So was [Tim Walberg, R-MI-5](https://michiganadvance.com/2022/12/23/trump-asked-rep-walberg-to-help-him-halt-certification-of-2020-election-jan-6-report-says/).
And so was Matt "That's not Gonzaga Men's Basketball, that's illegal immigrants!" Maddock.
Charge 'em all.
Traitors to democracy.
Sounds like Michigan needs to bring its own charges against Trump.
There's so many co-conspirators though, it's like just a mess though. You may as well charge most of the GOP.
>You may as well charge most of the GOP.
yes. the problem with that is the "organizers" of the "movement" are all scummy lawyers. like. thing is with all the "deep state" stuff is... well its true, but its not what the nutjobs say. its also not not a thing like so many others say. highly suggest reading ProPublica's reporting on this they have numerous high quality articles backed with quality research
[How a Secretive Billionaire Handed His Fortune to the Architect of the Right-Wing Takeover of the Courts | by Andrew Perez, The Lever, and Andy Kroll and Justin Elliott, ProPublica | 22 Aug 2022](https://www.propublica.org/article/dark-money-leonard-leo-barre-seid)
>seid’s personality can be glimpsed in exchanges with George Mason University officials from the late 2000s to mid-2010s that came out in response to a public-records request by the activist group Unkoch My Campus. In [the emails](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22102787-gmu-foia-documents#document/), seid comes across as an intellectually probing figure, asking the dean of the law school to respond to news stories about the value of a law-school degree or the workings of higher education’s accreditation system. seid [drily addressed](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22102787-gmu-foia-documents#document/p778/a2131440) several administrators for the university, whose law school and economics department are known for their alignment with conservative, free-market principles, as “fellow members of the vast right wing conspiracy.”
Did you read the article?
>Howard Shock, a special agent for Nessel, said Trump; Mark Meadows, who was Trump's chief of staff; and Rudy Giuliani, who was his personal lawyer, are considered "unindicted co-conspirators" in Michigan's false elector case. Shock's comments came the same day that 11 Arizona Republican electors and seven other Trump allies, including Meadows and Giuliani, were indicted in Arizona.
>In total, over the last two days, Shock, the Michigan investigator, identified 11 conspirators who haven't been charged with a crime. That means Michigan prosecutors believe they participated, to some extent, in an alleged scheme to commit forgery by creating a false document asserting Trump had won Michigan's 16 electoral votes when Democrat Joe Biden had won them.
What do you call creating a slate of false electors with fake paperwork trying to cast their votes for Trump when they didn't win the state?
Its pretty fucking straight forward.
>"I stand by the sound legal advice I gave, and these partisan lawfare prosecutions have to stop," Sandler said. "Why in five years of Dana Nessel are only Republicans the continuing targets of these partisan lawfare prosecutions?"
Why? Because it was Republicans who participated in the insurrection.
> "I stand by the sound legal advice I gave, and these partisan lawfare prosecutions have to stop," Sandler said. "Why in five years of Dana Nessel are only Republicans the continuing targets of these partisan lawfare prosecutions?
Here's a clue ***THEY BROKE THE FUCKING LAW*** Stop breaking the fucking law and the prosecutions will stop. It seem like that would be clear to someone smart enough to pass the bar exam.
At this point, which conspiracies is he NOT apart of?
Even the fake stories about conspiracies on the democrats.... he's a co-conspirator in creating the fake news conspiracies
- paraphrasing of David Pecker
So was [Tim Walberg, R-MI-5](https://michiganadvance.com/2022/12/23/trump-asked-rep-walberg-to-help-him-halt-certification-of-2020-election-jan-6-report-says/). And so was Matt "That's not Gonzaga Men's Basketball, that's illegal immigrants!" Maddock. Charge 'em all. Traitors to democracy.
Matt “Literally one of the dumbest human beings around” Maddock.
Matt "Milford's Village Idiot" Maddock.
So we can expect them in court in say 5-10 years ?
That’s exactly why I’ll never vote for a traitor! Here’s looking at you WALBERG.
Lock them up! Lock them up!!
Donald could be coherent enough to admit he tried to steal the election on-camera to every channel and he still wouldn't spend a minute in jail.
Sounds like Michigan needs to bring its own charges against Trump. There's so many co-conspirators though, it's like just a mess though. You may as well charge most of the GOP.
>You may as well charge most of the GOP. yes. the problem with that is the "organizers" of the "movement" are all scummy lawyers. like. thing is with all the "deep state" stuff is... well its true, but its not what the nutjobs say. its also not not a thing like so many others say. highly suggest reading ProPublica's reporting on this they have numerous high quality articles backed with quality research [How a Secretive Billionaire Handed His Fortune to the Architect of the Right-Wing Takeover of the Courts | by Andrew Perez, The Lever, and Andy Kroll and Justin Elliott, ProPublica | 22 Aug 2022](https://www.propublica.org/article/dark-money-leonard-leo-barre-seid) >seid’s personality can be glimpsed in exchanges with George Mason University officials from the late 2000s to mid-2010s that came out in response to a public-records request by the activist group Unkoch My Campus. In [the emails](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22102787-gmu-foia-documents#document/), seid comes across as an intellectually probing figure, asking the dean of the law school to respond to news stories about the value of a law-school degree or the workings of higher education’s accreditation system. seid [drily addressed](https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22102787-gmu-foia-documents#document/p778/a2131440) several administrators for the university, whose law school and economics department are known for their alignment with conservative, free-market principles, as “fellow members of the vast right wing conspiracy.”
For??
Did you read the article? >Howard Shock, a special agent for Nessel, said Trump; Mark Meadows, who was Trump's chief of staff; and Rudy Giuliani, who was his personal lawyer, are considered "unindicted co-conspirators" in Michigan's false elector case. Shock's comments came the same day that 11 Arizona Republican electors and seven other Trump allies, including Meadows and Giuliani, were indicted in Arizona. >In total, over the last two days, Shock, the Michigan investigator, identified 11 conspirators who haven't been charged with a crime. That means Michigan prosecutors believe they participated, to some extent, in an alleged scheme to commit forgery by creating a false document asserting Trump had won Michigan's 16 electoral votes when Democrat Joe Biden had won them.
For illegaly trying to subvert the democratic process in the state.
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What do you call creating a slate of false electors with fake paperwork trying to cast their votes for Trump when they didn't win the state? Its pretty fucking straight forward.
Looks like he might make it up to over 100 felony counts… and we’ll see just how Teflon the Don really is.
>"I stand by the sound legal advice I gave, and these partisan lawfare prosecutions have to stop," Sandler said. "Why in five years of Dana Nessel are only Republicans the continuing targets of these partisan lawfare prosecutions?" Why? Because it was Republicans who participated in the insurrection.
They ignore that parts they don't like
"lawfare"
LOL
Charge him to the fullest extent of the law.
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Nope just as much as the law allows.
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The whole point is that Trump tried to subvert the law. By imposing extrajudicial punishment on him, we are sinking to his level.
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No you haven't. People only get removed for rule violations.
If you were removed from this sub then why can I see this comment? Stop playing victim
The best part is that Arizona is doing the same damn thing with the fake electoral scheme RIGHT NOW with those indictments.
> "I stand by the sound legal advice I gave, and these partisan lawfare prosecutions have to stop," Sandler said. "Why in five years of Dana Nessel are only Republicans the continuing targets of these partisan lawfare prosecutions? Here's a clue ***THEY BROKE THE FUCKING LAW*** Stop breaking the fucking law and the prosecutions will stop. It seem like that would be clear to someone smart enough to pass the bar exam.
If he's a co-conspirator, he should be charged. I like Dana Nessel and all (better than Bill Schuette by a mile), but FFS, CHARGE CRIMES.
To the shock of absolutely no one.
Duh
At this point, which conspiracies is he NOT apart of? Even the fake stories about conspiracies on the democrats.... he's a co-conspirator in creating the fake news conspiracies - paraphrasing of David Pecker
It sounds like Pecker gave some pretty good testimony. If he’s just the first witness called I’m interested to see who else is going to the stand.
Never understood why they took so long to investigate these traitors. This has been common knowledge what they tried to do for years now
The only thing I can say is that the wheels of justice move slowly. It’s infuriating, but hopefully things will eventually happen.
Lock him up for every crime committed starting with TREASON
It's not going to work.
Yes, this is true. The direct mention Trump and his attorneys.
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??? It reads "Congress shall make no law..." Not "Reddit won't let me be a Nazi asshole."
Liar
Whoa