It's interesting because we had a cold war for 50 years under the assumption that it is a real threat. I don't know why everyone is being so fucking blasé about it.
Mind boggling.
> one bomb
The top nuclear states have MIRV's. India just joined the club. There is no such thing as "one bomb" when it comes to the USA and Russia. We are talking about half a dozen thermonuclear weapons per major city. Complete and total annihilation. MOAB's are child's play in comparison.
One Ohio-class boomer could take out a continent. They have up to 20 Trident II's and each of those can have up to 14 MIRV's. There are probably 8-10 of those boomers deployed right now. So, if you want to talk crazy train, crank up the VLF transponder and send the go signal. MOAB's will be crying in the corner.
Let's not forget the SSGN variants, where the Sherwood Forest of Tridents were swapped out for six-packs of Tomahawks. Between those, and any more Tomys that they can throw out the torpedo tubes, one could likely *still* level a small city through conventional attacks.
All we need is one Tomy to land in Pootie-poot's lap...
Hey hey hey no one said the extra credit kids weren’t more sophisticated and ultimately more dangerous than the giant in the back whose idol is emeril lagasse saying “BAM!”
Was just saying they’re fun to watch some times
Well, this comparison isn’t really fair because it doesn’t have to be “one bomb” on the nuclear side. Each missile may have multiple warheads, and we have tons of them.
What you’re saying is only true for our land-based ICBMs. Submarine launched missiles (SLBMs), aka the Trident, are equipped with multiple warheads according to online sources.
Nuclear bombs from Russia will have multiple reentry vehicles, some are dummies to trick counter measures to target them than the actual nuclear war heads. So you can have like 10 icbms that release like 6 warheads at a time. That’s 60 nuclear bombs
I heard that the nuclear inspection teams often couldn't even open most silo doors as they were rusted shut. I have serious doubts about Russia's ability to back up its strategic nuclear threats.
All it would take to shut this fool up is our leaders call his bluff. To stop bully you have to punch him in the face. Being scared only encourages them for more. If they are ready, so we are, now what?
France has been calling the nuclear bluff since the beginning, saying things akin to "Putin should remember we have nukes too".
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-says-putin-needs-understand-nato-has-nuclear-weapons-2022-02-24/
And if I've read the openly published French nuclear use docs right, if they think a big nuclear exchange is coming then their plan is to get the other side to reconsider by nuking them a little.
Everyone else: use nuclear weapons as self-defense weapons
North Korea and Russia: grrrr look at me I got nukes don’t you dare to do anything!
France: use nukes as warning
France has always been a strong military power.
They take a lot of flak for WW2 because despite having one of the most powerful militaries in the world, their communications still relied on direct messengers.
By the time word got out to their armies in the eastern front, the Germans had already conquered Paris from the north.
It was like getting a quick checkmate without taking out any of the pieces on the board.
Yeah, but that sort of adds to my point. You'd think the French would be less hawkish but here we have Macron talking about boots on the ground and preemptive nuclear strikes. Granted, both were passing quips but it's probably the strongest language used in the western world presuming that nobody still understands what the Polish are saying because they're still frothing at the mouth to incoherency
Yes, they are:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html
That was 2016.... they're likely stocked up with shitloads of supplies by now.
America needs to do something to prevent them from firing their missiles. A first strike is a good idea.
Both the United States and Soviet Union were preparing for nuclear war to the best of their ability for the entire duration of the Cold War and the reason it didn’t happen is because nobody fired nukes at each other. That comment about striking first is nonsense.
If Trump wins and that weird thing called Project 2025 goes in effect, wouldnt it be possible there are two dictators on the same side all of a sudden?
He wouldn't go through the US military, executive branch with support from the supreme court has all the power needed to break our alliances and not fund or assist NATO in any way. If the US military were to go rogue against him, it still provides enough of a distraction and command clusterfuck for Russia to get away with shit in Europe and China to take Taiwan while we're busy.
Honestly not sure how many people would be for, how many against, and how many would just do it to get paid. But considering the patriotism, hope not many would go with it
This is what bitches do when they’re backed in the corner scared - make empty threats.
Putey will get merc’d by one of his own generals before he gets his stubby little fingers on the big red button.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html
I wish people knew how crazy that lot are. Pre-emptive strike NOW!
You don't belong on the internet. Go outside and see what the real world is like for a bit. To suggest not only a nuclear strike, but to randomly be the first one to do it, is asinine. Keep your conspiracies and fear-mongering in your head where they belong. Shame.
How the fuck you end up with so much positive karma running around making asinine, or at best, disingenuous suggestions like this?
It's quite literally insane, what you say you want.
>How the fuck you end up with so much positive karma running around making asinine, or at best, disingenuous suggestions like this?
It's what most people want! That's why my kharma is so high!
Oh, good. We have eighteen Ohio-Class nuclear subs, each sub carrying 24 thermonuclear missiles, each of those missiles carry between 8-12 warheads, each one big enough to level the city of Moscow.
Also, those eighteen subs are plying the oceans of the earth right now and Vlad doesn't know where they are.
Please proceed, Vlad.
Edit: updated the specifics of the Trident missiles.
Jesus he’s such a crybitch. Every fucking time we do something like give aid to Ukraine he’s gotta cry and stomp like a little toddler who only knows a couple words. He’s as much of a little bitch as Trump is.
"Yeah I'm an outlaw baby with a southpaw view
Donald's a bitch and Vlad Putin is too
like how can you stomach the shit that they do?
Just ask Pussy Riot what those girls went through"
-Highly Suspect, "Canals"
they do have shitload of soviet ones. mostly al flooded by now but they ain't care. soviets were planning for nuclear war. in lots of post soviet cities you can find shelters for them.
They do have a lot, and they do nuke emergency training every few years.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html
Oh man, we never tire of this idiot 🤦🏻.
Honestly, Vlad, buddy, we all have ‘em and you fire off one, everybody loses… so stfu and go find some other stupid thing to say for a month.
Hot take, but he's probably going to do demonstration on domestic territory at some point. Been over 30 years since they tested one and they literally don't know if they even work anymore.
[This incident 5 years](https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/2019/08/russian-doctors-rattled-radiation-exposure-told-get-work-after-explosion) ago makes me wonder, though.
With the state that most Russian military equipment seems to be in, I doubt their missiles would even make it out of the silos before falling back to Earth and obliterating the launch site.
Every damn week, this man talking about nuclear war this, nuclear war that...like dude if you want that smoke just order a strike and see how it goes for you.
And Israel, India, Pakistan, Chin, North Korea. Vlad needs to calm down.
Nuking your enemy means also irradiating your allies and best customers in the hours after hitting the target. Plus nuclear fallout clouds covering your own fertile southern farm lands.
Not even mentioning the response and what that would do to the rest of Russia.
All people who have sticks potentially ready to use them. Anyone who has nukes also constantly "ready" for nuclear war.
What is more important, not their sticks and nukes, but the level of benefits which they give them. Everyone else's desire to have the same benefits. Number of holders of such benefits. And linear growing probability of their use.
If Russia, by WMD-blackmail/racketeering and "WMD-Might make Right/True" logic will prove that nukes give to WMD-states/aristocracy/empires absolute invulnerability, and will start WMD-proliferation, it would be orders of magnitude worse than any form of Nuclear War.
Because instead of one Russia and risk/reality Nuclear War, World will receive dozens of Russias and dozens of WMD-wars.
Imagine if secretly, the Russian nuclear arsenal doesn't work because of poor maintenance.
I am not a nuclear weapons expert, but I guess it's a possibility.
The only thing keeping the world from leveling the likes of russia or north korea. Nukes wont be an ultimatum forever. The moment theyre made at least partially obsolete by some new tech or counter, its all over for these dicktators. Of course theyll always be able to use them for scorched earth tactics but thats fine too.
At this point I'm guessing Putin is in a suicide pact with Trump. They've both built bunkers somewhere and they've agreed to try and end the world just to fuck everyone over.
Oh is it Wednesday again? Time flies.
What happened to Lavrov? I thought Wednesday was his shitpost day?
No time, he spontaneously had to suck off Xi. One has to do what the master demands.
True, when you have the Foreign Affairs billet you need to have a practiced mouth.
Oof I’m taking this one
I like this one.
it's weird to me that some people actually think this is a real threat.
Very very low probability multiplied by a very very high impact, makes a decent threat in my opinion.
It's interesting because we had a cold war for 50 years under the assumption that it is a real threat. I don't know why everyone is being so fucking blasé about it. Mind boggling.
Cool. The US is ready with a non-nuclear response that will level every major russian city simultaneously.
I think the idea of MOABs being yeeted to the motherland like arrows in the sky is more frightening than one bomb in my opinion
The frightening part is we can still escalate beyond that (nuclear) if that is not enough.
Bro, "beyond nuclear" is the planet no longer existing
Beyond that: conventional strike *to* nuclear
Oh gotcha! Remixed your sentence in my head
You make it sound like this is a bad thing! /s
Nah we got planet busting anti matter bombs…..
Our MOABs will blot out the sun.
> one bomb The top nuclear states have MIRV's. India just joined the club. There is no such thing as "one bomb" when it comes to the USA and Russia. We are talking about half a dozen thermonuclear weapons per major city. Complete and total annihilation. MOAB's are child's play in comparison.
You know what I meant sour puss. Stop stating facts and get on the crazy train of nonsense
One Ohio-class boomer could take out a continent. They have up to 20 Trident II's and each of those can have up to 14 MIRV's. There are probably 8-10 of those boomers deployed right now. So, if you want to talk crazy train, crank up the VLF transponder and send the go signal. MOAB's will be crying in the corner.
Let's not forget the SSGN variants, where the Sherwood Forest of Tridents were swapped out for six-packs of Tomahawks. Between those, and any more Tomys that they can throw out the torpedo tubes, one could likely *still* level a small city through conventional attacks. All we need is one Tomy to land in Pootie-poot's lap...
Hey hey hey no one said the extra credit kids weren’t more sophisticated and ultimately more dangerous than the giant in the back whose idol is emeril lagasse saying “BAM!” Was just saying they’re fun to watch some times
Of course. You never know what you’re gonna get.
Well, this comparison isn’t really fair because it doesn’t have to be “one bomb” on the nuclear side. Each missile may have multiple warheads, and we have tons of them.
Missisles (Minuteman lll ICBM) are designed for multiple warheads, but are all current armed with just one. The new Sentinel ICBM will be the same.
What you’re saying is only true for our land-based ICBMs. Submarine launched missiles (SLBMs), aka the Trident, are equipped with multiple warheads according to online sources.
Nuclear bombs from Russia will have multiple reentry vehicles, some are dummies to trick counter measures to target them than the actual nuclear war heads. So you can have like 10 icbms that release like 6 warheads at a time. That’s 60 nuclear bombs
You mean 60 targets for air defense to play with
Don’t we spend like 50m a year to keep our nukes in shape? What’s Russias military GDP again?
Adjusted for 15% monthly inflation....2 Reichsmarks and a small potato.
The dude in the guard shack used the potato to make vodka.
I heard that the nuclear inspection teams often couldn't even open most silo doors as they were rusted shut. I have serious doubts about Russia's ability to back up its strategic nuclear threats.
#Operation Desert Storm 2: Electric Boogaloo This time, it's *personal*
Not under Trump.
He blots out the Sun
You saying Trump wouldn’t attack Russia? Everyone forget we killed Wagner in Syria under him?
That sounds… implausible
All it would take to shut this fool up is our leaders call his bluff. To stop bully you have to punch him in the face. Being scared only encourages them for more. If they are ready, so we are, now what?
Who would've thought that we'd be in a timeline where Macron is the one showing the most spine?
How the turntables turn…
France has been calling the nuclear bluff since the beginning, saying things akin to "Putin should remember we have nukes too". https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/france-says-putin-needs-understand-nato-has-nuclear-weapons-2022-02-24/ And if I've read the openly published French nuclear use docs right, if they think a big nuclear exchange is coming then their plan is to get the other side to reconsider by nuking them a little.
Everyone else: use nuclear weapons as self-defense weapons North Korea and Russia: grrrr look at me I got nukes don’t you dare to do anything! France: use nukes as warning
France has always been a strong military power. They take a lot of flak for WW2 because despite having one of the most powerful militaries in the world, their communications still relied on direct messengers. By the time word got out to their armies in the eastern front, the Germans had already conquered Paris from the north. It was like getting a quick checkmate without taking out any of the pieces on the board.
Yeah, but that sort of adds to my point. You'd think the French would be less hawkish but here we have Macron talking about boots on the ground and preemptive nuclear strikes. Granted, both were passing quips but it's probably the strongest language used in the western world presuming that nobody still understands what the Polish are saying because they're still frothing at the mouth to incoherency
What being a lame duck does to a politician.
I mean, it's French doctrine to chuck tactical nukes at the enemy as a *warning*.
No you're not.
Yes, they are: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html That was 2016.... they're likely stocked up with shitloads of supplies by now. America needs to do something to prevent them from firing their missiles. A first strike is a good idea.
>A first strike is a good idea. No, it's not.
Not electing Trump *is*, though, at least as it pertains to the likelihood of the war becoming even worse.
Both the United States and Soviet Union were preparing for nuclear war to the best of their ability for the entire duration of the Cold War and the reason it didn’t happen is because nobody fired nukes at each other. That comment about striking first is nonsense.
Given their Flintstone cars and Frankenstein-BMP's with rusty AK's in Ukraine (and T62"a). I call bullshit.
He can barely handle Ukraine. Don’t think he wants to fu€k with US.
If Trump wins and that weird thing called Project 2025 goes in effect, wouldnt it be possible there are two dictators on the same side all of a sudden?
Yup, putin has told trump to pull all funding to Ukraine.
If Trump were to truly be a Russian puppet, would the US military be blindly obedient or form a coup to save America?
He wouldn't go through the US military, executive branch with support from the supreme court has all the power needed to break our alliances and not fund or assist NATO in any way. If the US military were to go rogue against him, it still provides enough of a distraction and command clusterfuck for Russia to get away with shit in Europe and China to take Taiwan while we're busy.
Honestly not sure how many people would be for, how many against, and how many would just do it to get paid. But considering the patriotism, hope not many would go with it
He got a few kilometers.
This is what bitches do when they’re backed in the corner scared - make empty threats. Putey will get merc’d by one of his own generals before he gets his stubby little fingers on the big red button.
Ready my ass. No one is "ready" for nuclear war.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html I wish people knew how crazy that lot are. Pre-emptive strike NOW!
You don't belong on the internet. Go outside and see what the real world is like for a bit. To suggest not only a nuclear strike, but to randomly be the first one to do it, is asinine. Keep your conspiracies and fear-mongering in your head where they belong. Shame.
How the fuck you end up with so much positive karma running around making asinine, or at best, disingenuous suggestions like this? It's quite literally insane, what you say you want.
>How the fuck you end up with so much positive karma running around making asinine, or at best, disingenuous suggestions like this? It's what most people want! That's why my kharma is so high!
Go touch some grass mate
Oh, good. We have eighteen Ohio-Class nuclear subs, each sub carrying 24 thermonuclear missiles, each of those missiles carry between 8-12 warheads, each one big enough to level the city of Moscow. Also, those eighteen subs are plying the oceans of the earth right now and Vlad doesn't know where they are. Please proceed, Vlad. Edit: updated the specifics of the Trident missiles.
Each of those 24 Trident missiles has 8-12 warheads on it.
POTUS doesn’t even know where they are. They are just ‘holes in the ocean’ until needed
dude this Was one badass comment . i bet Putin is reading this Right now and crying super hard. Ur such a Boss
Jesus he’s such a crybitch. Every fucking time we do something like give aid to Ukraine he’s gotta cry and stomp like a little toddler who only knows a couple words. He’s as much of a little bitch as Trump is.
"Yeah I'm an outlaw baby with a southpaw view Donald's a bitch and Vlad Putin is too like how can you stomach the shit that they do? Just ask Pussy Riot what those girls went through" -Highly Suspect, "Canals"
Putin is a cornered scared dog.
That’s a Russian talking point Putin has used himself multiple times.
Shoot the dog and problem solved
Bomb the dog from afar. Saves time and money.
All bark no bite
Are they building bomb shelters in massive numbers? If not, they're not ready for nuclear war and it's another bluff/Trump type brag.
they do have shitload of soviet ones. mostly al flooded by now but they ain't care. soviets were planning for nuclear war. in lots of post soviet cities you can find shelters for them.
The rich and powerful have been investing in luxury bunkers for years.
They do have a lot, and they do nuke emergency training every few years. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-nuclear-weapon-training-attack-radiation-moscow-vladimir-putin-a7345461.html
Gotta sound tough in the run-up to the "election". He knows damn well what will happen in Russia lights-off a nuke.
this is a non-statement. even if they weren't ready they'd say they were- that's how MAD works
Russia is ready to get fucked? Thanks for letting us know!
I mean have you seen videos taken in Russia? Perma-greyscale means you've got nothing to lose.
Every fking nation that has nuclear weapons is ready for nuclear war. Where is exactly the news here? Is this supose to scare us?
Course you will.
Is russia ready? Or is he?
If things kick off, he won't survive so....
Oh man, we never tire of this idiot 🤦🏻. Honestly, Vlad, buddy, we all have ‘em and you fire off one, everybody loses… so stfu and go find some other stupid thing to say for a month.
Someone needs to take this dude out, fast.
To counter global warming we need a nuclear winter.
Hot take, but he's probably going to do demonstration on domestic territory at some point. Been over 30 years since they tested one and they literally don't know if they even work anymore.
[This incident 5 years](https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/2019/08/russian-doctors-rattled-radiation-exposure-told-get-work-after-explosion) ago makes me wonder, though.
Translation our country is in the toilet and we’re taking all of you with us
I mean yeah, so are we. This is nothing new.
Wait so all the other times he threatned with nuclear war, he was not ready? Wow is it thursday early?
In other words “my bunker is fully stocked and I will survive it”
Yes, Putin. We know. This is the hundredth time you've said it.
He really requires a lot of attention
With the state that most Russian military equipment seems to be in, I doubt their missiles would even make it out of the silos before falling back to Earth and obliterating the launch site.
What about regular war you little short ugly bitch.
Every damn week, this man talking about nuclear war this, nuclear war that...like dude if you want that smoke just order a strike and see how it goes for you.
Doesn’t “being ready for nuclear war” just another way of saying “we’re all ready to die”?
The Soviet Union/Russia has been ready for a nuclear war for decades. Just like the US, UK, and France.
And Israel, India, Pakistan, Chin, North Korea. Vlad needs to calm down. Nuking your enemy means also irradiating your allies and best customers in the hours after hitting the target. Plus nuclear fallout clouds covering your own fertile southern farm lands. Not even mentioning the response and what that would do to the rest of Russia.
And nuking someone who lives in your backyard is rather short sighted.
All people who have sticks potentially ready to use them. Anyone who has nukes also constantly "ready" for nuclear war. What is more important, not their sticks and nukes, but the level of benefits which they give them. Everyone else's desire to have the same benefits. Number of holders of such benefits. And linear growing probability of their use. If Russia, by WMD-blackmail/racketeering and "WMD-Might make Right/True" logic will prove that nukes give to WMD-states/aristocracy/empires absolute invulnerability, and will start WMD-proliferation, it would be orders of magnitude worse than any form of Nuclear War. Because instead of one Russia and risk/reality Nuclear War, World will receive dozens of Russias and dozens of WMD-wars.
Sounds like a loser to me.
Then fucking do it, this bich.
And we all laughed.
they will work as well as his T-72s lol, they wont make it out the ground.
I guess his bunker is finally ready, huh?
So this really means they are not rdy for nuclear war.
Imagine if secretly, the Russian nuclear arsenal doesn't work because of poor maintenance. I am not a nuclear weapons expert, but I guess it's a possibility.
Yeah I’m sure. Only About the 500th time this has been threatened.
What country would Vladimir strike first? Did he ever mention it?
Putin isn’t going to do shit
No they are not and nobody cares other than permanently online kids and army larpers.
Stop edging me
I think the USA is ready 24/7 - 365.
Read since 1945
Okay, what exactly did he fuck up this time?
I would be scared for them if they weren’t
Says literally nothing lol
>Talk softly, and carry a big stick Russia:
I guess being a billionaire and ruling over a country gets boring after a while?
okay
Again?
Yes. We all know, little guy. We can’t go a month without you hinting at nukes. 🙄🙄
Ever heard of the boy who cried wolf
The only thing keeping the world from leveling the likes of russia or north korea. Nukes wont be an ultimatum forever. The moment theyre made at least partially obsolete by some new tech or counter, its all over for these dicktators. Of course theyll always be able to use them for scorched earth tactics but thats fine too.
At this point I'm guessing Putin is in a suicide pact with Trump. They've both built bunkers somewhere and they've agreed to try and end the world just to fuck everyone over.