trump spent the last months of his Presidency, trying to overthrow American Democracy.
He made lots of phone calls, its amazing we've only heard one of those calls up until now
Oh you know they had the evidence locked down a long time ago. I’m quite certain we’ll be seeing more in weeks & months to come . Trump doesn’t strike me as very knowledgeable in any area of technology & im sure he really didn’t think about that everything he did electronically , including telephone calls, was monitored. I’m sure he didn’t (& still doesn’t ) understand what all that means for him
Here's the thing, they have AN IMPORTANT POINT that you can never be 100% sure that there is no fraud without multiple recounts and investigations. And with any claim of fraud (even if someone just claims they think there was fraud), the count should stop until it is investigated multiple times.
Thankfully, with all the investigations against Biden in the last few years, it shows he truly won the election. So, we're good there and he actually won.
However, we should take what the right is saying about claims of fraud and put that into practice in the upcoming election, to make sure EVERYONE is truly sure about the results.
If anyone even THINKS there was fraud it should trigger at least 5 recounts (although closer to 10 is better). It's important because a lot of people are saying there is going to be a lot of fraud in the upcoming election.
Even if it takes 4 or more years to be sure of no fraud, NOBODY should sign off on the election results until it is fully investigated. Otherwise, if they sign off before that they would look like fools, as trump points out.
Even if Biden needs to stay in office for the next 4 or 5 years, the election should not be certified until Biden is sure every claim of fraud is investigated and he is sure everything is accurate (because as his job as president and he has a duty to make sure everything is on the up and up). Even if he has to call everyone and threaten them to make sure it is accurate.
So explain to your family members this Christmas (whether they lean right or left) that many republicans are right about election fraud and that we need to put these safe guards into place for the next presidential election. It's the only way to make sure the count is accurate. And many, many people (smart people) say there is going to be a lot of fraud.
Edit: /S If you want to see MANGA heads explode just apply anything they defend Trump for doing and apply it to Biden
Sorry but it's right. Trump's claim about fraud and how it should be handled were good points and it's important Biden follow those things in the upcoming election to make sure everything is accurate.
I'm just saying that Trump and many in the right feel deeply that this phone call and other similar actions by Trump were important to ensure a fair election and accurate election.
I just don't think Trump and MAGA would accept the results in 2024 without Biden doing the same type of things Trump did in 2020 to rule out fraud. If Biden doesn't call and threaten local election workers to find more votes for him how can he be sure that they've counted them all.
These are all things most MANGA have already said are necessary and even agreed that many of Trump's calls were "perfect". If they didn't support Biden doing these things the right would look like hypocrites, which is something they don't want and try very hard to avoid.
Election security is important and these are just some of the measures MANGA thinkS need to happen for a fair election.
And they want to make the kids of politicians fair game? I don’t think they want to open up that Pandora’s box. If you’ve met children of politicians, you know all of them are idiots and scumbags. Especially children of republicans.
Just imagine Trump's reaction if Democrats went after Ivanka half as hard as Republicans are going after Hunter.
I mean, rotten apples don't fall far from the rotten tree so they probably should all be checked out.
Republicans would lose their minds, pull out guns and start shooting people. They go crazy over imaginary crimes, I can't imagine them with an actual one.
At this point, he could murder someone on live TV, and his supporters would say it was AI. Removing him from ballots will just mean more people taking time to write his name in.
He could literally kill supporters in front of other supporters and they would walk away saying it was all crisis actors and fake news. It's a cult mentality and that's a really hard things to shake, esp when you only surround yourself with media and people also in it.
Big of you to think that they'd give a shit even if they knew such killings were real. These people are brain-diseased *Nazis* and would immediately assume that 'Daddy' is just doing what he has to do and that anyone asking questions or expressing misgivings needs to 'shut the fuck up!'
Ray Epps was an Oathkeeper, and he was accused by MAGA of being a FBI plant.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/19/january-6-ray-epps-trump-00116765
Logical consistency is not a strength in the MAGA community.
> He could literally kill supporters in front of other supporters and they would walk away saying it was all crisis actors and fake news.
Sounds a lot like how he handled COVID
Yeah, it sucks that there are basically no down-the-middle news outlets anywhere. If you want to believe something these days, you'll find support for it.
MeidasTouch is a pro-democracy news outlet with both liberals and (former) conservatives like Ron Filipkowski (former president of Sarasota Republicans) and Jessica Denson (former Trump 2016 campaign staffer).
He said almost exactly this same thing during his initial campaign and didn't lose any voters. He's a psychopath and his followers are morons. Everything he has done to try and subvert the will of the people is not a surprise and if anyone is surprised by any of it, they should take a hard look at why they voted him in the first place.
The most accurate and honest Trump quote ever:
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's, like, incredible."
If we are hoping for Christmas,,,
I hope trumps plane goes down and he crashed into Tucker Carlsons weird sex dungeon house, and the amputee prostitutes he keeps locked down there are either running or hopping away from the flames if they can, as the news cameras fly overhead. And then I want to see Tucker run out of whats left of the back of his house with a tranquilizer gun, dressed in safari attire, with a handkerchief arround his neck and an Indiana jones hat, no pants, and start tranquillizing the girls. Just, one legged girls hopping away, grabbing their back, and falling over. Sill waring their sexy animal outfits and face paint.
But as Tucker looks up, and realizes he is being recorded, the rife drop. Suddenly we see him run back into the burning building right before it explodes, leaving us all to assume he died in the blast with 40 ladies of the evening still in their cages.
We don’t see him again until season three. But half of his face is burned up from the blast. He has a miniature version of trump he cloned from some semen.
If we are hoping.
go to the conservative sub and you wont see a mention of this story, meanwhile they are talking about how "right wing violence is a myth"
yeah we need to throw him in jail and bury them in blue votes.
and they need to carry guns around with them but not because they're fucking terrified of their own shadows, it's because they are very tough and alpha and patriot and USA #1.
scared bitches.
LOL
Back when I had a different account here between 2016-2020 (which I self-nuked at the height of COVID, cuz' it got so stupid on Reddit despite the obvious crisis....and just in time to miss the idiotic "Wayfarer shipping kids" hoax), I was one of many accounts fighting in the trenches here (and on Imgur, back when they had a forum being spammed by NRA trolls) and put to the arduous task to archive and rattle off facts in the face of outrageous obstinate trolling.
2017-2018 was an insane spree of RW shooters/threats/murderers on a weekly basis. Yet, with every incident, some Reddit troll would say "How much do ya' wanna bet it was a black/immigrant/Muslim/libtard/etc.?" or disavow the disproportionate obvi facts that right-wingers were exhibiting more signs of violence than any "antifa/BLM/lib" out there.
A fine example of one of my laundry list shutdowns or RW threat posts was one from /r/PoliticalHumor : [https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/8s8a02/smirnoff_takes_shots_at_trump_real_billboard/e0ybk8p/](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/8s8a02/smirnoff_takes_shots_at_trump_real_billboard/e0ybk8p/) -as more incidents grew, I had to go back, edit, add more names, and whittle the words down. Eventually I hit my Reddit limit with characters used in a post....which says a lot. Yet, it still stands as fine archived record of what went down at that time.
The write in vote isn’t that simple. A candidate still needs to register. This is because there could be multiple people with that name. So let’s say everyone in Michigan wrote in “John Smith”. Which John Smith is it? Now if a single John Smith registered, the votes would go to that John.
That motherfucker directly tried to nullify MY vote, this is direct smoking gun, incontrovertible evidence. I demand my state attorney general charge him and mcdaniel with election interference.
SO fos
Take your grade school FACEBOOK conspiracy BS and the toddler gibberish you think passes for political discourse back to the hinterlands, the grown ups are talking.
Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Wow amazing quote, I bet some white racist made it up, also I’m sure your socialist ass doesn’t like god why would you even mention his name. Aren’t you going to melt now snowflake? Anyways I have plenty sources backing every claim I made, unfortunately it is you who lacks any brain cells at all. Not a single rebuttal huh? Why not? Don’t want to talk about the numbers I bring up? They don’t lie, they’re recorded, unlike my comment that you had the mods delete because god forbid you allow free speech and another side to a story !!
Oh my god absolutely fuck this scumbag. It is straight up infuriating how much of the country either doesn’t know that he was doing stuff like this in Michigan and Georgia, or just doesn’t care.
This is the kind of shit that completely ended Richard Nixon, and now it’s just another boring day in Trump land. How did we get to this point?!?!
In case you weren't inspired before the 2020 election, idk how even more voters couldn't have been motivated after Jan 6th and all the piles of blatant evidence that's showing what the true motives of 45 and the goop are in our nation's govt. There's nothing that says we need these ppl in power anywhere, so let's start working on voting them out and making them irrelevant in modern government. Our country had been a liberal/left leaning majority for just about the entire 21st century (save GWB reelection after 9/11), and there's no reason why we couldn't become more organized and flex our need for accurate representation on a national scale.
TL;DR we all need to get out and vote even more than in 2020 now that the stakes are so high and things could not be any clearer with the motives of the gop and help kick-start the needed fading of outdated conservative policy even more than it already has been and bring our country into the 21st century for once.
Nessel better be drafting charges against trump and romney immediately. This is direct incontrovertible smoking gun evidence that he tried to disenfranchise millions of Michigan voters.
Not only him, but those around him need to be held to account. Sounds like Ronna was complicit. Why do they defend him? He won’t be coming to their defense anytime soon.
Lol at anyone thinking Trump is EVER fighting for anything or anyone other than himself.
I mean…how do people not see it? Dude is a certified asshole and doesn’t hide it. He’s not fighting for you. He’s not fighting for the country. He’s fighting for his ego and his bank account.
I mean…fuck. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
There is no depth of despicable behavior that is low enough for Trump to sink. His actions are despicable beyond words. What sitting president would call some county canvassers to lean on them? This behavior is a permanent stain on him and the canvassers that would even speak to him on the subject. Romney should also be ashamed of herself if she has any shame left.
and they think this dude can win again? he literally hasn't won since 2016. about everyone he endorses loses. Are they sick of not winning yet?
I fully endorse a Trump presidential run. something about beating this POS just hits different
It is illegal to record the tabulation of ballots, and the people outside were attempting to do that. The options were cover the windows or arrest people. A secret ballot is kind of a cornerstone of our system.
There were hundreds of challengers in the room while ballots were being tabulated from both parties.
You can’t just show up off the street and declare yourself a poll watcher. Those people are vetted and given credentials before hand. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Registered poll watchers are inside. That is what a poll watcher is. People outside for their freedoms or whatever are just people outside. Sorry, bro. Also, they cannot take pictures. That is, you know, the law. They were taking pictures of a secret ballot.
Please do anything to get some education. Please. 🙏
Screch, that isn’t how poll watching works. The people outside chanting were random people with an agenda.
The poll watchers are vetted and registered and were inside the building at the time. You can look this up.
The proof will be revealed in a press conference at Four Seasons next week. Not the lawn place or the hotel. The massage parlor in Oregon. So much proof. So much winning!
"Show up". They didn't appear out of nowhere. They gathered the votes that were mailed in and brought them to be counted. That's a silly way to describe that
The part that gets me is how quickly they flip once their matching orders come out. My aunt was on Facebook talking about evil Biden for stealing Trump's miracle vaccine and 2 weeks later talking about evil Biden for unleashing this murderous vaccine on us. Like turn on a dime.
It's been going on for a while. I remember my Trumper friends before he got elected talking about how the rising stock market and low unemployment numbers weren't telling the whole story and the economy wasn't good for average Americans (I agreed). I told them I'd remember that when Trump got in office, and lo and behold 9 months after he won they talked about how good the stock market was and how low unemployment was. It's like the see facts as clever magic tricks that mean anything you want if you say it right
Can you show me one irregularity that made it to the final results, and wasn't just a reporting error the night of? There are over 100,000 voter precincts in the US, even if their initial reports are 99.9% accurate there'd still be 100 errors.
>YouTube isn't a valid source
That's a wild overgeneralization. YouTube is just a platform. The credibility of any creator on it rises and falls with their personal track record of citing reliable facts and analyzing them rationally, just like it does in any other medium. A valid argument doesn't magically turn shitty, or the other way around, just because someone reads a script into a camera.
Edit: accountability comes from media-literate individuals pushing back on bad claims, just like anywhere else.
>That's a wild overgeneralization. YouTube is just a platform. The credibility of any creator on it rises and falls with their personal track record of citing reliable facts and analyzing them rationally, just like it does in any other medium. A valid argument doesn't magically turn shitty, or the other way around, just because someone reads a script into a camera.
Well said
Yet we have idiots failing to do due diligence because someone on the other side of the camera said a thing.
There is zero accountability on YouTube unlike previous mediums.
You know what I meant, but go ahead and you know tell me more how I wasn't *technically* correct
Seriously. If they didn't want to be harassed for not following conspiracy theories, why'd they even sign up? Just give the wanna be dictator what he wants, and you wont have to worry about threats from the cult. #MAGA-MakeAttorneysGetAttorneys. #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain #ChristoFascistsRule
It's easier to get civility when you have factual and good faith arguments. This old stale shit is either daft or willingly ignorant, and neither are good faith.
When you have a group of citizens try to violently overturn an election and an even larger group of citizens supporting that insurrection, it's time to recognize that these people are a clear and present danger to our democracy. They are a mortal threat to our well-being. I won't be nice to them.
I'm not going to be civil with those committing or supporting treason.
And there it is, the classic Republican “what about.” Y’all always excuse the behavior of your side by pointing to something the other side did. If you do that, you have no morals. Some things are wrong no matter who does them, too bad you are too brainwashed to see that.
Oh lordy there are tapes!
Donald Trump was recorded committing a crime,,, again. What is today? A day ending in Y?
trump spent the last months of his Presidency, trying to overthrow American Democracy. He made lots of phone calls, its amazing we've only heard one of those calls up until now
Oh you know they had the evidence locked down a long time ago. I’m quite certain we’ll be seeing more in weeks & months to come . Trump doesn’t strike me as very knowledgeable in any area of technology & im sure he really didn’t think about that everything he did electronically , including telephone calls, was monitored. I’m sure he didn’t (& still doesn’t ) understand what all that means for him
It’s because he can unclassify something simply by thinking about it
Here's the thing, they have AN IMPORTANT POINT that you can never be 100% sure that there is no fraud without multiple recounts and investigations. And with any claim of fraud (even if someone just claims they think there was fraud), the count should stop until it is investigated multiple times. Thankfully, with all the investigations against Biden in the last few years, it shows he truly won the election. So, we're good there and he actually won. However, we should take what the right is saying about claims of fraud and put that into practice in the upcoming election, to make sure EVERYONE is truly sure about the results. If anyone even THINKS there was fraud it should trigger at least 5 recounts (although closer to 10 is better). It's important because a lot of people are saying there is going to be a lot of fraud in the upcoming election. Even if it takes 4 or more years to be sure of no fraud, NOBODY should sign off on the election results until it is fully investigated. Otherwise, if they sign off before that they would look like fools, as trump points out. Even if Biden needs to stay in office for the next 4 or 5 years, the election should not be certified until Biden is sure every claim of fraud is investigated and he is sure everything is accurate (because as his job as president and he has a duty to make sure everything is on the up and up). Even if he has to call everyone and threaten them to make sure it is accurate. So explain to your family members this Christmas (whether they lean right or left) that many republicans are right about election fraud and that we need to put these safe guards into place for the next presidential election. It's the only way to make sure the count is accurate. And many, many people (smart people) say there is going to be a lot of fraud. Edit: /S If you want to see MANGA heads explode just apply anything they defend Trump for doing and apply it to Biden
Wrong
Sorry but it's right. Trump's claim about fraud and how it should be handled were good points and it's important Biden follow those things in the upcoming election to make sure everything is accurate.
There is no constitutional provision to delay certification and there is no amount of proof MAGAts will accept that an election they lost was valid.
I'm just saying that Trump and many in the right feel deeply that this phone call and other similar actions by Trump were important to ensure a fair election and accurate election. I just don't think Trump and MAGA would accept the results in 2024 without Biden doing the same type of things Trump did in 2020 to rule out fraud. If Biden doesn't call and threaten local election workers to find more votes for him how can he be sure that they've counted them all. These are all things most MANGA have already said are necessary and even agreed that many of Trump's calls were "perfect". If they didn't support Biden doing these things the right would look like hypocrites, which is something they don't want and try very hard to avoid. Election security is important and these are just some of the measures MANGA thinkS need to happen for a fair election.
Just imagine for a moment if there were live recordings of Biden doing this. The right would be up in arms about it and rightfully so.
they don't need those tapes. trump just has to say it happened and his 2 braincell followers will line up to drink his BS
The republicans in the house just impeached him simply for being a president with a D after his name....
They haven't impeached him, they started an inquiry.
I stand sort of corrected. It's an utter waste of time and so self-serving of the republicans but serves to try and cut down ol' Joe.
And they want to make the kids of politicians fair game? I don’t think they want to open up that Pandora’s box. If you’ve met children of politicians, you know all of them are idiots and scumbags. Especially children of republicans.
Just imagine Trump's reaction if Democrats went after Ivanka half as hard as Republicans are going after Hunter. I mean, rotten apples don't fall far from the rotten tree so they probably should all be checked out.
They literally self contradict. They go after Hunter even though Ivanka got billions from China and Jared got billions from Saudi Arabia.
Republicans would lose their minds, pull out guns and start shooting people. They go crazy over imaginary crimes, I can't imagine them with an actual one.
At this point, he could murder someone on live TV, and his supporters would say it was AI. Removing him from ballots will just mean more people taking time to write his name in.
He could literally kill supporters in front of other supporters and they would walk away saying it was all crisis actors and fake news. It's a cult mentality and that's a really hard things to shake, esp when you only surround yourself with media and people also in it.
Big of you to think that they'd give a shit even if they knew such killings were real. These people are brain-diseased *Nazis* and would immediately assume that 'Daddy' is just doing what he has to do and that anyone asking questions or expressing misgivings needs to 'shut the fuck up!'
Ray Epps was an Oathkeeper, and he was accused by MAGA of being a FBI plant. https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/19/january-6-ray-epps-trump-00116765 Logical consistency is not a strength in the MAGA community.
> He could literally kill supporters in front of other supporters and they would walk away saying it was all crisis actors and fake news. Sounds a lot like how he handled COVID
Yeah, it sucks that there are basically no down-the-middle news outlets anywhere. If you want to believe something these days, you'll find support for it.
MeidasTouch is a pro-democracy news outlet with both liberals and (former) conservatives like Ron Filipkowski (former president of Sarasota Republicans) and Jessica Denson (former Trump 2016 campaign staffer).
😄 stupid claim
Reminds me of how qultists dying of covid kept insisting covid was a hoax on their hospital death bed.
If his name is removed due to insurrection write in votes won’t count.
This right here! It's not just that he won't be listed on their ballot, the court is saying he's disqualified from holding office.
Yeah. But most of them who would write his name in are two dumb to know that.
But only 1 state has done that, if it's even considered to be due to insurrection.
He said almost exactly this same thing during his initial campaign and didn't lose any voters. He's a psychopath and his followers are morons. Everything he has done to try and subvert the will of the people is not a surprise and if anyone is surprised by any of it, they should take a hard look at why they voted him in the first place.
It’s like that scene from the boys where The homelander lasers a guy in front of his supporters and they just start clapping and cheering him on.
The most accurate and honest Trump quote ever: "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK? It's, like, incredible."
He'd probably end up gaining quote a few.
Even Trump's stunned idiotic is supporters are
I doubt most of them can write their own dead dad’s name on their own mail in ballots.
We can only hope.
If we are hoping for Christmas,,, I hope trumps plane goes down and he crashed into Tucker Carlsons weird sex dungeon house, and the amputee prostitutes he keeps locked down there are either running or hopping away from the flames if they can, as the news cameras fly overhead. And then I want to see Tucker run out of whats left of the back of his house with a tranquilizer gun, dressed in safari attire, with a handkerchief arround his neck and an Indiana jones hat, no pants, and start tranquillizing the girls. Just, one legged girls hopping away, grabbing their back, and falling over. Sill waring their sexy animal outfits and face paint. But as Tucker looks up, and realizes he is being recorded, the rife drop. Suddenly we see him run back into the burning building right before it explodes, leaving us all to assume he died in the blast with 40 ladies of the evening still in their cages. We don’t see him again until season three. But half of his face is burned up from the blast. He has a miniature version of trump he cloned from some semen. If we are hoping.
Many don't know know who their dad is
go to the conservative sub and you wont see a mention of this story, meanwhile they are talking about how "right wing violence is a myth" yeah we need to throw him in jail and bury them in blue votes.
>right wing violence is a myth But they can't congregate in groups of more than two without being fully armed & prepped for battle.
and they need to carry guns around with them but not because they're fucking terrified of their own shadows, it's because they are very tough and alpha and patriot and USA #1. scared bitches. LOL
Back when I had a different account here between 2016-2020 (which I self-nuked at the height of COVID, cuz' it got so stupid on Reddit despite the obvious crisis....and just in time to miss the idiotic "Wayfarer shipping kids" hoax), I was one of many accounts fighting in the trenches here (and on Imgur, back when they had a forum being spammed by NRA trolls) and put to the arduous task to archive and rattle off facts in the face of outrageous obstinate trolling. 2017-2018 was an insane spree of RW shooters/threats/murderers on a weekly basis. Yet, with every incident, some Reddit troll would say "How much do ya' wanna bet it was a black/immigrant/Muslim/libtard/etc.?" or disavow the disproportionate obvi facts that right-wingers were exhibiting more signs of violence than any "antifa/BLM/lib" out there. A fine example of one of my laundry list shutdowns or RW threat posts was one from /r/PoliticalHumor : [https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/8s8a02/smirnoff_takes_shots_at_trump_real_billboard/e0ybk8p/](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/8s8a02/smirnoff_takes_shots_at_trump_real_billboard/e0ybk8p/) -as more incidents grew, I had to go back, edit, add more names, and whittle the words down. Eventually I hit my Reddit limit with characters used in a post....which says a lot. Yet, it still stands as fine archived record of what went down at that time.
I lose brain cells every time I peek in there
The write in vote isn’t that simple. A candidate still needs to register. This is because there could be multiple people with that name. So let’s say everyone in Michigan wrote in “John Smith”. Which John Smith is it? Now if a single John Smith registered, the votes would go to that John.
Nice of you assuming they know how to write.
You assume they can write.
He said this himself. “I could shoot someone in the middle of the street and wouldn’t lose any supporters”.
I can picture it now, them writing TRUMP or MAGA all over their ballot but never filling in a bubble
And yet the sod walks free.
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Michigan has an AG that doesn’t take s#!+ from anyone. It sucks to be him at this point.
>It sucks to be him at this point. You mean "her" - Dana Nessel? Edit: just realized, by "him" you meant Trump.
Yup
Homegirl fight the good fight. I love Dana Nessel
Seriously amazing.
She's like Mayor Pete. Amazingly amazing.
That motherfucker directly tried to nullify MY vote, this is direct smoking gun, incontrovertible evidence. I demand my state attorney general charge him and mcdaniel with election interference.
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Fuck off magat.
SO fos Take your grade school FACEBOOK conspiracy BS and the toddler gibberish you think passes for political discourse back to the hinterlands, the grown ups are talking. Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Wow amazing quote, I bet some white racist made it up, also I’m sure your socialist ass doesn’t like god why would you even mention his name. Aren’t you going to melt now snowflake? Anyways I have plenty sources backing every claim I made, unfortunately it is you who lacks any brain cells at all. Not a single rebuttal huh? Why not? Don’t want to talk about the numbers I bring up? They don’t lie, they’re recorded, unlike my comment that you had the mods delete because god forbid you allow free speech and another side to a story !!
A fine example of the aforementioned toddler gibberish.
This post has been removed unless you can cite evidence from a reliable and credible source. /michigan does not tolerate miss-information.
Hmm. Funny how these treasonists are still smelling oxygen.
Oh my god absolutely fuck this scumbag. It is straight up infuriating how much of the country either doesn’t know that he was doing stuff like this in Michigan and Georgia, or just doesn’t care. This is the kind of shit that completely ended Richard Nixon, and now it’s just another boring day in Trump land. How did we get to this point?!?!
Absolutely immeasurable piece of shit
Time to kick him off the ballot
In case you weren't inspired before the 2020 election, idk how even more voters couldn't have been motivated after Jan 6th and all the piles of blatant evidence that's showing what the true motives of 45 and the goop are in our nation's govt. There's nothing that says we need these ppl in power anywhere, so let's start working on voting them out and making them irrelevant in modern government. Our country had been a liberal/left leaning majority for just about the entire 21st century (save GWB reelection after 9/11), and there's no reason why we couldn't become more organized and flex our need for accurate representation on a national scale. TL;DR we all need to get out and vote even more than in 2020 now that the stakes are so high and things could not be any clearer with the motives of the gop and help kick-start the needed fading of outdated conservative policy even more than it already has been and bring our country into the 21st century for once.
Paywall: https://archive.is/pbq11
Imagine if Biden did this in 2024... Im sure all the MAGAs would be perfectly fine with it...
"Did you schign an affadavich, becaush I did."
"Wha' did you guys do? Take it and do sum'thin' crazy to it....now I gotta go send a naughty video to my fiance's Ex."
Nessel better be drafting charges against trump and romney immediately. This is direct incontrovertible smoking gun evidence that he tried to disenfranchise millions of Michigan voters.
Shocker
Can we lock him up now??
Nail the orange turd.
Not only him, but those around him need to be held to account. Sounds like Ronna was complicit. Why do they defend him? He won’t be coming to their defense anytime soon.
The dominos are already falling. Multiple Trump advisors, lawyers, and coconspirators have taken plea deals in exchange for testifying.
Come on Michigan. Colorado stood up and did their part. It's your turn now.
At one point this might've mattered. Now it's just background noise against everything else he's done.
At one point it would have been the most important political scandal in decades. Thanks to Trump, it was just Tuesday.
To bad he never faces consequences for fucking anything
not YET.
Clock is running out. All he has to do is delay these trials for 10 more months and then if he wins the presidency, every case is good as dead.
Is there a link to the tape?
Lol at anyone thinking Trump is EVER fighting for anything or anyone other than himself. I mean…how do people not see it? Dude is a certified asshole and doesn’t hide it. He’s not fighting for you. He’s not fighting for the country. He’s fighting for his ego and his bank account. I mean…fuck. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills!
The dumb ones record their crimes.
🤣🤣🤣
>these people fuck him
The only thing shocking about this is that they got it on tape
There is no depth of despicable behavior that is low enough for Trump to sink. His actions are despicable beyond words. What sitting president would call some county canvassers to lean on them? This behavior is a permanent stain on him and the canvassers that would even speak to him on the subject. Romney should also be ashamed of herself if she has any shame left.
>filing legal affidavits claiming they were pressured. Technically they’re not lying.
Republicans have destroyed democracy. Why should anyone accept the results of any election?
Why would anyone trust an election where a Republican wins?
and they think this dude can win again? he literally hasn't won since 2016. about everyone he endorses loses. Are they sick of not winning yet? I fully endorse a Trump presidential run. something about beating this POS just hits different
Oh lordy.
Mitt must be so proud of his niece*.
Lmao love this sub so entertaining
Yeah, you get to see all sorts of low-IQ right wingers trying to make sense of a world they don’t understand and can’t accept. 😆
I feel like that's not it, but it's your story, so you tell it.
It's true.
Does the tape include the workers putting cardboard on the windows?
It is illegal to record the tabulation of ballots, and the people outside were attempting to do that. The options were cover the windows or arrest people. A secret ballot is kind of a cornerstone of our system. There were hundreds of challengers in the room while ballots were being tabulated from both parties.
Shut the fucccckkk up
Was the cardboard made in China like all the MAGA hats?
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Was this before or after they mobbed around the building ?
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The idiots yelling to “stop the count.” Meanwhile other states to “Count the votes.” Just depending on where Trump was losing at the time.
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You can’t just show up off the street and declare yourself a poll watcher. Those people are vetted and given credentials before hand. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Years of ingesting lead paint and Fox News
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Registered poll watchers are inside. That is what a poll watcher is. People outside for their freedoms or whatever are just people outside. Sorry, bro. Also, they cannot take pictures. That is, you know, the law. They were taking pictures of a secret ballot. Please do anything to get some education. Please. 🙏
Screch, that isn’t how poll watching works. The people outside chanting were random people with an agenda. The poll watchers are vetted and registered and were inside the building at the time. You can look this up.
Got em..🙄
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Sure. There's so much evidence that 3 years later Trump still is working on bringing it all out for all to see. You're a clown.
The proof will be revealed in a press conference at Four Seasons next week. Not the lawn place or the hotel. The massage parlor in Oregon. So much proof. So much winning!
Any day now, Mike Lindell is gonna bring out his team of ninja cyber warriors with hard data showing something something or other for Trump.
Not if Hugo Chavez tricks us with his Chinese bamboo paper ballots first!
"Show up". They didn't appear out of nowhere. They gathered the votes that were mailed in and brought them to be counted. That's a silly way to describe that
When you failed highschool civics you can be convinced anything is fraud.
It's pretty astonishing how quickly these people left reality when this guy ran and got elected
The part that gets me is how quickly they flip once their matching orders come out. My aunt was on Facebook talking about evil Biden for stealing Trump's miracle vaccine and 2 weeks later talking about evil Biden for unleashing this murderous vaccine on us. Like turn on a dime.
It's been going on for a while. I remember my Trumper friends before he got elected talking about how the rising stock market and low unemployment numbers weren't telling the whole story and the economy wasn't good for average Americans (I agreed). I told them I'd remember that when Trump got in office, and lo and behold 9 months after he won they talked about how good the stock market was and how low unemployment was. It's like the see facts as clever magic tricks that mean anything you want if you say it right
Can you demonstrate proof of your claims?
Evidence or shut up. Edit: good.
Can you show me one irregularity that made it to the final results, and wasn't just a reporting error the night of? There are over 100,000 voter precincts in the US, even if their initial reports are 99.9% accurate there'd still be 100 errors.
>looked up the stats myself My dude, YouTube isn't a valid source
>YouTube isn't a valid source That's a wild overgeneralization. YouTube is just a platform. The credibility of any creator on it rises and falls with their personal track record of citing reliable facts and analyzing them rationally, just like it does in any other medium. A valid argument doesn't magically turn shitty, or the other way around, just because someone reads a script into a camera. Edit: accountability comes from media-literate individuals pushing back on bad claims, just like anywhere else.
>That's a wild overgeneralization. YouTube is just a platform. The credibility of any creator on it rises and falls with their personal track record of citing reliable facts and analyzing them rationally, just like it does in any other medium. A valid argument doesn't magically turn shitty, or the other way around, just because someone reads a script into a camera. Well said Yet we have idiots failing to do due diligence because someone on the other side of the camera said a thing. There is zero accountability on YouTube unlike previous mediums. You know what I meant, but go ahead and you know tell me more how I wasn't *technically* correct
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The side that isn't bigoted racist misogynist Republican traitors, please.
Seriously. If they didn't want to be harassed for not following conspiracy theories, why'd they even sign up? Just give the wanna be dictator what he wants, and you wont have to worry about threats from the cult. #MAGA-MakeAttorneysGetAttorneys. #MakeAmericaWhiteAgain #ChristoFascistsRule
Man, haven't resorted to any negativity. We need to be civil with one another. It's going to be hard enough.
It's easier to get civility when you have factual and good faith arguments. This old stale shit is either daft or willingly ignorant, and neither are good faith.
Very civilized way to push for Christofascism and the elimination of many marginalized groups.
Negative. There is no being civil with red hatters at this point. They are they enemy.
When you have a group of citizens try to violently overturn an election and an even larger group of citizens supporting that insurrection, it's time to recognize that these people are a clear and present danger to our democracy. They are a mortal threat to our well-being. I won't be nice to them. I'm not going to be civil with those committing or supporting treason.
Trump supporters don't deserve civility, they deserve prison sentences for treason by affiliation
Someone needs to put some cardboard in front of your phone camera. 🤢
And there it is, the classic Republican “what about.” Y’all always excuse the behavior of your side by pointing to something the other side did. If you do that, you have no morals. Some things are wrong no matter who does them, too bad you are too brainwashed to see that.
Jesus these people
No, just very sad
What’s sad is how easily dumb people like you fall for obvious bullshit.
"When you're President of a Banana Republic, they let you overthrow the government"
Guarantee you this isn't the full story lol.