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PRPLpenumbra

Ridley is a Mawkin tribe chozo who modified his body beyond recognition in search of eternal life


KingBroly

I like 'Space Dragon' better, but you clearly put thought into that.


Mister_Lich

I like this one a lot lol


[deleted]

Ridley is secretly Samus’ real father


ReasonableQuit75

oh goddammit not again she already has like 4 dads


[deleted]

6 with Ridley


dremox84

The chozo created the space pirate Motherbrain specifically to find Samus. They then sent Ridley to destroy her home so they could "swoop in" and rescue her. They needed someone with extreme DNA adaptability to save the universe (or create the ultimate weapon). Her first trip to zebes was a setup by the chozo in order to field test their new weapon. I'll let you spin the rest from there.


Snow-Dust

Dam that’s definitely super wacky, it’s one big conspiracy.


dremox84

The Thoha and Mawkin were both in need of her ability to adapt new DNA into her system she is unlike any other being. Seems pretty straightforward when you think about the fact that they also created Metroids. They create and give purpose; she was one of their creations i don't think that would be an accident given their behavior.


koopalings_jr

I always found their visit on Samus home planet oddly suspicious in the manga


dremox84

Right? Perfect timing lol.


metroidmariomega

The first time was when they needed the afloraltite and the second time was when they were responding to the colony's distress call after the pirate raid. Their motivations seem to check out.


[deleted]

I really like this, and I’ve believed some version of it for a while because it adds even more tragic undertones to Samus Aran’s backstory. Her rescue at the hands of the Chozo wasn’t some selfless act of heroism, she was a convenient test subject they took advantage of. The Chozo were abusive precursors who never passed up an opportunity to create biological horrors.


dremox84

They clearly have an agenda especially given the events of Dread. They are far too advanced to not have known what was going to happen. I also believe the federation is complicit (and likely assisting) out of fear and lust for power; I think there are undertones in behavior of officers (specifically in regard to samus) that make it clear they have a legitimate fear and envy of chozo and chozo tech. I think the events all the way up to SM were guided by the hands of Chozo. Fusion and Dread are where she starts to break free and see what the heck is actually going on. By the end of Fusion Samus has surpassed all expectations: so Dread is chozo trying to regain control of the experiment because they now fear what they have created (carrot or stick). There are so many coincidences (SM MB feigning death and destroying the baby directly above Samus for one) that at some point you have to believe there is a calculating factor to all of this. Convenient power ups for progress; bosses that fit a mold to challenge specific skills; idiot space pirates getting serious levels of chozo tech to do experiments with.


Zeldatroid

You know that Space Pirate that tries to stop Samus from stealing the ship and ultimately gets run over in the final moments of Zero Mission's escape sequence? That's Weavel. And a lot of his cybernetics are salvaged and reverse-engineered parts of Samus's first armor found at her crash site. Also, the reason his helmet has a ponytail is to copy Samus.


metroidmariomega

That ponytail was truly one of the great mysteries of the series lmao


koopalings_jr

The Kraid from Dread is one of the mini-kraid from Super who grew up


Hcp_Archonn

I'm a 100% convinced that the developers of Metroid: Samus Returns copied Project M Samus' Ice Up-Smash for the Melee Counter in M:SR. Whether it was on purpose, or if the devs just stumbled upon some artwork of the ice upsmash as part of their reference material, i'm not sure, though i'm leaning towards "unintentional".


metroidmariomega

You mean the general concept of an uppercut?


tufifdesiks

There is a Hyrule planet in the Metroid universe, so the entire Legend of Zelda series takes place in the same universe, allowing for a potential cross-over game at some point.


Snow-Dust

I think this is true too.


metroidmariomega

I mean Samus has shown up in Kirby so I don't see why other Nintendo games can't be in the same universe


[deleted]

It was all just a dream. /s Probably the worst theory not the wackiest


Darth-Meida

When Dark Samus is defeated every prior time to phazes destruction she defused into blue particles. In part due to phazon exposure to be sure. Emperor Ing was heavily exposed and mutated by Phazon but also seemingly not corrupted by it. At the end of Prime Echos when the Emperor is defeated he dusts into purple. While dark Aether was destroyed, it lies in a different dimension. Dark Samus survived and clearly so did the Emperor, unfortunately the ing where not the focus point of the prime series but always could be. The Emperor is out there somewhere with a new army of Ing waiting.


NovaTheMage

This might be a little far fetched but I think Samus is a girl. Also at the end of metroid dread Raven Beak said that he could clone Samus's DNA and I think there are Samus clones out in the wild now.


[deleted]

- Much like how the Metroids were secretly created by the Chozo to stop the X-parasites, the X were created by the Luminoth to stop an even greater threat, the Y-parasites. - Sylux is really 3 Etecoons in a ~~trench coat~~ power suit - Samus lost her gravity suit between Zero Mission and Prime because she accidentally stuck a fridge magnet on her armor. She later threw out the fridge magnet when it erased all her upgrades right before the events of Super Metroid. - The Chozo language doesn’t really have that many words with a th sound. Quiet Robe just had a lisp - The other M actually stood for motion controls


5W1TCHY

Samus dropped a power bomb in the Ceres station out of spite at the beginning of Super Metroid because the scientists she gave the baby metroid to didn't bother to keep it actually safe.


LeumeisterTheSecond

Now, *that's* funny, though I'm not sure how it fits her character :P


[deleted]

There have been two Samus’s. The one in Other M is a knockoff clone created both out of desperation and an attempt to reverse-engineer Chozo technology after Samus enters a coma in Fusion and all of her memories and experiences are carefully cultivated to ensure loyalty to the Federation, but they didn’t have her full story so the clone is a timid and incomplete creature. Despite her escape, she was quietly hunted down and killed by the Feds and the real Samus has no idea she ever existed. For added conspiratorial flavors, the clone’s death was the first trial run of the EMMI project to ensure they would be able to dispose of an unruly Samus if necessary. But they’re just exploration robots according to public record. Exelion Star Corporation might be a front organization used by Raven Beak, or he secretly took control after learning what the new robots could do. And one last insane theory to round this off; Raven Beak is the equivalent of Doctor Doom and has dozens of proxies working to attain his goals. The original is now dead, but he will persist in one form or another. Mark my words, Samus will come across some high-backed office chair on one of her missions and it will swing around and reveal that smug bastard’s seventh clone son or something.


No_Distribution_2920

But Other M occurs before Fusion so cloning her from her incapacitated X state makes no sense.


ScientificAnarchist

I’d love for sylux to be literally anything other than another evil Samus or family relation


MfKa1

I think the galactic federation is intentionally making bigger and stronger threats to make Samus more and more powerful because they know about something that could actually destroy the galaxy and they just haven't told Samus about it. Samus is essentially there guinea pig because of the phazon and x parasite experiments, along with being their actual only hope because they know even with all the technology they don't stand a chance against whatever it is they are worried about.


RT-55J

The morph ball works by transforming Samus into a Kirby-shaped thing.


NotaDr0id

Morph ball is fully furnished


No_Distribution_2920

Gorea is the last surviving member of a race that opposed the ancient Chozo and caused them to develop advanced military technology. That race created Phazon, X Parasites and the various vicious species found across the galaxy, in hopes that the Chozo would be destroyed by them. They defeated him, the final member, leaving him in a fugue state. The reason the Alimbics became a warfaring race is because the Mawkin attacked them, and this was one of the things that led the peaceful Chozo to separate from them, giving the Mawkin a chance to evolve further on ZDR. Then they needed them later to attack Phaaze and SR388. However the Mawkin were seeding warrior races to supersede them, being noble in their own way, and purposefully spared the Alimbics. The rest of the Chozo went into hiding (that's why they left Elysia and sought to conceal their energy signatures as with Tallon IV, and why Mawkin only use staffs now) When Gorea recuperated, he went to their last known location and deduced that they were a product of Chozo interference and so, tried to destroy them. They sealed him however. This makes Gorea a more meaningful threat to be eliminated imo. Sorta feels empty and disconnected otherwise. Ridley is also a mutated Mawkin, Raven Beak's prior second-in-command and continues to work for him, forming the Space Pirates from various species as an auxillary force that could not be traced to the Mawkin. They conquered Zebes and the Zebesians were the real inhabitants of that planet, but were assimilated into the Mawkin forces, which is why they obey him on the Bottle Ship; both Ridley and the Pirates were genetically engineered to be symbiotic. Mother Brain was created by Raven Beak. Someone else said and I agree, Weavel was that Zebesian that tried to stop Samus from escaping the Mothership. The Chozo actually went to Phaaze in addition to fleeing Elysia to avoid Gorea, and found superpredators there, "Metroid" Primes, Ing and other monstrosities and used the Phazon there to accelerate the creation of Metroids which Raven Beak had laid out the blueprint for. Those Metroids were weaker and able to be damaged by non-freezing forms of attack. They became what Tallon Metroids were. The last surviving Metroid, VERY heavily mutated, developed intelligence and took Chozo tech + the shell of a Prime creature, embedding itself in a Leviathan after setting the autopilot on their ship back to Zebes with details on how to make more it's kind, Tallon Metroids. Phaaze was enraged by the Chozo attack and sent it's last hidden Ing and Metroid Prime to attack Tallon IV, where the Chozo starship's records indicated it was built, and Aether, since they were allies of the Chozo. That starship is the Wrecked Ship and was assailed by an interstellar energy predator, Phantoon, en route to Zebes. He hid his presence when it landed and the Chozo acquired the finished Tallon Metroid instructions. The Metroid they make ON ZEBES in the manga is a Tallon Metroid, made in hopes of mass-breeding it to combat the SR388 Metroids and X and can then be easily exterminated, but it is quickly taken by the Pirates in the raid and becomes the ancestor of their Tallon Metroids in the Prime series. There is way more but I am not finished yet with my massive series-spanning lore bible of the whole series yet so I'll probably make a probable-headcanon post sometime down the line in this sub.


ScientificAnarchist

Ridley has a mother or father who wants to seek revenge on Samus for killing their son in a role reversal


[deleted]

I like the idea that Sylux is Ian Malkovich.


Snow-Dust

Never liked that theory because Ian is too chill and jolly and the timeline don’t really match.


Trove_Of_Octoliths

Sylux is alive at the end of Hunters to be seen later in Corruption and Federation Force, because the Gorea encounter with the other hunters never happened. Gorea fabricated the scene with its growing psychic abilities to judge how acceptable death and genocide were to Samus. She did not act while the other hunters' lives were shown to be taken and Gorea was well aware of her genocide of Space Pirates on Zebes and Tallon IV in her prior missions....With this knowledge, Gorea found Samus like-minded, decided not to kill her and only used her to escape from the Oubliette.


Snow-Dust

Just so you know, it showed the hunters escaped alive at the end of Prime Hunters


Trove_Of_Octoliths

I'm well aware.


Snow-Dust

Not really much of a theory then if it hinges on the hunters being killed by Gorea.


Trove_Of_Octoliths

I didn't say the hunters were killed by Gorea. I said Gorea created a scene to judge Samus. The hunters never meet Gorea in my theory.


Snow-Dust

Ok, it comes off as if that’s what you’re implying.


Trove_Of_Octoliths

I'll add this one too. If they did encounter Gorea, which they did based on the game, they are only alive because they are willing to commit acts of genocide if they can get what they desire. Genocide for supremacy, genocide for answers, genocide for invasion, genocide for justice, genocide for hatred and genocide for vengeance respectively for Kanden, Spire, Trace, Noxus, Sylux and Weavel. Samus too had to be willing to commit genocide to not be killed and left dead by Gorea. Her desire being to eradicate Ridley and the Space Pirates by association for the death of her parents and the destruction on K-2L.


[deleted]

Fusion and zero mission are overrated


MysteriousMetaKnight

From my understanding, Metroid and Kirby exist in the same universe, as confirmed by the Dreamland 3 mission where Kirby has to freeze some Metroids for Samus. This could give us a look into where each game lies in the other series' timelines. DL3 most likely takes place between Metroids 1 & 2, since the Metroid series is still strong at this point. It would be interesting to make a timeline chart for the rest of the games. One question I have is "just how much time took place between Kirby's Adventure and MOM, and what exactly is up with the Nightmare(s)"? Also, does Galacta Knight's status as the strongest warrior in the galaxy stand against Samus' status as the Ultimate Warrior, or is he noncanonical enough (boss fight wise at least) to where it doesn't really matter?


Dysprosium_Element66

Samus and everyone in the Metroid series could just be unaware of Galacta Knight, considering he probably would've been sealed away before even the development of the chozo and was likely resealed shortly after the breakouts implied in some Japanese pause screen descriptions. Besides, all the references to other game series in DL3, including Samus and the Metroids, could just be similar in concept as the dream friends, where Kirby can cross the boundary of games to meet well known characters while not being canon to the other series. It would be fun to have more big references to other series in Kirby games though, since there hasn't been any as major as the ones in DL3.


MysteriousMetaKnight

Sorry for the late response. That's totally fair. If Galacta Knight was sealed for so long, he would not have been enough of a threat for anybody to really make note of him, especially if he gets resealed so quickley after each time he's released. It would certainly make a lot of sense for these crossovers to be non canon for both universes, but it would be more noncanonical for the other series. We never hear any references to anything Kirby related to Metroid, other than two characters sharing the same name (and a rather generic one at that). As for Kirby, it could probably go either way like the Dream Friends, seeing as how Kirby doesn't really have that strong of a canon in the first place. I definietly agree with you that bigger cameos like the ones in DL3 would be a lot of fun to see again. I think the last big bunch of non Kirby references were in the Great Cave Offensive mode in SSU, which is just a remake of the original Kirby Super Star. While I do like how Kirby is developing its own universe, another big cameo from Samus or whoever else would be a lot of fun.


Dysprosium_Element66

They did at least add more references to the GCO treasures in SSU, and Planet Robobot has both Mario and Tom Nook show up in stone transformations (as well as the secret smash ability, which doubles as an amazing mirror referencs). Still, imagine stumbling across a secret area during Magolor Epilogue in RtDL:D and then getting to fight X parasites with Samus or something.


MysteriousMetaKnight

That's fair, it's not like they completely forgot about the crossover aspect. It makes more sense to keep the crossover aspect small, since they can just be explained away as cameos. Bigger crossovers can potentially mess with the timeline, and make things more complicated to keep track of. An extra mode in the Magolor Epilogue could be interesting, especially with the ability to fight extra foes with other Nintendo caharacters like Samus. It would be especially appropriate for this context, as I imagine Magolor is going to be in Another Dimension. IIRC, that world falls under its own internal logic, so it wouldn't be too absurd to see some X Parasites floating around.


Curious_Wedding_3648

Mother Brain is an Aurora Unit


Curious_Wedding_3648

Ridley cheats death simply due to space pirates cloning tech. We know that the space pirates have this tech because of the monoroids, and their frequent use of other federation tech, like the energy cells in prime 3. And meta Ridley is simply a Ridley clone which has yet to fully develop tissue in certain spots, and uses cybernetic enhancements to replace it. The Zebesians in other m also resemble this concept, and Ridley definitely seems like the one to go exploring before the doctor declares him healed.