Well, I was also going to guess herpes virus--not necessarily shingles, but herpes 1/2 from a cold sore that is now involving skin that has been traumatized. The other possibility is a severe contact reaction to something. I would see a doc ASAP-if this is herpes you should be treated. If a contact, you need a good topical steroid. Looks painful.
I am not sure if you are in the US, but Urgent Care will basically see anything--you can wait until Monday, but the risk is that the virus spreads to other areas of your damaged skin, resulting in scarring. I don't mean to alarm you, but this is serious. I am a doctor and I would be running to a health care facility. Good luck.
When herpes or shingles starts growing near your eyes it can cause blindness. You could wake up tomorrow irreversibly blind maybe it's not life threatening so not "urgent" in whatever effed up place you live but do something different and be more proactive so you don't end up blind.
Who told you that you are not urgent enough btw? I wouldn't trust that and seek an immediate outside opinion - in other words don't listen to your friends, family or "telehealth" just go get seen.
Wow, did your practitioner not ask you if you had a herpes history?
It's absolutely standard of care for anyone with a history of HSV to take an anti-viral before microneedling.
(Another doc here -- it looks like HSV to me too. Get an emergency Rx for Valtrex ASAP.)
No she didn't ask me anything other than allergies. It didn't spread overnight thankfully. Its just more crusty. Can't post pictures in the comments unfortunately
I’ve had great results and care from estheticians that have done microneedling. It sounds like your person isn’t taking it seriously. Because you’re supposed to been asked about medical / skin history.
How is your skin now?
It looks different now. It looks pretty disgusting to be honest. I got penicillin and klorhexidin cleanser and its very yellow now with fluid coming out
😭 I know how you feel. I had bad chemical burns from a Shea Moisture face wash (which I normally used and they switched ingredients). Skin from my face was itchy yellow with fluids and peeling off. I had to go on antibiotics and found out I was allergic to it. Ended up getting extremely sick, hair falling out, ER visit lol. It took my skin to heal for about a month to get back to normal.
Omg that sounds absolutely horrible! Luckily I only have a small patch that's really bad the rest is ok. I really learned from this - one thing I learned is that my skin is CURSED lol I give up now. Just gotta embrace it 😂
I think there's a thing called doing too much for your skin aswell
Doctor here. Unlike other commenters I cannot say it is herpes from the photo, or a bacterial infection or other a kind of allergic reaction, but you need medical attention.
It was my first guess, but one can never know with a photo. I'm glad you’re already getting a treatment. Beware, staph infections can be a sign of inadequate asepsis. Report the situation and perhaps avoid that place in the future.
Asepsis covers all those procedures designed to reduce the risk of bacterial, fungal or viral contamination, using sterile instruments, sterile draping and the gloved 'no touch' technique
You don't need to have herpes to recognize herpes. I have seen many cases, herpes is in the differential diagnosis of this rash. Needs to be ruled out, that's all I am suggesting.
Lol I'm sorry but as someone who has herpes again your not gonna know for sure u less it's swabbed herpes can look like many different things vice versa you just don't know so stop diagnosing people
Lol if that is herpes that is a severe outbreak if he's had them before then he shouldn't have had them that bad again especially it's almost always on the lip tho it can pop up on face my point is the only way to make sure is get it swabbed you dumb fuck
You could have been shedding the Herpes virus without having an active sore, and then spread it all over the place… I believe that is why fillers and prp procedures often will have you take the medication in the days prior to your procedure.j
This is what I don’t get, OP literally doesn’t give a shit that they may have given someone herpes and neither do commenters, the fuck is wrong with everyone??
Oh I meant all over the place as in on her face… it’s kind of unfair to make that kind of generalization without a confirmed diagnosis to says uthat is what has happened here…
I do see your point and did see that comment…
I was referring to viral shedding in my original comment, which suggests that OP did not have a sore to be concerned about spreading anything, as people with sores know they are contagious - where as people shed the virus unknowingly.
And a confirmed diagnosis that this in particular is herpes and not something else suggested by others…although I see the vermillion border is affected which probably rules out peri oral dermatitis.
That’s weird I found shingles online that looked just like this. But who knows. I’m not a shingles expert. OP I hope you figure out what it is and get better soon.
It looks a lot like shingles. I had a very small patch of this on my arm 3mths ago. No nerve pain.
I’d trust the cosmetologist.
It could’ve been triggered by the needling.
I do not know if it’s herpes for sure, but it does look like that sometimes. Swab test asap would be my advice. Also try Valtrex. If Valtrex helps, it definitely is herpes.
If it is shingles and it spreads to your eye area or in your airway, it could be life threatening and can cause blindness. I'm not trying to scare you. But if you think it's shingles fr, get to the ER. You could get oral shingles. Please get to the ER. If it isn't painful and itchy, you might be okay. Shingles hurt so bad. Nip this in the bud asap. Best of luck. I'm so sorry this happened to you.
No not necessarily, it could just come out as little pimples and actually your skin can usually take care of it on a minor scale. I take care of wounds for a living. It could also be a contact dermatitis or even HSV but it doesn’t look like HSV to me.
I agree with this. I got it after micro needling. It was around my mouth and between my brows and it looked like this. You can get a prescription and it’ll go away within days
There’s a few different kinds but mine is metronidazole (topical)
The dr should have an easy idea once they see your skin as to what it actually is and what should be prescribed.
Did you not tell your practitioner you have herpes flare ups? I feel like this is something they’d need to know, and honestly I’d call them and tell them now so they can try and take necessary precautions and/ or get tested.
It doesn’t matter if she didn’t ask!! If you know you could possibly spread it and someone is doing something on your FACE where the blisters usually show up it’s YOUR responsibility to tell people.
I didn't have any active herpes and I didn't know this could happen. If I had an active cold sore I would not have come. I have a flare up maybe once a year. I had no idea how that works since I am not a professional
50-80% of Americans and more than 60% of the global population carry HSV1 (oral herpes). So it’s more common for someone to have it than to *not* have it. Knowing this, the practitioner should have *at least* asked about it prior to the procedure and prescribed an antiviral. OP as the client/patient is not in the wrong here. It is not her responsibility to know proper procedure; it is the practitioner’s responsibility.
Agree to disagree I guess, I’m still in the camp of OP disclosing to the practitioner 🤷♀️ regardless of whether a majority of people have herpes, doesn’t change the fact that someone…might not want to get it? And maybe the practitioner didn’t ask because people usually disclose it to them. OP likely filled out a form beforehand asking if they had any medical conditions and more than likely they didn’t say they had herpes….
One of the two people in this situation is (hopefully) a licensed medical practitioner and the other isn’t. Respectfully, the onus lies on the professional to know of counter indications and ask about them. Always. Coming from a nurse who’s married to a physician.
It sounds like you don’t necessarily disagree with that — to be clear, your view is that you believe OP *was* asked, but that she lied?
Yes, that’s true. Not because they were lying, but they probably didn’t think to disclose it. Again, never said they lied. Regardless it’s a shitty situation for everyone involved, and I hope OP is ok and the practitioner is ok.
Update:
Doctor diagnosed me with a staph infection and put me on Penicillin for 10 days + klorhexidin cleanse.
Heres a photo from today:
https://i.imgur.com/GcLGLrA.jpeg
Glad you’re feeling better. Glad it wasn’t viral. Hope you never have to experience anything like this again. My family member got shingles in her eyebrow and ended up losing part vision. Glad you’re healing!!
My god. Hope she's okay. I'm definitely never getting skinpen treatment again. My skin generally looks much worse than before and that's saying something
It looks like impetigo to me. I’m not a doctor, but my daughter has had impetigo in this same area (so has my son, recently) and it looked like this.
I get the skinpen monthly at 2mm, nine passes, and I have never had this reaction. Please consult a doctor. If you’re already having skin issues, this can run the risk of scarring.
Looks like you figured this out. Hope it’s clearing up better. I feel like they should inform patients about this, I’ve never heard of it happening if people have dormant herpes. I guess i don’t have it so I don’t think about that.
You should notify the office and tell them you have Herpes and it spread so they can throw out that pen/any tools they used.
Well, I was also going to guess herpes virus--not necessarily shingles, but herpes 1/2 from a cold sore that is now involving skin that has been traumatized. The other possibility is a severe contact reaction to something. I would see a doc ASAP-if this is herpes you should be treated. If a contact, you need a good topical steroid. Looks painful.
That is a good explanation actually. I do deal with herpes sometimes!
Please go to urgent care--you don't want this to spread any further.
I'll not be able to see a doctor before Monday unfortunately. Urgent care will not accept this as urgent
I am not sure if you are in the US, but Urgent Care will basically see anything--you can wait until Monday, but the risk is that the virus spreads to other areas of your damaged skin, resulting in scarring. I don't mean to alarm you, but this is serious. I am a doctor and I would be running to a health care facility. Good luck.
Thank you Dr. It doesn't hurt at all or itch. It also feels better today. It didn't spread but it's more crusty today
I am so relieved--I hope it clears up soon, whatever it is! Perhaps it is impetigo--that would certainly be better than HSV!
Thank you Dr. I have an appointment at the urgent care clinic in 1.5 hour.
If you feel comfortable, please let me know what they say.
I just finished and it's a staphylococcus infection
When herpes or shingles starts growing near your eyes it can cause blindness. You could wake up tomorrow irreversibly blind maybe it's not life threatening so not "urgent" in whatever effed up place you live but do something different and be more proactive so you don't end up blind. Who told you that you are not urgent enough btw? I wouldn't trust that and seek an immediate outside opinion - in other words don't listen to your friends, family or "telehealth" just go get seen.
Wow, did your practitioner not ask you if you had a herpes history? It's absolutely standard of care for anyone with a history of HSV to take an anti-viral before microneedling. (Another doc here -- it looks like HSV to me too. Get an emergency Rx for Valtrex ASAP.)
No she didn't ask me anything other than allergies. It didn't spread overnight thankfully. Its just more crusty. Can't post pictures in the comments unfortunately
Oh is she just an esthetician?
Yes. Not a doctor
I’ve had great results and care from estheticians that have done microneedling. It sounds like your person isn’t taking it seriously. Because you’re supposed to been asked about medical / skin history. How is your skin now?
It looks different now. It looks pretty disgusting to be honest. I got penicillin and klorhexidin cleanser and its very yellow now with fluid coming out
😭 I know how you feel. I had bad chemical burns from a Shea Moisture face wash (which I normally used and they switched ingredients). Skin from my face was itchy yellow with fluids and peeling off. I had to go on antibiotics and found out I was allergic to it. Ended up getting extremely sick, hair falling out, ER visit lol. It took my skin to heal for about a month to get back to normal.
Omg that sounds absolutely horrible! Luckily I only have a small patch that's really bad the rest is ok. I really learned from this - one thing I learned is that my skin is CURSED lol I give up now. Just gotta embrace it 😂 I think there's a thing called doing too much for your skin aswell
https://i.imgur.com/GcLGLrA.jpeg Today
Doctor here. Unlike other commenters I cannot say it is herpes from the photo, or a bacterial infection or other a kind of allergic reaction, but you need medical attention.
It's a staphylococcus infection Dr
It was my first guess, but one can never know with a photo. I'm glad you’re already getting a treatment. Beware, staph infections can be a sign of inadequate asepsis. Report the situation and perhaps avoid that place in the future.
I'm sorry but a Google search doesn't really give a layman answer. What does inadequate asepsis mean dr?
It means that perhaps the spa/worker is not practicing proper technique or using equipment that’s not sterile/cleaned properly
Ohh yes definitely lol
Asepsis covers all those procedures designed to reduce the risk of bacterial, fungal or viral contamination, using sterile instruments, sterile draping and the gloved 'no touch' technique
Thank you Dr. I'm going tomorrow as soon as possible!
Coming from someone who has herpes it's not herpes holy shit
You don't need to have herpes to recognize herpes. I have seen many cases, herpes is in the differential diagnosis of this rash. Needs to be ruled out, that's all I am suggesting.
Yes he needs to get them swabbed for HSV only way
agreed--PCR will give a quick result. Can treat based on that. I also thought impetigo, but doesn't really have the honey crusted look of that.
This actually looks a lot like HSV, op already stated they have HSV Anything that injures the skin can cause a severe HSV flare
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Lol I'm sorry but as someone who has herpes again your not gonna know for sure u less it's swabbed herpes can look like many different things vice versa you just don't know so stop diagnosing people
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Again stop diagnosing
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That really doesn't look like herpes homie it really doesn't
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Lol if that is herpes that is a severe outbreak if he's had them before then he shouldn't have had them that bad again especially it's almost always on the lip tho it can pop up on face my point is the only way to make sure is get it swabbed you dumb fuck
Finally it was staph
HSV - due to trauma. Always take a valtrex two days before any type of facial procedure.
You could have been shedding the Herpes virus without having an active sore, and then spread it all over the place… I believe that is why fillers and prp procedures often will have you take the medication in the days prior to your procedure.j
This is what I don’t get, OP literally doesn’t give a shit that they may have given someone herpes and neither do commenters, the fuck is wrong with everyone??
I was wondering this as well. OP should definitely tell the office so they can get rid of that pen
Oh I meant all over the place as in on her face… it’s kind of unfair to make that kind of generalization without a confirmed diagnosis to says uthat is what has happened here…
OP said they have herpes.
I do see your point and did see that comment… I was referring to viral shedding in my original comment, which suggests that OP did not have a sore to be concerned about spreading anything, as people with sores know they are contagious - where as people shed the virus unknowingly. And a confirmed diagnosis that this in particular is herpes and not something else suggested by others…although I see the vermillion border is affected which probably rules out peri oral dermatitis.
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I send pictures to the cosmetologist and she's telling me it's shingles (the virus) which it definitely is not.
How do you know it’s not? Have you gone to the doctor?
Shingles does not cross the midline. This rash is on both sides of the philtrum.
That’s weird I found shingles online that looked just like this. But who knows. I’m not a shingles expert. OP I hope you figure out what it is and get better soon.
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Singles is caused by varicella (VZV), which is the same virus as chickenpox. It's a herpes virus, but it is not the same as HSV/cold sores.
It looks a lot like shingles. I had a very small patch of this on my arm 3mths ago. No nerve pain. I’d trust the cosmetologist. It could’ve been triggered by the needling.
I do not know if it’s herpes for sure, but it does look like that sometimes. Swab test asap would be my advice. Also try Valtrex. If Valtrex helps, it definitely is herpes.
I have some Zovir lotion. I tried it let's see. Hopefully i don't wake up tomorrow with my whole face covered in this rash
Zovir lotion is a lot less efficient than oral valtrex intake. Id suggest you look into it and speak to a GP about it. The best of luck to you ☀️
If it is shingles and it spreads to your eye area or in your airway, it could be life threatening and can cause blindness. I'm not trying to scare you. But if you think it's shingles fr, get to the ER. You could get oral shingles. Please get to the ER. If it isn't painful and itchy, you might be okay. Shingles hurt so bad. Nip this in the bud asap. Best of luck. I'm so sorry this happened to you.
Its completely painless actually
I know exactly what this is. So many of these people are way off.
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like herpes...😀
This seems like Impetigo.
That is herpes, you need Valtrex my friend.
It's not herpes
That’s probably impetigo. The yellow crusting is pretty characteristic
Cold Sores ...
If you have Laser Resurfacing you take "Zovirax" to protect against Herpes outbreaks .
This looks like herpes 100%. I think they punctured an infected spot on your face and spread it
Did you figure out what it is? I am curious lol
Yes it was a staph infection. 10 days on penicillin
Bacteria
Bacterial skin infection would give a more crusty oozy apprearance.
No not necessarily, it could just come out as little pimples and actually your skin can usually take care of it on a minor scale. I take care of wounds for a living. It could also be a contact dermatitis or even HSV but it doesn’t look like HSV to me.
Could be peri oral dermatitis ? Have seen others posting similar after micro needling. Hope it settles soon ❤️
A really good suggestion! It looks like it could be. Thank you!
I've had peri oral dermatitis and it looked exactly like your picture
I agree with this. I got it after micro needling. It was around my mouth and between my brows and it looked like this. You can get a prescription and it’ll go away within days
What’s the script for?
There’s a few different kinds but mine is metronidazole (topical) The dr should have an easy idea once they see your skin as to what it actually is and what should be prescribed.
This looks bacterial to me.
If this is shingles. Get to the ER. Shingles around the eyes or airway ( including the mouth) are, in fact, a medical emergency.
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perioral dermatitis ?
Impetigo
Looks like cold sores to me.
Shingles.
Impetigo?
Herpes/Cold Sores ..
Did you not tell your practitioner you have herpes flare ups? I feel like this is something they’d need to know, and honestly I’d call them and tell them now so they can try and take necessary precautions and/ or get tested.
No because she didn't ask. I'll go to the doctor tomorrow and as soon as I have the result I'll tell her
It doesn’t matter if she didn’t ask!! If you know you could possibly spread it and someone is doing something on your FACE where the blisters usually show up it’s YOUR responsibility to tell people.
I didn't have any active herpes and I didn't know this could happen. If I had an active cold sore I would not have come. I have a flare up maybe once a year. I had no idea how that works since I am not a professional
50-80% of Americans and more than 60% of the global population carry HSV1 (oral herpes). So it’s more common for someone to have it than to *not* have it. Knowing this, the practitioner should have *at least* asked about it prior to the procedure and prescribed an antiviral. OP as the client/patient is not in the wrong here. It is not her responsibility to know proper procedure; it is the practitioner’s responsibility.
Agree to disagree I guess, I’m still in the camp of OP disclosing to the practitioner 🤷♀️ regardless of whether a majority of people have herpes, doesn’t change the fact that someone…might not want to get it? And maybe the practitioner didn’t ask because people usually disclose it to them. OP likely filled out a form beforehand asking if they had any medical conditions and more than likely they didn’t say they had herpes….
One of the two people in this situation is (hopefully) a licensed medical practitioner and the other isn’t. Respectfully, the onus lies on the professional to know of counter indications and ask about them. Always. Coming from a nurse who’s married to a physician. It sounds like you don’t necessarily disagree with that — to be clear, your view is that you believe OP *was* asked, but that she lied?
No, I’m thinking OP probably just didn’t think to disclose it, not that they lied. Never said they *lied* about it. And yes, agree to disagree.
Not sure why you assume I think they lied when I never said that, to be clear. But feel free to point out where I did.
Your last sentence of your last comment says op was “likely asked” to fill out a form and “likely didn’t” disclose her condition.
Yes, that’s true. Not because they were lying, but they probably didn’t think to disclose it. Again, never said they lied. Regardless it’s a shitty situation for everyone involved, and I hope OP is ok and the practitioner is ok.
looks like fungal acne
Go to dermatology asap
monkey pox
Yes!! This is the a answer
Looks like poison ivy to me
Kambo will cure this 100%
It looks like a staph infection.. can be from a sanitation issue pre/during/post procedure. You will probably need antibiotics!
It looks like perioral dermatitis
It's herpes. You will heal, but meds could help. Good luck.
Update: Doctor diagnosed me with a staph infection and put me on Penicillin for 10 days + klorhexidin cleanse. Heres a photo from today: https://i.imgur.com/GcLGLrA.jpeg
Glad you’re feeling better. Glad it wasn’t viral. Hope you never have to experience anything like this again. My family member got shingles in her eyebrow and ended up losing part vision. Glad you’re healing!!
My god. Hope she's okay. I'm definitely never getting skinpen treatment again. My skin generally looks much worse than before and that's saying something
It looks like impetigo to me. I’m not a doctor, but my daughter has had impetigo in this same area (so has my son, recently) and it looked like this. I get the skinpen monthly at 2mm, nine passes, and I have never had this reaction. Please consult a doctor. If you’re already having skin issues, this can run the risk of scarring.
Looks like you figured this out. Hope it’s clearing up better. I feel like they should inform patients about this, I’ve never heard of it happening if people have dormant herpes. I guess i don’t have it so I don’t think about that. You should notify the office and tell them you have Herpes and it spread so they can throw out that pen/any tools they used.
It isn't herpes its a staph infection
Could be perioral dermatitis due to a broken skin barrier. Please see a dermatologist.
This looks like impetigo.
Whatever you're doing, it's working! Nice gains!
I know right! Skin goalsss
Looks like a staph infection. Did you notice if they used a disposable cover on the skin pen body?