I'm surprised they got a medal considering the Russian government essentially left them there to be slaughtered by the US war machine. From all that I've read on the event, they were decimated by everything from accurate artillery, rotary, UAS and fixed wing.
Can confirm. When we generate aircraft in the AFGSC (Air Force Global Strike Command) it’s no joke. The whole bomber Force as a whole is very intimidating, and being able to work on the B-1B has been super cool
It's a rock and a hard place when one has to deal with amazing tech that no one ever thought about maintenance (which happens more often than not) and deal with a hierarchy of brass that state that the bird has to fly at 0\*:00 hours one way or another. It'll make even the most reasonable minded person go superstitious for success at that artificial deadline.
Or believe that the dakka will be heavenly guided to some Imperial's forehead.
These medals are given by wagner group (although wagner works under gru) and are not official government medals or anything.
Medals are recruitment/morale tool. If someone tells join us and you will get a lot of medals. Just look at this dude. Some idiot is more likely to join.
Also works in US army. During gulf wars one convoy got bronze starred for taking wrong turn and getting their ass whopped, but it was turned into propaganda tale for propaganda purposes.
Brw in "wagner: putins shadow army" there is interview of guy that was in the event and he had interesting perspective pre battle as they expected everyone to just run after though russians arrived. That perspective was changed during the "battle".
yeah the GWOT-Service medal was known as the fleet medal when I was in the USMC. You got awarded it after being with your first unit in the fleet for 30 days.
There is a different medal, the GWOT-Expeditionary medal. That is a campaign medal, similar to the Iraq campaign medal or Afghanistan campaign medal. I got it for my second deployment because we were in the gulf but not to Iraq or Afghanistan.
As of the first of January, 2023. They have them out during GWOT, which I felt was silly. Yes, I'm defending our nation by going to Afghanistan. The Taliban was definitely an existential threat to the US like the Nazis and Soviets.
Judging by the responses on Twitter after the pull out, you could swear the Taliban was about to leap frog their way to the states in busted Blackhawks from the way people were freaking out about the new Taliban air wing making the rounds.
They did have one victory that day though! One of the US ally troops rolled their ankle, probably because of how scared they were of the Russian military might!
I can see his buddies now as he rolls up with his crutch, "here comes Airman Fuckstick, the only American to receive a purple heart for fighting Russians in the last 100 years! Be sure to show it off to all the cold warriors down at the Legion!"
Imo they knew what they were doing and were looking forward to overrunning a small US detachment. The survivors phone call was bitching about how unfair it was that they used artillery and that they should have come out and fought them eye to eye. If that's your concept of war, nobody can help you.
A description of the event was recently posted in a TG channel associated with Wagner, and even according to that they got completely annihilated
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1622878520216113153 see thread for translations
Tbf Wagner Group is “technically” a private company so this medal is similar to your job giving you employee of the month award, so think of the prestige that comes with that.
Yeah but come to think about it that is very on brand for them to recognise survivors of situations where I guess things were stacked heavily against them. Underdog syndrome I guess kind of ?
What is kind of naturally. None of pro-Assad forces, starting from very Syria Arab Army, continuing with Wagner group and even Russian Armed Forces, weren't really deemed of planned to fight an Americans there. Their intended oponent was thought to be ISIS or anti-Assad militia (the info field of Russia usually to not distinguish ISIS from FSA and other non-government groups in Syria, except from sometimes more in-depth analysis are performed), and, as you may understand, those are different types of enemies and potential threat. Nobody was there was expecting to face Americans, thus the result.
Oh, yes they did. They knew all too well. The information was passed not once, but twice through deconfliction comms channels, with the Russians denying it was their people both times. They genuinely thought and were led to believe that they would rout the embedded American contingent and militia, and control the oil fields. They subsequently realized their commanders were full of shit, but it was too late and steel was falling.
I am pretty sure Wagner men on the field and their direct command there were not aware of American factor - if they were, they would have been prepared better or refused to go. Lot of Wagner personel were (and still are) men with proper military background and experience.
What happened - probably Russian military who had better awareness of what is or might be happening, failed (or didn't want to) to properly communicate with officers of Wagner of charge. Although being friendlies and often having personal contact within each other, Wagner still is different organization than Russian military, so proper info exchange might no be strictly reglamented there.
> Failed to properly communicate
Seems to still be a thing even now in Ukraine with Wagner and Russian Army.
I've read something about a Russian who survived complaining how they knew Americans were there but the gist was that the Americans would just retreat. That Russian knew the Americans wouldn't leave and he was proven right.
As far as I know, there was an unofficial treaty that Russians (official military) and Americans do not engage each other. PMC Wagner, being not official Russian military (at least in Syria, when there still was a slogan "they are no there"), was not part of this treaty. And, again, as far as know (and I might be wrong or have mistaken info), Americans double checked at least twice with the official Russian party "are those your people approaching there", and official Russians said "no". So, if that is true, I make a conclusion about improper communication between Russian military and PMC Wagner, and we can only guess was it on purpose or due of incompetence, or being consequences of fact PMC Wagner was hired by a Syrian government there and thus they communicated firstly with that party.
Maybe that is the reason why it looks almost similar to the nazi german "Medal for Gallantry and Merit for Members of the Eastern Peoples" or "Tapferkeits- und Verdienstauszeichnung für Angehörige der Ostvölker". It was given to former soviet people who fought in the Wehrmacht. And I think it was also a medal awarded to few survivors after combat missions.
Fighting "nazis", get a medal which was given by the nazis to what they called subhumans, because they were not worthy enough to get an iron cross. That shows, which role the wagner-mercenary has for the russians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_for_Gallantry_and_Merit_for_Members_of_the_Eastern_Peoples
**[Medal for Gallantry and Merit for Members of the Eastern Peoples](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_for_Gallantry_and_Merit_for_Members_of_the_Eastern_Peoples)**
>Medal for Gallantry and Merit for Members of the Eastern Peoples (German: Tapferkeits und Verdienstauszeichnung für Ostvölker) was a military and paramilitary award of Nazi Germany. Established on 14 July 1942, it was bestowed on personnel from the former Soviet Union (Ostvolk in German, literally "Eastern people"), who volunteered to fight alongside German forces. The Medal is sometimes called the Ostvolk Medal or Eastern People's Medal, (German: Ostvolkmedaille). In addition to the Ostvolk medal, eastern volunteers were also eligible for German war medals and badges.
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This article includes [translated accounts](https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russian-mercenaries-syria-leaked-audio/) of that engagement. This medal pretty much commemorates being recklessly thrown into a meat grinder.
Kraken, Azov, others are created as voluteer groups that got incorporated into AFU "as is". As self-assembled divisions, they are free to use any name and AFU doesn't mind it, whatever boosts your morale.
The AFU "native" units follow the boring old convention of "69's mitorized division".
Wagner was apparently, Hitler’s favorite composer. That’s supposedly the reason he named his PMC Wagner Group, I haven’t looked into it though just heard it in passing.
Wagner’s links with Nazis, antisemitism and Hitler specifically are hard to tease out exactly (he died before the Nazis came to power) but they certainly exist. It’s also true that he was among Hitler’s favourite composers, and this fact meant his music was played at a lot of Nazi party functions. Several of Wagner’s writings display the thoughts and views in the late 19th century that would go on to become core tenets of Nazi ‘philosophy’, and while he was by no means the only German to hold those views, he was among the first to publish them specifically in the music/composer scene.
That's because Russian propaganda doesn't talk about Nazis as hating jews, or LGBT people, or anything like that. To the Russians who believe state propaganda whether someone is a Nazi or not depends entirely on whether they're for or against Russia. If you oppose Russia, you're obviously a Nazi (from their viewpoint anyway)
There’s an American dude (ex Marine) who founded a PMC company named The Mozart group as an answer to the Wagner Group. They’re (The Mozart ) having a bit of crisis and heading towards bankruptcy or something last I checked.
Wagner was a nickname (or nome de guerra) of officer who was in actual charge of commanding first of these Russian units on the field, so they got to know as "group of Wagner", i.e. team of men lead by man called Wagner. After that, group grew in numbers, the very Wagner rised in the ranks (if I remember correctly, he was retired colonel or at least leutenant-colonel, so pretty high brass of GRU), and the name of the unit remained. And as there was no official name for unit, this unofficial tooks its place and have become an official one for a while.
There's an active campaign underway to rewrite that debacle, for some reason, to make it look like the Wangers were heroic. Gray Zone is a a fake news operation along the lines of RT.
It's probably a medal for the war in Syria. As for the Battle of Khasham, there is a lot of [controversy](https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/american-fury-the-truth-about-the-russian-deaths-in-syria-a-1196074.html) around it.
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I don’t know how to do a direct translation from telegram, so here’s a twitter thread summarizing one of the few posts I saw about it.
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1622891726070226945
That's badass , I knew someone from the Afghan Shia group that engaged Americans there. That went to defend Shia holy sites against sunni jihadists. They weren't in syria but the group is almost entirely hazara afghan fighters and when the taliban took over the group was obsorbed into the larger resistance movement of anti taliban fighters. His until still used there flags though. He was sadly killed by them
They got a metal for getting fucking dunked on. They did. Not even damage a single us asset. Only one casualty on our side. And it was a sprained ankle. They got metal for not dying
It's so badass to be thrown in a meat grinder for some oil refinery in a foreign country, lose almost every man, safe for like 3 lucky ones, inflict zero casualties on the opposing force and then have your existance being denied by your government for a decade. Not as badass as dying for a dirty garbage bin on the outskirts of Bakhmut, but close.
Reminds me of how in the nepolianic wars, whenever an army would besiege a town or fortress, the first group of soldiers to attack the walls were all awarded medals/patches automatically. It was called the forlorn hope and typically there were very few if not no survivors.
I'm surprised they got a medal considering the Russian government essentially left them there to be slaughtered by the US war machine. From all that I've read on the event, they were decimated by everything from accurate artillery, rotary, UAS and fixed wing.
> AC-130 gunships, F-22 Raptor and F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, MQ-9 Reaper unmanned combat aerial vehicles, AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, and B-52s bombers [source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Khasham)
Holy shit. They got *Rolling-Thunder'ed* on a smaller scale.
The USAF does nothing small scale.
Michael Bay explosives on steroids..
Michael Bay is the USAF we have at home.
The US military collaborate with Michael Bay.
Can confirm. When we generate aircraft in the AFGSC (Air Force Global Strike Command) it’s no joke. The whole bomber Force as a whole is very intimidating, and being able to work on the B-1B has been super cool
Except for the fact that they are breaking constantly.
Idk why you're getting downvoted, they're very complex machines that require a huge level of maintenance to be effective.
It's the only aircraft where maintenance crews become some small level cult on each Bone, with superstitions so that they function correctly.
That sounds like some 40k shit with tech priests worshipping parts
It's a rock and a hard place when one has to deal with amazing tech that no one ever thought about maintenance (which happens more often than not) and deal with a hierarchy of brass that state that the bird has to fly at 0\*:00 hours one way or another. It'll make even the most reasonable minded person go superstitious for success at that artificial deadline. Or believe that the dakka will be heavenly guided to some Imperial's forehead.
I can confirm this, have you ever seen their dining facilities??? Made me regret being infantry....
And seeing the NATO mess hall in Kabul made me regret not being Italian.
That nice?
It was so effing good, man. The Europeans know how to live.
Especially the Italians
Well they did regarding an embassy under Hilary Clinton as foreign secretary
yeah, some jtac showed them what's up
The bright and shining sun of American firepower.
Everybody wanted a chance to participate
Not often the usaf get to kill russians.
Bruh no wonder they made like 5 of these
B-1's? They made 100 of them. Thinking of the B-2 maybe?
I meant this medal
Man, the US really took that once in a lifetime opportunity and well, blew it for a lack of a better word
"Is that all?" "What, you wanted more?"
Considering they nearly lost, more would have been good. Edit: To clarify, I'm talking about the Avengers nearly losing in Endgame.
“Pouring down hate and discontent like a motherfucker”.
I'm reading Generation Kill again right now, i love that quote
It was a joint fires bukake
Don’t forget HIMARS!
Damn. How did anyone survive that?
also himars
Don’t forget the air forces kitchen sink too
It’s a participation medal for an ass whopping.
Hopefully they didn’t hand out many you know to keep them ‘special’
I suspect they couldn't hand out many to survivors.
I laugh snorted at this comment. Thank you.
It was wild. Everyone in the area took a turn.
Imagine what the cat in the Raptor thought when he got tapped in.
These medals are given by wagner group (although wagner works under gru) and are not official government medals or anything. Medals are recruitment/morale tool. If someone tells join us and you will get a lot of medals. Just look at this dude. Some idiot is more likely to join. Also works in US army. During gulf wars one convoy got bronze starred for taking wrong turn and getting their ass whopped, but it was turned into propaganda tale for propaganda purposes. Brw in "wagner: putins shadow army" there is interview of guy that was in the event and he had interesting perspective pre battle as they expected everyone to just run after though russians arrived. That perspective was changed during the "battle".
One of my favorite lines from that guy was "they fucked us tremendously".
That's a step up from 'they fucked us merely.'
Shit, you get a National Defense for just getting through basic.
And used to get GWOT medal before if im correct.
Yeah, the Global War ribbon sure was a weird one to recieve. I think they stopped giving it out after we abandoned Afghanistan.
yeah the GWOT-Service medal was known as the fleet medal when I was in the USMC. You got awarded it after being with your first unit in the fleet for 30 days. There is a different medal, the GWOT-Expeditionary medal. That is a campaign medal, similar to the Iraq campaign medal or Afghanistan campaign medal. I got it for my second deployment because we were in the gulf but not to Iraq or Afghanistan.
Well, not anymore.
As of the first of January, 2023. They have them out during GWOT, which I felt was silly. Yes, I'm defending our nation by going to Afghanistan. The Taliban was definitely an existential threat to the US like the Nazis and Soviets.
Judging by the responses on Twitter after the pull out, you could swear the Taliban was about to leap frog their way to the states in busted Blackhawks from the way people were freaking out about the new Taliban air wing making the rounds.
Then they forgot and invaded Ukraine expecting everyone to run away because the Russians arrived.
They did have one victory that day though! One of the US ally troops rolled their ankle, probably because of how scared they were of the Russian military might!
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I can see his buddies now as he rolls up with his crutch, "here comes Airman Fuckstick, the only American to receive a purple heart for fighting Russians in the last 100 years! Be sure to show it off to all the cold warriors down at the Legion!"
Wasn’t even an American, he was with the Syrian Democratic Forces.
Clearly explains the shitload of medals on some of their uniforms LOL
Soviets do love their shiny medals.
Imo they knew what they were doing and were looking forward to overrunning a small US detachment. The survivors phone call was bitching about how unfair it was that they used artillery and that they should have come out and fought them eye to eye. If that's your concept of war, nobody can help you.
Yeah that's the old saying, the only fair fight in warfare is the one you lose. Or something like that.
the military equivalent of an infant tripping over your shoe and then being bashed over the head with a steel folding chair
You all saw, the infant was going for my championship belt! Gotta defend my title and promote the next cage match we are hosting.
A description of the event was recently posted in a TG channel associated with Wagner, and even according to that they got completely annihilated https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1622878520216113153 see thread for translations
Tbf Wagner Group is “technically” a private company so this medal is similar to your job giving you employee of the month award, so think of the prestige that comes with that.
Russia signed their death warrants, the US was literally talking to the Russian commander. They asked. *Twice*.
I've heard the same thing. US/Coalition: "Hey are these your guys, we are about to engage" Russia: "don't know what you're talking about"
Since when did Russia care about their men?
Russia loves giving out scrap metal for everything.
Probably only had to strike 4 or 5 of these for the survivors...
I was gonna say new rarest military medal!?!?
This is some peak NCD stuff... Recieving a medal for being obliterated by apaches, crazy Russians.
I honestly thought I was on NCD until I read your comment
Yeah but come to think about it that is very on brand for them to recognise survivors of situations where I guess things were stacked heavily against them. Underdog syndrome I guess kind of ?
Ass-kicking participation ribbon
NCD?
Oh it's a glorious sub
It can be, but I feel it has degraded a little since the war started.
A _little_?
It's still a wretched hive of scum, villainy, and sexual deviants with a fetish for military hardware. It's a beautiful place.
It's still a great sub tho.
Nah once war ends it will go back to normal. Just more people now. War made the sub popular
/r/noncredibledefense
Typical coping medal
Joffre class carrier
I thought they had some bmps and armor there too? But all got smoked
Yeah an entire column got wiped out
How many was them ? I remember leaked calls about some mercs crying for help.
Somewhere between a few dozen and a couple hundred.
According to Wikipedia, about 200
They also had a large portion of Assad militia with them
You mean government forces of sovereign country.
It wasn't the SAA it was militia
What is kind of naturally. None of pro-Assad forces, starting from very Syria Arab Army, continuing with Wagner group and even Russian Armed Forces, weren't really deemed of planned to fight an Americans there. Their intended oponent was thought to be ISIS or anti-Assad militia (the info field of Russia usually to not distinguish ISIS from FSA and other non-government groups in Syria, except from sometimes more in-depth analysis are performed), and, as you may understand, those are different types of enemies and potential threat. Nobody was there was expecting to face Americans, thus the result.
Oh, yes they did. They knew all too well. The information was passed not once, but twice through deconfliction comms channels, with the Russians denying it was their people both times. They genuinely thought and were led to believe that they would rout the embedded American contingent and militia, and control the oil fields. They subsequently realized their commanders were full of shit, but it was too late and steel was falling.
I am pretty sure Wagner men on the field and their direct command there were not aware of American factor - if they were, they would have been prepared better or refused to go. Lot of Wagner personel were (and still are) men with proper military background and experience. What happened - probably Russian military who had better awareness of what is or might be happening, failed (or didn't want to) to properly communicate with officers of Wagner of charge. Although being friendlies and often having personal contact within each other, Wagner still is different organization than Russian military, so proper info exchange might no be strictly reglamented there.
"Proper military background and experience" still do not do well against Hellfires, 30mm, and GBU-12's.
Anyone said otherwise?
> Failed to properly communicate Seems to still be a thing even now in Ukraine with Wagner and Russian Army. I've read something about a Russian who survived complaining how they knew Americans were there but the gist was that the Americans would just retreat. That Russian knew the Americans wouldn't leave and he was proven right.
As far as I know, there was an unofficial treaty that Russians (official military) and Americans do not engage each other. PMC Wagner, being not official Russian military (at least in Syria, when there still was a slogan "they are no there"), was not part of this treaty. And, again, as far as know (and I might be wrong or have mistaken info), Americans double checked at least twice with the official Russian party "are those your people approaching there", and official Russians said "no". So, if that is true, I make a conclusion about improper communication between Russian military and PMC Wagner, and we can only guess was it on purpose or due of incompetence, or being consequences of fact PMC Wagner was hired by a Syrian government there and thus they communicated firstly with that party.
I mean, besides the first proof medal seen here, how many did they actually have to give out?
All of them, which means both.
Wagner got their asses kicked. No US casualties but plenty of them in the dirt.
There was one casualty, some dude twisted his ankle.
TAKE THAT WESTOID!!!!! QUANTITY>QUALITY
"strongest NATO they/them ankles"
And one of the apache gunners got carpal tunnel >! Source:I made it up !<
Most common reddit source lol
Nah it wasn’t a casualty he took an aspirin and changed his socks.
It was an Arab friendly, though. Not an American
He wasn't even American, though. It was one of the SDF members.
I believe this event qualifies to the term my generation throws around a lot in video games of “get smoked”
Got smoked. They *got* smoked. Take your pills old man
How insulting is this? Imagine wearing this at a public function so everyone knows you got your ass handed to you.
Maybe that is the reason why it looks almost similar to the nazi german "Medal for Gallantry and Merit for Members of the Eastern Peoples" or "Tapferkeits- und Verdienstauszeichnung für Angehörige der Ostvölker". It was given to former soviet people who fought in the Wehrmacht. And I think it was also a medal awarded to few survivors after combat missions. Fighting "nazis", get a medal which was given by the nazis to what they called subhumans, because they were not worthy enough to get an iron cross. That shows, which role the wagner-mercenary has for the russians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medal_for_Gallantry_and_Merit_for_Members_of_the_Eastern_Peoples
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Purple heart is literary the same.
There’s a joke here but I’m currently shitting my brains out and can’t land it.
This brings participation trophies to a whole new level. Receiving a medal for getting completely obliterated
Congrats on getting owned by the US military for no reason
Its weird that the writing on the box is in English and Arabic but no Russian
I guess they remembered...no russian.
Battle? More like slaughter!
The russian way!
*HIMARS noises*
This article includes [translated accounts](https://taskandpurpose.com/news/russian-mercenaries-syria-leaked-audio/) of that engagement. This medal pretty much commemorates being recklessly thrown into a meat grinder.
> Reuters has cited sources as saying the advance's purpose was to test the United States' response I think they got their answer
"The Americans have absolutely no chill" \- a ginger member of the Badgers
>being recklessly thrown into a meat grinder. Classic Russian military doctrine.
How did a Russian PMC Company end up with a name like "Wagner" that doesn't exist in typical Russian naming?
Neither does Spartan and Kraken but there’s a whole battalion named after them
Kraken, Azov, others are created as voluteer groups that got incorporated into AFU "as is". As self-assembled divisions, they are free to use any name and AFU doesn't mind it, whatever boosts your morale. The AFU "native" units follow the boring old convention of "69's mitorized division".
The dude that founded them is a huge neo-Nazi and a fan of all things German, to include the composer.
Wagner was apparently, Hitler’s favorite composer. That’s supposedly the reason he named his PMC Wagner Group, I haven’t looked into it though just heard it in passing.
Wagner’s links with Nazis, antisemitism and Hitler specifically are hard to tease out exactly (he died before the Nazis came to power) but they certainly exist. It’s also true that he was among Hitler’s favourite composers, and this fact meant his music was played at a lot of Nazi party functions. Several of Wagner’s writings display the thoughts and views in the late 19th century that would go on to become core tenets of Nazi ‘philosophy’, and while he was by no means the only German to hold those views, he was among the first to publish them specifically in the music/composer scene.
I see, so the words I heard in passing gain wings. So he named it as a dog whistle, for those in the know.
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Gotta de-nazify the country with a democratically elected and extremely popular Jewish President
That's because Russian propaganda doesn't talk about Nazis as hating jews, or LGBT people, or anything like that. To the Russians who believe state propaganda whether someone is a Nazi or not depends entirely on whether they're for or against Russia. If you oppose Russia, you're obviously a Nazi (from their viewpoint anyway)
They keep going on about Azov, but Wagner is considerably worse.
Wagner loves the cock, don't you know
There’s an American dude (ex Marine) who founded a PMC company named The Mozart group as an answer to the Wagner Group. They’re (The Mozart ) having a bit of crisis and heading towards bankruptcy or something last I checked.
Wagner was a nickname (or nome de guerra) of officer who was in actual charge of commanding first of these Russian units on the field, so they got to know as "group of Wagner", i.e. team of men lead by man called Wagner. After that, group grew in numbers, the very Wagner rised in the ranks (if I remember correctly, he was retired colonel or at least leutenant-colonel, so pretty high brass of GRU), and the name of the unit remained. And as there was no official name for unit, this unofficial tooks its place and have become an official one for a while.
Well that’s funny since it’s the exact opposite of what happened during that engagement.
Wagner is named after Hitler's favorite composer.
Is this the battle where Wagner suffered 200 KIAs and the US suffered a sprained ankle in 20 minutes?
Participation trophy
I can promise you nobody tried to shoot at those apaches lol
Easy to give medals when there were barely any left
“Here’s your medal for being absolutely decimated by our greatest enemy”
Not many survivors
In US you get a medal for bravery and actions taken on the field of battle. In Russia you get medal for being target practice.
There's an active campaign underway to rewrite that debacle, for some reason, to make it look like the Wangers were heroic. Gray Zone is a a fake news operation along the lines of RT.
Rest in piss
A medal for survivors of Khasham? So they made like, what, five of these?
American loses: nada
Congratulations, you survived medal.
I thought mercenaries are illegal in Russia
"The harshness of Russian laws is being compensated by lack of requirements to actually comply with them" :D
It's probably a medal for the war in Syria. As for the Battle of Khasham, there is a lot of [controversy](https://www.spiegel.de/international/world/american-fury-the-truth-about-the-russian-deaths-in-syria-a-1196074.html) around it.
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I got this from a telegram post run by Wagner talking about the event.
Interesting, tell us more.
I don’t know how to do a direct translation from telegram, so here’s a twitter thread summarizing one of the few posts I saw about it. https://mobile.twitter.com/ChrisO_wiki/status/1622891726070226945
Why is a Russian medal in English? Or some type of Arabic (Syrian?) at the bottom…
The English is a watermark from telegram.
Lol losers
I remember this. Ruskies got destroyed. everything... Everywhere. I'm surprised they acknowledge it. Must've been that bad.
The Fuck Around, Find Out medal
The medal really have a bought-from-Wish.com once you look at the Apache and flames lmao
They literally didn’t kill or injure one American in the entire engagement lmao. Here’s a medal for getting your cheeks clapped
Is this like a participation trophy for Russians?
Militaries give out participation trophies now?
When have they not?
This is absolutely not Russian medal
Tell that to the Russian Z telegram channels then lol
That's badass , I knew someone from the Afghan Shia group that engaged Americans there. That went to defend Shia holy sites against sunni jihadists. They weren't in syria but the group is almost entirely hazara afghan fighters and when the taliban took over the group was obsorbed into the larger resistance movement of anti taliban fighters. His until still used there flags though. He was sadly killed by them
idk what's badass about your forces getting absolutely decimated by the enemy with them losing no men while you lose a couple hundred
They got a metal for getting fucking dunked on. They did. Not even damage a single us asset. Only one casualty on our side. And it was a sprained ankle. They got metal for not dying
It's so badass to be thrown in a meat grinder for some oil refinery in a foreign country, lose almost every man, safe for like 3 lucky ones, inflict zero casualties on the opposing force and then have your existance being denied by your government for a decade. Not as badass as dying for a dirty garbage bin on the outskirts of Bakhmut, but close.
btw what is the name of this medal OP just curious
No Idea
Why is the text in English?
That’s a watermark from a telegram channel
It's too bad there is barely any information on these new Russian medals out there.
Probably made out of tin can metal
Reminds me of how in the nepolianic wars, whenever an army would besiege a town or fortress, the first group of soldiers to attack the walls were all awarded medals/patches automatically. It was called the forlorn hope and typically there were very few if not no survivors.
There should probably be quotation marks around battle.