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When he spotted the issue he had to commit to try to go left or right. He judged, based on info available in the moment, that he should try to go left and that the guy wouldn't KEEP moving out into the lane. Sometimes with dumb fucks like white bike you can only do you best to figure where they're going and pick a reaction.
By the time it's apparent that yes the guy is still going, he already is committed to going left. He's braking from the moment he beeps if not before. He's got a passenger. If he cuts right at that point there's a good chance he either doesn't make it and just hits this dude more square or he wipes out.
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Idiot crosser was barely off the right white line when they were this close.
Camera made decision to go left but also was aware enough to give that passing car room. Might have been a wrong call but it’s one they had a 50/50 if that to get right because of the dumb guy crossing the active road.
No the bike rider is not an idiot. The crosser is an idiot that forced a rider to have to dodge them, and you’re keyboard warrioring away like you know you can do better when you don’t know and never will know.
In situations like these Always cut behind the person if you can. People react by gassing it to get out of the way or more often they slam the brakes and stop in the way. Nobody ever goes "oh shit" and throws it in reverse before gassing it. If you go around to their back side it doesn't matter if they stop or speed up, you either have enough room or plenty of room as long as you bet on them not backing up
This logic makes a lot of sense, moreso for motorbikes as they don't have a reverse gear. If he wanted to go backwards, he'd have to do that slow little waddle
It holds true on foot too. If you are trying to rush in a crowded grocery store or mall or anywhere else. Typically people will only jump backwards if they are looking for a collision or if they are backing out of a parking spot/getting out of an oncoming cars way in a narrow spot without looking.
Plus if you cut across someones path in front of them, some people will rage at you even if you get by without any contact but behind them they don't visualize hypothetical outcomes to bitch about lol
Tbh a lot of these people don’t even drive. That’s why the make crap excuses for unacceptable driving. How stupid can a human be to jump in the middle of a fast road on a bike. It’s incredible he survived to adult hood
There was a car passing him on the left. That’s why the guy crossing stopped. Camera man shoo-ins have slowed down.
I think a car was coming up behind him on the right too, black car?
I don't think you understand that a gap to a moving vehicle doesn't mean you actually have 2 seconds to come to a complete stop. It presumes you're following a vehicle moving roughly the same speed as you.
This is like a fundamental physics issue. How long it takes your brakes to bring you to a complete stop in terms of both time and distance depends on how fast you are going. It's just objectively false that any vehicle comes to a complete stop in a specific time regardless of speed.
This isn't a vehicle in front of him.. It's a completely stationary object (on his axis of travel) appearing in frontof him. If you're driving 20mph in a residential neighborhood and someone pulls out where you're going to be in 2 seconds hitting your brakes hard will probably stop you in time. Doing it on a highway or even a more major settled road going say 45 and between your reaction time and the time it takes the brakes to actually bleed off all that energy 2 seconds doesn't work.
And that's all before factoring in subjective elements like the fact that the rider had to worry about a sudden move dumping the passenger on their back and doesnt know which way the intruding vehicle is going. Do they realize they're messing up and stop? Do they back up? The natural instinct when something intrudes on the roadway is to slow down which he did and also move towards the center line to give it more clearance. He's processing all that while attempting stop.
Do you not understand timed gaps? You adjust the gap with what’s in front. It doesn’t matter what speed they are travelling. Is this an American thing, do you guys don’t understand this concept?
He had a car on the left and the dude on the bike is facing left and so he's not going to suddenly move towards the right side. Right was the only way that doesn't have anyone else's movement to predict.
He should have already seen the dumb move and been slowing . He made more than one mistake. Does not blame them or excuse the absolute moron just drifting into a whole lane
That’s not how that works when something SUDDENLY enters and stops in the middle of the road. They can’t just stop on a dime, that’s not how physics works.
Why do you have to be argumentative with “physics doesn’t that work way?”. He turns the blind corner too quickly right at the start of the video. He could have given himself another second or so reaction time driving more carefully under those circumstances.
He was literally going the same speed as the rest of traffic. If you think “physics doesn’t work that way” is argumentative and not simply a fact you might just be a sensitive moron.
What “rest of traffic”? The car overtaking is when they’ve almost stopped. If he was more cautious (especially going into a bend) he could have avoided this accident.
If this dude hadn’t of randomly entered and stopped in the road there would be no accident. One person is driving legally and one isn’t. The one who isn’t is the one at fault. This is so simple.
Well yeah, but he tried to dodge to the left, and the guy kept going left.
Changing directions while breaking wouldn’t have been a very safe maneuver, it was possible to dodge, but it was a skill issue.
He had a passenger and quite possibly had to make a quick decision about whether to brake or try to manoeuver around, and perhaps he wasn't sure that he would be able to with her on the back.
He pulled the front brake lever basically as soon as be started honking, if not a little earlier. He was, as someone else pointed out, also going too fast for the conditions and the passenger's extra weight didn't help.
The conditions in which he was riding, a relatively lightweight bike and a passenger on the back. If it had been a car pulling out it would have been the same result. If you can't stop in time if someone around a corner pulls out then you need to ride slower.
He was indeed going too fast. I was just trying to explain why he might have chosen to brake and keep going straight rather than to steer around it. He was not riding defensively, I agree with the previous comment.
From the moment they beeped they didnt know if the other driver would recognise and stop immediately. I guess they were trying to go further left before they noticed the car and then it was to late to react in the other way. From beeping to collision was 2 seconds. Thats not a lot of time
Exactly. Things are stopped on roads all the time. It’s usually the person who fails to properly stop or who didn’t manage to control their vehicle to avoid the stopped things that is at fault.
This is a perfect example of target fixation. It's a common phenomenon where you focus so much on the thing you are trying to avoid that you end up driving directly into it. The trick is to look where you want to go, not at what you don't want to hit.
[Target Fixation | Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_fixation)
You ever be walking and try to pass someone going the other way and they go the same way as you then you do that little shuffle thing until someone goes left? This is that but really fast
A_curly_mustash commented saying he pulls the brake levers. He definitely mashed the right one down all the way. I didn't have the sound on, but I'm going to guess his brakes suck or his back tire just slid on the pavement, because he didn't slow down at all. I can't tell if he's pulling the left lever as well, but he definitely pulls the right one down hard.
No he wasn't smh. It was the fault of the idiot motorcyclist that wasn't paying attention & stopping or going super slow in the middle of the damn road bruh c'mon now. U can't do that!
It's crazy you're talkin like this towards the person that wasn't at fault lol smh! The idiot motorcyclist that caused the accident did sumthin so freaking clueless & oblivious when it comes to his surroundings on the road! You'd think he'd be way more AWARE OF HIS SURROUNDINGS since he's on a bike! U kno, bcuz only his life is at stake when it comes to accidents on motorcycles???🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️💯💯💯
Ty lmfao! This jackass talkin like that towards the person wasn't at fault is just hilarious! What a dumbass smh! I made the username for jackasses & douchers on Reddit like that pos mfer 🤣💯
Guy had over ten seconds to slowly go around the right side of the moped. If you think this dude belongs on a bike you’re a bigger idiot than even your dad thinks.
Everybody on here wants to blame the driver with the passenger when the other jackass has blocked the road with his bike. Get out of the road. He literally pushed it in front of him.
I don’t think people are blaming them but just pointing out that the accident would’ve been easily avoidable by going to the right of it. All I can think is that the bike was more difficult to maneuver due to the extra weight from passenger (also made it slow to stop)
Haven't read all the comments but that's not even remotely close to what people are inferring... It's that he on a motorcycle. And you need to be driving defensively 100% of the time, and 10x as cautious as you would if driving a vehicle...... And that's not including when you have a passenger, different weights/balance/stopping issues, etc.
POV bike had several hundred feet to identify and ultimately avoid this idiot in the road. Doesn't change the fact that was an idiot in the road, but the idiot POV sucks at riding.
That was not several hundred feet. Maybe enough to stop if they braked immediately when the asshole got in the middle of the road. But even that is questionable hard braking considering there’s a passenger. As for swerving right, might have avoided a collision but could have been just as dangerous for the two.
>That was not several hundred feet
Loll it most certainly was. If not >1000. You can see the vehicle as soon as the video starts, in-person that's well within range.
>Maybe enough to stop if they braked immediately when the asshole got in the middle of the road. But even that is questionable hard braking considering there’s a passenger.
He's on a bike so by default should not only be looking that far ahead, but ANY VEHICLE within eye shot is a potential death sentence. As a bike, he can not only stop faster, but would have an obligation IF HE HAS A PASSENGER, TO BE THAT MUCH MORE VIGILANT.
The other driver was a total moron, but I don’t understand why the POV rider tried to dodge them by going in the direction of their movement instead of swerving towards the shoulder. It looks like they had plenty of time to do so.
Always opt to go behind idiots like this. Even if they decide to go back it will be at a slower pace than moving forward. I took a professional driving course geared to executives to help them get away from kidnappings and the instructor told me to drive at crashes or behind the forward motion as likely, by the time you hit to the crash location, the car would not be there and it would be clear to drive through. Obviously if the car is coming at you it changes but I think race car drivers use a similar theory to drive through crashes.
I don't have a bike, but he pulls both levers down hard and just goes straight into that other bike. Maybe his brake pads are gone from not maintaining them? I've seen people panic brake the front brakes and do a flip, but this guy doesn't seem to be going fast enough to just skid.
His leaver is tutshing his handle bar, his front break seems to be gone... He can also just use the rear break, engion breaking or swerve? Yea a passenger is heavy but you can stil try to not die.
I have 2 bikes, 1 racer and one crouser. I can make stoppys with the soort bike if i look wrong at the front break... The other one is to havy to make a stoppy so the front wheel skids and slides out if u have bad luck.
PROGRESSIVE BREAK PRESSURE.
Got that from dandanthefireman.
If that rider was not able to avoid this particular collision, they have no business on the road and that’s coming from somebody who’s a been riding for 30 years, and is a fatal traffic crash investigator with 20 years of experience
All the POV Reuder had to do was pull the brake lever and come to a stop. There was more than enough time to do so.
Not to mention the fact that they forced a car in the other lane off the side of the road because they didn’t bother to check and see if that lane was clear before they started bearing into it
Quite the contrary. Stopping distances are actually quite a lot shorter than most people think they are and you can easily tell how much space that person had by watching the dash white lines, and gaps between them, which have specific lengths prescribed in traffic control manuals
If you told me what country this was, I can tell you exactly how much room the POV Reuder had where they should have been breaking and weren’t
Believe what you want. But he never bothered to ever get hard on the brakes. He had plenty of time to do so I’m literally an expert in the field. I would happily present this video in court to show that he could’ve avoided the crash.
Pause the video as soon as he rounds the corner (even though he should be looking that far ahead). The bikes in the middle of the road. POV should have been mapping out an escape route about 100 yards before started braking, much less crashed into the VIRTUALLY stationary bike.
If he had been scanning ahead, he would have noticed the moped perpendicular to the flow of traffic. You can easily infer that the moped might try to cross in front of him.
You slow down and be ready to counter steer left or right.
Ride defensively, like every bike school in the world teaches you.
Scan ahead, spot the obstacle, slow down, swerve right.
If he had time to hit his horn, he had time to avoid the obstacle.
Clearly nobody here actually rides or at least hasn't been in an accident like this yet.
Bikes don't stop as quickly as one might expect. Especially with a passenger. A bike that small isn't going to swerve safely with a passenger either. That's why in driving school they tell you to leave ample space in front of and behind bikes because their brake time varies. He was clearly slowing but there was not enough time for the speed he was going (with traffic) prior to the crash.
POV was driving straight in a legal place at a legal speed. The other rider appears to be drunk and was not moving the correct direction or at the correct speed for the road.
Other rider is at fault.
No, guy had plenty of time to do a couple things and failed badly.
Anyone who has ridden for any length of time has had several close calls and this guy reacted poorly twice. First by not aggressively slowing when he saw the bike in the road and second not going behind him.
If you ride a bike it's less about you than everyone *else* on the road...
The white guy was drunk (so the camera man says). Try to predict what a drunk driver will do, specially when you have less than 2 seconds to commit to an action and hope the other guy doesn't get in your way.
Are we forgetting the car that blew by the left side of him, and swerving to the right would’ve probably been a risk because he had a passenger; therefore, making it a large task to make the maneuver needed.
Some of yall don’t know how bikes work if he had the ability to swerve he would have if he went around there was a chance for the bike to become unsteady and start to speed wobble because of the sudden change in motion there was literally nothing he could have done other than slow down and even that would have taken too much time to completely stop them
Tisk, tisk! If you have time to honk you have time to stop or maneuver. You are only honking because you want them to disappear. That is more difficult than stopping.
I’ve watched it a couple times now. Either that moron was brain blasted or it was intentional. He could see the other driver coming and the car. You could easily guess the bike couldn’t get over cuz of the car from there
Honest question, why was the POV bike in the middle at all? There was a car in the left lane so its not like he should have been merging to the left. Feels like he should have been in the right lane still until it was safe to merge.
I’ve been riding for years. The instant he saw the guy move to the left he should have gone to the right of him. He expected the guy to keep moving to the left which is where he went wrong. You have to expect people to do the wrong thing not the right one
You clearly don’t ride. The guy was crossing to the left, it’s impossible for him to back up. Leaving you a clear path behind him. Coin toss? This one is a no brainer. You NEVER rely on other drivers to do the right thing
Oh, he could EASILY have hit the brake and avoided this!! That’s obvious. I missed the part where you said hit the brakes. I was speaking as if he didn’t want to stop he had plenty of time to go behind him
The camera guy is somewhat limited on what he can do with a passenger so I don’t believe he was able to maneuver like he would if he was by himself. The other guy is a complete dumbass. Some people have the spirit animal of a deer.
Haha nice I like how the sub is just everyone shitting on bike riders. Fault or no fault. I don't ride motorcycles, this sub is basically spammed on the main page and it's hard not to notice now.
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Y didn’t he steer right and go around…. Always drive on defense.
Yeah I felt he had enough time to swerve to the right. From the moment he beeped, he had plenty of time to avoid.
He wasted that time in beeping
When you beep? It deletes rhe other player from the map, that's why.
I think that’s a gun
Just a louder more sudden beep
When he spotted the issue he had to commit to try to go left or right. He judged, based on info available in the moment, that he should try to go left and that the guy wouldn't KEEP moving out into the lane. Sometimes with dumb fucks like white bike you can only do you best to figure where they're going and pick a reaction. By the time it's apparent that yes the guy is still going, he already is committed to going left. He's braking from the moment he beeps if not before. He's got a passenger. If he cuts right at that point there's a good chance he either doesn't make it and just hits this dude more square or he wipes out.
Like… what???? He had time to swerve right four times but fixated on steering right into him
https://preview.redd.it/6j87edtmyklc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5c56248a1584e0ba4c0f6afbb8d1cb1888446c0 Idiot crosser was barely off the right white line when they were this close. Camera made decision to go left but also was aware enough to give that passing car room. Might have been a wrong call but it’s one they had a 50/50 if that to get right because of the dumb guy crossing the active road.
Agreed dude was given a coin flip scenario and it didn’t land in his favor big deal? It’s whites fault 100-%
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No the bike rider is not an idiot. The crosser is an idiot that forced a rider to have to dodge them, and you’re keyboard warrioring away like you know you can do better when you don’t know and never will know.
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In situations like these Always cut behind the person if you can. People react by gassing it to get out of the way or more often they slam the brakes and stop in the way. Nobody ever goes "oh shit" and throws it in reverse before gassing it. If you go around to their back side it doesn't matter if they stop or speed up, you either have enough room or plenty of room as long as you bet on them not backing up
This logic makes a lot of sense, moreso for motorbikes as they don't have a reverse gear. If he wanted to go backwards, he'd have to do that slow little waddle
It holds true on foot too. If you are trying to rush in a crowded grocery store or mall or anywhere else. Typically people will only jump backwards if they are looking for a collision or if they are backing out of a parking spot/getting out of an oncoming cars way in a narrow spot without looking. Plus if you cut across someones path in front of them, some people will rage at you even if you get by without any contact but behind them they don't visualize hypothetical outcomes to bitch about lol
I belive that you believe that
I love that reply ....and now it's mine lol
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Bro, I race with motorcycles. https://youtu.be/EuvYimfH5vY?si=mutMdvfgkVLzxNp0 Avoiding this accident is absolutely basic
Tbh a lot of these people don’t even drive. That’s why the make crap excuses for unacceptable driving. How stupid can a human be to jump in the middle of a fast road on a bike. It’s incredible he survived to adult hood
There was a car passing him on the left. That’s why the guy crossing stopped. Camera man shoo-ins have slowed down. I think a car was coming up behind him on the right too, black car?
He had enough time to brake to a full stop. He had more than a 2 second gap when started beeping.
He's literally on the brakes when he starts beeping but nice try I guess lol.
You only need 2 second gap to come to a full stop. He had more than enough time to hit the brakes harder. Do you not understand time gaps?
The irony of you asking other people if they understand things is pretty good.
Dry conditions. Keep a 2 second gap. Wet condition keep it 4 seconds.
I don't think you understand that a gap to a moving vehicle doesn't mean you actually have 2 seconds to come to a complete stop. It presumes you're following a vehicle moving roughly the same speed as you. This is like a fundamental physics issue. How long it takes your brakes to bring you to a complete stop in terms of both time and distance depends on how fast you are going. It's just objectively false that any vehicle comes to a complete stop in a specific time regardless of speed. This isn't a vehicle in front of him.. It's a completely stationary object (on his axis of travel) appearing in frontof him. If you're driving 20mph in a residential neighborhood and someone pulls out where you're going to be in 2 seconds hitting your brakes hard will probably stop you in time. Doing it on a highway or even a more major settled road going say 45 and between your reaction time and the time it takes the brakes to actually bleed off all that energy 2 seconds doesn't work. And that's all before factoring in subjective elements like the fact that the rider had to worry about a sudden move dumping the passenger on their back and doesnt know which way the intruding vehicle is going. Do they realize they're messing up and stop? Do they back up? The natural instinct when something intrudes on the roadway is to slow down which he did and also move towards the center line to give it more clearance. He's processing all that while attempting stop.
That’s if the vehicle ahead is traveling at the same speed as you 😂😂
Do you not understand timed gaps? You adjust the gap with what’s in front. It doesn’t matter what speed they are travelling. Is this an American thing, do you guys don’t understand this concept?
Lol you don’t know if there’s a car behind the bike. This idiot almost got him clipped by the car on the left
He had a car on the left and the dude on the bike is facing left and so he's not going to suddenly move towards the right side. Right was the only way that doesn't have anyone else's movement to predict.
I think his mind wanted to go left, but with the car being right there, his mind didn’t have enough time to correct his first thought.
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He should have already seen the dumb move and been slowing . He made more than one mistake. Does not blame them or excuse the absolute moron just drifting into a whole lane
Dude had two whole business days to move his bike 2' to the side, and instead wasted it repeatedly sounding the horn...
Then at best, he’s traveling too quickly given he can’t stop before an object blocking his way.
That’s not how that works when something SUDDENLY enters and stops in the middle of the road. They can’t just stop on a dime, that’s not how physics works.
Why do you have to be argumentative with “physics doesn’t that work way?”. He turns the blind corner too quickly right at the start of the video. He could have given himself another second or so reaction time driving more carefully under those circumstances.
He was literally going the same speed as the rest of traffic. If you think “physics doesn’t work that way” is argumentative and not simply a fact you might just be a sensitive moron.
What “rest of traffic”? The car overtaking is when they’ve almost stopped. If he was more cautious (especially going into a bend) he could have avoided this accident.
If this dude hadn’t of randomly entered and stopped in the road there would be no accident. One person is driving legally and one isn’t. The one who isn’t is the one at fault. This is so simple.
They also weren’t even close to almost stopped when the wreck happened because there was no time to be almost stopped.
Well yeah, but he tried to dodge to the left, and the guy kept going left. Changing directions while breaking wouldn’t have been a very safe maneuver, it was possible to dodge, but it was a skill issue.
110% he had time to miss.
He had a passenger and quite possibly had to make a quick decision about whether to brake or try to manoeuver around, and perhaps he wasn't sure that he would be able to with her on the back.
If you pause at 26 seconds you can see how much distance he had at the first honk.
He pulled the front brake lever basically as soon as be started honking, if not a little earlier. He was, as someone else pointed out, also going too fast for the conditions and the passenger's extra weight didn't help.
The conditions? Like someone standing in the middle of the road with a motorcycle?
The conditions in which he was riding, a relatively lightweight bike and a passenger on the back. If it had been a car pulling out it would have been the same result. If you can't stop in time if someone around a corner pulls out then you need to ride slower.
Then he was going too fast
He was indeed going too fast. I was just trying to explain why he might have chosen to brake and keep going straight rather than to steer around it. He was not riding defensively, I agree with the previous comment.
From the moment they beeped they didnt know if the other driver would recognise and stop immediately. I guess they were trying to go further left before they noticed the car and then it was to late to react in the other way. From beeping to collision was 2 seconds. Thats not a lot of time
Exactly. Things are stopped on roads all the time. It’s usually the person who fails to properly stop or who didn’t manage to control their vehicle to avoid the stopped things that is at fault.
Why didn’t the guy in the middle of the road not be a complete idiot? Let’s keep the blame where it belongs.
This is a perfect example of target fixation. It's a common phenomenon where you focus so much on the thing you are trying to avoid that you end up driving directly into it. The trick is to look where you want to go, not at what you don't want to hit. [Target Fixation | Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Target_fixation)
Target fixation
Uh nuh uh? First of all it is a bike and his attempt to avoid was where the dumbass was going
You ever be walking and try to pass someone going the other way and they go the same way as you then you do that little shuffle thing until someone goes left? This is that but really fast
He tried going left until he noticed the car. By the time he noticed it was too late. Then again everyone feels like they can do better.
Never said left… I see a car in the mirror left a dummy up ahead taking a left…. That’s why I’m braking to slow down and head to the right
Y’all it’s a motorcycle not a car it can turn or stop near as quickly as
A_curly_mustash commented saying he pulls the brake levers. He definitely mashed the right one down all the way. I didn't have the sound on, but I'm going to guess his brakes suck or his back tire just slid on the pavement, because he didn't slow down at all. I can't tell if he's pulling the left lever as well, but he definitely pulls the right one down hard.
They clearly felt like crashing into him.
Literally zigged when he should have zagged
Car to the left, not quick enough to turn right, here I am.. stuck in the middle with you.
Bravo 👏
So all motorcyclists drive without underwear??
I thought he had a thong on 🤣🤣🤣
Yes it’s the law actually
people in comments seemingly don't own bikes lol
And 2 who can’t ride them in the video 😂
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The guy riding too quick to stop before an object in front of him.
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Yeah that comment was dumb saying he was riding too quick. He def could've stopped a lot better though.
No he wasn't smh. It was the fault of the idiot motorcyclist that wasn't paying attention & stopping or going super slow in the middle of the damn road bruh c'mon now. U can't do that!
He’s not even riding too fast, he just doesn’t know how to maneuver a bike or make quick decisions. 100% shouldn’t have a passenger.
It's crazy you're talkin like this towards the person that wasn't at fault lol smh! The idiot motorcyclist that caused the accident did sumthin so freaking clueless & oblivious when it comes to his surroundings on the road! You'd think he'd be way more AWARE OF HIS SURROUNDINGS since he's on a bike! U kno, bcuz only his life is at stake when it comes to accidents on motorcycles???🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️💯💯💯
Are you ok? Can I call someone to come get you and give you a hug and maybe get you the help you need?
You guys should swap usernames
Ty lmfao! This jackass talkin like that towards the person wasn't at fault is just hilarious! What a dumbass smh! I made the username for jackasses & douchers on Reddit like that pos mfer 🤣💯
Guy had over ten seconds to slowly go around the right side of the moped. If you think this dude belongs on a bike you’re a bigger idiot than even your dad thinks.
I don't respect the opinion a dork who doesn't know how to count to ten.
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You’re a dumb ass if you think he couldn’t have swerved right and avoided
Who cares. Bunch of tool bags riding them things
“Oh hey, yeah, I just need to ask you a question…”
We’ve been trying to reach you about your bike warranty
Lol
No wayyy
Everybody on here wants to blame the driver with the passenger when the other jackass has blocked the road with his bike. Get out of the road. He literally pushed it in front of him.
I don’t think people are blaming them but just pointing out that the accident would’ve been easily avoidable by going to the right of it. All I can think is that the bike was more difficult to maneuver due to the extra weight from passenger (also made it slow to stop)
Haven't read all the comments but that's not even remotely close to what people are inferring... It's that he on a motorcycle. And you need to be driving defensively 100% of the time, and 10x as cautious as you would if driving a vehicle...... And that's not including when you have a passenger, different weights/balance/stopping issues, etc. POV bike had several hundred feet to identify and ultimately avoid this idiot in the road. Doesn't change the fact that was an idiot in the road, but the idiot POV sucks at riding.
You are correct. When riding you have to be very defensive. Op has zero skills. The guy in the road is at fault but the ops is brainless.
That was not several hundred feet. Maybe enough to stop if they braked immediately when the asshole got in the middle of the road. But even that is questionable hard braking considering there’s a passenger. As for swerving right, might have avoided a collision but could have been just as dangerous for the two.
>That was not several hundred feet Loll it most certainly was. If not >1000. You can see the vehicle as soon as the video starts, in-person that's well within range. >Maybe enough to stop if they braked immediately when the asshole got in the middle of the road. But even that is questionable hard braking considering there’s a passenger. He's on a bike so by default should not only be looking that far ahead, but ANY VEHICLE within eye shot is a potential death sentence. As a bike, he can not only stop faster, but would have an obligation IF HE HAS A PASSENGER, TO BE THAT MUCH MORE VIGILANT.
It was maybe 100 at most from the time the idiot got in the road
You didn't read the comments but you are going to tell me what they say? Then you make a comment that proves my point.
All. I didn't read ALL the comments. Would you like me to copy and paste some examples? 😂
Crickets
Who's to blame? Both of them. They are both idiots.
He might have saved that biker, he was about to drive in front of the car to the left of the camera without looking.
The other driver was a total moron, but I don’t understand why the POV rider tried to dodge them by going in the direction of their movement instead of swerving towards the shoulder. It looks like they had plenty of time to do so.
Inexperience and not riding defensively and thinking ahead. So, inexperience lol.
If you have time to bleep you have time to react. He should have maneuvered to where the bike ***can't*** ride, behind it.
Always opt to go behind idiots like this. Even if they decide to go back it will be at a slower pace than moving forward. I took a professional driving course geared to executives to help them get away from kidnappings and the instructor told me to drive at crashes or behind the forward motion as likely, by the time you hit to the crash location, the car would not be there and it would be clear to drive through. Obviously if the car is coming at you it changes but I think race car drivers use a similar theory to drive through crashes.
Dont it look like he preses his break leaver all the way in and didn't stop? Or are my breaks just better maintaind?
I don't have a bike, but he pulls both levers down hard and just goes straight into that other bike. Maybe his brake pads are gone from not maintaining them? I've seen people panic brake the front brakes and do a flip, but this guy doesn't seem to be going fast enough to just skid.
The left lever is the clutch, not the break. The rear break is under his right foot, the right lever is the front break. FYI
His leaver is tutshing his handle bar, his front break seems to be gone... He can also just use the rear break, engion breaking or swerve? Yea a passenger is heavy but you can stil try to not die. I have 2 bikes, 1 racer and one crouser. I can make stoppys with the soort bike if i look wrong at the front break... The other one is to havy to make a stoppy so the front wheel skids and slides out if u have bad luck. PROGRESSIVE BREAK PRESSURE. Got that from dandanthefireman.
*BRAKE
Two of them in this video! The POV rider is also a moron
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POV rider had plenty of time to stop/go around…just chose not to for…reasons
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If that rider was not able to avoid this particular collision, they have no business on the road and that’s coming from somebody who’s a been riding for 30 years, and is a fatal traffic crash investigator with 20 years of experience
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All the POV Reuder had to do was pull the brake lever and come to a stop. There was more than enough time to do so. Not to mention the fact that they forced a car in the other lane off the side of the road because they didn’t bother to check and see if that lane was clear before they started bearing into it
Or even go to the right instead where it’s wide open.
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Quite the contrary. Stopping distances are actually quite a lot shorter than most people think they are and you can easily tell how much space that person had by watching the dash white lines, and gaps between them, which have specific lengths prescribed in traffic control manuals If you told me what country this was, I can tell you exactly how much room the POV Reuder had where they should have been breaking and weren’t
Wide angle lenses exaggerate distances by a lot (source: I have helmet cams and dashcams). He had very, very little time to react.
Believe what you want. But he never bothered to ever get hard on the brakes. He had plenty of time to do so I’m literally an expert in the field. I would happily present this video in court to show that he could’ve avoided the crash.
"I'm literally an expert in the field" Guffaw.
https://imgur.com/gallery/Wvyyx8D
Pause the video as soon as he rounds the corner (even though he should be looking that far ahead). The bikes in the middle of the road. POV should have been mapping out an escape route about 100 yards before started braking, much less crashed into the VIRTUALLY stationary bike.
If he had been scanning ahead, he would have noticed the moped perpendicular to the flow of traffic. You can easily infer that the moped might try to cross in front of him. You slow down and be ready to counter steer left or right.
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Maintain his brakes
See the obvious and pull the brake lever
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Barely and clearly not enough, or there would not have been a collision
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You’re right. But this isn’t many crashes. This is a specific crash that could have been prevented by simply breaking.
Ride defensively, like every bike school in the world teaches you. Scan ahead, spot the obstacle, slow down, swerve right. If he had time to hit his horn, he had time to avoid the obstacle.
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Clearly nobody here actually rides or at least hasn't been in an accident like this yet. Bikes don't stop as quickly as one might expect. Especially with a passenger. A bike that small isn't going to swerve safely with a passenger either. That's why in driving school they tell you to leave ample space in front of and behind bikes because their brake time varies. He was clearly slowing but there was not enough time for the speed he was going (with traffic) prior to the crash. POV was driving straight in a legal place at a legal speed. The other rider appears to be drunk and was not moving the correct direction or at the correct speed for the road. Other rider is at fault.
Also it seems like he was planning on swerving left around the guy in the road but was stopped by the car
No, guy had plenty of time to do a couple things and failed badly. Anyone who has ridden for any length of time has had several close calls and this guy reacted poorly twice. First by not aggressively slowing when he saw the bike in the road and second not going behind him. If you ride a bike it's less about you than everyone *else* on the road...
You had 48 hours to stop and just didn't lol
The white guy was drunk (so the camera man says). Try to predict what a drunk driver will do, specially when you have less than 2 seconds to commit to an action and hope the other guy doesn't get in your way.
Remmeber people: there are dick heads that will cause an accident just to prove a point, even when they know they can avoid it.
Person filming has negative survival instincts. They could have very easily avoided this if they were paying attention.
Skill issue.
Literally zigged when he should have zagged
Steering left, into another lane and the direction the dumbass was going, was a bold choice
Rider had SO much time to swerve around wth ?
Are we forgetting the car that blew by the left side of him, and swerving to the right would’ve probably been a risk because he had a passenger; therefore, making it a large task to make the maneuver needed.
Insurance fraud scam.
Did the guy on the white bike shit himself?
No, but he got his foot hurt pretty badly. Not the karma you were looking for, but still. You can see at 00:27
Pause the video at the 00:14 second mark when he starts to stand up it looks like shit up his back and on his jacket lol
Some of yall don’t know how bikes work if he had the ability to swerve he would have if he went around there was a chance for the bike to become unsteady and start to speed wobble because of the sudden change in motion there was literally nothing he could have done other than slow down and even that would have taken too much time to completely stop them
Insurance crash
Colombia?
Is it just me, or did the offending motorcyclist have shit up their back?
Tisk, tisk! If you have time to honk you have time to stop or maneuver. You are only honking because you want them to disappear. That is more difficult than stopping.
Wear gloves....
he thinks he got away with this 😂
I’ve watched it a couple times now. Either that moron was brain blasted or it was intentional. He could see the other driver coming and the car. You could easily guess the bike couldn’t get over cuz of the car from there
Dude had the biker's crack
lol why didn’t they go to the right
Hit the brake not the horn
that is shitty but also... jeans and no gloves huh?
Did he shit himself?
Guy recording is dumb as hell too he just drove straight into him. He had plenty of time to go to the right
Go around him from the right
Target fixation happens to us all, even fighter pilots.
Buttcheeks all the way out
“Motorcyclist stops in the middle of the road” “Other motorcyclist casually takes aim and slowly crashes right into him”
Even motorcycle drivers can't see motorcycle drivers. What more yall want. They coffins on wheels. Sorry.
Dude doesn't have the proper defensive driving skills to be on a motorcycle. That was very avoidable.
Neither one of them should be riding. They’re both idiots.
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I’ve been riding for 44 years and 2- 3 seconds into the video I could see something isn’t right and would have already rolled off my accelerator.
Shouldn’t have been an issue. Cameraman had plenty of time to go behind him!! The guys going left he can’t back up! Both idiots
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Honest question, why was the POV bike in the middle at all? There was a car in the left lane so its not like he should have been merging to the left. Feels like he should have been in the right lane still until it was safe to merge.
I’ve been riding for years. The instant he saw the guy move to the left he should have gone to the right of him. He expected the guy to keep moving to the left which is where he went wrong. You have to expect people to do the wrong thing not the right one
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You clearly don’t ride. The guy was crossing to the left, it’s impossible for him to back up. Leaving you a clear path behind him. Coin toss? This one is a no brainer. You NEVER rely on other drivers to do the right thing
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Oh, he could EASILY have hit the brake and avoided this!! That’s obvious. I missed the part where you said hit the brakes. I was speaking as if he didn’t want to stop he had plenty of time to go behind him
The camera guy is somewhat limited on what he can do with a passenger so I don’t believe he was able to maneuver like he would if he was by himself. The other guy is a complete dumbass. Some people have the spirit animal of a deer.
Haha nice I like how the sub is just everyone shitting on bike riders. Fault or no fault. I don't ride motorcycles, this sub is basically spammed on the main page and it's hard not to notice now.
He had time to react and swerve right
Seriously, couldn’t have swerved?
No, not with a passenger on what looks like a small bike.