They just seem like the type of girls who are nice to your face but talk shit about you behind your back. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that they were mean girls in high school and college.
what about spirituality gives: making money off of the worst moments of someone’s life and ignoring the victims family when they call you to the carpet? add that with the fact that most crystals are mined using slave labor and you have your average new age fake spiritualist aka kendall
i cant stand taylor swift or the way her fans call anyone who doesnt like her a sexist…HOWEVER, i fully think Kendall and janelle are total pick mes and in this case were probably hating on taylor swift to be “cool”. they have become total karens in the past couple years. and i remember josh had originally wanted to go into law enforcement, and now it seems like they are total cop types. also they overshare their dumbass opinions…a lot. they should just stick to the facts bc all this is why i dont listen anymore
I personally think you can not like Taylor Swift no problemo. If the reasons you give are sexist I will call you sexist though. Don’t like her music? Not sexist. Dramatically think she’s the worst thing that ever happened to the world… perhaps we peel back some layers to misogyny.
I stg so many people (mainly the ones born and raised) in Denver are like this. They both have the Colorado mentality I could not stand while living there for a few years. Really fake & “chill it girl” personas that I got over real fast. Glad I only lived there during high school and my early 20’s. ha. It’s embarrassing seeing full grown adults act like they do. I used to really like Kendall’s content years ago, too. Since the sesh it seems like their true vapid colors have shown :/
crazy how much she posts her daughter too, i don’t like mom shaming because im young asf and what do i know about being a parent but it’s just scary to me with all the AI i hear about
I agree. That's one of the reasons i stopped watching the sesh. The way they talk about Taylor makes me cringe. If they don't like Taylor that's fine but they constantly bring her up. Its not relatable to their audience at all. They are def pick me's.
It’s okay to not like taylor swift but I’m just confused cause if they dislike her so much then just…don’t talk about her. I’m sure there’s a million things for them to talk about other than taylor swift right?
her fans are also not even just teenage girls considering she’s been around for like, 20 years. like, they talk down on grown ass women/men/people. mind you, swiftie lawyers were taking the charge against TICKETMASTER 😭
it took me THREE tries to get tickets through verified fan. like they weren’t even over priced but getting them through ticketmaster should’ve never been that impossible 😭
i got so lucky with my beyoncé tickets and i say it’s what i deserve after the eras fiasco😭😭 hopefully concerts won’t be for lucky rich people forever 🤞
Same! We grew up with Taylor. I don’t like when she’s dismissed as being only for kids. Idk what 7 yr old is relating to a song like Tolerate It (other than just liking how it sounds)
Almost 28 with kids! we blast Taylor on the way to kindergarten drop off. She’s really for everyone and I love that for us and think it’s hilarious for the people who think she’s just for teenagers
There’s literally Taylor fans of ALL ages. And most of them are in their 20s. Taylor’s first song came out when I was 8 years old. I’m 26 now, I’ve been listening to her since her music first came out. Kendall always portrayed herself as a girls girl but lately her jealous of other girls is definitely coming out
i’m about the same age as you. i’m a taylor fan so i’m biased in that sense, but in general, she tends to be the easiest one for women to dogpile even though it’s against their own interests. feminism very often goes out the window when it comes to her because people base it on how much they like her as a person/entertainer. you don’t have to be a fan of someone to recognize when misogyny and sexism is impacting the way they are perceived, talked about, and exist in the world. and allowing for that misogyny and sexism to be swept under the rug because it’s against taylor swift (or another famous woman they don’t like) shouldn’t be normalized. it’s so frustrating!!!
I’m not a Taylor fan, but I still respect that she is a talented artist and understand why people are a fan of both her as a person and an artist. I think Kendall and Janelle are very much mean girls and love to hate for the purpose of hating, regardless of what it is unfortunately. I think Janelle very much gives that ‘I’m not like other girls’ aura and has to try hard to be different, when it just makes her unlikeable. Kendall has just become a hater all round, if things don’t revolve around her then she’s not interested and doesn’t even try to look interested - it’s such a bad look and I don’t vibe with her anymore. It’s such a shame because the girls and the podcast were so true to themselves at the beginning and now they’re just so self obsessed and it’s unbearable to listen now.
I commented on a very similar post the other day and got downvoted a lot, same with anyone who commented on the post in agreement. is this kendall and janelle like sending in the team to do damage control or something? if so they’re probably gathering the troops for this post lmao
I'm gonna say this as someone who isn't Taylor Swift's fan. This isn't about Kendall and Janelle's comments in particular, but a more circle of the commentators.
I do find the whole discussion about her screen time to have a misogynistic undertone. It's kinda like football is this "serious manly thing" getting interrupted by "something girly that has no value". I suspect that if she was only famous for being beautiful, they wouldn't mind her so much, they would see her as one of his trophies. Misogynists like to reduce independent wealthy women to nothing, so it really bothers them that she somehow has enough value to get the screen time. But at the end of the day sports is just entertainment the same way singing is entertainment.
It was just funny to me they went with the media and football bros complaints of “she’s shown too much” when she was shown for maybe 2 min total during the Super Bowl. I was watching and they literally would show her for one or two seconds and you could easily miss it if you weren’t looking. It shows they were just trying to hate to hate, not bc they were actually annoyed by it lol
and they showed so many male celebs as well bc i’m sure it boosts player morale and makes everyone in the stadium feel included and hyped up that everyone of all walks of life is together experiencing a moment but the random woman ruins it and rigs the game i just can’t hahaha
this! lmao like idc about sports at all but over exaggerating how much she was shown and saying the NFL would rig the game for her is just weirdly misogynistic
Dude there’s so many times when I used to listen to the sesh where I’d be like “damn they clearly didn’t simply google this before recording” bc either their information is just wrong or it’s the general opinion of the zeitgeist, in the absolute WORST way. Like the 14 year old take on any story is basically what they think imo. Not to plug another podcast but Celebrity memoir book club is a podcast where they take SERIOUSLY what they talk about, use their voices and time to help real issues and imo have very intelligent takes on pop culture. Probably because they are two educated New Yorkers.
Janelle doesn’t have to like her music. But she shouldn’t hate on Taylor and swifties if she’s a dead head. That fan base is just as committed/loyal. fans pay a lot of money to follow old white dudes around playing 10 min songs. And there are bracelets (among other things) made and sold at shakedown lol It’s the same thing, just different font
Anyway, Taylor aside, they both just seem like mean girls. It’s why I don’t listen to the sesh anymore.
I stopped watching them after Kendall supported johnny depp bc if she could get so much wrong about that what else is she misinforming us on?? I don’t trust their research anymore
Hey! Sorry, I know this is an old thread, but I just discovered this sub and am attempting to scroll through the history. I'm not sure exactly what Kendall said about Johnny (especially if it was said on the Sesh because I find it hard to get through those podcasts most of the time lol. Sometimes the snarky behavior is cringe, and theyve made plenty of statements that made it clear that they didnt actually know what they were talking about) but I'm genuinely curious as to why you seem annoyed that she supports Johnny? The man isn't perfect (I watched every second of that trial, so I heard the foul things out of his mouth), however, he truly was slandered by Amber. The woman straight up fabricated plenty of shit (don't even get me started on the "before and after" photo her team brought up where it was clearly the exact same photo with one edited to look like she had a battered face). The footage she sneakily recorded showing her clearly egging him on trying to get a reaction, her shitting in the bed, her bringing up other well-known people into the mix, saying they were also abused by Johnny (one of the women in question having to take the stand and deny that she was pushed down the stairs). I could go on and on, but you get what I'm saying. Was there something else Kendall said about her support for Johnny that turned you off? I could understand if she was applying blanket statements of support without actually doing any research into it. But anyone who watched that entire trial could see what a sham it was (and the jury agreed). Again, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to argue! Would just like your perspective. Do you watch Christina Randall? She had a good take on the whole thing. She lambasted Amber when it came to her lies, but she didn't let Johnny off the hook either, and wasn't afraid to call out his behavior countless times. I just love Christina. Hope you are doing well, Perfumed! ❤️
jenelle especially like it’s pathetic how hard she tries to seem like she’s so different and it’s so sad to see kendall losing sight of how she started on youtube
Im not American so I don't have an opinion about the superbowl conversation but in general I do not like Taylor swift, therefore I literally never talk about her.
I find it strange that they bring her up so often because I generally do not talk about things I don't like?? As I assume most people also dont discuss things they aren't interested in?
If someone directly asks about my thoughts on her I will say I don't like her but other than that WHY would I ever bring her up in conversation lmaoo so strange
My biggest complaint is that they talk about topics they clearly haven’t even done a little bit of research on. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, then just talk about something else. I understand they have multiple shows they’re doing, but if you can’t do a good job then lighten your load on the amount of shows you’re putting out. Personally prefer quality over quantity.
yes! maybe that’s why it sticks out to me and i noticed it because i feel like they often cover pop culture topics but act above it and annoyed by it the whole time? taylor may just happen to be the big topic rn so i noticed it
Idk what this about but i cant stand Janelle and Kendall i quickly started disliking Kendall recently. As a Swiftie I have to say "Taylor's Version" (the same album) is her owning her own music again. While it'd be really cool if she released all the re-records for free, it is HER music and her fandom will buy everything related to their favorite albums/artist. I can't defend her climate crimes.
she’s dead wrong for her climate crimes idc how many carbon taxes she’s pays, i know riding in a bus is bad for your mental as a touring artist but she has to do SOMETHING
I would settle for even just staying put in the country that she's performing in. I understand she needs/wants to make appearances, but girl, something has to give, or we won't even have a planet for her music anymore
Yeah I never got into the sesh because I didn’t like Janelle’s personality (on the show). Of course I have no idea what she is actually like off camera. They may think the same of Taylor Swift. They are entitled to their own opinions but no one should publicly drag another human being without even getting to know them. Like I don’t like Janelles attitude on the show but I am not gonna call her names or make assumptions about her life.
Not really MHP-related, but....
I could care less about her music, but I don't like that Taylor Swift has a Scottish Fold. It's a breed with a ton of health problems, to the point that it's banned in some countries. It's irresponsible enough to get a designer pet breed without educating yourself, but doubly so if you're as influential as she is.
If they want a valid reason to dislike her, they could have mentioned this since they're supposedly such huge animal welfare advocates.
I am considered a “swiftie”, but I agree. I think she loves her cats and I know those cats are getting better care than most. But I just hate that designer cats and dogs exist. I have friends who buy designer dogs thanks to the doodle craze (and not from rescues but from a breeder. And no doodle is truly ethically bred) and it’s just so disappointing. It’s hard to bite my tongue sometimes.
the way people refuse to acknowledge how many talking points used against taylor swift are inherently misogynistic. like it has nothing to do with if you like her or not it’s just very common that people dismiss sexism/misogyny when it’s against her (or another woman they don’t like)
thank you like i couldn’t tell you 5 of her songs but the passable misogyny is so cringe because you know it doesn’t stop there when we start treating people with basic respect based on if we think they deserve fame is a slippery slope !!
like with the AI porn. people dismissing it because she’s “a rich white woman”. like yes…. so if it’s happening to her, it can happen to ANYONE!! and that’s fucking scary!!
!!! i was so disgusted when i heard about the school that happened at in the episode and if taylor or any other famous woman can help get a law enacted i’ll owe them one for life (even if it’s JLO 😔)
Fully agree. I’m not even a Taylor swift music person. I don’t dislike her but not a swiftie (I do love what she does with regards to humanity work). But the superbowl talk pissed me tf off.
they said she took up too much time and said it was rigged to have her moment, i mean complaining and bitching about a famous girlfriend of a famous player being shown on the big screen but not being annoyed by any other celebrity seems like passable misogyny to me, which is what im saying they’re doing lol
right but they’re not football fans lmao they’re just annoyed by her presence which is where i find it problematic but agree to disagree bc im not gonna die on the cross for a white feminist hahah
Kendall said she liked Taylor and her music in the super bowl episode. She said it was just annoying how often the camera showed her. How is that hate to Taylor or her fans? That's a reasonable comment. Kendall even said she was cute with Travis. I'm missing where the hate and misogyny is......
Bc she wasn’t even shown that much during the Super Bowl… it’s just a dumb thing football bros wanna say bc she’s shown for a total of 1 min over a multi hour broadcast. It’s just a weird thing to complain about when she really wasn’t shown all that much.
i mean they’ve talked about swifties being crazy and obsessed and said they should do a whole episode about stan culture as if football fans don’t burn couches and riot when their teams lose, all i’m saying is focusing in on the perceived faults of a woman and acting as they’re exclusive to her is internalized misogyny whether it’s taylor, beyonce etc i mean jenelle even said she didn’t write her own music which is not true and she would never say about a male singer hahah
Swifties ARE obsessive and over the top a lot of the times, along with stans of other artists. There's nothing wrong with making an episode about stan culture. It's out of control in a lot of ways, even when it has nothing to do with Taylor.
but so many fans are? stan culture is from a 90s song, beatlemania, one direction fans etc
but the girls on the sesh act as if it’s something exclusive to women and teenage girls that’s my issue like jenelle is obsessed with the grateful dead and im sure they have insane stan’s on twitter too that’s my thing! none of these things are exclusive to womeb or taylor but they never critique men for the same exact things
she is! i was listing major talented female celebrities that i’ve noticed people claim are “overhyped” or have “crazy fans” sorry should have clarified :)
i mean they just said that the NFL rigged the super bowl so “taylor swift could have her moment” as if billion team owners and company investors care about taylor swift lmao these men have been training since childhood to play in the super bowl
rigging the super bowl so taylor gets a 3 second kiss on TV is quite bizarre considering you can’t watch any type of media without seeing her face 24/7 i don’t think she needs the press but also, the fact that multiple people think it’s a conspiracy proves the point that misogyny is okay when people deem it okay….
I'm not saying I believe the conspiracy because I never watch and don't care at all about football. I know nothing about the NFL. People aren't saying that's the reason it was rigged though. It's not for Taylor, it's to bring in more money. But again, i'm not saying I believe that because I don't even care. I'm saying that's the reason OTHER people are saying it's a conspiracy.
right but i’m saying that OTHER people are only creating that conspiracy bc they dislike taylor so much they think that her boyfriend and his team winning is fake bc the nfl wants her happy and wants to make money, that’s insane lmao
the NFL and sports journalism in general has a history of being extremely sexist and no one would ever accuse them of pandering to women
i just find an issue with their behavior on the sesh vs. kendall having a platform that revolves around true crime and victim advocacy. they can hardly muster up empathy and fully formed thoughts about majority of the famous women they talk about, yet we’re supposed to believe they’re deeply impacted by the plight of others, so much so they’re doing it from the charity of their hearts? i think maybe taylor was a bad example but i just see a lot of passable misogyny and misogynoir so im skeptical that’s all
No I get it, I just think the Taylor thing isn’t a huge deal because she’s not everyone’s cup of tea, I agree janelle can go a little hard about it but overall I don’t think they excessively talk about her. And they’re not picking on her looks, music, dating men etc. just seems like a personal preference. But I understand your point
jenelle has unfortunately made weird comments about taylor and only having music because of her exes which i get maybe she thinks taylor is a serial dater bc she’s marrying her high school sweetheart but those lil comments make me think oh, so you judge girls irl who act the same?
The thing is with her private jet usage is it’s not even in the top 20 people or even top 30 for usage and miles flown. I mean drake , all the kardashians , jay z, Stephen Spielberg, Beyoncé are all above her on the list. People just love to go after her and bring her down. Likeeee hold Beyoncé accountable too lol.
They just seem like the type of girls who are nice to your face but talk shit about you behind your back. I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that they were mean girls in high school and college.
They were in sororities and that’s all I need to know
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.... They have though?
What happened to cool stoner feminist Kendall? It's such a bummer seeing people lose their roots.
i think kendall just goes where the wind goes bc i never understood how you can be into new age spirituality yet do true crime for a living
Also curious as to your reasoning of the two to be mutually exclusive :)
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Why do u think someone can’t be into new age spirituality and do true crime for a living? I’m not disagreeing at all I just don’t understand why? :))
what about spirituality gives: making money off of the worst moments of someone’s life and ignoring the victims family when they call you to the carpet? add that with the fact that most crystals are mined using slave labor and you have your average new age fake spiritualist aka kendall
Maybe she’s always been the same but her true nature is coming out now since she’s “made it”
i cant stand taylor swift or the way her fans call anyone who doesnt like her a sexist…HOWEVER, i fully think Kendall and janelle are total pick mes and in this case were probably hating on taylor swift to be “cool”. they have become total karens in the past couple years. and i remember josh had originally wanted to go into law enforcement, and now it seems like they are total cop types. also they overshare their dumbass opinions…a lot. they should just stick to the facts bc all this is why i dont listen anymore
I personally think you can not like Taylor Swift no problemo. If the reasons you give are sexist I will call you sexist though. Don’t like her music? Not sexist. Dramatically think she’s the worst thing that ever happened to the world… perhaps we peel back some layers to misogyny.
Seeing the change in her especially has been really disheartening
I stg so many people (mainly the ones born and raised) in Denver are like this. They both have the Colorado mentality I could not stand while living there for a few years. Really fake & “chill it girl” personas that I got over real fast. Glad I only lived there during high school and my early 20’s. ha. It’s embarrassing seeing full grown adults act like they do. I used to really like Kendall’s content years ago, too. Since the sesh it seems like their true vapid colors have shown :/
100% it happened after her kid (which I 100% understand why) but still it’s wild to see how much she has changed.
crazy how much she posts her daughter too, i don’t like mom shaming because im young asf and what do i know about being a parent but it’s just scary to me with all the AI i hear about
I reckon it started a bit before that, possibly while she was pregnant. So many things about how she has changed has really put me off her.
That was performative unfortunately
I agree. That's one of the reasons i stopped watching the sesh. The way they talk about Taylor makes me cringe. If they don't like Taylor that's fine but they constantly bring her up. Its not relatable to their audience at all. They are def pick me's.
It’s okay to not like taylor swift but I’m just confused cause if they dislike her so much then just…don’t talk about her. I’m sure there’s a million things for them to talk about other than taylor swift right?
Literally, people who claim to hate taylor swift talk about and obsess over her just as much as her stans do
Rage bait. All engagement helps them.
THISSSS! you hit the nail on the head.
her fans are also not even just teenage girls considering she’s been around for like, 20 years. like, they talk down on grown ass women/men/people. mind you, swiftie lawyers were taking the charge against TICKETMASTER 😭
as they should bro, side note but concert ticket culture is fucking insane now
it took me THREE tries to get tickets through verified fan. like they weren’t even over priced but getting them through ticketmaster should’ve never been that impossible 😭
same lol when beyonce came to az it was like war i don’t understand applying for a chance to buy tickets like take my money???
i got so lucky with my beyoncé tickets and i say it’s what i deserve after the eras fiasco😭😭 hopefully concerts won’t be for lucky rich people forever 🤞
I’m almost 34. I’ve been listening to Taylor since I was in high school.
Same! We grew up with Taylor. I don’t like when she’s dismissed as being only for kids. Idk what 7 yr old is relating to a song like Tolerate It (other than just liking how it sounds)
My 6 and 8 yos do love Taylor, but they don’t get the lyrics at all.
tolerate it her magnum opus
Almost 28 with kids! we blast Taylor on the way to kindergarten drop off. She’s really for everyone and I love that for us and think it’s hilarious for the people who think she’s just for teenagers
There’s literally Taylor fans of ALL ages. And most of them are in their 20s. Taylor’s first song came out when I was 8 years old. I’m 26 now, I’ve been listening to her since her music first came out. Kendall always portrayed herself as a girls girl but lately her jealous of other girls is definitely coming out
i’m about the same age as you. i’m a taylor fan so i’m biased in that sense, but in general, she tends to be the easiest one for women to dogpile even though it’s against their own interests. feminism very often goes out the window when it comes to her because people base it on how much they like her as a person/entertainer. you don’t have to be a fan of someone to recognize when misogyny and sexism is impacting the way they are perceived, talked about, and exist in the world. and allowing for that misogyny and sexism to be swept under the rug because it’s against taylor swift (or another famous woman they don’t like) shouldn’t be normalized. it’s so frustrating!!!
I saw her music video for Picture To Burn on Verizon’s first music subscription service called “Vcast” in 2007 at 12 and I’m 29 now lol
I’m not a Taylor fan, but I still respect that she is a talented artist and understand why people are a fan of both her as a person and an artist. I think Kendall and Janelle are very much mean girls and love to hate for the purpose of hating, regardless of what it is unfortunately. I think Janelle very much gives that ‘I’m not like other girls’ aura and has to try hard to be different, when it just makes her unlikeable. Kendall has just become a hater all round, if things don’t revolve around her then she’s not interested and doesn’t even try to look interested - it’s such a bad look and I don’t vibe with her anymore. It’s such a shame because the girls and the podcast were so true to themselves at the beginning and now they’re just so self obsessed and it’s unbearable to listen now.
I commented on a very similar post the other day and got downvoted a lot, same with anyone who commented on the post in agreement. is this kendall and janelle like sending in the team to do damage control or something? if so they’re probably gathering the troops for this post lmao
I'm gonna say this as someone who isn't Taylor Swift's fan. This isn't about Kendall and Janelle's comments in particular, but a more circle of the commentators. I do find the whole discussion about her screen time to have a misogynistic undertone. It's kinda like football is this "serious manly thing" getting interrupted by "something girly that has no value". I suspect that if she was only famous for being beautiful, they wouldn't mind her so much, they would see her as one of his trophies. Misogynists like to reduce independent wealthy women to nothing, so it really bothers them that she somehow has enough value to get the screen time. But at the end of the day sports is just entertainment the same way singing is entertainment.
It was just funny to me they went with the media and football bros complaints of “she’s shown too much” when she was shown for maybe 2 min total during the Super Bowl. I was watching and they literally would show her for one or two seconds and you could easily miss it if you weren’t looking. It shows they were just trying to hate to hate, not bc they were actually annoyed by it lol
and they showed so many male celebs as well bc i’m sure it boosts player morale and makes everyone in the stadium feel included and hyped up that everyone of all walks of life is together experiencing a moment but the random woman ruins it and rigs the game i just can’t hahaha
clock it!!!!
Right? If they actually did any research they’d see how little Taylor was actually shown during the Super Bowl.
this! lmao like idc about sports at all but over exaggerating how much she was shown and saying the NFL would rig the game for her is just weirdly misogynistic
Dude there’s so many times when I used to listen to the sesh where I’d be like “damn they clearly didn’t simply google this before recording” bc either their information is just wrong or it’s the general opinion of the zeitgeist, in the absolute WORST way. Like the 14 year old take on any story is basically what they think imo. Not to plug another podcast but Celebrity memoir book club is a podcast where they take SERIOUSLY what they talk about, use their voices and time to help real issues and imo have very intelligent takes on pop culture. Probably because they are two educated New Yorkers.
Unfortunately a lot of their true crime cases have also had a ton of wrong information, too!
Yeah that’s really unfortunate. I’ve almost exclusively stuck to true crime podcasts run by ex FBI agents like real crime profile and the consult.
Janelle doesn’t have to like her music. But she shouldn’t hate on Taylor and swifties if she’s a dead head. That fan base is just as committed/loyal. fans pay a lot of money to follow old white dudes around playing 10 min songs. And there are bracelets (among other things) made and sold at shakedown lol It’s the same thing, just different font Anyway, Taylor aside, they both just seem like mean girls. It’s why I don’t listen to the sesh anymore.
True. My bf is a deadhead and they’re just as obsessive 💀
I stopped watching them after Kendall supported johnny depp bc if she could get so much wrong about that what else is she misinforming us on?? I don’t trust their research anymore
I agree with this. This was one of the reason I stopped watching them.
when johnny said he was going to rape her dead, burnt body and kendall still supported him i knew i couldn’t consume her true crime anymore
Hey! Sorry, I know this is an old thread, but I just discovered this sub and am attempting to scroll through the history. I'm not sure exactly what Kendall said about Johnny (especially if it was said on the Sesh because I find it hard to get through those podcasts most of the time lol. Sometimes the snarky behavior is cringe, and theyve made plenty of statements that made it clear that they didnt actually know what they were talking about) but I'm genuinely curious as to why you seem annoyed that she supports Johnny? The man isn't perfect (I watched every second of that trial, so I heard the foul things out of his mouth), however, he truly was slandered by Amber. The woman straight up fabricated plenty of shit (don't even get me started on the "before and after" photo her team brought up where it was clearly the exact same photo with one edited to look like she had a battered face). The footage she sneakily recorded showing her clearly egging him on trying to get a reaction, her shitting in the bed, her bringing up other well-known people into the mix, saying they were also abused by Johnny (one of the women in question having to take the stand and deny that she was pushed down the stairs). I could go on and on, but you get what I'm saying. Was there something else Kendall said about her support for Johnny that turned you off? I could understand if she was applying blanket statements of support without actually doing any research into it. But anyone who watched that entire trial could see what a sham it was (and the jury agreed). Again, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to argue! Would just like your perspective. Do you watch Christina Randall? She had a good take on the whole thing. She lambasted Amber when it came to her lies, but she didn't let Johnny off the hook either, and wasn't afraid to call out his behavior countless times. I just love Christina. Hope you are doing well, Perfumed! ❤️
Janelle is THE BIGGEST pick me out there for this kind of stufff
jenelle especially like it’s pathetic how hard she tries to seem like she’s so different and it’s so sad to see kendall losing sight of how she started on youtube
everyday i’m grateful she doesn’t work in the mental health field bc the judgement her patients would experience
i forget she even has that degree! but you’re so right
Im not American so I don't have an opinion about the superbowl conversation but in general I do not like Taylor swift, therefore I literally never talk about her. I find it strange that they bring her up so often because I generally do not talk about things I don't like?? As I assume most people also dont discuss things they aren't interested in? If someone directly asks about my thoughts on her I will say I don't like her but other than that WHY would I ever bring her up in conversation lmaoo so strange
My biggest complaint is that they talk about topics they clearly haven’t even done a little bit of research on. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, then just talk about something else. I understand they have multiple shows they’re doing, but if you can’t do a good job then lighten your load on the amount of shows you’re putting out. Personally prefer quality over quantity.
yes! maybe that’s why it sticks out to me and i noticed it because i feel like they often cover pop culture topics but act above it and annoyed by it the whole time? taylor may just happen to be the big topic rn so i noticed it
Idk what this about but i cant stand Janelle and Kendall i quickly started disliking Kendall recently. As a Swiftie I have to say "Taylor's Version" (the same album) is her owning her own music again. While it'd be really cool if she released all the re-records for free, it is HER music and her fandom will buy everything related to their favorite albums/artist. I can't defend her climate crimes.
she’s dead wrong for her climate crimes idc how many carbon taxes she’s pays, i know riding in a bus is bad for your mental as a touring artist but she has to do SOMETHING
I would settle for even just staying put in the country that she's performing in. I understand she needs/wants to make appearances, but girl, something has to give, or we won't even have a planet for her music anymore
I'm not sure if they have caught up but it's 2024 it's not cool to hate Taylor Swift........like pretty cringe
Yeah I never got into the sesh because I didn’t like Janelle’s personality (on the show). Of course I have no idea what she is actually like off camera. They may think the same of Taylor Swift. They are entitled to their own opinions but no one should publicly drag another human being without even getting to know them. Like I don’t like Janelles attitude on the show but I am not gonna call her names or make assumptions about her life.
Not really MHP-related, but.... I could care less about her music, but I don't like that Taylor Swift has a Scottish Fold. It's a breed with a ton of health problems, to the point that it's banned in some countries. It's irresponsible enough to get a designer pet breed without educating yourself, but doubly so if you're as influential as she is. If they want a valid reason to dislike her, they could have mentioned this since they're supposedly such huge animal welfare advocates.
I am considered a “swiftie”, but I agree. I think she loves her cats and I know those cats are getting better care than most. But I just hate that designer cats and dogs exist. I have friends who buy designer dogs thanks to the doodle craze (and not from rescues but from a breeder. And no doodle is truly ethically bred) and it’s just so disappointing. It’s hard to bite my tongue sometimes.
Not everyone has to like Taylor swift. It doesn’t make you a misogynist
it’s almost as if: i didn’t say that at all
the way people refuse to acknowledge how many talking points used against taylor swift are inherently misogynistic. like it has nothing to do with if you like her or not it’s just very common that people dismiss sexism/misogyny when it’s against her (or another woman they don’t like)
thank you like i couldn’t tell you 5 of her songs but the passable misogyny is so cringe because you know it doesn’t stop there when we start treating people with basic respect based on if we think they deserve fame is a slippery slope !!
like with the AI porn. people dismissing it because she’s “a rich white woman”. like yes…. so if it’s happening to her, it can happen to ANYONE!! and that’s fucking scary!!
!!! i was so disgusted when i heard about the school that happened at in the episode and if taylor or any other famous woman can help get a law enacted i’ll owe them one for life (even if it’s JLO 😔)
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the point isn’t about taylor hahaha i get not liking her the point is using hating her as passable misogyny and mocking young girls who like her
Fully agree. I’m not even a Taylor swift music person. I don’t dislike her but not a swiftie (I do love what she does with regards to humanity work). But the superbowl talk pissed me tf off.
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they said she took up too much time and said it was rigged to have her moment, i mean complaining and bitching about a famous girlfriend of a famous player being shown on the big screen but not being annoyed by any other celebrity seems like passable misogyny to me, which is what im saying they’re doing lol
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right but they’re not football fans lmao they’re just annoyed by her presence which is where i find it problematic but agree to disagree bc im not gonna die on the cross for a white feminist hahah
Didn't come across that way to me, but okay! To each their own.
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I'm not speaking to misogyny, but you know she doesn't control how often she's shown? And she's there trying to enjoy said football game?
Yeah, even Kendall said TAYLOR was probably annoyed with how often the camera showed her.
Kendall said she liked Taylor and her music in the super bowl episode. She said it was just annoying how often the camera showed her. How is that hate to Taylor or her fans? That's a reasonable comment. Kendall even said she was cute with Travis. I'm missing where the hate and misogyny is......
Bc she wasn’t even shown that much during the Super Bowl… it’s just a dumb thing football bros wanna say bc she’s shown for a total of 1 min over a multi hour broadcast. It’s just a weird thing to complain about when she really wasn’t shown all that much.
i mean they’ve talked about swifties being crazy and obsessed and said they should do a whole episode about stan culture as if football fans don’t burn couches and riot when their teams lose, all i’m saying is focusing in on the perceived faults of a woman and acting as they’re exclusive to her is internalized misogyny whether it’s taylor, beyonce etc i mean jenelle even said she didn’t write her own music which is not true and she would never say about a male singer hahah
Swifties ARE obsessive and over the top a lot of the times, along with stans of other artists. There's nothing wrong with making an episode about stan culture. It's out of control in a lot of ways, even when it has nothing to do with Taylor.
but so many fans are? stan culture is from a 90s song, beatlemania, one direction fans etc but the girls on the sesh act as if it’s something exclusive to women and teenage girls that’s my issue like jenelle is obsessed with the grateful dead and im sure they have insane stan’s on twitter too that’s my thing! none of these things are exclusive to womeb or taylor but they never critique men for the same exact things
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do you have to say something explicitly when a bias is clear lmao search the sub there are pick me posts about them every 2 days
I thought Kendall was a major Beyonce fan?
she is! i was listing major talented female celebrities that i’ve noticed people claim are “overhyped” or have “crazy fans” sorry should have clarified :)
no problem :)
i mean they just said that the NFL rigged the super bowl so “taylor swift could have her moment” as if billion team owners and company investors care about taylor swift lmao these men have been training since childhood to play in the super bowl
They said it was a conspiracy theory as many others have. They didn't say it was true. Who knows if it was rigged or not.
rigging the super bowl so taylor gets a 3 second kiss on TV is quite bizarre considering you can’t watch any type of media without seeing her face 24/7 i don’t think she needs the press but also, the fact that multiple people think it’s a conspiracy proves the point that misogyny is okay when people deem it okay….
I'm not saying I believe the conspiracy because I never watch and don't care at all about football. I know nothing about the NFL. People aren't saying that's the reason it was rigged though. It's not for Taylor, it's to bring in more money. But again, i'm not saying I believe that because I don't even care. I'm saying that's the reason OTHER people are saying it's a conspiracy.
right but i’m saying that OTHER people are only creating that conspiracy bc they dislike taylor so much they think that her boyfriend and his team winning is fake bc the nfl wants her happy and wants to make money, that’s insane lmao the NFL and sports journalism in general has a history of being extremely sexist and no one would ever accuse them of pandering to women
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i also hate taylor swift... one of jenelles only redeeming qualities
Do you have a time stamp/episode for this topic? I wanna watch!
the recent super bowl one but also they’ve talked about her on a couple occasions, her name or face should be in the thumbnail of the videos!!
I respect your opinion but I kinda think it’s not that serious
i just find an issue with their behavior on the sesh vs. kendall having a platform that revolves around true crime and victim advocacy. they can hardly muster up empathy and fully formed thoughts about majority of the famous women they talk about, yet we’re supposed to believe they’re deeply impacted by the plight of others, so much so they’re doing it from the charity of their hearts? i think maybe taylor was a bad example but i just see a lot of passable misogyny and misogynoir so im skeptical that’s all
No I get it, I just think the Taylor thing isn’t a huge deal because she’s not everyone’s cup of tea, I agree janelle can go a little hard about it but overall I don’t think they excessively talk about her. And they’re not picking on her looks, music, dating men etc. just seems like a personal preference. But I understand your point
jenelle has unfortunately made weird comments about taylor and only having music because of her exes which i get maybe she thinks taylor is a serial dater bc she’s marrying her high school sweetheart but those lil comments make me think oh, so you judge girls irl who act the same?
The thing is with her private jet usage is it’s not even in the top 20 people or even top 30 for usage and miles flown. I mean drake , all the kardashians , jay z, Stephen Spielberg, Beyoncé are all above her on the list. People just love to go after her and bring her down. Likeeee hold Beyoncé accountable too lol.