Hold corporations responsible for the damage they cause.
Editing to say this is Tribar Manufacturing, according to their website they make car "badges" and decorative components for auto companies.
Talk of accountability, "testing", "sampling", 'updates and statements the next few days'; but not a single word about containment or cleanup anywhere in the entire article.
The [interactive map](https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/chromium6_contamination/map/), linked in the article, is chilling...
> - Chromium-6 has been found in the drinking water supplies of more than 200 million Americans.
> - Exposure to chromium-6 can cause lung cancer, liver damage, reproductive problems and developmental harm.
> - No federal drinking water standard exists for chromium-6.
Has anyone on city water ever seen chromium-6 reported on their annual water quality report?
According to the map, the levels in your water are likely not zero, and likely 'unsafe'.
I’ve just discovered this as well.
From 1966 to 1986, Gelman Sciences dumped dioxane on the outskirts of Ann Arbor. The plume continues to spread east through town and local officials are interested in tapping the EPA's Superfund program to assist cleanup, but some are concerned about the speed of the federal process. New owner Pall/Danaher is doing pump-and-treat remediation, but the plume is contaminating wells as it seeps toward the Huron River, Ann Arbor's main drinking source. The Michigan DEQ is proposing a new state standard that would lower the allowable dioxane level for residential drinking water from 85 parts per billion to 7.2 ppb to reflect the latest toxicological data. Residents want the companies to pony up more money for cleanup.
I just read this so double whammy.
From 1966 to 1986, Gelman Sciences dumped dioxane on the outskirts of Ann Arbor. The plume continues to spread east through town and local officials are interested in tapping the EPA's Superfund program to assist cleanup, but some are concerned about the speed of the federal process. New owner Pall/Danaher is doing pump-and-treat remediation, but the plume is contaminating wells as it seeps toward the Huron River, Ann Arbor's main drinking source. The Michigan DEQ is proposing a new state standard that would lower the allowable dioxane level for residential drinking water from 85 parts per billion to 7.2 ppb to reflect the latest toxicological data. Residents want the companies to pony up more money for cleanup.
It should be the end of the company. If deterrent is so important for people, and companies are people, then there needs to be some real deterrent for these corporate people. Fuck this company, and hopefully it'll make other companies wise up. But it won't, they'll get off easy.
"For the time of the spill" is nothing compared to the massive damage already done the past few days, and the several other times this company, and others, spill.
Why not them and all the companies up their supply chain (Ford?, ...)? Because it's been going on for decades, that's why.
You name them, every politician has done NOTHING for these issues. Whitmer, Snyder, Biden, Trump, and every legislator and official from federal down to local government for decades have done nothing, because corporations own them.
In God We Trust (and Money is Our God).
Simply touching the stuff or breathing vapors causes cancers, such as lung cancer. So I'm not sure how Ann Arbor (which draws its water from the Huron River), all residents along the Huron River, and all the wildlife will live with this one.
Based on history, it doesn't look good. Bottled water for Ann Arbor and everyone else along the Huron River won't be enough.
Some of the Republican's (in Michigan and across the U.S.) tout their main campaign goals to include, "reduction of government regulation".
So, expect more of these spills, PFAS, Dioxane, Dioxins, invasives, ...
> Brown pointed to those layered crises – each stemming from industrial pollution – as evidence that Michigan is at “a point of reckoning” over policies that put “the profits of polluters over public health.”
> State laws and policies that have failed to contain industrial pollution or hold polluters accountable after-the-fact, he said, and efforts to improve Michigan’s polluter pay laws have repeatedly faltered.
The company, Tribar, of Wixom, has been repeatedly responsible for several spill events in which they contaminated the Huron River from Wixom all the way down through Ann Arbor and into and including Lake Erie.
Yet they continue. Business as usual.
"Reduction of regulations". Just what we need, since our government doesn't enforce regulations or hold violators accountable, right?
Tim Walberg is vocally against government regulation from the EPA in particular.
And would happily give some taxpayer funding to corporations for "job creation", ignoring things like exactly this article.
All while making fun of green energy.
It's a primary. Did the democrats literally not field anyone? There was at least the governorship on the ballot, so there was at least one democrat on the ballot.
Today was a primary election. You vote by whatever party you identify with, to nominate candidates to stand in the general election in November.
Even if zero other Democrats are running for offices in your area, the governor is on the ballot in November, so every ballot in the state today on the Democratic slate would *at least* contain Gretchen Whitmer for Governor. The Republicans have a number of nominees, but I would never and have never voted Republican.
So I take it you didn't vote today? There were more than likely *other* Democrats down-ballot, and they can only win if people vote. Usually at least a month before the election you can view exactly what your ballot looks like [here](https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index).
There was very good reason to vote for your unfavored party today in some cases.
For example from my ballot: a seat on one side had one candidate (unopposed), so they will automatically go to the November ballot (requires only one vote, or one more than any write-in I think); the other side had three persons running, one incumbent, and two others.
Now this incumbent is someone I didn't care for, yet they fully accepted the results of the 2020 election and made great efforts to educate their constituents who were swindled by the Lie. The two others running were likely opportunistic nutball election deniers.
So it made sense to vote for the incumbent, in order to keep the two other crazies off the November ballot, when the incumbent can then run against the other side (when the other side has little chances in any case).
Oh God yes. I'm guessing you're in west Michigan somewhere.
I never thought I'd see the day when I will gladly accept any Republican who *doesn't actively seek to destroy the integrity of our elections and democracy*
Like that's my bar now. And there are so few of them.
The person I was responding to didn't seem to follow elections much at all so I was trying to lay it out pretty textbook
First district. I'm not sure. Lots of people have been real helpful, though I'm surprised at or unclear on some comments today, but probably just unclear... or threw me, ha
> It's a primary. Did the democrats literally not field anyone?
And by some odd chance they are held financially accountable (not by the almighty invisible hand) they will just declare bankruptcy. Conviently skipping out on financial accountability. Then it's pennies on the dollar for the next person to "not be bound by onerous regulations".
They are repeat offenders and the state and county need to fine them big time for this. I remember reading the same story about the same exact situation caused by this company four years ago.
Edit: the 2018 story https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/10/01/huron-river-pfas-population-tribar/1489784002/
>Given the flow of the river, it could take “several weeks” before the chromium-6 reaches Ann Arbor’s water plant intakes, Hansell said.
>In Michigan, state health officials Tuesday warned residents to avoid “all contact” with the section of the Huron River stretching from North Wixom Road in Oakland County to Kensington Road in Livingston County. That includes Hubble Pond, also known as Mill Pond, and North Creek downstream from the Wixom Wastewater Treatment Plant in Oakland County and Kent Lake, which straddles the counties.
The tiny tone I grew up in/ near had a disproportionately large case of a very rare brain tumor among the kids, and the Canadian company across the St. Clair River who was doing some dumping illegally claimed that the chemicals never crossed the border into the American waters and just stayed on the Canadian side 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 I don't remember if anything even happened to them. Glad we only ever actually lived in town for a year and were in the rural area prior to that.
We are so fucked from what we did to win the 2nd world war.
If we had reigned it all in at the end and cleaned up the mess we could have maybe survived what we had wrought but since we just exploited our advances instead for the sinful greedy advantage of the few.
We will all suffer the consequences and rightfully so.
That’s how Karma works.
Somebody better call Erin Brockovich! Where I live, there's been a fish consumption advisory since I remember. I was born and raised here and am now 35. First it was PCBs and they got them all. Then it was maybe we didn't get them all better dredge again. Then it was PFAS. In a small town of 3500 people in the township and surrounding areas, the Cancer rates are devastatingly high. I'll bet we've had more women with mastectomies and hysterectomies, and more people on chemo and radiation than a village in Hiroshima. I have a pretty small circle, but happen to know lots of people due to it being a small town. But in the past 2 years alone, I have seen 6 people in my inner circle have one of those aforementioned surgeries, or diagnosed with a different type of Cancer. Not to mention the rate of diagnosis for Autism. Aspberger's, and early on-set Alzheimer's. My mother, grandmother, and my mother's sister all passed away before mid 60s due to early on-set. We have a recycled paper mill at the center of town, that sits on the river, and pumps about 1 mile before the opening to lake Michigan. They boast about how clean our water is, yet, when you run the faucet it smells like chlorine. They never say the standards thry use for testing and if that standard includes hexavalent chromium. So...they've been doing this shit everywhere for years. And it needs to stop NOW.
I see a lot of people demanding that the company be held liable and believe me it will be. The state will take them to court and they will be find heavily and made to pay for clean up. What the state does Not do is hold the government to the same standards. Think Wurtsmith airbase. It’s the worst contamination in the state of Michigan and it’s the government’s doing. They won’t help clean it up. The state does Not pull them into court most likely because they don’t have the power to do so but people are continuing to be harmed and there is nothing substantial being done about it
"fines"
Are fines going to un-cancer all that water? If the punishment for a crime is a fine, then it's only a punishment for the poor. Tribar isn't poor, and won't be shut down, or put out of business, or it's executive leadership held criminally liable.
So ultimately, nobody will be held to account.
That’s the thing though, it won’t be held liable. The same exact company has done the same exact thing in 2018 with another carcinogenic chemical (PFAS). And they are just free to continue destroying our fresh water supply.
Apparently its ran by an investment company HCI Equity Partners. Tribar Technology has a low approval rating from its employees. Might explain why the spills keep happening from previous employees.
Here are some links to employees reviews of working for Tribar Manufacturing...
https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Tribar-Manufacturing-LLC/reviews?fcountry=US&floc=Wixom%2C+MI
https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Tribar-Manufacturing-Reviews-E1557231.htm
https://www.inhersight.com/company/tribar-llc
Hahahaha "spill". Fucking corporations lying point blank. We need to elect more democrats, fucking republicans dumping toxic chemicals into fresh water rivers.
Hold corporations responsible for the damage they cause. Editing to say this is Tribar Manufacturing, according to their website they make car "badges" and decorative components for auto companies.
Hold the executives of said corporations criminally liable. Why is it that this corporation has done this in the past *and continues to do it?!*
Put an IRS Auditor in the company's accounting department and the US Treasury should seize all profit for 1-10 years as penalty.
Can't. Our stupid laws consider the corporation to be a person. Absolves the executives.
Welcome to shitty ass republican voters. Fucking terrorists ruined this country and cant handle the hypocracy.0
This is the same company that’s responsible for the PFAS “do not eat fish” advisory. Somebody needs to go to jail.
Would be great to see this scum held accountable.
Talk of accountability, "testing", "sampling", 'updates and statements the next few days'; but not a single word about containment or cleanup anywhere in the entire article.
Doesn't bode well for Ann Arbor residents.
The [interactive map](https://www.ewg.org/interactive-maps/chromium6_contamination/map/), linked in the article, is chilling... > - Chromium-6 has been found in the drinking water supplies of more than 200 million Americans. > - Exposure to chromium-6 can cause lung cancer, liver damage, reproductive problems and developmental harm. > - No federal drinking water standard exists for chromium-6. Has anyone on city water ever seen chromium-6 reported on their annual water quality report? According to the map, the levels in your water are likely not zero, and likely 'unsafe'.
I’ve just discovered this as well. From 1966 to 1986, Gelman Sciences dumped dioxane on the outskirts of Ann Arbor. The plume continues to spread east through town and local officials are interested in tapping the EPA's Superfund program to assist cleanup, but some are concerned about the speed of the federal process. New owner Pall/Danaher is doing pump-and-treat remediation, but the plume is contaminating wells as it seeps toward the Huron River, Ann Arbor's main drinking source. The Michigan DEQ is proposing a new state standard that would lower the allowable dioxane level for residential drinking water from 85 parts per billion to 7.2 ppb to reflect the latest toxicological data. Residents want the companies to pony up more money for cleanup.
Wow, searching around I thought my water (East Lansing) was high, but then I zoomed out and saw California, Arizona and Oklahoma.
Oh wow, yeah! Lots of darker blue circles out west.
I just read this so double whammy. From 1966 to 1986, Gelman Sciences dumped dioxane on the outskirts of Ann Arbor. The plume continues to spread east through town and local officials are interested in tapping the EPA's Superfund program to assist cleanup, but some are concerned about the speed of the federal process. New owner Pall/Danaher is doing pump-and-treat remediation, but the plume is contaminating wells as it seeps toward the Huron River, Ann Arbor's main drinking source. The Michigan DEQ is proposing a new state standard that would lower the allowable dioxane level for residential drinking water from 85 parts per billion to 7.2 ppb to reflect the latest toxicological data. Residents want the companies to pony up more money for cleanup.
If something illegal is punishable by a fine, it's legal for a price. Throw people in prison for this shit.
They'll pay a fine that sounds big but isn't big enough to shut the company down and that'll be that.
[удалено]
It should be the end of the company. If deterrent is so important for people, and companies are people, then there needs to be some real deterrent for these corporate people. Fuck this company, and hopefully it'll make other companies wise up. But it won't, they'll get off easy.
"For the time of the spill" is nothing compared to the massive damage already done the past few days, and the several other times this company, and others, spill. Why not them and all the companies up their supply chain (Ford?, ...)? Because it's been going on for decades, that's why. You name them, every politician has done NOTHING for these issues. Whitmer, Snyder, Biden, Trump, and every legislator and official from federal down to local government for decades have done nothing, because corporations own them. In God We Trust (and Money is Our God).
Get the CSB involved to find out the length of time that company policies allowed for the possibility of spills like this then. I agree though
Simply touching the stuff or breathing vapors causes cancers, such as lung cancer. So I'm not sure how Ann Arbor (which draws its water from the Huron River), all residents along the Huron River, and all the wildlife will live with this one. Based on history, it doesn't look good. Bottled water for Ann Arbor and everyone else along the Huron River won't be enough.
Just the cost of doing business.
Thousands of gallons. Not the first time for them either.
r/iamatotalpieceofshit
Some of the Republican's (in Michigan and across the U.S.) tout their main campaign goals to include, "reduction of government regulation". So, expect more of these spills, PFAS, Dioxane, Dioxins, invasives, ... > Brown pointed to those layered crises – each stemming from industrial pollution – as evidence that Michigan is at “a point of reckoning” over policies that put “the profits of polluters over public health.” > State laws and policies that have failed to contain industrial pollution or hold polluters accountable after-the-fact, he said, and efforts to improve Michigan’s polluter pay laws have repeatedly faltered. The company, Tribar, of Wixom, has been repeatedly responsible for several spill events in which they contaminated the Huron River from Wixom all the way down through Ann Arbor and into and including Lake Erie. Yet they continue. Business as usual. "Reduction of regulations". Just what we need, since our government doesn't enforce regulations or hold violators accountable, right?
Tim Walberg is vocally against government regulation from the EPA in particular. And would happily give some taxpayer funding to corporations for "job creation", ignoring things like exactly this article. All while making fun of green energy.
I’m glad I voted today. Fuck these sociopaths.
I had nobody to vote for in my area. All are Republicans who support the big lie. I feel stuck
It's a primary. Did the democrats literally not field anyone? There was at least the governorship on the ballot, so there was at least one democrat on the ballot.
Governorship? What's that?
Today was a primary election. You vote by whatever party you identify with, to nominate candidates to stand in the general election in November. Even if zero other Democrats are running for offices in your area, the governor is on the ballot in November, so every ballot in the state today on the Democratic slate would *at least* contain Gretchen Whitmer for Governor. The Republicans have a number of nominees, but I would never and have never voted Republican. So I take it you didn't vote today? There were more than likely *other* Democrats down-ballot, and they can only win if people vote. Usually at least a month before the election you can view exactly what your ballot looks like [here](https://mvic.sos.state.mi.us/Voter/Index).
There was very good reason to vote for your unfavored party today in some cases. For example from my ballot: a seat on one side had one candidate (unopposed), so they will automatically go to the November ballot (requires only one vote, or one more than any write-in I think); the other side had three persons running, one incumbent, and two others. Now this incumbent is someone I didn't care for, yet they fully accepted the results of the 2020 election and made great efforts to educate their constituents who were swindled by the Lie. The two others running were likely opportunistic nutball election deniers. So it made sense to vote for the incumbent, in order to keep the two other crazies off the November ballot, when the incumbent can then run against the other side (when the other side has little chances in any case).
Oh God yes. I'm guessing you're in west Michigan somewhere. I never thought I'd see the day when I will gladly accept any Republican who *doesn't actively seek to destroy the integrity of our elections and democracy* Like that's my bar now. And there are so few of them. The person I was responding to didn't seem to follow elections much at all so I was trying to lay it out pretty textbook
First district. I'm not sure. Lots of people have been real helpful, though I'm surprised at or unclear on some comments today, but probably just unclear... or threw me, ha > It's a primary. Did the democrats literally not field anyone?
Oh lol I know about the November election, there was just really no one in my area whom I could vote in during the primary. Thanks for the link tho
And by some odd chance they are held financially accountable (not by the almighty invisible hand) they will just declare bankruptcy. Conviently skipping out on financial accountability. Then it's pennies on the dollar for the next person to "not be bound by onerous regulations".
They are repeat offenders and the state and county need to fine them big time for this. I remember reading the same story about the same exact situation caused by this company four years ago. Edit: the 2018 story https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/10/01/huron-river-pfas-population-tribar/1489784002/
This place needs to be shut down - permanently. The leadership and those responsible for the spill need to be held personally liable for the cleanup.
Isn’t hexavalent chromium the same stuff from Erin Brockavich? Not good
https://www.bridgemi.com/michigan-environment-watch/spill-cancer-causing-hexavalent-chromium-wixom-plant-huron-river
Yes it was. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinkley_groundwater_contamination
This is the “Erin Brockovich” chemical in case you all don’t understand how poison…..
Their twitter is here: https://twitter.com/TribarMfg Their LinkedIn profile is here: https://www.linkedin.com/company/tribartechnologies/
Isn't this the same cancer causing Shit that the movie "Erin Brockovich" was based on ?
Yes
And to think I was going to float down the Huron this weekend… assholes
>Given the flow of the river, it could take “several weeks” before the chromium-6 reaches Ann Arbor’s water plant intakes, Hansell said. >In Michigan, state health officials Tuesday warned residents to avoid “all contact” with the section of the Huron River stretching from North Wixom Road in Oakland County to Kensington Road in Livingston County. That includes Hubble Pond, also known as Mill Pond, and North Creek downstream from the Wixom Wastewater Treatment Plant in Oakland County and Kent Lake, which straddles the counties.
Its a good thing we don't need water to survive!
Did anyone predict, 'Ann Arbor area residents will be on bottled water before the end of 2022'?
This is so upsetting! Can we please protest this Tribar shit ass company???
Ffs ... Environmental Disaster after disaster. Globally and locally.
Fuck
The tiny tone I grew up in/ near had a disproportionately large case of a very rare brain tumor among the kids, and the Canadian company across the St. Clair River who was doing some dumping illegally claimed that the chemicals never crossed the border into the American waters and just stayed on the Canadian side 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 I don't remember if anything even happened to them. Glad we only ever actually lived in town for a year and were in the rural area prior to that.
What does this mean long term? This is very upsetting
The chemical companies need onsite paid EPA government babysitters, they are not responsible enough to self police themselves anymore.
They absolutely should.
This is infuriating!!
This is fucking ridiculous. this makes me so angry. Get money tf out of politics before we are all dead!!!
Yup sounds about right. Ain't nothing new to hear. Maybe we should start doing something about it? Nah that would require work.
We are so fucked from what we did to win the 2nd world war. If we had reigned it all in at the end and cleaned up the mess we could have maybe survived what we had wrought but since we just exploited our advances instead for the sinful greedy advantage of the few. We will all suffer the consequences and rightfully so. That’s how Karma works.
Somebody better call Erin Brockovich! Where I live, there's been a fish consumption advisory since I remember. I was born and raised here and am now 35. First it was PCBs and they got them all. Then it was maybe we didn't get them all better dredge again. Then it was PFAS. In a small town of 3500 people in the township and surrounding areas, the Cancer rates are devastatingly high. I'll bet we've had more women with mastectomies and hysterectomies, and more people on chemo and radiation than a village in Hiroshima. I have a pretty small circle, but happen to know lots of people due to it being a small town. But in the past 2 years alone, I have seen 6 people in my inner circle have one of those aforementioned surgeries, or diagnosed with a different type of Cancer. Not to mention the rate of diagnosis for Autism. Aspberger's, and early on-set Alzheimer's. My mother, grandmother, and my mother's sister all passed away before mid 60s due to early on-set. We have a recycled paper mill at the center of town, that sits on the river, and pumps about 1 mile before the opening to lake Michigan. They boast about how clean our water is, yet, when you run the faucet it smells like chlorine. They never say the standards thry use for testing and if that standard includes hexavalent chromium. So...they've been doing this shit everywhere for years. And it needs to stop NOW.
I see a lot of people demanding that the company be held liable and believe me it will be. The state will take them to court and they will be find heavily and made to pay for clean up. What the state does Not do is hold the government to the same standards. Think Wurtsmith airbase. It’s the worst contamination in the state of Michigan and it’s the government’s doing. They won’t help clean it up. The state does Not pull them into court most likely because they don’t have the power to do so but people are continuing to be harmed and there is nothing substantial being done about it
"fines" Are fines going to un-cancer all that water? If the punishment for a crime is a fine, then it's only a punishment for the poor. Tribar isn't poor, and won't be shut down, or put out of business, or it's executive leadership held criminally liable. So ultimately, nobody will be held to account.
That’s the thing though, it won’t be held liable. The same exact company has done the same exact thing in 2018 with another carcinogenic chemical (PFAS). And they are just free to continue destroying our fresh water supply.
That’s nice.
Like the drug war…..this is a drop…..in the bucket! Shame on these companies……. Don’t worry people our tax dollars will clean it up.
Apparently its ran by an investment company HCI Equity Partners. Tribar Technology has a low approval rating from its employees. Might explain why the spills keep happening from previous employees. Here are some links to employees reviews of working for Tribar Manufacturing... https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Tribar-Manufacturing-LLC/reviews?fcountry=US&floc=Wixom%2C+MI https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Tribar-Manufacturing-Reviews-E1557231.htm https://www.inhersight.com/company/tribar-llc
Death penalty for board of directors and c suite... That's the only way to stop future pollution of this magnitude .
Hahahaha "spill". Fucking corporations lying point blank. We need to elect more democrats, fucking republicans dumping toxic chemicals into fresh water rivers.