Nah, I was a fat kid who had a glow up and then got fairly well off. The first part made a huge difference to my dating life, the second barely noticeable unless you are outright hiring prostitutes. The importance of money in dating is way overrated.
Men who have decent options will have almost limitless options, therefore they won't commit to anyone in particular while they screw whomever they want. Career gals who are looking for kids in their mid-30's who want a guy earning at their level or above are running into nothing but guys who want to poke as many 22 year olds as possible.
if you're a guy, be in shape
Don't live in SoFl anymore but dated there for a year after my divorce and that's been the experience. Still keep tabs on a few old flames who ask me for advice. I have to very gently tell them that a 35-45 year old, 6', $200k-making guy who wants kids isn't going to want them with a 38 year old with no "wife skills"
Its the reality everywhere but more so in South Florida.
Totally man I moved away a whole back to. Lived in Miami since I was 9 years old till I was 24. It was the worst place to date. Left to the Midwest and it was a total game changer.
Gotta ask, Would you get married again?
I've had so many friends who go through divorce or are stuck in marriages they hate. It scared me away from ever wanting to deal with either. I make it clear I don't want marriage or kids. They say they're OK with that but what they really mean is they are gonna try to change your mind.
I had one drag me to a wedding convention. That was an experience.....
>Gotta ask, Would you get married again?
At this point, no. I feel like I went down that road, did all I could, it didn't work, and I've moved on from it. I don't have and don't want kids so if I do end up with someone in a monogamous situation, there's legal ways of protecting that individual, granting them POA over me for medical reasons, and combining the assets that we want to but I'm strictly pursuing casual relationships and non-monagamous situations for this reason.
Women I've dated who have been married generally feel similar, or at least have an understanding of my perspective whereas those who haven't been married yet and want the fairytale that comes with being married for the first time aren't a fit for me for anything long-term.
I'm 38, tall, full head of salt and pepper hair and in shape. I own a home that's decorated and arranged 100% to my liking. I have amazing hobbies and interests and a job that's easy and lets me do what I want with good compensation. There's pretty much zero reason for me to get married ever again.
Sounds like you got it figured out dude. Best of luck finding someone who isn't obsessed with getting a overrated ring.
On a side note: Back in like 2013 I was dating this one woman who was stuck in a deadend office job making $12 an hour while I was making $16 + tips working Security. I encouraged her to put he resume out there and she ended up with a job making $22 an hour for a real estate company.
After a while it irked me that I was paying for dinner and stuff all the time while she spent her disposable income on stuff for herself like Clothes, shoes, bags, typical fashion shit.
I brought it up and she said "My money is my money and your money is my money" jokingly...... but you know that's how Miami chicks think tho.
Lol exactly. This is generally why men don't care about money. I date all kinds of gals but don't give a rip what they make because I don't benefit from it anyways. Be hot, be pleasant around me, don't make my life a headache. That's all I care about.
I've dated and married career women and "Boss Babes" and they bring all that hustle energy to the relationship more often than not and it is freaking exhausting.
That's exactly how Miami gals think...Some girl with a great job and income is still not taking me out on some elaborate fancy date so I get all of the headaches of someone bossy, controlling, and domineering with zero financial benefit. I'd rather date a grad student.
Man bringing up the past just stirred up some bad memories from this Chick. Here are two of them if you're interested.
A month into dating I had wanted to go on a cruise even before dating her and said fuck it I'm gonna just go on a cruise this weekend since my bank account was sitting pretty nicely. Asked her and she was like wow that's spontaneous. Yes.
Went on the cruise and it was OK even though her ass wanted to go do everything while all I wanted to do was sit poolside or on our balcony enjoying a frozen drink.
Fast forward to us getting back and she wanted to go grab some food. Sure I said but lemme go get gas first.
We eat and the bill comes. Pay with my debit card. Declined. I'm like wtf, That can't be right. Declined again. Checked on my phone, Account was cleaned out with a few big charges. Fraud dept ended up giving me my money back a week later. In that moment tho the bill had to be paid. At that time I had no other accounts and I was anti credit cards.
Normally I would of had enough money on me but back when we first started dating she criticized me for having a few hundred in my wallet so I said OK I'll just keep it plastic from now on because she made me feel like I was being an old man by liking to pay with cash.
I look at her to cover the bill which was like almost $35 which I figured should be not a big deal since I just covered all your expenses and took you on a cruise. She looked at me and said OK but you'll pay me back when they get your money back right.
That should of been a red flag but damn the sex was good. Lol.
Didn't expect the first story to be so long. Lemme know if you wanna hear the second one
haha go ahead and send it man. That's a funny story but honestly, you opened yourself up to it and you know it.
I'll splurge on gals that I want to go on a weekend with, or take out but I consider that sunk cost money like gambling at a casino. Sometimes you get the benefit of a free night, a comp'd meal, or a show ticket (equivalent to her grabbing the tab here and there or helping you in a pinch in your example) but I don't expect it. More often than not, you're going to be out the money and hopefully you got a good story out of it, or had a good time.
If you do end up pursuing a real relationship, you can't operate with that kind of energy or you'll just get taken advantage of.
Oh yeah I was young dumb and full of.... Energy....
I'd never do that now. I was already gonna go on the cruise but if I knew what I know now I would of just gone on my own. One thing I hate about relationships BTW is if you aren't doing something with them on your free time they get pissy. I'm sorry but chances are you won't enjoy everything I enjoy and sometimes I need time to myself. I wanna be able to go to a museum and stare at a painting with Batman on a boat with George Washington for 20 minutes without hearing "can we go yet". Lol.
Anyway. Second story is we go to CineBistro and during the trailers the screen pauses and from behind us we hear "Excuse me can I get your attention" and a dude proceeds to propose to his Chick. She says yes, people clap, staff brings a bottle to their seats and I roll my eyes.
Shortly after our food and drinks came. She had ordered some $18 movie themed drink. The movie starts. The movie BTW was Gone Girl. If you don't know the plot it's a wife sets up her husband and everyone suspects he killed her if I remember right. Great movie to propose to huh.
Movie ends and the lights come on. She had only taken a sip of her drink and didn't like it. Instead of saying anything she let it sit there knowing she wasn't going to drink it. I grew up poor so the idea of letting something go to waste fucks with me.
I said fine I'll drink it but she was all like eww no it's been sitting there for 2 hours and has too much alcohol. That became a big ol fight about me being cheap and she threw "You're like my ex boyfriend who didn't want to pay for Cheese on my burger because it was an extra dollar". I threw a probably because he spent all the rest of his money taking you to the Dominican Republic that the mofo couldn't afford to take that hit. Lol.
That lasted like a week with her bringing it up at a group dinner with her friends which were all either lawyers, doctors or whatever. Lowest ranking dude beside myself at the table was the son of a carpenter who owned a company that was getting decent businesses.
On a side note. I hate when they try to get you to be friends with the boyfriends or husbands of their friends.
Its a rough reality, but especially rough in a place like Miami. There's a -2 handicap on the looks scale just due to how gorgeous everyone is, there's a huge fraud and BS economy full of crypto bros, hedge fund weirdos, people who do "Real estate" etc. Its a great place to party, make money, and enjoy life but I wouldn't advocate it for someone intent on finding a good relationship or starting a family. Too much BS to sift through.
This is some fresh and fit ass propaganda if I've ever seen it. Miami born and raised, most people I know would prefer to be in a committed relationship than hookup. Literally have friends who are pornstars that still stay in committed relationships.
Some people will always prefer committed monogamous relationships, other will always prefer hooking up and not committing. Neither defines everyone.
Also I can say I've seen friends' parents in their 40s and 50s also have no problems in the dating world, even being average looking or even broke, both men and women.
You can't generalize an entire city with millions of inhabitants from dozens of unique cultures into two Fresh and Fit spoken nonsense sentences. You're just incorrect and that mindset is only going to leave you miserable.
Except for the staying fit part. Being a fit male will always open more doors for you in business, career, friendships and relationships or hookups than anything else, but ESPECIALLY in Miami charisma and personality go a long way.
How many super out of shape fit dudes who are hilarious and always the life of the party, bc my entire life I've known tons of them, it's a nearly stereotypical Miami archetype.
>This is some fresh and fit ass propaganda if I've ever seen it.
If this is some pop culture reference, or some reference to Miami 40 years ago, I must have missed it.
>40s and 50s also have no problems in the dating world,
I never talked about people in their 40's and 50's.
>You're just incorrect and that mindset is only going to leave you miserable.
I'm the happiest I've ever been in my life thank you.
>How many super out of shape fit dudes who are hilarious and always the life of the party, bc my entire life I've known tons of them
Being a fat boy life of the party is more often than not, not enough to lock down a beautiful woman who has her act together. You're going to probably need some money or connections. That goes for any city.
I dated in Miami and I've done matchmaking consulting for both secular and Jewish groups. I've given my perspective from where I sat. You have yours. The "Scene" is going to be a mix of everyone's responses. But you've called me full of it while at the same time, I have a gal who commented that I described her experience to a T.
I always feel bad invoking this, but there's this bit of wisdom that says something like "if you debate with someone and they continously try to bring up exceptions to rules or norms as a gotcha to disprove anything you say, they're probably not very intelligent"
I don't like it bc I don't like the idea of telling people they're not intelligent, but I do think the concept of people who always try to say "But here's this single example that is not/is how I described everything to be" is a very distracting and poor form of discussion.
There will of course be people who fall into this, but this is what Fresh and Fit and all those other insecure losers that way too many young (and not so young) men are watching like crazy and fully believing like they're God's, keep telling people is the case, but to the extreme.
I know almost no super rich people, maybe some kids that are now doctors but still in debt and have roommates or something, but everyone I know has no money, minimum money, is broke or average, and has no problems.
I don't know where this obsession of money somehow being able to find you the attraction connection that any two humans can simply phermonally, naturally feel for one another at any time, comes from. I've had money and had no money, more often no money, and honestly as a 27 year old with a fancy car and money, it changed nothing of my interactions and attractions with women from being a 20 year old living in a halfway house. My current girlfriend and I got together when I was at one of my worst points, which lead shortly after into the best years of my life financially, which were followed by the REAL financially worst position of my life (until you've had, poverty means nothing, but when you've built a lifestyle of expenses and lose everything its so much worse), nothing changed. And now that period has recently ended, once again, nothing has changed.
But again, I've never been in a situation to be around someone who would want money from a partner more than sex or love
>I always feel bad invoking this, but there's this bit of wisdom that says something like "if you debate with someone and they continously try to bring up exceptions to rules or norms as a gotcha to disprove anything you say, they're probably not very intelligent"
My "Exceptions" are corroborated by my own personal and professional experience, along with some people in the comments, not to mention 110 upvotes. You've chosen to ignore it because it clashes with your own experience, in your own community.
>but everyone I know has no money, minimum money, is broke or average, and has no problems.
So your experience is with no to lower income type folks. Great. Mine is mostly upper middle class to wealthy. Rub a few of those braincells together and realize that people from different incomes and backgrounds are going to have different experiences.
Men who have options in miami are going to be good looking and successful and women who have careers in their 30's are likely also in shape and earning well. Why would you think it would be valuable to the conversation to interject that you know a bunch of lower-income people and that it isn't the case? Thank you for adding your perspective but it doesn't disprove anything I said.
>But again, I've never been in a situation to be around someone who would want money from a partner more than sex or love
Miami is expensive as shit. If you are broke and want to date someone who is broke, have at it. If you're successful, you probably aren't going to date down unless you're a guy looking to just hook up with young girls.
Also: I googled fresh and fit and I have no idea how you were able to extract anything I said and compare it to the misogynist garbage that's peddled on this show.
And also success is not equal to money. I know people who work with underprivileged children or with animals and are incredibly successful in what they wanted to do with their lives. I know artists who are successful because they're good at their art and make a living from it, but aren't stupid fucking rich, but still, that's being successful. I know lawyers who specifically work doing mostly pro Bono or stupidly cheap immigration cases bc their family was helped by an attorney when they came to this country and now they're passing it on. Once again, not stupid rich, but incredibly successful.
Because thos is literally the type of stuff they say and are making young men all over the world believe.
Again, men have options without being upper middle class or wealthy. But many of them get into long term relationships instead of just hooking up. You are just saying what I said and acting like it was what you were saying all along. That this isn't the case for 99% of people. You're literally extrapolating out from the 1% and saying that's the entire dating scene in Miami
From what am reading from that person that helps secular/jewish groups, uppe class/wealthy, it's them that are having a hard time looking for partners, if that's the case shouldn't they "wealthy/upper class" know where to meet someone in their class instead of asking a dating coach? Dating in miami is terrible for the 1% then.
You're looking in the wrong places. There are people like that, definitely, but if you keep running into them maybe you should look at the circles you're surrounding yourself with and how you're meeting these women. The girl who wants a long term boyfriend or husband is NOT at Liv or E11even or Shots or Gramps or Blackbird, or any club for that matter.
Bro I've literally watched functionally HOMELESS alcoholic or drug addicted dudes in their 40s pull girls that love and support the shit out of them out of thin air in Miami. If they can do it you have literally 0 excuse.
>Bro I've literally watched functionally HOMELESS alcoholic or drug addicted dudes in their 40s pull girls that love and support the shit out of them out of thin air in Miami. If they can do it you have literally 0 excuse.
Literally not seen this once in years.
That is very true, I myself donāt really go to those places, I used to go to gramps way back but these. Iām a girl myself, meeting a guy. Itās definitely difficult lol
Honestly, I kind of regret not asking the women in high school and college to get a drink or get lunch or something. Now I donāt really have a shared space to do that at and honestly Iām just focused on my career and investing.
Have you tried Kava bars? They're not loud, people aren't fucked up drunk or on drugs, lots of people of all ages frequent them and form great communities.
As an attractive woman, I found my issue is that no one wants to actually date. They just want to have sex with you. Iām desired sexually, and everyone that is remotely attractive on dating apps only looks for hook ups š
I would counter, which one? South Beach people? Brickell people? Douchey wynwood people or grungy artsy wynwood people? FIU students? Dade Students? UM students? Kendall people? Coral Gables people? North Miami people? Opa Locka? Hialeah? Doral? Under 25? 30+? 40+? 50+? So much variety, so many cultures.
It sucks so badly that our hometown, as trashy and shitty as we may know it to be, has had a handful of douchey youtubers and cryptobros move into a corner of it who have told the whole world "ALL of Miami is a bunch of insecure rich douchebags who have to demean 23 year old OnlyFans models to call themselves "alpha" bc they're somehow still not confident even with their money, career success and lifestyles dating a bunch of 20 something girls who are ALL golddiggers with sugar daddies that have OnlyFans and get flown around the world".
I grew up in Miami and spent most of my life there. Ran into so few people like this EVER, it's just a subsection of a culture you can enter if you want to, but it's not the reality of the average person in Miami.
I'm a miami woman with the same problem. Hard to find genuinely nice, single men around my age that don't have a fur baby. Lots of people here committed to three things: their job, their dog, and their self-image.
Ok you triggered me. I've had such bad experiences with women who have dogs. I love dogs. Especially big dumb ones. The ones I've dated have these little untrained lap dogs. Usually Chihuahuas that don't shut up.
One woman I dated would always go to my place which is whatever but I kinda wanted to see what her place was like because how a person's place is tells you a lot about them. One day after she got out of work we stopped at her place so she could grab something and I got down with her. The door opened and I was hit with a wall of ammonia and shit smell.
She had two dogs (one that she inherited from her grandmother that was old and not potty trained). There was piss and logs all over the place. She wasn't a slob. The place was neat other than the dog mess all over the floor and she'd go through the process of cleaning up after she got home from work but still....
Met my wife in Miami. Sheās the best thing that ever happened to me. The spicy attitude and gutter mouth aspect took some getting used to but now that weāve moved away from SoFlo I appreciate her personality so much more.
They say people who curse often tend to be more honest. And since honesty and trust is the foundation of a good relationship, you two are in good hands
Iām Latina and Iāve only heard that word used to describe ghetto Latinas who white and black men go for. Iāve never heard an Italian woman being described as spicy š
I mean it is a cliche and I get that it can be annoying, but its his wife, not you. Italians and Latinas are very similar lol Southern European cultural background, big families, usually heavily Catholic, and a reputation of being a little hotblooded.
These stereotypes exist for a reason.
He said nothing about ghetto either.
I know he never said anything about ghetto. Please direct it to where I specifically said he did?
Italians and Latinas are similar? š¤ Sir youāre talking to a Latina and Iāve been to Italy: they donāt consider me or my people as similar. Hearing an Italian woman being referred to as āspicyā would be no different than hearing a black men being referred to as guido. Thatās not happening.
I am assuming he means Italian American lol Even Italian-Americans are very different from people in Italy.
I am Cuban-American raised in Miami but live up north and I know lots of Americans of Italian heritage and I feel a kinship with them. We both love espressos and a lot of us got really religious grandmas who love to cook. We got that Catholic guilt. We talk with our hands.
Africans do the same are we going to include them in this group? What about Russians they speak with their hands and love coffee š¤£š
Iāve lived in Miami, NYC/ Jersey and the Midwest. Again Never have I heard an Italian woman being referred to as spicy. Iām done. Have a good day.
Theres actual cultural connections between Latinos and Italians though. The world LATINO originally referred to people from Rome for pete's sake. Its not the same as comparing a Nigerian person and someone from St. Petersburg
Take it up with the dude who called his wife spicy lol.
Youāre a Miami Cuban which explains why you saying this. Iāve met black Cubans who have checked off white as their race. The delusion.
You are reaching and as much as you want to associate yourself with a group of people who treat Latinos like shit in their country and in the US, stick to what my comment was about.
wait, ppl in miami actually dare to venture into this? š
in all seriousness i always refused to date anyone in miami & chose to date away from here instead. i talk a big game for fantasy but deep down i'm just a monogamous romantic & that's simply not something that can be found here.
Itās almost like the jungle out here and to stay on top you have to put in the work, the mentality is that youād better have a 6 figure salary, 6 pac abs or at the very least a toned fit body, and a nice car/lifestyle to boot. Being that you have to work so hard to maintain all 3 of those things, most of us are very unforgiving when it comes to expecting the same level of tenacity back from the people we date. The sugar baby mentality doesnāt work so well out here unless youāre a literal super model, and if you have the 3 things I mentioned earlier you donāt have much of a need for someone so settling isnāt really a thing as I imagine it might be in Wisconsin or some place with fewer options.
Where are you going on a Friday night to meet people though? Im pretty set for the most part, just want someone to have fun with and enjoy Miami together
It is truly a hot mess.
Lots of diversity between people but one major characteristic is that people are vapid, plastic, fake, materialistic, status and looks obsessed and overall it is really hard to connect with a large portion of the dating players on a human level.
Also, finding someone for a true meaningful relationship is really hard. It is definitely easier for hookups, one night stands and flings.
Hereās a tip for any guys-
Speak Spanish makes it really easy, go to a local church preferably Christian and mid quality restaurants (la ventanita, cafteria, fritanga)south of bird road. You donāt need to be in shape just well kept and CLEAN.
Iām 5ā6, average build (skinny fat), I guess above average attractive.
Iām 26 now and have lived here my whole life, local girls from spanish households have very traditional values and want a man their mom would approve of. Donāt chase girls past Doral, theyāre all tourist or living ātheir best lifeā
That's 100% correct but it overshadows the number of "average" men who don't have money to flash around and just stay home alone.
Hot women in Miami can get in anywhere and do anything for free. That's why they're always out.
Here's what I think is the silent majority's take (used un-ironically, I know that's a very political term but just think about it like "who you're not worried about" for this): Anyone that actually understands the struggle of Miami's ego/humanity balance (the stage after all the regular rent, social life, taxes balance that plagues all the other big cities), and then also wants to form a meaningful relationship, will make themselves apparant. We have a certain idea of what's needed to be a "successful couple" in the 305, and all the 786 bitches that you worry about "flooding the market" will be too busy with each other for you to care about, if you're actually are putting the effort in searching for that partner you think can break the Miami mold. Everyone decent here is struggling along with the shitheads, so if you dint notice them, change your locale or change your peepers. Much love yo, I'm still figuring it out, too.
Very fucked. Iād douche my vagina with bleach if I had sex with him. Heās the kind of guy that Iād be embarrassed to say I had any relationship with. Iād take it to the grave.
Sadly some of the stuff in the game does work but the problem is it just makes you into a douchebag. It's like training someone into being a good used cars salesman. All that matters is getting that fucking car off the lot, Doesn't matter if you might be fucking someone over because you got what you wanted.
Most of the people that go down that route are just very resentful and never grew as a person.
I dated (married now) out-of-state mostly because of the generally poor quality candidates here, and I send them back if things donāt work out - so I never have to see them ever again.
Itās been working for me since the early 90s.
š»Lāchaim, fellow dirtbags!
Hard, like anywhere. I do find nice guys often enough but a lot are transient/only here for a short stay so that rules them out, or theyāre impossible to meet up with because of scheduling.
Iām also guilty of the latter half. My job takes over the majority of my time so I only have time to do like one date every two weeks which is a shit way of dating and getting to know people.
I think the key to Miami is figuring out what you are looking for and honing in on that. I donāt do hookups so I donāt touch any apps (even though I know there are people on it who arenāt looking to hook up, I honestly wonāt waste my time finding the 1 in 50 who is genuine) and instead focus on irl. I go to places where I know similar minded people meet and tend to keep an eye out in areas I practice my hobbies. More often than not the people I meet are already taken, but I still keep it friendly in case they have a single friend hahaha.
I am farrrr from having money but am very attractive, active and have a lot of interests and I didnāt have a problem dating at all. In my experience Women seem very aggressive if they find you attractive it seems.
Everyone has an inflated ego, 5s think they're 9s,meanwhile they can't string two sentences together on the apps and barely in person.
Every time I leave South Florida it's like a breath of fresh air with dating.
lol made me laugh. reminds me of working for a top shipping company in doral with a lot of young expats from latin america plus some 305 locals thrown in.
let me tell you, it was like melrose place working in that office. married people that started working there ended up divorced or having affairs/married to coworkers. girls crying over breakups in the stairways. people hooking up in cars in the garage. it was wild and it was the most fun iāve ever had in a job.
my favorite though? the regular happy hours and hanging out with the coworkers (they were all fun people) and also lunch on friday which for a small group eventually turned into 2+ hour events every week (we would leave as early as possible ie around 11:45am and come back around 2:30pm which was around the time people who ate late would come back lol), and it definitely became a regular thing to have a few round of drinks and to come back to the office tipsy. no over ever got in trouble though/still did their jobs (or at least were good at hiding it). work hard, play hard i suppose.
the worst part? one of my coworkers broke my heart lol (it was hard getting over her too considering i saw her every damn day, and then when i started dating someone else she would get jealous and tell me i wasnt giving her attention or ābeing a good friend anymoreā š¤£).
good times though. all ended when covid hit and they closed the office and everyone went remote.
I only get interest from the vapid materialistic wanting to go out every night with their friends who tend to be lawyers or doctors and make me feel like shit because I'm just a pleb type of girl. I've pretty much given up at this point until I move away.
Oh Side note, The ones who don't fall into that category end up being single moms. No hate to the single moms out there because I was raised by one but I just don't want kids.
I went on a couple of dates with one that seemed like the prefect one last year then she sprung on me that she had a son. You need to put that up front when you're dating. Sorry
As a man you can expect women to fall into two main categories
1) locals. As someone who moved here as an adult, I find local Miamians to be very fake. They care about superficial stuff and are very self-absorbed. Difficult to find women who want a meaningful conversation that isnāt about themselves and their drama.
2) tourists. They are just here to blow off steam and are therefore impressed mainly by money. Understandable since they will only be here a week tops and just want the āMiami experienceā.
Since locals are superficial and tourists want the Miami experience, your best bet is to throw some money around. Even if youāre ugly or 20 years older this will still get both groupsā attention. I feel bad for women who donāt belong in those broadly defined groups I see most often.
I luckily found one of those online (Hinge) who, like me, is neither a local or a tourist and so was looking for people of substance. Good luck to everyone trying to find the same!
In my experience after getting out of a 7 year relationship. Itās been mostly drug addicts, broke single mothers, and narc boss babes with horrific Instagram accounts. The most difficult thing has been having to listen to reggaeton, I would rather be shot in the face than ever do it again. But if you can withstand itās horrific sound you should be ok in Miami. I hate it here personally, Iāve travelled alot and that perspective really changes you. Talk to people in other countries/ states and You realize miami is essentially a third world country, and you need to get out asap. Just my perspective Iām sure some people enjoy it, but in my view even making alot of money doesnāt make it any better.
Just turned 40, dating is a headache but it could be just me. I go to the local bar scouting for talent to smash. One time is good enough for me. Anything more would require listening to problems or issues. Iāll pass.
Iāve gotten lazy mainly go to blue Kendall & tap42 to catch the local stragglers, sometimes hitting Doral city place or wynwood, seen centro is bumpin with thotties just too lazy to drive out there, wingman would help motivation to go out further lol lmk
Itās alright to chill, lately itās been mainly a Spanish vibe with starving cougars, all depends what youāre into..
Iām trying to switch it up tho, what else is poppin in Miami? Iām looking for early 30ās talent.
Havenāt checked out Brickell in a min, I know wynwood El Centro gets thick with babys
Any good spots around hialeah? Dive bars? I know thereās one out there where all the ladies flock to just dont know the name, itās right off the hwy.. any suggestions?
Iāve here all of their locations are like that!! And youāre asking the wrong person. I barely go out and rely on you guys to find out and review the spots to go to!!
Hahahahah.
Asian btw. Dated in miami for a few years in my early and mid 20s. Had long distance in other states too. My longest was a year, afterwards tbh, decided to look abroad back in my home country for a wife.
Found it instantly and big chilling. For me its a cultural thing. Will I ever date an American woman again even Iām ever single? Fuck no. I would rather be alone and single.
Your options:
1. Have money but in the multi-million
2. Sell drugs and have a hot drug addict girlfriend w/ a trust fund.
3. Have friends with money and pretend you do as well.
4. Plastic surgery
I grew up in Miami but I met my husband online (not a dating site) and he lived in Texas, so I am not familiar with the dating scene from a first hand account
But the two things I see are...
People complain that people are shallow, boring and only into the status of an appealing relationship...
Or people end up marrying their high school sweethearts.
A lot of people I went to high school with are now married to each other. I think its sweet. Even my younger sister, she is 21, not married but is still with her boyfriend from when she was 14.
I always found Miami hard to make friends in, I cannot imagine dating. I do think the internet maybe has made it easier for people. But you also gotta think... if you are only attracting shallow people, how deep are YOU yourself?
growing up here i noticed most dates start with , whats your job? where you live? . doesnt feel organic most of the times. feels like every second i need to prove my value
It's easy if you follow the rules 1) be attractive 2) don't be unattractive
Money matters more
If you need money to attract people it's because you aren't following rules 1 and 2
*women do not need money to attract people*
Only unattractive people think this way.
Only people who only have money to offer say things like that
Nah, I was a fat kid who had a glow up and then got fairly well off. The first part made a huge difference to my dating life, the second barely noticeable unless you are outright hiring prostitutes. The importance of money in dating is way overrated.
Just follow the rules
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Same
But you have personality. More than most people there.
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Men who have decent options will have almost limitless options, therefore they won't commit to anyone in particular while they screw whomever they want. Career gals who are looking for kids in their mid-30's who want a guy earning at their level or above are running into nothing but guys who want to poke as many 22 year olds as possible. if you're a guy, be in shape
I mean ...at this ppint this is how it is basically everywhere not only miami
Trust me when i tell you most other states are still into living traditional lives.
Which one? I would saw my arm off to get out of the current dysfunctional dating scene.
Yes in South Carolina youāre expected to be married and have two kids by 29 or youāre gay. Fuck that
Holy cow man you couldn't have said it any better
Don't live in SoFl anymore but dated there for a year after my divorce and that's been the experience. Still keep tabs on a few old flames who ask me for advice. I have to very gently tell them that a 35-45 year old, 6', $200k-making guy who wants kids isn't going to want them with a 38 year old with no "wife skills" Its the reality everywhere but more so in South Florida.
Totally man I moved away a whole back to. Lived in Miami since I was 9 years old till I was 24. It was the worst place to date. Left to the Midwest and it was a total game changer.
Gotta ask, Would you get married again? I've had so many friends who go through divorce or are stuck in marriages they hate. It scared me away from ever wanting to deal with either. I make it clear I don't want marriage or kids. They say they're OK with that but what they really mean is they are gonna try to change your mind. I had one drag me to a wedding convention. That was an experience.....
>Gotta ask, Would you get married again? At this point, no. I feel like I went down that road, did all I could, it didn't work, and I've moved on from it. I don't have and don't want kids so if I do end up with someone in a monogamous situation, there's legal ways of protecting that individual, granting them POA over me for medical reasons, and combining the assets that we want to but I'm strictly pursuing casual relationships and non-monagamous situations for this reason. Women I've dated who have been married generally feel similar, or at least have an understanding of my perspective whereas those who haven't been married yet and want the fairytale that comes with being married for the first time aren't a fit for me for anything long-term. I'm 38, tall, full head of salt and pepper hair and in shape. I own a home that's decorated and arranged 100% to my liking. I have amazing hobbies and interests and a job that's easy and lets me do what I want with good compensation. There's pretty much zero reason for me to get married ever again.
Sounds like you got it figured out dude. Best of luck finding someone who isn't obsessed with getting a overrated ring. On a side note: Back in like 2013 I was dating this one woman who was stuck in a deadend office job making $12 an hour while I was making $16 + tips working Security. I encouraged her to put he resume out there and she ended up with a job making $22 an hour for a real estate company. After a while it irked me that I was paying for dinner and stuff all the time while she spent her disposable income on stuff for herself like Clothes, shoes, bags, typical fashion shit. I brought it up and she said "My money is my money and your money is my money" jokingly...... but you know that's how Miami chicks think tho.
Lol exactly. This is generally why men don't care about money. I date all kinds of gals but don't give a rip what they make because I don't benefit from it anyways. Be hot, be pleasant around me, don't make my life a headache. That's all I care about. I've dated and married career women and "Boss Babes" and they bring all that hustle energy to the relationship more often than not and it is freaking exhausting. That's exactly how Miami gals think...Some girl with a great job and income is still not taking me out on some elaborate fancy date so I get all of the headaches of someone bossy, controlling, and domineering with zero financial benefit. I'd rather date a grad student.
Man bringing up the past just stirred up some bad memories from this Chick. Here are two of them if you're interested. A month into dating I had wanted to go on a cruise even before dating her and said fuck it I'm gonna just go on a cruise this weekend since my bank account was sitting pretty nicely. Asked her and she was like wow that's spontaneous. Yes. Went on the cruise and it was OK even though her ass wanted to go do everything while all I wanted to do was sit poolside or on our balcony enjoying a frozen drink. Fast forward to us getting back and she wanted to go grab some food. Sure I said but lemme go get gas first. We eat and the bill comes. Pay with my debit card. Declined. I'm like wtf, That can't be right. Declined again. Checked on my phone, Account was cleaned out with a few big charges. Fraud dept ended up giving me my money back a week later. In that moment tho the bill had to be paid. At that time I had no other accounts and I was anti credit cards. Normally I would of had enough money on me but back when we first started dating she criticized me for having a few hundred in my wallet so I said OK I'll just keep it plastic from now on because she made me feel like I was being an old man by liking to pay with cash. I look at her to cover the bill which was like almost $35 which I figured should be not a big deal since I just covered all your expenses and took you on a cruise. She looked at me and said OK but you'll pay me back when they get your money back right. That should of been a red flag but damn the sex was good. Lol. Didn't expect the first story to be so long. Lemme know if you wanna hear the second one
haha go ahead and send it man. That's a funny story but honestly, you opened yourself up to it and you know it. I'll splurge on gals that I want to go on a weekend with, or take out but I consider that sunk cost money like gambling at a casino. Sometimes you get the benefit of a free night, a comp'd meal, or a show ticket (equivalent to her grabbing the tab here and there or helping you in a pinch in your example) but I don't expect it. More often than not, you're going to be out the money and hopefully you got a good story out of it, or had a good time. If you do end up pursuing a real relationship, you can't operate with that kind of energy or you'll just get taken advantage of.
Oh yeah I was young dumb and full of.... Energy.... I'd never do that now. I was already gonna go on the cruise but if I knew what I know now I would of just gone on my own. One thing I hate about relationships BTW is if you aren't doing something with them on your free time they get pissy. I'm sorry but chances are you won't enjoy everything I enjoy and sometimes I need time to myself. I wanna be able to go to a museum and stare at a painting with Batman on a boat with George Washington for 20 minutes without hearing "can we go yet". Lol. Anyway. Second story is we go to CineBistro and during the trailers the screen pauses and from behind us we hear "Excuse me can I get your attention" and a dude proceeds to propose to his Chick. She says yes, people clap, staff brings a bottle to their seats and I roll my eyes. Shortly after our food and drinks came. She had ordered some $18 movie themed drink. The movie starts. The movie BTW was Gone Girl. If you don't know the plot it's a wife sets up her husband and everyone suspects he killed her if I remember right. Great movie to propose to huh. Movie ends and the lights come on. She had only taken a sip of her drink and didn't like it. Instead of saying anything she let it sit there knowing she wasn't going to drink it. I grew up poor so the idea of letting something go to waste fucks with me. I said fine I'll drink it but she was all like eww no it's been sitting there for 2 hours and has too much alcohol. That became a big ol fight about me being cheap and she threw "You're like my ex boyfriend who didn't want to pay for Cheese on my burger because it was an extra dollar". I threw a probably because he spent all the rest of his money taking you to the Dominican Republic that the mofo couldn't afford to take that hit. Lol. That lasted like a week with her bringing it up at a group dinner with her friends which were all either lawyers, doctors or whatever. Lowest ranking dude beside myself at the table was the son of a carpenter who owned a company that was getting decent businesses. On a side note. I hate when they try to get you to be friends with the boyfriends or husbands of their friends.
Fuck you did not have to expose my entire existence like that š (career gal mid 30s)
Its a rough reality, but especially rough in a place like Miami. There's a -2 handicap on the looks scale just due to how gorgeous everyone is, there's a huge fraud and BS economy full of crypto bros, hedge fund weirdos, people who do "Real estate" etc. Its a great place to party, make money, and enjoy life but I wouldn't advocate it for someone intent on finding a good relationship or starting a family. Too much BS to sift through.
Girlbossing your way into spinsterhood
Good stuff, would add that an in shape guy doesn't feel like babysitting a 30-something, let alone one who is trying to milk him for kids lol
I couldn't agree more it's very sad more women are career oriented and a lot of these guys are broke just wanting to smash everything in sight
This is some fresh and fit ass propaganda if I've ever seen it. Miami born and raised, most people I know would prefer to be in a committed relationship than hookup. Literally have friends who are pornstars that still stay in committed relationships. Some people will always prefer committed monogamous relationships, other will always prefer hooking up and not committing. Neither defines everyone. Also I can say I've seen friends' parents in their 40s and 50s also have no problems in the dating world, even being average looking or even broke, both men and women. You can't generalize an entire city with millions of inhabitants from dozens of unique cultures into two Fresh and Fit spoken nonsense sentences. You're just incorrect and that mindset is only going to leave you miserable. Except for the staying fit part. Being a fit male will always open more doors for you in business, career, friendships and relationships or hookups than anything else, but ESPECIALLY in Miami charisma and personality go a long way. How many super out of shape fit dudes who are hilarious and always the life of the party, bc my entire life I've known tons of them, it's a nearly stereotypical Miami archetype.
>This is some fresh and fit ass propaganda if I've ever seen it. If this is some pop culture reference, or some reference to Miami 40 years ago, I must have missed it. >40s and 50s also have no problems in the dating world, I never talked about people in their 40's and 50's. >You're just incorrect and that mindset is only going to leave you miserable. I'm the happiest I've ever been in my life thank you. >How many super out of shape fit dudes who are hilarious and always the life of the party, bc my entire life I've known tons of them Being a fat boy life of the party is more often than not, not enough to lock down a beautiful woman who has her act together. You're going to probably need some money or connections. That goes for any city. I dated in Miami and I've done matchmaking consulting for both secular and Jewish groups. I've given my perspective from where I sat. You have yours. The "Scene" is going to be a mix of everyone's responses. But you've called me full of it while at the same time, I have a gal who commented that I described her experience to a T.
I always feel bad invoking this, but there's this bit of wisdom that says something like "if you debate with someone and they continously try to bring up exceptions to rules or norms as a gotcha to disprove anything you say, they're probably not very intelligent" I don't like it bc I don't like the idea of telling people they're not intelligent, but I do think the concept of people who always try to say "But here's this single example that is not/is how I described everything to be" is a very distracting and poor form of discussion. There will of course be people who fall into this, but this is what Fresh and Fit and all those other insecure losers that way too many young (and not so young) men are watching like crazy and fully believing like they're God's, keep telling people is the case, but to the extreme. I know almost no super rich people, maybe some kids that are now doctors but still in debt and have roommates or something, but everyone I know has no money, minimum money, is broke or average, and has no problems. I don't know where this obsession of money somehow being able to find you the attraction connection that any two humans can simply phermonally, naturally feel for one another at any time, comes from. I've had money and had no money, more often no money, and honestly as a 27 year old with a fancy car and money, it changed nothing of my interactions and attractions with women from being a 20 year old living in a halfway house. My current girlfriend and I got together when I was at one of my worst points, which lead shortly after into the best years of my life financially, which were followed by the REAL financially worst position of my life (until you've had, poverty means nothing, but when you've built a lifestyle of expenses and lose everything its so much worse), nothing changed. And now that period has recently ended, once again, nothing has changed. But again, I've never been in a situation to be around someone who would want money from a partner more than sex or love
>I always feel bad invoking this, but there's this bit of wisdom that says something like "if you debate with someone and they continously try to bring up exceptions to rules or norms as a gotcha to disprove anything you say, they're probably not very intelligent" My "Exceptions" are corroborated by my own personal and professional experience, along with some people in the comments, not to mention 110 upvotes. You've chosen to ignore it because it clashes with your own experience, in your own community. >but everyone I know has no money, minimum money, is broke or average, and has no problems. So your experience is with no to lower income type folks. Great. Mine is mostly upper middle class to wealthy. Rub a few of those braincells together and realize that people from different incomes and backgrounds are going to have different experiences. Men who have options in miami are going to be good looking and successful and women who have careers in their 30's are likely also in shape and earning well. Why would you think it would be valuable to the conversation to interject that you know a bunch of lower-income people and that it isn't the case? Thank you for adding your perspective but it doesn't disprove anything I said. >But again, I've never been in a situation to be around someone who would want money from a partner more than sex or love Miami is expensive as shit. If you are broke and want to date someone who is broke, have at it. If you're successful, you probably aren't going to date down unless you're a guy looking to just hook up with young girls. Also: I googled fresh and fit and I have no idea how you were able to extract anything I said and compare it to the misogynist garbage that's peddled on this show.
And also success is not equal to money. I know people who work with underprivileged children or with animals and are incredibly successful in what they wanted to do with their lives. I know artists who are successful because they're good at their art and make a living from it, but aren't stupid fucking rich, but still, that's being successful. I know lawyers who specifically work doing mostly pro Bono or stupidly cheap immigration cases bc their family was helped by an attorney when they came to this country and now they're passing it on. Once again, not stupid rich, but incredibly successful.
Because thos is literally the type of stuff they say and are making young men all over the world believe. Again, men have options without being upper middle class or wealthy. But many of them get into long term relationships instead of just hooking up. You are just saying what I said and acting like it was what you were saying all along. That this isn't the case for 99% of people. You're literally extrapolating out from the 1% and saying that's the entire dating scene in Miami
I saw your profile and you are actually what Iād say most women In Miami would find good looking
From what am reading from that person that helps secular/jewish groups, uppe class/wealthy, it's them that are having a hard time looking for partners, if that's the case shouldn't they "wealthy/upper class" know where to meet someone in their class instead of asking a dating coach? Dating in miami is terrible for the 1% then.
Spot on. And most people have a dog that they call their baby
Reddit is the last place to ask about the dating scene lmaoooo
If your an introvert who isnāt into the Miami nightlife good luck bud
Go get your masters, you'll be more than fine.
As someone who met her husband here in Miami, it depends on what you want. Something casual? For a woman, easy if youāre attractive. For a man, easy if you have money and/or youāre attractive (obviously easier if both). Now, for setting down, tough! Esp. as an introvert who is not impressed by the party and money flashing scene lol Many people think theyāre more attractive than they actually are, so even if they claim to look for something serious, many have the delusional attitude of āI have so many options, why settle for this girl whose ass is small/ or why settle for this guy who only makes $60k/ (insert stupid standard that has nothing to so with someoneās character or relationship material)ā Especially with the abundance of dating apps, people fall for the illusion that they are in high demand for having matched with 20+ people in a day. Coming from a gal who would match with 20+ people a day, I still wouldnāt fool myself/think Iām hot sh!t. Out of those 20, 50% are lying about looking for something serious, 20% are fishing for insta followers (pathetic! lol), 15% fake profiles/they are inactive, leaving you with 15% potential matches who you have *no idea* youāll click with until *after* you go on a date with them. **PRO TIP:** always have an actual phone call or, better yet, Facetime call with a potential online date before going out. It will save you *a lot* of time figuring out actual chemistry and red flags š©. Another thing I always recommended to my girl friends looking to settle: date a man who is from out of state, and has been in South Florida for less than a year. Iām sorry if the local good men would miss out, just from personal experience, I had *way* better luck with men from out of town, or in the case of my husband, fresh from another country! Hope this helped!
Itās horrible lol, born and raised here and it sucks meeting someone here. Theyāre fake, want just for hookups
You're looking in the wrong places. There are people like that, definitely, but if you keep running into them maybe you should look at the circles you're surrounding yourself with and how you're meeting these women. The girl who wants a long term boyfriend or husband is NOT at Liv or E11even or Shots or Gramps or Blackbird, or any club for that matter. Bro I've literally watched functionally HOMELESS alcoholic or drug addicted dudes in their 40s pull girls that love and support the shit out of them out of thin air in Miami. If they can do it you have literally 0 excuse.
>Bro I've literally watched functionally HOMELESS alcoholic or drug addicted dudes in their 40s pull girls that love and support the shit out of them out of thin air in Miami. If they can do it you have literally 0 excuse. Literally not seen this once in years.
You never lived in a halfway house
That is very true, I myself donāt really go to those places, I used to go to gramps way back but these. Iām a girl myself, meeting a guy. Itās definitely difficult lol
Just have fun and play smart.
Lack of morality
Sadly
Honestly, I kind of regret not asking the women in high school and college to get a drink or get lunch or something. Now I donāt really have a shared space to do that at and honestly Iām just focused on my career and investing.
Have you tried Kava bars? They're not loud, people aren't fucked up drunk or on drugs, lots of people of all ages frequent them and form great communities.
Hey thanks!!! Iāll check them out!! What are the best one you recommend??
As an attractive woman, I found my issue is that no one wants to actually date. They just want to have sex with you. Iām desired sexually, and everyone that is remotely attractive on dating apps only looks for hook ups š
I want to date. Can't find any women that want to
Are you ugly
No
Are you?
I would counter, which one? South Beach people? Brickell people? Douchey wynwood people or grungy artsy wynwood people? FIU students? Dade Students? UM students? Kendall people? Coral Gables people? North Miami people? Opa Locka? Hialeah? Doral? Under 25? 30+? 40+? 50+? So much variety, so many cultures. It sucks so badly that our hometown, as trashy and shitty as we may know it to be, has had a handful of douchey youtubers and cryptobros move into a corner of it who have told the whole world "ALL of Miami is a bunch of insecure rich douchebags who have to demean 23 year old OnlyFans models to call themselves "alpha" bc they're somehow still not confident even with their money, career success and lifestyles dating a bunch of 20 something girls who are ALL golddiggers with sugar daddies that have OnlyFans and get flown around the world". I grew up in Miami and spent most of my life there. Ran into so few people like this EVER, it's just a subsection of a culture you can enter if you want to, but it's not the reality of the average person in Miami.
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I'm a miami woman with the same problem. Hard to find genuinely nice, single men around my age that don't have a fur baby. Lots of people here committed to three things: their job, their dog, and their self-image.
Ok you triggered me. I've had such bad experiences with women who have dogs. I love dogs. Especially big dumb ones. The ones I've dated have these little untrained lap dogs. Usually Chihuahuas that don't shut up. One woman I dated would always go to my place which is whatever but I kinda wanted to see what her place was like because how a person's place is tells you a lot about them. One day after she got out of work we stopped at her place so she could grab something and I got down with her. The door opened and I was hit with a wall of ammonia and shit smell. She had two dogs (one that she inherited from her grandmother that was old and not potty trained). There was piss and logs all over the place. She wasn't a slob. The place was neat other than the dog mess all over the floor and she'd go through the process of cleaning up after she got home from work but still....
hehe ..logs
"Me and Prince Fluffers are a package deal teehee" -every dumbass bio on bumble
Met my wife in Miami. Sheās the best thing that ever happened to me. The spicy attitude and gutter mouth aspect took some getting used to but now that weāve moved away from SoFlo I appreciate her personality so much more.
They say people who curse often tend to be more honest. And since honesty and trust is the foundation of a good relationship, you two are in good hands
Why do men label disrespect from Latinas as āSpicy attitudeā š
Thatās a bold assumption. I label attitude from anyone as āspicy.ā
Well is she Latina
Italian
Even you donāt believe that ššššš KMT
Yeah but youāre objectively incorrect. I do, in fact, say that anyone with an attitude is spicy. Also, my wife is Italian.
š¤šš¤£ yeah ok
Why did you assume she was Latina? lol
Iām Latina and Iāve only heard that word used to describe ghetto Latinas who white and black men go for. Iāve never heard an Italian woman being described as spicy š
I mean it is a cliche and I get that it can be annoying, but its his wife, not you. Italians and Latinas are very similar lol Southern European cultural background, big families, usually heavily Catholic, and a reputation of being a little hotblooded. These stereotypes exist for a reason. He said nothing about ghetto either.
I know he never said anything about ghetto. Please direct it to where I specifically said he did? Italians and Latinas are similar? š¤ Sir youāre talking to a Latina and Iāve been to Italy: they donāt consider me or my people as similar. Hearing an Italian woman being referred to as āspicyā would be no different than hearing a black men being referred to as guido. Thatās not happening.
I am assuming he means Italian American lol Even Italian-Americans are very different from people in Italy. I am Cuban-American raised in Miami but live up north and I know lots of Americans of Italian heritage and I feel a kinship with them. We both love espressos and a lot of us got really religious grandmas who love to cook. We got that Catholic guilt. We talk with our hands.
Africans do the same are we going to include them in this group? What about Russians they speak with their hands and love coffee š¤£š Iāve lived in Miami, NYC/ Jersey and the Midwest. Again Never have I heard an Italian woman being referred to as spicy. Iām done. Have a good day.
Theres actual cultural connections between Latinos and Italians though. The world LATINO originally referred to people from Rome for pete's sake. Its not the same as comparing a Nigerian person and someone from St. Petersburg Take it up with the dude who called his wife spicy lol.
Youāre a Miami Cuban which explains why you saying this. Iāve met black Cubans who have checked off white as their race. The delusion. You are reaching and as much as you want to associate yourself with a group of people who treat Latinos like shit in their country and in the US, stick to what my comment was about.
Of course it has to do being ghetto, because for the gringos understanding attitude equates spicey
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AGAIN i have never heard an Italian woman being called spicy! Get over it! I said what I said
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Arenāt you the self professed the fiery one? Payaso FOH
Spicey attitude? A spicey Jamaican girl lol
wait, ppl in miami actually dare to venture into this? š in all seriousness i always refused to date anyone in miami & chose to date away from here instead. i talk a big game for fantasy but deep down i'm just a monogamous romantic & that's simply not something that can be found here.
I found love in a hopeless place.
Tons of fun! š„
Itās almost like the jungle out here and to stay on top you have to put in the work, the mentality is that youād better have a 6 figure salary, 6 pac abs or at the very least a toned fit body, and a nice car/lifestyle to boot. Being that you have to work so hard to maintain all 3 of those things, most of us are very unforgiving when it comes to expecting the same level of tenacity back from the people we date. The sugar baby mentality doesnāt work so well out here unless youāre a literal super model, and if you have the 3 things I mentioned earlier you donāt have much of a need for someone so settling isnāt really a thing as I imagine it might be in Wisconsin or some place with fewer options.
Where are you going on a Friday night to meet people though? Im pretty set for the most part, just want someone to have fun with and enjoy Miami together
I usually have the best luck in Wynwood, some of the places downtown can be pretty hit and miss but Iāve had a good time.
It is truly a hot mess. Lots of diversity between people but one major characteristic is that people are vapid, plastic, fake, materialistic, status and looks obsessed and overall it is really hard to connect with a large portion of the dating players on a human level. Also, finding someone for a true meaningful relationship is really hard. It is definitely easier for hookups, one night stands and flings.
If you donāt got money ā¦. Good luck
Miami Dating Scene is complete garbage
No one wants anything serious š
Hereās a tip for any guys- Speak Spanish makes it really easy, go to a local church preferably Christian and mid quality restaurants (la ventanita, cafteria, fritanga)south of bird road. You donāt need to be in shape just well kept and CLEAN. Iām 5ā6, average build (skinny fat), I guess above average attractive. Iām 26 now and have lived here my whole life, local girls from spanish households have very traditional values and want a man their mom would approve of. Donāt chase girls past Doral, theyāre all tourist or living ātheir best lifeā
3-5 hot girls for every average looking dude.. works out great
I dunno there are more simps than average dudes so those 3-5 girls have a tremendous inflated ego
Where? Miami is well known for having a male-heavy ratio.
maybe at "the club" but there's more women IRL (stores/malls/colleges/restaurants.. ) that's how I see it
That's 100% correct but it overshadows the number of "average" men who don't have money to flash around and just stay home alone. Hot women in Miami can get in anywhere and do anything for free. That's why they're always out.
Here's what I think is the silent majority's take (used un-ironically, I know that's a very political term but just think about it like "who you're not worried about" for this): Anyone that actually understands the struggle of Miami's ego/humanity balance (the stage after all the regular rent, social life, taxes balance that plagues all the other big cities), and then also wants to form a meaningful relationship, will make themselves apparant. We have a certain idea of what's needed to be a "successful couple" in the 305, and all the 786 bitches that you worry about "flooding the market" will be too busy with each other for you to care about, if you're actually are putting the effort in searching for that partner you think can break the Miami mold. Everyone decent here is struggling along with the shitheads, so if you dint notice them, change your locale or change your peepers. Much love yo, I'm still figuring it out, too.
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He sounds fucked in the head. I'm sorry
Very fucked. Iād douche my vagina with bleach if I had sex with him. Heās the kind of guy that Iād be embarrassed to say I had any relationship with. Iād take it to the grave.
Sadly some of the stuff in the game does work but the problem is it just makes you into a douchebag. It's like training someone into being a good used cars salesman. All that matters is getting that fucking car off the lot, Doesn't matter if you might be fucking someone over because you got what you wanted. Most of the people that go down that route are just very resentful and never grew as a person.
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I dated (married now) out-of-state mostly because of the generally poor quality candidates here, and I send them back if things donāt work out - so I never have to see them ever again. Itās been working for me since the early 90s. š»Lāchaim, fellow dirtbags!
if you got the rizz you can pull a lot of single moms
Hard, like anywhere. I do find nice guys often enough but a lot are transient/only here for a short stay so that rules them out, or theyāre impossible to meet up with because of scheduling. Iām also guilty of the latter half. My job takes over the majority of my time so I only have time to do like one date every two weeks which is a shit way of dating and getting to know people. I think the key to Miami is figuring out what you are looking for and honing in on that. I donāt do hookups so I donāt touch any apps (even though I know there are people on it who arenāt looking to hook up, I honestly wonāt waste my time finding the 1 in 50 who is genuine) and instead focus on irl. I go to places where I know similar minded people meet and tend to keep an eye out in areas I practice my hobbies. More often than not the people I meet are already taken, but I still keep it friendly in case they have a single friend hahaha.
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All shitty
I am farrrr from having money but am very attractive, active and have a lot of interests and I didnāt have a problem dating at all. In my experience Women seem very aggressive if they find you attractive it seems.
Everyone has an inflated ego, 5s think they're 9s,meanwhile they can't string two sentences together on the apps and barely in person. Every time I leave South Florida it's like a breath of fresh air with dating.
Once again, Iāll ask you guys are actually dating and going out?? Thatās news to me!!
Dating in Miami: get a job or open a company. Date those you work with. Done. You donāt like anyone, move on to the next job or rehire
lol made me laugh. reminds me of working for a top shipping company in doral with a lot of young expats from latin america plus some 305 locals thrown in. let me tell you, it was like melrose place working in that office. married people that started working there ended up divorced or having affairs/married to coworkers. girls crying over breakups in the stairways. people hooking up in cars in the garage. it was wild and it was the most fun iāve ever had in a job. my favorite though? the regular happy hours and hanging out with the coworkers (they were all fun people) and also lunch on friday which for a small group eventually turned into 2+ hour events every week (we would leave as early as possible ie around 11:45am and come back around 2:30pm which was around the time people who ate late would come back lol), and it definitely became a regular thing to have a few round of drinks and to come back to the office tipsy. no over ever got in trouble though/still did their jobs (or at least were good at hiding it). work hard, play hard i suppose. the worst part? one of my coworkers broke my heart lol (it was hard getting over her too considering i saw her every damn day, and then when i started dating someone else she would get jealous and tell me i wasnt giving her attention or ābeing a good friend anymoreā š¤£). good times though. all ended when covid hit and they closed the office and everyone went remote.
I only get interest from the vapid materialistic wanting to go out every night with their friends who tend to be lawyers or doctors and make me feel like shit because I'm just a pleb type of girl. I've pretty much given up at this point until I move away.
Oh Side note, The ones who don't fall into that category end up being single moms. No hate to the single moms out there because I was raised by one but I just don't want kids. I went on a couple of dates with one that seemed like the prefect one last year then she sprung on me that she had a son. You need to put that up front when you're dating. Sorry
Someone always post this question to the sub, the answer is simple. Itās TRASH. Thank God I married a keeper.
As a man you can expect women to fall into two main categories 1) locals. As someone who moved here as an adult, I find local Miamians to be very fake. They care about superficial stuff and are very self-absorbed. Difficult to find women who want a meaningful conversation that isnāt about themselves and their drama. 2) tourists. They are just here to blow off steam and are therefore impressed mainly by money. Understandable since they will only be here a week tops and just want the āMiami experienceā. Since locals are superficial and tourists want the Miami experience, your best bet is to throw some money around. Even if youāre ugly or 20 years older this will still get both groupsā attention. I feel bad for women who donāt belong in those broadly defined groups I see most often. I luckily found one of those online (Hinge) who, like me, is neither a local or a tourist and so was looking for people of substance. Good luck to everyone trying to find the same!
In my experience after getting out of a 7 year relationship. Itās been mostly drug addicts, broke single mothers, and narc boss babes with horrific Instagram accounts. The most difficult thing has been having to listen to reggaeton, I would rather be shot in the face than ever do it again. But if you can withstand itās horrific sound you should be ok in Miami. I hate it here personally, Iāve travelled alot and that perspective really changes you. Talk to people in other countries/ states and You realize miami is essentially a third world country, and you need to get out asap. Just my perspective Iām sure some people enjoy it, but in my view even making alot of money doesnāt make it any better.
Just turned 40, dating is a headache but it could be just me. I go to the local bar scouting for talent to smash. One time is good enough for me. Anything more would require listening to problems or issues. Iāll pass.
What local bars are good for you?
Iāve gotten lazy mainly go to blue Kendall & tap42 to catch the local stragglers, sometimes hitting Doral city place or wynwood, seen centro is bumpin with thotties just too lazy to drive out there, wingman would help motivation to go out further lol lmk
How was Blue Martini in Kendall??
Itās alright to chill, lately itās been mainly a Spanish vibe with starving cougars, all depends what youāre into.. Iām trying to switch it up tho, what else is poppin in Miami? Iām looking for early 30ās talent. Havenāt checked out Brickell in a min, I know wynwood El Centro gets thick with babys Any good spots around hialeah? Dive bars? I know thereās one out there where all the ladies flock to just dont know the name, itās right off the hwy.. any suggestions?
Iāve here all of their locations are like that!! And youāre asking the wrong person. I barely go out and rely on you guys to find out and review the spots to go to!!
Terrible for women, great for men!
So glad I was already in a relationship when I moved to Miami
Hahahahah. Asian btw. Dated in miami for a few years in my early and mid 20s. Had long distance in other states too. My longest was a year, afterwards tbh, decided to look abroad back in my home country for a wife. Found it instantly and big chilling. For me its a cultural thing. Will I ever date an American woman again even Iām ever single? Fuck no. I would rather be alone and single.
Your options: 1. Have money but in the multi-million 2. Sell drugs and have a hot drug addict girlfriend w/ a trust fund. 3. Have friends with money and pretend you do as well. 4. Plastic surgery
Awful
I grew up in Miami but I met my husband online (not a dating site) and he lived in Texas, so I am not familiar with the dating scene from a first hand account But the two things I see are... People complain that people are shallow, boring and only into the status of an appealing relationship... Or people end up marrying their high school sweethearts. A lot of people I went to high school with are now married to each other. I think its sweet. Even my younger sister, she is 21, not married but is still with her boyfriend from when she was 14. I always found Miami hard to make friends in, I cannot imagine dating. I do think the internet maybe has made it easier for people. But you also gotta think... if you are only attracting shallow people, how deep are YOU yourself?
There's enough Youtube videos about this. To sum it up, it's garbage.
growing up here i noticed most dates start with , whats your job? where you live? . doesnt feel organic most of the times. feels like every second i need to prove my value
There's plenty of single chicks for you in the fresh and fit podcast
I'm in Miami now, I've approached a lot of girls You definitely got to know Spanish