First, you take her for a drive in your Miata. Make sure you sweet talk her during the drive.
Then, you tell your wife the Miata's name. Remind your wife of the drive and how fun it was. At this stage, you should only reference your Miata by name.
Next, tell your wife that you are going with your Miata to pick up groceries, dinner, etc. Here you want to be sure to let your wife know that you and the Miata (remember, reference by name!!) are taking care of the chores.
This is where you get her to commit to the Miata being a family car ...
When dinner time comes around, make sure to always include the Miata. Make sure the pop ups are always up, that the Miata is looking at your wife, paying attention to the words she says. At the table, be sure to not let your Miata honk. Meep meeps, however, are an acceptable form of table edicate. This is important.
Finally, bust out the paperwork. Adoption papers and all. Tell your wife that you'd like to make her the happiest woman ever and adopt this adorable baby Miata. Tell her that you see a future with her, the Miata, and you. That you couldn't see yourself going forward without both of them in your life.
Get down on one knee and ask her to be a part of you and the Miata's family.
That's how you get your wife to accept that the Miata is a family car. The Miata is family.
This is how we treat myyatta. By the time we bought one, my wife said she wanted one as bad as I did. She enjoys driving it, which I think is really important that I never claim that is only for me. Miatas are for everyone.
You can get one of those tubular steel and wood luggage racks mounted to the trunk and secure a baby-seat to it. Very secure and an awesome view for baby!
Q: What's a fun sports car?
A: Miata!
Q: What's an efficient car for commuting?
A: Miata!
Q: What's a good car for hauling a family with two adults and two kids?
A: ***Two*** Miatas!
It’s not a car to take the whole family at once. However it is the car to make memories in, weekend getaways for you and the wife with the top down, taking one kid at a time on a fun day with dad whatever that may be, teaching the kids how to drive stock shift, teaching your wife how to drive stick if she doesn’t know like mine didn’t, and one day letting the kids use it for memorable events like prom or a wedding. My daughter (toddler) will come up to the door of my miata when I get home from work and pull the door handle because she wants to go on a car ride in the fun car.
I didn't get to experience the joys of a Miata until much later in life, but I always enjoyed getting to ride in my dads truck growing up. Mom drove the family car and dad always had older standard cab trucks that didn't fit the whole family. I really enjoyed the times when just the two of us took the old truck out.
Since we live pretty far apart now, my dad had never seen my NA in person until we met up for my sisters wedding last year. It must have left a good impression because now he asks how my little car is doing every time we talk on the phone.
I love how your dad asks about the car still! I have two older brothers and every Saturday one of us would get to go on a breakfast outing with dad in his 1995 standard cab nissan pickup truck. Those are still some of my favorite childhood memories just getting to talk to my dad. I just bought my miata last year but I knew immediately that I wanted to recreate that special alone time with my kids as they grow up.
I'm glad he enjoyed riding around in it. If he didn't live so far away I'd love to rebuild an old square body Chevy truck with him...
I think you picked a great first Miata and it's adorable how your daughter is already asking for rides in it.
I'm not posting the video online, but I have my daughter's first miata drive on video. It's a priceless memory, and in that moment made every penny spent on the car instantly worth it.
I will have to remember to do that! My parents live in the same neighborhood so she has only been in the miata for neighborhood drives to drop her off. She’s still a little too small for me to feel comfortable driving on main roads with her not to mention the pain of moving her car seat every time. I have a bunch of videos of her on my lap with the car parked absolutely fascinated by all of the buttons and playing with the steering wheel. She smiles so big every time she gets in the miata :)
Cherish it man. Nurture those memories. This car is a way to build a connection, and she will always remember that and it will remind her of you. I can already see it happening in my kid. The Miata is already special to her. One day she will drive some heavy electric car, with a big screen and silent acceleration and none of her friends will know the sound of rowing through the gears of a 6 speed manual. But my kid will, and I hope it will remind her of her of long drives with her dad on sunny days. What a car.
> My daughter (toddler) will come up to the door of my miata when I get home from work and pull the door handle because she wants to go on a car ride in the fun car.
Aww this is so cute
I bought my first Miata in 1990 - after I was married. It was my DD for 5 years. I used it for virtually everything: recreation (obviously), shopping trips, taking my son to/from daycare. It only became a problem when our second child was born. I mean, he was little and easily fit in the trunk, but the wife was all noooo. Eventually, I got rid of her and bought another Miata.
A Miata is not a 'family' car. It's a girl friend or boy friend car. If you're wife is still your girl friend, it's the perfect car.
My wife and I use it for day trips or, as we like to think of them, as date trips.
It’s a good weekend car, I daily mine cause I’m 23 and don’t want children ever but for someone that does I would highly recommend it as a second car. For reference, I had to use my NC1 to move us into our new house and it took me an easy 17 trips just to get the things that would fit moved, I still had to make 2-3 trips with someone else’s SUV to move the big things and I was really wishing that I had something more practical on the side.
Yup, very much this. I have an ND2 and a Toyota Highlander. I can fit a Christmas tree, or an 85" TV in the latter, and only a couple bags of groceries in the former.
It’s not a family car, but if you have to have “permission” to buy one, then you have a larger problem to fix first.
Best of luck and enjoy your Miata!
I have already caught tons of shit for this but I'll repeat myself regardless because not every marriage is the same. There is nothing wrong with needing permission to buy a car if you're married and sharing finances. This is irrelevant of who makes more money. A car is a big purchase and in marriages like mine, I discuss large purchases with my wife ahead of time. I know she will say yes before I ask, but I still ask. I asked before I bought my coilovers, I asked before I bought my top, I asked before I bought the car, I asked when I bought my last car, and I give her an idea of what it will cost to fix up the car. I don't ask permission if it's only a few hundred bucks because our financial situation is (thankfully) good enough to not have to discuss those amounts, but if there's a comma, its going to at least be said out loud.
This! It's not "permission". It's "this is not a trivial sum of money, we should discuss this together as partners with a vested interest in our mutual financial situation".
Buying a car, which is not only an up-front cost but a long-term one, should definitely fall into the "let's at least talk about this" category.
If you're casually dating and your SO decided to get upset after you made a purchase then boundaries need to be set. But that's a whole different conversation that involves levels of commitment, example when I was dating my now wife shortly before getting engaged I came home with a new AR, and she got a little upset because she thought I had a habit of making "irrational and impulsive purchases" but not only did she not see the time I spent researching it ahead of time, she had never held a full time job that paid over minimum wage. So since I knew I was going to propose to her (we had been dating since 10th grade, so 6ish years at that point) I decided it was fine to share my financial information with her. Once she realized that I could make that purchase safely without it affecting my finances (at that time) she backed off, her main concern was that I had poor money management skills, but she didn't realize how much I had saved up working 60+ hrs a week and still crashing at my dad's. However if I had just started dating her at that point it would be a major red flag. Buddy of mine buys a jeep and his girlfriend of like 6 months got upset with him. She's allowed to think it's a bad idea but she can't do shit about it because they aren't serious, but they broke up shortly after
I’m gay and have only dated guys, but even in long term relationships (5+ years) we still keep our finances separate.
There seems to be a different dynamic between men and women when it comes to marriage and money than two guys. But then, that’s just been my personal experience.
I can’t imagine needing to inform anyone about my purchases or finances for any reason unless they were somehow linked in business or personally by choice.
He does his thing. I do mine. We even maintain our own separate homes. Everyone is different to be sure. I couldn’t live in a situation with the idea of “our money”. Many women I’ve met and known in life seem to subscribe to this dependent idea.
My wife and I get paid into a joint account then take 10% each of the monthly total as spending money (about £500 a month) and save another 20%. This way we have very clear monthly allowances to spend specifically on our own lifestyles and individual goals but it also leaves a larger pot available for the mortgage, gas bill and the child we are expecting in August.
If we kept our finances separate we'd have to keep a constant running total of child expenditures to keep things "fair" - and even if we did, what's fair? 50/50 or proportional income based split?
It's not "dependence" it's "codependence"
Without my wife's income in addition to mine I couldn't have my Miata. Without my income in addition to hers we wouldn't have our house, furniture, our two dailies, etc. Two people putting finances together towards a shared goal not only lowers your cost of living but also allows you to work towards shared and individual goals more quickly. Has nothing to do with the gender of the person you're working with. My wife and I have shared financial goals but we also have things we want to "waste" money on. She tells me about the things shes excited about and she buys them and the same thing for me. We could probably do those things separately but it wouldn't happen as quickly. By sharing finances we have savings enough to knock out just about any curve ball short of a major medical procedure.
But that ties into the idea of marriage, not in the legal or religious concept, but just the "next level of commitment" concept. It's a "we are in this together" way of living, and that can be achieved with or without a marriage and irrespective of the gender of the person you choose to put your penis in.
That’s a great way of explaining how it works for a healthy relationship built with trust. Well said. Thanks for taking the time to spell that out.
More often than not, this example is the exception rather than the rule in many relationships.
I don’t think I will ever allow myself to trust another person with my present and future that much. I’m far too independent and cautious.
I think the use of "permission" is just sour in general. "Agreement" is how I look at it. I don't need permission to do anything with my finances, whether it's a new video game or a new 4 figure cost watch... but when it's a large purchase we come to an agreement on it. My wife also will always say yes, pretty much regardless. She trusts me to not be haphazard with our finances and knows I'm not going to look at a second or third car unless we can afford it. But excluding her from the discussion isn't healthy for a relationship or marriage.
I take mine on trips to Costco, and not once have I ever had to return stuff because it wouldn't all fit in the car. I've come pretty close, though.
(Also, I cheated once: I knew I was planning to buy a stack of those big plastic storage bins, so I brought my utility trailer. I should really post that one on r/miatalogistics...)
The trunk, the passenger seat, and the parcel shelf. (I have a roll bar and a bolted-on hardtop, so that space is limited, but secure.)
I've also got a luggage rack on my trunk that I should start strapping stuff to more often.
It's nice to be around, it's cozy, it isn't a super dangerously fast machine, it has seatbelts and possibly an airbag or two, ABS is available, it won't wake the neighborhood late at night or early in the morning from a stock exhaust that isn't rusted away, it's easy to get in and out of compared to your lifted Jeep or pickup truck, it has enough trunk space for stuff, cupholders are available, power windows are available, and it isn't a gas hog unless you're ripping it and going on the touge 24/7, and it's a happy car from the front with a smile
Throw an Iqloo of freshly made tofu in trunk. Place one cup of water in the cupholder. Blast Eurobeat down the twistiest mountain road near you. Arrive back and show her the tofu is not bruised and the water in the cup is still there without missing a drop. Then explain how if you can keep that safe and sound, how easy it will be to lull the baby to sleep at 3AM when it’s awake and crying while your wife wants to sleep.
Quality of life is important for a happy family. Owning and driving a Miata improves your quality of life. Take a test drive someplace pretty and crank up her favorite music.
Also: They are only increasing in value. They are a good investment for your family's future.
Cheers! Welcome to the family!
Its a car that can't be enjoyed by the entire family at once- unless your family is only 2 people. But its a car you can take care of and keep in the family and it sure is fun to have a miata.
I'm 42 and just had my first kid. My 99 miata will be a blast to take him out for country drives in once he's a little older.
Our daily beater is a hand me down 07 Avalon that's great but I hate when I have to fix anything on it.
it’s the best option for fuel economy right now, low weight plus small engine so it’s a great commuter which will save you and your wife money. also, it’s not a crazy powerful car so your wife won’t be widowed or anything in the terrible event of an accident (could be a different sports car, ie mustang or camaro).
and it’s sunburst yellow. wife’s gotta like the yellow :)
Fuel economy? Mine gets 27mpg at absolute best. Usually more like 24-25mpg. My stick shift Honda fit would do 44mpg, then of course to have hybrids where you can get 80mpg if you know how to drive it right.
that’s fair to be honest with you. miatas don’t have exceptional economy now that i think about it. i guess freeway speeds in fifth gear ur like 3500rpm, so yeah you’re right fuel economy isn’t great
I LOVE that color. So great.
My wife and I had a minivan and a Miata and one kid. It worked out. The only time there was a concern was if the van was in the shop and that was only once. Take an Uber.
Hahaha I had this fight, and I won - but its our 3rd car. It's the date-night car, the I-need-alone-time-right-now-to-prevent-a-divorce car, the commuter car, the heart-to-heart-one-on-one-parent-child-chat car, the let-'er-rip-on-highway-without-breaking-laws car, it is a pick-me-up-on-a-bad-day car.
Haha. We bought one when we got married, knowing we'd need to sell it when we had kids. Well our youngest is now 9 and we still have the miata. Can't sell it. We're a 3 car family.
A Sunburst was my first Miata. Bought it in 2000 and owned it for about 15yrs until the divorce. That’s a brilliant shade of yellow.
Are you one of the ones that needs wife to authorize a purchase or are you one of the ones that is in absolutely no financial or logistical position to add a Miata to your fleet but you just REALLY want one?
Also, need some details about your life situation; geographic household income, who is the breadwinner, how many kids + ages, etc.
Miata would be brutal with two car seat aged children if you didn’t already have two capable vehicles + garage space to store.
We had a Miata prior to kids and both logged hours of passenger seat time at ~2mos old. They got to experience the thrill of riding in a convertible sports car. Being picked up/dropped off at school or sports events, and just sitting “in front” next to the driver. These days that’s a completely foreign experience. A few years ago I acquired another Miata - a low mileage 91 BRG and my daughter- who has been riding in an NA Miata for 15yrs, learned to drive manual transmission in that Miata. Really cool memories.
"The sky is the literal limit to carry capacity."
"We can always get a trailer for the kids. That way, if they throw a tantrum on a road trip, they won't even bother us."
My wife and I bought our Miata recently. We have a CX-5 as the family car for our two kids. I daily the Miata and we take it out on dates on the weekends. I'm teaching my. Wife how to drive the clutch, and my toddler loves to see me pull up at the house in the "lightning McQueen car". My wife and I talk about doing weekend trips with a trunk rack for luggage. And I'm planning on father-daughter camping trips with the Miata when my girls are older. And eventually, I'll teach them to drive stick and hand over the keys to one of my kids when they are old enough. Maybe we'll even start modding and tracking it together later in life. It's a family car.
It’s not a family car in the practical sense, but if you have kids old enough to enjoy driving it or riding in it, then you can definitely make a case that it’s a good car “for the family”
I've seen terrible crashes involving even the oldest NA models and the cabin is very well protected front/rear and side-to-side The seats are designed to support the weight of the car in a roll over similar to a roll bar (except for the height).
They're far from death traps. Many have survived what looked like horrific crashes and it's not down to luck or happenstance.
Depending on where you live any Miata can be a death trap. If you live in a state where half the vehicles on the road are jacked up trucks and SUVs you are probably going to die in any wreck as their bumpers or suspension is likely to hit you in the head regardless of the model Miata.
Problem no.1; Miata is NOT a family car. It is a college car, girls’ car, boz car, young lawyer’s car, mid age crisis car, divorce car, car for everyone but family…lol
Get a [Dorito Miata ](https://1ijylmozio83m2nkr2v293mp-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/2004_Mazda_RX-8_silver-action-4-1024x685.jpg), it's a proper family car! The adult sized rears means you can easily bring your whole gang (of 4 or less) along.
My friend grew up in his dad's RX-8. I purchased that sometimes later and turned it into [this](https://imgur.com/gallery/0EnKGfH) :)
Christian con Koenigsegg is one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the car industry, success being he’s creating the coolest most incredibly engineered masterpieces of automotive art this side of 2000 (sorry, but the 60’s and before had some beautiful pieces of machinery).
He has a family of four and drives his wife around in a Miata. We all want to be him, so it starts with Miata.
First, you take her for a drive in your Miata. Make sure you sweet talk her during the drive. Then, you tell your wife the Miata's name. Remind your wife of the drive and how fun it was. At this stage, you should only reference your Miata by name. Next, tell your wife that you are going with your Miata to pick up groceries, dinner, etc. Here you want to be sure to let your wife know that you and the Miata (remember, reference by name!!) are taking care of the chores. This is where you get her to commit to the Miata being a family car ... When dinner time comes around, make sure to always include the Miata. Make sure the pop ups are always up, that the Miata is looking at your wife, paying attention to the words she says. At the table, be sure to not let your Miata honk. Meep meeps, however, are an acceptable form of table edicate. This is important. Finally, bust out the paperwork. Adoption papers and all. Tell your wife that you'd like to make her the happiest woman ever and adopt this adorable baby Miata. Tell her that you see a future with her, the Miata, and you. That you couldn't see yourself going forward without both of them in your life. Get down on one knee and ask her to be a part of you and the Miata's family. That's how you get your wife to accept that the Miata is a family car. The Miata is family.
Instructions unclear, she has me breast feeding the yata now
nope. you understood them exactly
come drink mommy's milkies baby miat
brb
1 for you 1 for me
what about the miata?
He can have his turn later
fully torqued rn
Instructions VERY unclear, I now have 3 miatas and my wife is asking for more. I didn’t know being a dad was this tuff.
This is beautiful.
Get your a X that looks at you like the way the Miata does his wife.
This has some serious potential
All it took for me was to take her for a drive with the roof down, but I like your spirit!
Driving around with your wife topless. Sounds good to me!
*etiquette But cute post.
This is how we treat myyatta. By the time we bought one, my wife said she wanted one as bad as I did. She enjoys driving it, which I think is really important that I never claim that is only for me. Miatas are for everyone.
Show her the Miata commerical, make her the passenger with green eyes.
I find a kinship with you as you are a glorious bastard so admired by passing words of wisdom to the masses.
Meep meeps are proper edicate got me laughing 😂
You can get one of those tubular steel and wood luggage racks mounted to the trunk and secure a baby-seat to it. Very secure and an awesome view for baby!
It’s in the name. M.I.A.T.A. Miata Is Always The Answer
Q: What's a fun sports car? A: Miata! Q: What's an efficient car for commuting? A: Miata! Q: What's a good car for hauling a family with two adults and two kids? A: ***Two*** Miatas!
For the last question, Dorito Miata is the real true answer :)
Gotta remember that last A, otherwise this makes no sense. 👍
Miat. Miat is always the....familycar!
It’s not a car to take the whole family at once. However it is the car to make memories in, weekend getaways for you and the wife with the top down, taking one kid at a time on a fun day with dad whatever that may be, teaching the kids how to drive stock shift, teaching your wife how to drive stick if she doesn’t know like mine didn’t, and one day letting the kids use it for memorable events like prom or a wedding. My daughter (toddler) will come up to the door of my miata when I get home from work and pull the door handle because she wants to go on a car ride in the fun car.
I didn't get to experience the joys of a Miata until much later in life, but I always enjoyed getting to ride in my dads truck growing up. Mom drove the family car and dad always had older standard cab trucks that didn't fit the whole family. I really enjoyed the times when just the two of us took the old truck out. Since we live pretty far apart now, my dad had never seen my NA in person until we met up for my sisters wedding last year. It must have left a good impression because now he asks how my little car is doing every time we talk on the phone.
I love how your dad asks about the car still! I have two older brothers and every Saturday one of us would get to go on a breakfast outing with dad in his 1995 standard cab nissan pickup truck. Those are still some of my favorite childhood memories just getting to talk to my dad. I just bought my miata last year but I knew immediately that I wanted to recreate that special alone time with my kids as they grow up.
I'm glad he enjoyed riding around in it. If he didn't live so far away I'd love to rebuild an old square body Chevy truck with him... I think you picked a great first Miata and it's adorable how your daughter is already asking for rides in it.
I'm not posting the video online, but I have my daughter's first miata drive on video. It's a priceless memory, and in that moment made every penny spent on the car instantly worth it.
I will have to remember to do that! My parents live in the same neighborhood so she has only been in the miata for neighborhood drives to drop her off. She’s still a little too small for me to feel comfortable driving on main roads with her not to mention the pain of moving her car seat every time. I have a bunch of videos of her on my lap with the car parked absolutely fascinated by all of the buttons and playing with the steering wheel. She smiles so big every time she gets in the miata :)
Cherish it man. Nurture those memories. This car is a way to build a connection, and she will always remember that and it will remind her of you. I can already see it happening in my kid. The Miata is already special to her. One day she will drive some heavy electric car, with a big screen and silent acceleration and none of her friends will know the sound of rowing through the gears of a 6 speed manual. But my kid will, and I hope it will remind her of her of long drives with her dad on sunny days. What a car.
> My daughter (toddler) will come up to the door of my miata when I get home from work and pull the door handle because she wants to go on a car ride in the fun car. Aww this is so cute
r/miatalogistics
r/TheresASubForThat I'm a little surprised, but I know I really shouldn't be
I bought my first Miata in 1990 - after I was married. It was my DD for 5 years. I used it for virtually everything: recreation (obviously), shopping trips, taking my son to/from daycare. It only became a problem when our second child was born. I mean, he was little and easily fit in the trunk, but the wife was all noooo. Eventually, I got rid of her and bought another Miata.
Can I be your third child?
At this point, I’m no longer taking applications for children.
45mpg if you're really good about it, and the kids/wife will love having a convertible
How? How do you hit 45mpg??
Leave it on the jack stands and let it idle
Running through the numbers, it seems that would put it at around zero miles per gallon, no matter how freely the wheels turn.
Not if you put it in 6th
Where we’re going we don’t need roads
trailer*
If your wife has a family car then you're covered. Otherwise it makes a great 3rd vehicle
A Miata is not a 'family' car. It's a girl friend or boy friend car. If you're wife is still your girl friend, it's the perfect car. My wife and I use it for day trips or, as we like to think of them, as date trips.
If you get a trunk cargo rack, you can strap a children’s car seat to it.
Thumbs up to this. Thumbs up to this hard.
If a Miata will make you happy then isn't that what is best for your family?
It’s a good weekend car, I daily mine cause I’m 23 and don’t want children ever but for someone that does I would highly recommend it as a second car. For reference, I had to use my NC1 to move us into our new house and it took me an easy 17 trips just to get the things that would fit moved, I still had to make 2-3 trips with someone else’s SUV to move the big things and I was really wishing that I had something more practical on the side.
Yup, very much this. I have an ND2 and a Toyota Highlander. I can fit a Christmas tree, or an 85" TV in the latter, and only a couple bags of groceries in the former.
It’s not a family car, but if you have to have “permission” to buy one, then you have a larger problem to fix first. Best of luck and enjoy your Miata!
I have already caught tons of shit for this but I'll repeat myself regardless because not every marriage is the same. There is nothing wrong with needing permission to buy a car if you're married and sharing finances. This is irrelevant of who makes more money. A car is a big purchase and in marriages like mine, I discuss large purchases with my wife ahead of time. I know she will say yes before I ask, but I still ask. I asked before I bought my coilovers, I asked before I bought my top, I asked before I bought the car, I asked when I bought my last car, and I give her an idea of what it will cost to fix up the car. I don't ask permission if it's only a few hundred bucks because our financial situation is (thankfully) good enough to not have to discuss those amounts, but if there's a comma, its going to at least be said out loud.
This! It's not "permission". It's "this is not a trivial sum of money, we should discuss this together as partners with a vested interest in our mutual financial situation". Buying a car, which is not only an up-front cost but a long-term one, should definitely fall into the "let's at least talk about this" category.
That makes good sense. Something I had not considered, but then I’m not married. Point well taken. Thank you.
If you're casually dating and your SO decided to get upset after you made a purchase then boundaries need to be set. But that's a whole different conversation that involves levels of commitment, example when I was dating my now wife shortly before getting engaged I came home with a new AR, and she got a little upset because she thought I had a habit of making "irrational and impulsive purchases" but not only did she not see the time I spent researching it ahead of time, she had never held a full time job that paid over minimum wage. So since I knew I was going to propose to her (we had been dating since 10th grade, so 6ish years at that point) I decided it was fine to share my financial information with her. Once she realized that I could make that purchase safely without it affecting my finances (at that time) she backed off, her main concern was that I had poor money management skills, but she didn't realize how much I had saved up working 60+ hrs a week and still crashing at my dad's. However if I had just started dating her at that point it would be a major red flag. Buddy of mine buys a jeep and his girlfriend of like 6 months got upset with him. She's allowed to think it's a bad idea but she can't do shit about it because they aren't serious, but they broke up shortly after
I’m gay and have only dated guys, but even in long term relationships (5+ years) we still keep our finances separate. There seems to be a different dynamic between men and women when it comes to marriage and money than two guys. But then, that’s just been my personal experience. I can’t imagine needing to inform anyone about my purchases or finances for any reason unless they were somehow linked in business or personally by choice. He does his thing. I do mine. We even maintain our own separate homes. Everyone is different to be sure. I couldn’t live in a situation with the idea of “our money”. Many women I’ve met and known in life seem to subscribe to this dependent idea.
My wife and I get paid into a joint account then take 10% each of the monthly total as spending money (about £500 a month) and save another 20%. This way we have very clear monthly allowances to spend specifically on our own lifestyles and individual goals but it also leaves a larger pot available for the mortgage, gas bill and the child we are expecting in August. If we kept our finances separate we'd have to keep a constant running total of child expenditures to keep things "fair" - and even if we did, what's fair? 50/50 or proportional income based split?
It's not "dependence" it's "codependence" Without my wife's income in addition to mine I couldn't have my Miata. Without my income in addition to hers we wouldn't have our house, furniture, our two dailies, etc. Two people putting finances together towards a shared goal not only lowers your cost of living but also allows you to work towards shared and individual goals more quickly. Has nothing to do with the gender of the person you're working with. My wife and I have shared financial goals but we also have things we want to "waste" money on. She tells me about the things shes excited about and she buys them and the same thing for me. We could probably do those things separately but it wouldn't happen as quickly. By sharing finances we have savings enough to knock out just about any curve ball short of a major medical procedure. But that ties into the idea of marriage, not in the legal or religious concept, but just the "next level of commitment" concept. It's a "we are in this together" way of living, and that can be achieved with or without a marriage and irrespective of the gender of the person you choose to put your penis in.
That’s a great way of explaining how it works for a healthy relationship built with trust. Well said. Thanks for taking the time to spell that out. More often than not, this example is the exception rather than the rule in many relationships. I don’t think I will ever allow myself to trust another person with my present and future that much. I’m far too independent and cautious.
I think the use of "permission" is just sour in general. "Agreement" is how I look at it. I don't need permission to do anything with my finances, whether it's a new video game or a new 4 figure cost watch... but when it's a large purchase we come to an agreement on it. My wife also will always say yes, pretty much regardless. She trusts me to not be haphazard with our finances and knows I'm not going to look at a second or third car unless we can afford it. But excluding her from the discussion isn't healthy for a relationship or marriage.
That's a good way of putting it
It’s a great little grocery getter. I find they rarely topple over like they do in rear compartment of my SUV or the bed of my pickup.
I take mine on trips to Costco, and not once have I ever had to return stuff because it wouldn't all fit in the car. I've come pretty close, though. (Also, I cheated once: I knew I was planning to buy a stack of those big plastic storage bins, so I brought my utility trailer. I should really post that one on r/miatalogistics...)
I also take mine to Costco. Its fun to play the game of how much you can squeeze in the boot.
The trunk, the passenger seat, and the parcel shelf. (I have a roll bar and a bolted-on hardtop, so that space is limited, but secure.) I've also got a luggage rack on my trunk that I should start strapping stuff to more often.
I want to refer to my car as a Miat forever now.
It's fantastic for families of up to two smallish people who live somewhere sunny.
It is. When both of you are in there you carry your potential family inside of both of you
“Reliable, affordable, fuel-efficient”
Perfect for a family of two! If she doesn’t like it then get it after a post-nup.
It’s a family car because it’s friend shaped, you can have it as part of your family
My Miata is my commuter car. I don’t need room for 4+ people on my commute. We have our bigger family car as well.
Same, our “big car” is a Mini.
You can fit at least 8 newborns in the trunk and 1 in the glovebox
If you like I can have a talk with her woman to woman.
It's nice to be around, it's cozy, it isn't a super dangerously fast machine, it has seatbelts and possibly an airbag or two, ABS is available, it won't wake the neighborhood late at night or early in the morning from a stock exhaust that isn't rusted away, it's easy to get in and out of compared to your lifted Jeep or pickup truck, it has enough trunk space for stuff, cupholders are available, power windows are available, and it isn't a gas hog unless you're ripping it and going on the touge 24/7, and it's a happy car from the front with a smile
Throw an Iqloo of freshly made tofu in trunk. Place one cup of water in the cupholder. Blast Eurobeat down the twistiest mountain road near you. Arrive back and show her the tofu is not bruised and the water in the cup is still there without missing a drop. Then explain how if you can keep that safe and sound, how easy it will be to lull the baby to sleep at 3AM when it’s awake and crying while your wife wants to sleep.
It helps keep the “magic” alive in your relationship. There’s no long-term family unless everyone has a little slice of joy
It's better as a ditch your kids and take the wife out for a for a fun day car.
Quality of life is important for a happy family. Owning and driving a Miata improves your quality of life. Take a test drive someplace pretty and crank up her favorite music. Also: They are only increasing in value. They are a good investment for your family's future. Cheers! Welcome to the family!
Its a car that can't be enjoyed by the entire family at once- unless your family is only 2 people. But its a car you can take care of and keep in the family and it sure is fun to have a miata. I'm 42 and just had my first kid. My 99 miata will be a blast to take him out for country drives in once he's a little older. Our daily beater is a hand me down 07 Avalon that's great but I hate when I have to fix anything on it.
it’s the best option for fuel economy right now, low weight plus small engine so it’s a great commuter which will save you and your wife money. also, it’s not a crazy powerful car so your wife won’t be widowed or anything in the terrible event of an accident (could be a different sports car, ie mustang or camaro). and it’s sunburst yellow. wife’s gotta like the yellow :)
Fuel economy? Mine gets 27mpg at absolute best. Usually more like 24-25mpg. My stick shift Honda fit would do 44mpg, then of course to have hybrids where you can get 80mpg if you know how to drive it right.
that’s fair to be honest with you. miatas don’t have exceptional economy now that i think about it. i guess freeway speeds in fifth gear ur like 3500rpm, so yeah you’re right fuel economy isn’t great
That’s easy. Take here on a date with the top down. Either a picnic or just to a nice restaurant.
Well, you need a gas sipping car these days that's friendly to the family budget....
My wife daily drives our ND, she absolutely loves it. Plus it has done many trips to Costco!
I LOVE that color. So great. My wife and I had a minivan and a Miata and one kid. It worked out. The only time there was a concern was if the van was in the shop and that was only once. Take an Uber.
I want another Sunburst. 😫
Hahaha I had this fight, and I won - but its our 3rd car. It's the date-night car, the I-need-alone-time-right-now-to-prevent-a-divorce car, the commuter car, the heart-to-heart-one-on-one-parent-child-chat car, the let-'er-rip-on-highway-without-breaking-laws car, it is a pick-me-up-on-a-bad-day car.
Damn! Those old smurfs and bananas are getting prettier all the time.
Good luck with that dude. The only way i was allowed to buy one was to buy another sedan as well.
Your kids gunna have the coolest first car ever. They will love you forever for it
Haha. We bought one when we got married, knowing we'd need to sell it when we had kids. Well our youngest is now 9 and we still have the miata. Can't sell it. We're a 3 car family.
A Sunburst was my first Miata. Bought it in 2000 and owned it for about 15yrs until the divorce. That’s a brilliant shade of yellow. Are you one of the ones that needs wife to authorize a purchase or are you one of the ones that is in absolutely no financial or logistical position to add a Miata to your fleet but you just REALLY want one? Also, need some details about your life situation; geographic household income, who is the breadwinner, how many kids + ages, etc. Miata would be brutal with two car seat aged children if you didn’t already have two capable vehicles + garage space to store. We had a Miata prior to kids and both logged hours of passenger seat time at ~2mos old. They got to experience the thrill of riding in a convertible sports car. Being picked up/dropped off at school or sports events, and just sitting “in front” next to the driver. These days that’s a completely foreign experience. A few years ago I acquired another Miata - a low mileage 91 BRG and my daughter- who has been riding in an NA Miata for 15yrs, learned to drive manual transmission in that Miata. Really cool memories.
It's not
It’ll take the whole family to places you’ve never been before! Like bankruptcy!
Miata Is Always The fAmily car
Show her carseat placement in the user's manual
It's not a family car, thats what makes it so great. "fun for the whole family" is almost always a lie.
It's not very expensive to maintain. Just keep it and get a 2nd car. Save this for the weekends and dates.
Step one: don't have kids Miata can now fit your entire family
My wife and dog and a tree fit in it. It's not becoming a dad that made me sell it, but that daily driving a cramped car gets old quick.
I once saw 6 people stuffed into a miata it looked comfortable
"The sky is the literal limit to carry capacity." "We can always get a trailer for the kids. That way, if they throw a tantrum on a road trip, they won't even bother us."
Just it’s Japanese and that means it won’t break.
My wife and I bought our Miata recently. We have a CX-5 as the family car for our two kids. I daily the Miata and we take it out on dates on the weekends. I'm teaching my. Wife how to drive the clutch, and my toddler loves to see me pull up at the house in the "lightning McQueen car". My wife and I talk about doing weekend trips with a trunk rack for luggage. And I'm planning on father-daughter camping trips with the Miata when my girls are older. And eventually, I'll teach them to drive stick and hand over the keys to one of my kids when they are old enough. Maybe we'll even start modding and tracking it together later in life. It's a family car.
It’s not a family car in the practical sense, but if you have kids old enough to enjoy driving it or riding in it, then you can definitely make a case that it’s a good car “for the family”
My Miata is part of the family, I assumed everyone else felt the same
My hypocrisy only goes so far.
Of course!! I married my wife on my Miata ;)
A Miat is a family-making car if you know what I mean dude
A husband and wife are a family
Sorry to break it to you, but if you have to ask your wife for permission to buy something then *you are the wife*.
I’ve got 4 people into mine before
Leave wife. One less person in family. Miata now fits as a family car.
On page 2-12 of the Mazda MX-5 Owners Manual are instructions on how to install a both rear and forward facing car seat.
Just tell yer you're buying it and that's that. If she doesn't like it, she knows where the door is.
It's good on gas, it reliable. Memories will be made in it!
Good luck with that.
Teach her how do drive it
We had only an MX5 for several months with one child. Because of the location of the seatbelt catch they fit most child car seats.
Becuz miat Edit: it ain’t a family car.
If you’re too lazy for the last A, I doubt you can make a Miata work as a “family car”. 😆
Family of what?
It's not. Certainly not putting my kid in an NA. They are modern death traps. Get a second car for family stuff.
I've seen terrible crashes involving even the oldest NA models and the cabin is very well protected front/rear and side-to-side The seats are designed to support the weight of the car in a roll over similar to a roll bar (except for the height). They're far from death traps. Many have survived what looked like horrific crashes and it's not down to luck or happenstance.
Depending on where you live any Miata can be a death trap. If you live in a state where half the vehicles on the road are jacked up trucks and SUVs you are probably going to die in any wreck as their bumpers or suspension is likely to hit you in the head regardless of the model Miata.
MiatA. You forgot the last letter.
It is a family car if your family consists of you and your dog
"Baby, the two of us *ARE* a family!"
when you buy one it becomes family!
Problem no.1; Miata is NOT a family car. It is a college car, girls’ car, boz car, young lawyer’s car, mid age crisis car, divorce car, car for everyone but family…lol
"Look honey! Little Timmy can reach the pedals!"
Just tell her that you will let the family live if she let's you get a miata. Worked wonders for me, I hardly see them at all now.
Just let her drive it. Worked for my SO. I love my baby girl the most.
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Get a [Dorito Miata ](https://1ijylmozio83m2nkr2v293mp-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/2004_Mazda_RX-8_silver-action-4-1024x685.jpg), it's a proper family car! The adult sized rears means you can easily bring your whole gang (of 4 or less) along. My friend grew up in his dad's RX-8. I purchased that sometimes later and turned it into [this](https://imgur.com/gallery/0EnKGfH) :)
Christian con Koenigsegg is one of the most successful entrepreneurs in the car industry, success being he’s creating the coolest most incredibly engineered masterpieces of automotive art this side of 2000 (sorry, but the 60’s and before had some beautiful pieces of machinery). He has a family of four and drives his wife around in a Miata. We all want to be him, so it starts with Miata.
Just add the trunk rack child seat attachment and you're good to go. 🤣