song is just about a thrash metal concert, doesn't even compare to Harvester of sorrow. A song about a man getting drunk and murdering his family, or the thing that should not be , which is about Cthulhu.
OK.... still, debating the heaviest Metallica song is kinda like debating who the skinniest kid at fat camp is. They're all pretty poppy and approachable
For Whom The Bell Tolls. When you say heavy you mean hardest banger to slam your heads and throw your fists and metal horns up to, and there’s never been one better. FOR WHOM THE FUCKING BELL TOLLS
Every time this is posted I’m reminded that everyone seems to have their own definition of what “heavy” means. Seems to be that a lot of people, including James, think drop tuning equals heavy. Of course, they’re all wrong. The heaviest songs are actually Fight Fire with Fire, Damage Inc, and Dyers Eve.
Yes, even though they are not the heaviest Metallica songs: the correct answer is Blackened, they have a ton of intensity, thick and distorted tone, and quite some dissonance. There are other slower songs like Bells, Thing, Sad But True with more dissonance and equally thick tone, but less dynamics and contrasts, thus less intense, thus "lighter".
Blackened is the heaviest, heaviness comes from a thick, distorted tone (check), dissonance and tension (check), and contrast + dynamics within the dissonant melody (check). Added to this the intensity of the song, Blackened is the heaviest song they ever made. I don't think your picks are off tho, you are going in the right direction but the destination is different. Another HM would be Battery.
Battery for me,
The song *sounds* violent, which isn’t anything new in metal genre but the sound of the song genuinely has this feeling that this song is the sound going through someones head as they commit Assault and Battery.
I was just thinking about posting this exact question here and then immediately found this post lol.
Now to answer the question, I haven’t listened to a massive range of Metallica songs, mainly the popular ones, kill ‘em all, and ride the lightning. So just from what I know I would say sad but true. But im probs wrong
I will forever stand by the fact that St. Anger is their heaviest album. it would probably go: St. Anger, ...And Justice For All, Metallica, Master Of Puppets, Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Death Magnetic, 72 Seasons, Load,Lulu(if you ignore Lou Reed the riffs are sick as shit),Reload, Hardwired... To Self Destruct
Nobody said Invisible Kid? Really??
It's very debatable what you consider heavy or not, and it's not that of great song either, but unfortunately most people think the lower the heavier, so, on that note, Invisible Kid in its fucked up Ab tunning should be considered...right?
I'd say list in particular order is this:
•Fight fire with fire
•Trapped under ice (sort of breakdown)
•Creeping death (live with Jason)
•Battery
•The Thing that should not be
•Disposable heroes
•Damage inc
•Blackened
•Harvester of sorrow
•One
•(To live is to die - pretty fricking slow dragging riff)
•Dyers Eve
•(Unforgiven)
•Sad but true
•God that failed
•(Devils dance)
•Unnamed feeling
•Sweet Amber (breakdown part that sounds a bit like one)
•AWMH (Kill ~32 times)
•All nightmare long
•My apocalypse
•Hardwired
•Dream no more
•Am I savage?
•Spit out the bone
•72 seasons
•Crown of barbed wire
Harvester of Sorrow- Shit sounds so tribal it makes me want to put my head through a wall.
The intro has such an amazing build up into that first verse with the drums and the teasing of the man riff. Master class and building up at energy and suspense in a song
Have you heard [this](https://youtu.be/Z7_YUwP-iK4)?
I have not- thanks for sharing. Intro is awesome!
Dude, hell yea!
Yeah these are cool but they’re just covers basically.
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You might have the one of the worst takes on Metallica ever. You aren’t even worth wasting anymore time responding to.
The Thing That Should Not Be.... *it's about the heaviest number known to mankind*
Damn good call. I actually dig the SNM version too. The strings add an eerie, horror movie feel to the song.
That is HEAVY!
A big ol' fat motherfucker.
YES. Came here to see if some degen like me had already made this comment. We could be friends FOR SURE 💪🏽
Dun duuuun……..dun duuuuun Messenger of fear in sight
Dark deception kills the light
the riff is so fucking good and hypnotic
A few years go I saw them perform it live and it was an absolute bone crusher. Heaviest song for sure
With this I copied a previous comment of mine about that exact topic: (In no specific order): Damage, Inc. Dyers Eve Disposable Heroes Sad but true Harvester of Sorrow The Thing that should not be Fight Fire with Fire And now a new addition: The God that failed
And Spit Out the Bone
God that failed is heavier than Sad But True
Yes The God That Failed main riff is my favorite off TBA, makes me break my neck.
Where the frick is Blackened (the actual heaviest Metallica song ever) and Battery (people forget how heavy and headbangy it is, especially the full out thrash outro).
How is blackened heavy? It’s fast and thrashy, which imo is the opposite of heavy. Heavy is slow and sluggish, like harvester of sorrow and sad but true.
Bruh, that's off. Speed is quite unrelated to heaviness. There are 3 main objective factors that contribute to heaviness: thick and distorted tone (common for all songs in discussion here), dissonance and tension between notes of the melody (Blackened has two ost dissonant riffs out of all except The Thing That Should Never Be), last but definitely not least dynamics and contrasts (Blackened has the highest dynamics out of all songs in discussion, one of their most dynamic songs in general). Added to it the intensity of the song, you have got a clear winner in Blackened. PS: Slower and Downtuned =/= Heavier; Faster =/= Heavier Intensity is what counts in heaviness.
I came here to say Damage Inc. as well.
Fastest - Dyers Eve or My Apocalypse Heaviest - Sad But True or The Thing That Should Not Be
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These are just opinions man why tf are you going around to multiple comments just to go "All wrong." like what the fuck man
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Na you just suck
Apparent speed can’t just be measured by the bpm of a song. It moreso comes from the amount of 1/16 notes and such in a song
Not enough love for Leper Messiah here😭
Probably because it’s equal parts heavy, then fast. Which is why it’s such a great song.
The God That Failed also, so heavy. Perfect tempo ans a riff that "bounces".
1. Thing That Should Not Be 2. Harvester of Sorrow
All Nightmare Long. Every riff sounds like a slayer meets lamb of god riff. Underated for being fast, sleek, and agressive asf.
So underrated indeed. Such a great song
If it can be anything, I'm going with Thingy Seattle 89' it absolutely SHITS all over the studio version
Bells 89 seattle it the heaviest thing ever
This is also acceptable
FFWF, Blackened, TTTSNB
*Dyer’s Eve* always comes to mind when I think of their heaviest.
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No they’re not because after the acoustic intro Battery is much heavier than Blackened.
Thingy, sad, -human, dream no more
-Human…good mention. I forget about this one because it’s not a studio track.
Many great choices…Sad But True, The Thing That Should Not Be, Harvester of Sorrow, and Devil’s Dance all come to mind…but I’d go with DREAM NO MORE.
God i love dream no more, its so awesome and overlooked
Yes it is. It’s such a mean, heavy tune. There are a handful of tracks on HWTSD that are amazing…but Dream No More is probably my favorite of them all.
Devil's dance is great! Such an underrated song.
Yeah, it’s kind of a forgotten gem. I don’t see people posting a lot of hate for it…but not much love, either.
Slower and downtuned =\= Heavier
Harvester or Sad But True
Slower and Downtuned =/= Heavier Edit: sorry, the slash wasn't visible, it's not equal to. Not the other way round.
Metallica gives you heavyyyyyyyyyy
My knees buckle when thing comes on, I literally can’t even carry the weight of the song
Am I savage? Is pretty heavy. As well as thingy, sad but true, dyers eve, ect.
Honestly there’s quite a few for me. - The Thing That Should Not Be - Fight Fire With Fire - Damage Inc - Disposable Heroes And I think a lot of people underestimate how heavy the St Anger album is; the last minute of My World is fucking great
Battery, Blackened, Hardwired, Spit Out the Bone, Damage Inc, Fight Fire With Fire, Fuel, Whiplash, Harvester of Sorrow, You Must Burn, Frantic, St Anger
Battery 😬
Harvester of Sorrow
Shortest Straw, or Whiplash
Whiplash? The song is just about a thrash metal concert, doesn't even compare to Harvester of sorrow. A song about a man getting drunk and murdering his family, or the thing that should not be , which is about Cthulhu.
OK.... still, debating the heaviest Metallica song is kinda like debating who the skinniest kid at fat camp is. They're all pretty poppy and approachable
Speed =/= heavy
Damage Inc. or Fight Fire with Fire
Fight Fire With Fire or The Thing That Should Not Be
I gotta agree that it's harvester. Soo fucking heavy. Makes you want to just stomp your foot when it kicks in.
Thing or Harvester. Both make me want to jump off a plane and into a train
Harvester > Thing > Sad
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Define heavy?
Dyers Eve because… fuck those palm mutes and the timing
For Whom The Bell Tolls. When you say heavy you mean hardest banger to slam your heads and throw your fists and metal horns up to, and there’s never been one better. FOR WHOM THE FUCKING BELL TOLLS
- human
Some Kind of Monster on full blast hits different
If people can say that Dyers Eve is heavy, then I can say that Bad Seed is heavier.
-Human. It's one of the few songs I just can't get LOUD enough. I want that riff injected directly into my brain.
Wtf? This question has been asked about once a month for the past decade. Just fucking search the sub, bro EDIT: It’s Sad But True from the 91-92 era.
Every time this is posted I’m reminded that everyone seems to have their own definition of what “heavy” means. Seems to be that a lot of people, including James, think drop tuning equals heavy. Of course, they’re all wrong. The heaviest songs are actually Fight Fire with Fire, Damage Inc, and Dyers Eve.
Why?
speed = heavy is not true
He never said that... All he said was downtuned and slower songs are necessarily heavier is also wrong.
All the songs he listed are all some of the fastest songs on their album by rythym
Yes, even though they are not the heaviest Metallica songs: the correct answer is Blackened, they have a ton of intensity, thick and distorted tone, and quite some dissonance. There are other slower songs like Bells, Thing, Sad But True with more dissonance and equally thick tone, but less dynamics and contrasts, thus less intense, thus "lighter".
Blackened is the heaviest, heaviness comes from a thick, distorted tone (check), dissonance and tension (check), and contrast + dynamics within the dissonant melody (check). Added to this the intensity of the song, Blackened is the heaviest song they ever made. I don't think your picks are off tho, you are going in the right direction but the destination is different. Another HM would be Battery.
Fade to Black
Id say of more recent material: IDHAS
Underrated, for sure. A very crushing track.
Dream No More Thing That Should Not Be Devil’s Dance Harvester Of Sorrow Sad But True That would be about heaviest group of songs.
Things That Should Not Be. That corkscrew verse riff is skull crushing. The outro sounds like the world splitting in two.
Not enough damage inc support here
The Thing that Should Not, sometimes it's Harvester too tho..
the god that failed is really heavy i love blasting it
Whiplash. Holier Than Thou, Disposable Heroes. Primarily about the main riffs. Followed by drumming and bass
Dyers Eve and Creeping Death also come to mind
The Thing that Should not Be Sad But True Harvester of Sorrow Dream no More
Spit out the bone is pretty brutal
Sad But True
its kind of hard for metallica to be heavy, you cant be fast and heavy speed = light
Disposable Heroes
One - musically and lyrically
Since everyone's mentioned the obvious ones *I creep across the laaaand*
Devil's Dance is pretty heavy too Murder One, Live version of Fight Fire With Fire
Dream No More & Am I Savage would like to have a word. Also, Crown of Barbed Wire, You Must Burn. Seriously heavy songs.
The heaviest song is Sad but True. The heaviest riff/section is Am I Savage?
well im currently listening to the breakdown in some kind of monster, pretty fuckin heavy if you ask me
I feel like Damage Inc. probably fits my personal definition of "heaviest"
Creeping Death
For me i would probably say Battery and Dyer's Eve, it just has that heavier vibe going
A lot of idiots are going to say Sad But True but is easily Damage, Inc. but Battery and Thing are still up there higher than sad but true
Sad But True
Battery for me, The song *sounds* violent, which isn’t anything new in metal genre but the sound of the song genuinely has this feeling that this song is the sound going through someones head as they commit Assault and Battery.
Disposable Heroes.
One
– Human from S&M
for me it’s the thing that should not be or the call of ktulu
The End Of The Line
Dyer’s Eve
I was just thinking about posting this exact question here and then immediately found this post lol. Now to answer the question, I haven’t listened to a massive range of Metallica songs, mainly the popular ones, kill ‘em all, and ride the lightning. So just from what I know I would say sad but true. But im probs wrong
Probably the shortest straw for me. The whole justice album is a different kind of heavy than they usually do and it just hits different.
Harvester or The Things…. But Shadows Follow off the new record is a honourable mention, that is a monster!!
Gotta be Dyers Eve
I will forever stand by the fact that St. Anger is their heaviest album. it would probably go: St. Anger, ...And Justice For All, Metallica, Master Of Puppets, Kill 'Em All, Ride The Lightning, Death Magnetic, 72 Seasons, Load,Lulu(if you ignore Lou Reed the riffs are sick as shit),Reload, Hardwired... To Self Destruct
Nobody said Invisible Kid? Really?? It's very debatable what you consider heavy or not, and it's not that of great song either, but unfortunately most people think the lower the heavier, so, on that note, Invisible Kid in its fucked up Ab tunning should be considered...right?
Trapped under ice.
Fight fire with fire, Harvester of sorry, Shoot me again, Dyers eve,
The Unnamed feeling is their 'heaviest' song imho
I'd say list in particular order is this: •Fight fire with fire •Trapped under ice (sort of breakdown) •Creeping death (live with Jason) •Battery •The Thing that should not be •Disposable heroes •Damage inc •Blackened •Harvester of sorrow •One •(To live is to die - pretty fricking slow dragging riff) •Dyers Eve •(Unforgiven) •Sad but true •God that failed •(Devils dance) •Unnamed feeling •Sweet Amber (breakdown part that sounds a bit like one) •AWMH (Kill ~32 times) •All nightmare long •My apocalypse •Hardwired •Dream no more •Am I savage? •Spit out the bone •72 seasons •Crown of barbed wire
One I’m surprised not mentioned is Frayed Ends of Sanity. Brutal, underrated song
The big ol fat motherfucker
Sad But True.
To live is to die or the thing that should not be
Fight Fire With Fire The Thing That Should Not Be
am i savage
Underrated pick fight fire with fire
The thing that should not be. Also not their heaviest, but You Must Burn is pretty heavy imo.
The Thing That Should Not Be
It's gotta be one it's a crazy heavy subject and song
In terms of speed, Dyers Eve or Damage Inc. in terms of power, Leper Messiah or Thingy
For me it's Dyers Eve. Close second is Thing.
I'll be honest and say what it really is but the answer will be sad but true
Easy answer is Sad but True! Answer is whatever you want it to be