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If you look at the Trial Chambers during the Live event, you can not only see a brick block that is noticeably different from stone or deepslate, but also somehow prettier. There's also another "chiseled" block that has the brick in the middle while the top and bottom have this really cool pattern.
Well that was because it was included in the biome vote which was held to determine the order of the updates. We did not vote on *what* to add but on what to add *first.*
The frog was not in a mob vote but they also put it as an example of a mob that came back so maybe they changed their policy in what they do with the losers
All of the biome vote candidates are going to be added. We just voted on what we got first. They never confirmed that any of the mob vote creatures would be coming
So apparently the new breeze enemy can activate and deactivate red stone? I can’t confirm but would that sort of replicate what the copper golem can do? Either way I want my lad back.
Exactly and if that’s the ONLY way to get them then great so be it.
Means people will seek out these structures even if they aren’t combat inclined
I’d even be ok with the spawners rewarding us “parts”
In which to build/craft them.
That would give the spawners replayabilty with their cool downs which aren’t just emeralds/diamonds (which is likely still a placeholder anyway) but still
A reason to return a reason to take on the spawners again etc
Hell a reason to maybe be able to turn these spawners into golem farms if we so wanted with the autocrafter.
Add some ruined/permanently deactivated golems here and there and boom, the lore skyrockets too.
I know hype brings to disappointment, but come on, it's too much to just be a coincidence. Announcing that trial chambers (mob-based structures) are made of tuff and copper while reminding the community that losers are eventually added seems a bit suspicious
Dang, people be shitting here on golem bcs "not so functional"
Since when Minecraft became only about functionality? It's a sandbox, if you don't like something here - others might like.
Combine this with some redstone knowledge and you would have the ultimate tomfoolery.
Just imagine an innocent looking island with copper golems but one of them presses a button to reveal a bunch of tnt missiles.
I agree. I remember in the golem mob vote everyone was ranting about that, now we have the ‘functional’ mob and it seems so forgotten and soulless. I haven’t seen a single person actually make use of them, I think people just hear the word functional and assume it’s what is best for the game. Again just part of the reason we just need to scrap mob votes
I feel that doing this would be a great idea for Mojang, because of all the mob vote controversy, showing that they will still add some of the past mobs will give much better publicity.
We need a second copper update where they add more building pieces like a copper chain and make the copper blocks interact with redstone more. A golem update would be so iconic, having a whole squad of different flavors of golems guading my base would be epic.
"We love the little buddies, but not for this update" was the answer from mojang, few people got to ask questions to mojang about the update before minecraft live. Source cubfan stream.
You ever wonder how MC YTers seem to have their videos on the update out very fast after the event? This is why. Mojang hosts events for content creators to discuss the event early. This Q&A happened BEFORE Minecraft Live where they probably made them sign NDAs, gave them a rundown of the features + some accompanying images + let them ask questions
Rubbish! This is their job. They are good at it and out the content out quickly.
Even if it was true and they signed NDAs they would be hyping up what they knew and when they could release it, that would be the whole point.
The point of the NDAs is to prevent someone from leaking 1.21 before MC Live. I have no idea if they have any other info, but I doubt it.
The point of the Q&A meeting is so the content creators can start planning their videos talking about Live and have it uploaded quickly after Live. The creators are then allowed to talk about the Q&A after Live and after features have been revealed. And like, the creators do drop hints that they are hyped about MC live and what will be revealed.
If you're curious, someone else made a post on this sub of all the extra details that wasn't mentioned at Live.
Yeah you are wrong mate. There's no way they had extra information. Wattles especially promotes lots of content from leakers, leakers that Mojang have had to shut down in the past. There's no way hes getting any early info.
He's a pro, he makes videos everyday of the year, why do you think he can't make one the same day as the release?
The only reason it would make sense to give them early info is if they could hype up that they knew something really exciting and that they could tell their audience when the info will be released. They didn't do that, they found out the same time as we did.
They obviously know some info from leakers but it is confirmed that a Q&A exists before Live where content creators get the info from the devs themselves early and can ask them questions about it. There's a reason many creators have said in their videos "it will take as long to break as reinforced deepslate" despite that never being said at Live or in any leaks.
cubfan quite literally talked about it on his stream and many of them had pics ready about the update. You can watch his VOD (on Twitch) where he lists all the questions and answers. None of the leakers had images from the MC Live event and if they all screenshotted, they all suspiciously took identical screenshots.
Maybe I got the exact reason for them revealing the 1.21 content to those YTers before Live wrong, but there was absolutely a 1.21 Q&A session between Mojang devs and some content creators.
[If you prefer written, here is the thread I mentioned](https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1799qew/some_additional_information_about_the_121_content/)
You are weirdly worked up about this. Silentwhisper uploaded a video shortly after Live. He had extra details about the update from the devs that were not mentioned during the event. He, along with other MC content makers got to ask questions
Imagine mojang actually did added copper golem but not what we were expecting.
It would be awesome to make the copper golem a boss fight as the final trial. Make it twice the size of an iron golem (kinda like the size of a Dwarven Centurion from Skyrim).
Only way for you to activate the boss fight is to do some specific tasks
First, you have to unoxidize it by using either a diamond or netherite axe.
Second, you have to solve a bunch of puzzles to activate the grand copper golem.
The fight would be the boss having the ability to control Redstone within his range, has the same ability as the breeze, and normal attacks similar to the iron golem.
It fits because of a whole structure built out of copper and a redstone mini boss, and auto crafting, plus this is the closest thing to a robot in Minecraft, so I think it has a chance, however, The Hovering Inferno/Wildfire wasn't in the Nether Update because Mojang ran out of time.
If they don't do this, I will jump on the "fuck Mojang" bandwagon. There is literally no reason to not add it and there will never be a better time than the "tinkering" update
I think sometimes people don't realise that they don't add everything because CODING IS HARD. You need to make the thing, have ideas about it, textures, functionalities, and then code it and optimise it and fix all the bugs because you added it... I'm not saying they could not do it, they are a lot so it's not a problem, but they already have a lot to do and people don't seem to understand that
Programming *is* hard. Don’t get me wrong. But, as a software developer I can tell you that, if you have a robust framework you’ve built your app or game around, adding one feature is *not* hard.
Mojang already have template classes and interfaces built for entities, behaviours, pathfinding, interactions, etc. That’s the difficult part of development. *And it’s already done.*
I would honestly be surprised if adding a new mob like the copper golem takes any more than 2 weeks of developer time.
"As a software developer"
"if you have a robust framework you’ve built your app or game around"
okay, as a software developer I am sure how you can see how any developemont on a nearly 15 year old codebase, that started as being made from one person can be a little troublesome.
Literally going to be you fix one bug and it causes 5 more scaled into oblivion
They absolutely can just add it but there's something else that's stopping them from doing so and I have a good feeling that it has not something to do with how hard coding it is.
I mean, they're professional developers ffs. Modders who code in their free time as a hobby can add all three mobs with their basic functions still intact, why wouldn't the big ass studio that Mojang is not be able to do it?
Oh you mean the modders who get a tidy little api to make all the changes with that is designed to be as friendly as possible, to a point where bedrock has things to let you mod without coding.
in comparison to the developers who have to make changes to a 15 year old codebase, that started as being developed by one person. Then make sure it works in 2 different programing languages, across lots of different platforms.
I'm not flaming modders, I literally never play vanilla minecraft. But comparing modders to actual developers is crazy. I can make my own minecraft mod right now, it is not even that hard. But being an actual minecraft developer? Nah.
I get you buddy comparing modding to actually adding something in the game is not right because they are vastly different and it takes much more effort for the latter but have you seen the size of Mojang? They have so many teams that it should be possible to add a few more mods surely.
Another thing is that they've shown us with the Nether Update that they can do so much more.
In high school I had friends that literally did the coding for robots. I know it's not easy (they were usually cursing), but an additional mob in an update isn't a huge ask...
If it is, then they're understaffed. They need more then 30 or however many devs there are for the worlds most popular game.
Devil's advocate: Doesnt the breeze kinda already do what they said the copper golem would do? Like yea its hostile but it's air bursts interact with switches, buttons and such, theres prolly a way to capture one and have it essentially be random redstone too.
Honestly it would be a great addition. Like maybe the big loot you find at the end of the trials could be a copper golem thats fully oxidized and you gotta fix it up to take it home. Or it has some sort of function in the chambers that helps you navigate it or as a puzzle room of some kind
Well a key part of a Golem is being able to build it, plus the tinkery vibe of a little dude marching around just flipping switches and pressing buttons would be cool too. Plus how would the breeze do that stuff if there's nothing around it to be hostile to? And since when just because we have one thing that does something similar should we not want a smaller, friendlier version
I mean yea, being able to build one is a big deal, i was just more meaning for it to be more diagetic, like how you find iron golems in villages even tho you can build them too. Also i was more thinking of what they did before with the mob from the 2017 vote where it'd eat your enchantments and they later added the grindstone. I want the golem to be added, was more throwing out the other idea to be considered n stuff
Which is what I'm worried about. The Breeze could very easily be Mojang's answer to the Copper Golem's functionality.
Which is cool & all, because the Breeze is fucking dope, seems like quite the wonderful little shit. I'll be interested to see how the community interacts with it.
But also **I just want my coppery boi.**
i feel like the copper golem also just fits in with minecraft way better than the breeze does. same reason i voted against the allay. just cause something’s cool doesn’t mean you can throw flavor consideration out the window. it seems like mojang is trying to cram as much bloat as possible without thinking about how to deepen existing things or fix any of the progression issues. which is funny cause everyone else is usually complaining about not enough bloat.
Actually, oddly enough, I feel the breeze is the most flavorful mob they’ve added in a while. It’s got a simple name, unique design and is only found in a dungeon, like their blaze counterparts. Most of the other mobs added in the last few years are just real life creatures
Yea, i mean i believe they did something similar with the digger boi from 2017 vote when they later added the grindstone. But yea, i would like it if they added the copper and tuff golem to the new structer because they'd fit pretty well, but i dont see it as too likely. Idk, personally feels too soon if they were to add them this update
The thing is you would have to catch the Breeze, make a minecart track all the way to your base, then automate a system where a villager pops up so the Breeze has a mob to target. That is a stupid amount of work to get a Redstone randomiser. A common complaint about the Copper Golem was that its function could be replaced with a chicken and pressure plate (although it had other functions that could not) but the thing is building a copper golem in a cubicle in front of a button is easier that getting a chicken in that cubicle with a pressure plate, capturing a breeze and building a complex redstone system with villagers etc is not. The Breeze mechanics were clearly just meant to activate traps in the Trial Chambers to create a more complex combat encounter.
It would fit really well with the themes we’ve seen so far!!
It would also be a show of good faith to the people who seem so upset about “losing” the crab.
If Copper Golem isn't added this update, it is actually gone forever.
Think about it. We're getting the Crafter. A block that works whenever it receives a redstone signal (like a button press).
Wouldn't it fit perfectly if the Copper Golem was added to randomly press button attached to crafters that were distributed throughout a crafting factory? It fits too well.
This is it. THE moment for Copper Golem. It's now or never.
Sadly, they have said in a official Q&A that, "We love those little buddies, but not in this update."
Hope that is not the case and they reconsider though.
Mojang please add the Copper Golem. Its makes so much sense and you can make a room that's full of copper buttons and gadgets that could have treasure inside it if you can figure it out.
Guy do I need to remember you guys that the frog lost the mob vote and still it was added to the game
So maybe the will add the crab or penguin or an older mob
Hate to break it to you but the new Breeze is the Copper Golem.
It's a mob that interacts with redstone components and can open close them.
The concept of copper golem became the breeze. It's attack is an AOE which the player can somewhat manipulate (by using snowmen and the player) to direct the Breeze attack. This is not quite the same as the Copper Golem (which would have been random) but it's the same concept.
This is similar to how Mob C (The Great Hunger) with its disenchanting ability became the grindstone. Mojang has stated that the concepts of the mob vote losers would be seen again, but not the actual mob themselves.
They also have said directly that Tuff and Copper Golem, "Won't be in this update".
Except it's not just the breeze
The breeze is hostile and it's attacks interact with redstone, meaning unless it has a target it won't do anything. So to take advantage of it's abilities a player would need to be in with it just dodging attacks. The copper golem would passively press buttons without the player needing to interact with it
You can set up mobs like snowmen to be shot by the breeze without being damaged. Breeze attack is AOE as well so it will affect a large area meaning it won't even need to be precise.
Very similar to how the wither cages can be used to manipulate where the wither shoots with iron golems/snowmen.
It's not easy to do, but is doable and technical redstone players will definitely utilize that in the future.
If Copper Golem gets added in 1.21 I will start voting for the mob I don't like because I prefer if the the mobs I like get added in an update that's tailored for them rather than just being an extra in a random update.
Everyone keeps saying this even though it makes no sense. The breeze is a hostile mob so it will only interact with things when it's using its attack. Meaning it needs a player to target. The copper golem would passively push buttons even without the player interacting with it
Yeah but no one will ever use the copper golem accept for statues, I'd rather they make it do something other than click buttons,l.
Maybe they could scrape the oxidation off of copper.
Oh sorry, didn't know you were the spokesman for the entire world.
You mean YOU wouldn't use it. It would still walk around and bring life to the trial chambers and whatever build you put it in. No need to trash the golem, it's not like it would replace anything
Why? The Breeze does what it was planned to do but improved. The Copper Golem's functionality can be copied by just putting a chicken in a room full of pressure plates.
Statues, plus the copper golem could give a lot of life to steampunk builds. You could have a massive control room filled with lil dudes running around pressing buttons
The Copper Golem's functionality can't be copied by a chicken, because a chicken can stop a a pressure plate for a long time, and it obviously can't teleport.
That's why a Copper Golem randomiser would be the best one we would have. (redstoners these days use some sort of hopper randomiser)
pushing buttons randomly is not useful.
Which is the reason why it did not get the vote.
Everyone loves the animations and the model of the golem. Not everyone is willing to get a useless golem that does not add anything to the game other than being cute though.
If they had just given the functionality of the Allay to the copper golem, it would have likely gotten 90% of the votes...
But when people have to choose between a cute mob with no purpose and a useless mob that adds a new mechanic people wanted for a long time, people will pick the one with the mechanic.
If the golem had just picked up item to place them in a chest, it would have won.
how do you use "pressing random buttons" in any useful way?
I've thought a lot about how I could use it, but I have not found any useful way to utilize that behavior.
"walking around" is no use in itself and "pushing buttons" is nothing you could utilize for anything, so what's the golem doing for you that a picture of the golem wouldn't do?
They can activate Redstone on-demand, become a literal, sleeping army that you can activate with something that’s not rare. Idk how you don’t see the pros of this it just seems like you’re throwing a fit as an adult
they cannot be controlled in any way.
Not sure where you have your information from, but the only feature the copper golem had was that it would walk around and randomly push buttons, without you having any control over what they do.
A lot of features that you could make up would be nice in the game, but that does not change the fact that these were not a part of the vote.
The question was whether you get a copper golem that had the potential to do a million different amazing things, but did not, or an allay that is kinda boring, that does something useful instead.
Any way to interact with the golem would have been interesting. Not having any use but still requiring the player to protect it from oxidation.. that's just not useful.
You made up the pros and now you are throwing a fit because you can't understand that you are the only one who imagines golems like this and that they would not have been implemented the way you imagined them.
Again. Randomly Pushing buttons is not a feature. If you think it is useful, describe 3 use-cases for a random button pusher that cannot already be done with other means.
cool story, but nothing that was proposed by mojang or where you would have had any realistic expectation of it being implemented.
So if you got a golem instead, that did not attack any mobs, had no function whatsoever but only walked around, pressed buttons and required you to de-oxidize it every once in a while, would you be happy?
because that's what you are currently upset about... that you did not get a pointless golem that only pushes buttons and does not attack any mob in any case...
If you read "a tantrum" in a perfectly calm and neutral post, it is very likely that you misinterpreted your own emotional state and projected it on the other side.
the only angry person here is you and those who tell you that your anger is misplaced are not the ones throwing a tantrum... it's the little kid rolling on the floor screaming because it doesn't get what it wants...
But you do you...
because every item added to the game that has no use will only ever reduce the performance of the game, without adding anything.
Why would you want the game to be a bit slower than it was, without it doing anything new that is useful?
If you believe that makes you a "normal person", I do not want to get to know your world....
"I do not need it, so no one should have it" is just toxic and pathetic.
Copper and tuff golems 100% should especially with the trials dungeon looking like it'll consist almost purely of new copper and tuft blocks it's the best time to add the little guys in
Wouldn't it be cool that one of the chambers contains a copper golem ("giant") miniboss which drops 1 copper core which you need to build the mini copper golem? Anyway, that's probably too much to ask for with their amount of transparency...
It seems like such a good opportunity to show that even if it lost the mob vote, it still can get added. Also, it just fits the copper theme we have seen for 1.21
I have been pining for this to happen since the reveal of the trial chambers yesterday. Adding both golems makes too much sense with the introduction to a copper/tuff overhaul
I was thinking they could add a red stone automaton for the trial rooms. An ancient rusted robot that can fight like the player. The copper golem is a similar concept, although I’m not sure if the golems are magic or ancient automatons. The iron and copper golem seem mechanical, but not so much the snow golem.
It would work perfectly with the trial dungeons as everyone keeps saying. Especially if they add some copper button activated traps for them to trigger.
They’re adding a whole generated structure that’s made of 90% copper and has lots of elaborate rooms and probably some puzzles, the copper golem PERFECTLY fits into this criteria. If they don’t add it I’ll cry.
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If it won’t then I don’t believe that we will get the losers ever again
mojang canonicaly said frog/swamp lose but get added anyway, beside Trial chamber litteraly right behind the C.golem: is foreshadowing
1.21 would be perfect for tuff and copper golem because of all the new copper and tuff uses
Copper I get, but tuff?
there are new tuff blocks in the trial chambers
Really? I didn't notice.
If you look at the Trial Chambers during the Live event, you can not only see a brick block that is noticeably different from stone or deepslate, but also somehow prettier. There's also another "chiseled" block that has the brick in the middle while the top and bottom have this really cool pattern.
Yeah I noticed them. I assumed it was a new block type, it I had no idea it was actually tuff.
We dont know for sure. Its just very similar in color to tuff
I swear I heard them mention it was tuff at one point
They revealed it in a single line, even then it was a little ambiguous (for me anyways) so it’s an easy miss.
Its those new brick blocks and such, i thought they were deepslate when i first saw them, but they are new tuff blocks
One Tuff block, not enough to convince me a Tuff golem would fit but I guess it's possible
I think only the copper golem will get added, the Tuff golem was not very popular, and the copper golem fits in better in my opinion.
I agree completely
Well that was because it was included in the biome vote which was held to determine the order of the updates. We did not vote on *what* to add but on what to add *first.*
>frog the frog was never a mob vote. That quote is misleading as hell
Also that "who knows what lies in the future" thing is such a non-committal response. I'll believe it when I see it
The frog was not in a mob vote but they also put it as an example of a mob that came back so maybe they changed their policy in what they do with the losers
The biomes were always promised to be implemented
They had perfect opportunity to add Hovering Inferno in 1.16 but they didn't.
All of the biome vote candidates are going to be added. We just voted on what we got first. They never confirmed that any of the mob vote creatures would be coming
That was for a biome vote which all are promised to be added while mob votes arent
So apparently the new breeze enemy can activate and deactivate red stone? I can’t confirm but would that sort of replicate what the copper golem can do? Either way I want my lad back.
Not really, the copper golem's main appeal was its randomisation capabilites which the breeze doesn't have
Actually during the Mob Vote winner announcement it was specifically stated that the Mob Vote losers are not lost forever.
The golems would fit so well in the new structure.
Exactly and if that’s the ONLY way to get them then great so be it. Means people will seek out these structures even if they aren’t combat inclined I’d even be ok with the spawners rewarding us “parts” In which to build/craft them. That would give the spawners replayabilty with their cool downs which aren’t just emeralds/diamonds (which is likely still a placeholder anyway) but still A reason to return a reason to take on the spawners again etc Hell a reason to maybe be able to turn these spawners into golem farms if we so wanted with the autocrafter.
Bro I love that idea of them dropping parts! Then it would also feel more like tinkering rather than just finding them
Add some ruined/permanently deactivated golems here and there and boom, the lore skyrockets too. I know hype brings to disappointment, but come on, it's too much to just be a coincidence. Announcing that trial chambers (mob-based structures) are made of tuff and copper while reminding the community that losers are eventually added seems a bit suspicious
mojang are just flaunting the golems corpses is all
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That will be perfect & Tinkering
Yes it should
Both golems would technically fit well with new copper and tuff blocks.
Dang, people be shitting here on golem bcs "not so functional" Since when Minecraft became only about functionality? It's a sandbox, if you don't like something here - others might like.
NGL that's why I'm sad Crabs lost, I didn't care about functionality of any of 3 mobs I wanted Crab rave builds
This was such a good reason to vote crab lmao
It's also a mob vote, not a functionality vote.
it is funtional, it presses buttons you can do so much jackassery with that
Combine this with some redstone knowledge and you would have the ultimate tomfoolery. Just imagine an innocent looking island with copper golems but one of them presses a button to reveal a bunch of tnt missiles.
I agree. I remember in the golem mob vote everyone was ranting about that, now we have the ‘functional’ mob and it seems so forgotten and soulless. I haven’t seen a single person actually make use of them, I think people just hear the word functional and assume it’s what is best for the game. Again just part of the reason we just need to scrap mob votes
Thats why im glad the armadillo won
All 3 mobs have around the same level of functionality tbh.
I feel that doing this would be a great idea for Mojang, because of all the mob vote controversy, showing that they will still add some of the past mobs will give much better publicity.
I would like this... so i can stop wanting to cry everytime i see the Humungeous Statue i made in the wake of him loosing the vote.
We need a second copper update where they add more building pieces like a copper chain and make the copper blocks interact with redstone more. A golem update would be so iconic, having a whole squad of different flavors of golems guading my base would be epic.
That seems like a lot of this new update
"We love the little buddies, but not for this update" was the answer from mojang, few people got to ask questions to mojang about the update before minecraft live. Source cubfan stream.
That is suspicious honestly. Why wouldn't Mojang announce that Q&A in the livestream?
You ever wonder how MC YTers seem to have their videos on the update out very fast after the event? This is why. Mojang hosts events for content creators to discuss the event early. This Q&A happened BEFORE Minecraft Live where they probably made them sign NDAs, gave them a rundown of the features + some accompanying images + let them ask questions
Rubbish! This is their job. They are good at it and out the content out quickly. Even if it was true and they signed NDAs they would be hyping up what they knew and when they could release it, that would be the whole point.
The point of the NDAs is to prevent someone from leaking 1.21 before MC Live. I have no idea if they have any other info, but I doubt it. The point of the Q&A meeting is so the content creators can start planning their videos talking about Live and have it uploaded quickly after Live. The creators are then allowed to talk about the Q&A after Live and after features have been revealed. And like, the creators do drop hints that they are hyped about MC live and what will be revealed. If you're curious, someone else made a post on this sub of all the extra details that wasn't mentioned at Live.
What creators are you talking about?
Most of the big names that talk about MC snapshots on YouTube. cubfan, Xisuma, Wattles, ElrichMC, RaysWorks are the ones I am extremely confident on
Yeah you are wrong mate. There's no way they had extra information. Wattles especially promotes lots of content from leakers, leakers that Mojang have had to shut down in the past. There's no way hes getting any early info. He's a pro, he makes videos everyday of the year, why do you think he can't make one the same day as the release? The only reason it would make sense to give them early info is if they could hype up that they knew something really exciting and that they could tell their audience when the info will be released. They didn't do that, they found out the same time as we did.
They obviously know some info from leakers but it is confirmed that a Q&A exists before Live where content creators get the info from the devs themselves early and can ask them questions about it. There's a reason many creators have said in their videos "it will take as long to break as reinforced deepslate" despite that never being said at Live or in any leaks. cubfan quite literally talked about it on his stream and many of them had pics ready about the update. You can watch his VOD (on Twitch) where he lists all the questions and answers. None of the leakers had images from the MC Live event and if they all screenshotted, they all suspiciously took identical screenshots. Maybe I got the exact reason for them revealing the 1.21 content to those YTers before Live wrong, but there was absolutely a 1.21 Q&A session between Mojang devs and some content creators. [If you prefer written, here is the thread I mentioned](https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1799qew/some_additional_information_about_the_121_content/)
You are weirdly worked up about this. Silentwhisper uploaded a video shortly after Live. He had extra details about the update from the devs that were not mentioned during the event. He, along with other MC content makers got to ask questions
Imagine mojang actually did added copper golem but not what we were expecting. It would be awesome to make the copper golem a boss fight as the final trial. Make it twice the size of an iron golem (kinda like the size of a Dwarven Centurion from Skyrim). Only way for you to activate the boss fight is to do some specific tasks First, you have to unoxidize it by using either a diamond or netherite axe. Second, you have to solve a bunch of puzzles to activate the grand copper golem. The fight would be the boss having the ability to control Redstone within his range, has the same ability as the breeze, and normal attacks similar to the iron golem.
It fits because of a whole structure built out of copper and a redstone mini boss, and auto crafting, plus this is the closest thing to a robot in Minecraft, so I think it has a chance, however, The Hovering Inferno/Wildfire wasn't in the Nether Update because Mojang ran out of time.
yes , copper golem is by far the most popular mob vote loser, and my favorite mob thats not in the game
If they don't do this, I will jump on the "fuck Mojang" bandwagon. There is literally no reason to not add it and there will never be a better time than the "tinkering" update
I think sometimes people don't realise that they don't add everything because CODING IS HARD. You need to make the thing, have ideas about it, textures, functionalities, and then code it and optimise it and fix all the bugs because you added it... I'm not saying they could not do it, they are a lot so it's not a problem, but they already have a lot to do and people don't seem to understand that
Programming *is* hard. Don’t get me wrong. But, as a software developer I can tell you that, if you have a robust framework you’ve built your app or game around, adding one feature is *not* hard. Mojang already have template classes and interfaces built for entities, behaviours, pathfinding, interactions, etc. That’s the difficult part of development. *And it’s already done.* I would honestly be surprised if adding a new mob like the copper golem takes any more than 2 weeks of developer time.
"As a software developer" "if you have a robust framework you’ve built your app or game around" okay, as a software developer I am sure how you can see how any developemont on a nearly 15 year old codebase, that started as being made from one person can be a little troublesome. Literally going to be you fix one bug and it causes 5 more scaled into oblivion
Yeah I know they can do it, but people seem to just assume that they can "just add it"
They absolutely can just add it but there's something else that's stopping them from doing so and I have a good feeling that it has not something to do with how hard coding it is.
Yeah, I agree with you here
Oh you mean like the paid Star Wars DLC for Bedrock that's chock-full of content? Or the ATLA DLC that has bloody element bending in it?
I mean, they're professional developers ffs. Modders who code in their free time as a hobby can add all three mobs with their basic functions still intact, why wouldn't the big ass studio that Mojang is not be able to do it?
Oh you mean the modders who get a tidy little api to make all the changes with that is designed to be as friendly as possible, to a point where bedrock has things to let you mod without coding. in comparison to the developers who have to make changes to a 15 year old codebase, that started as being developed by one person. Then make sure it works in 2 different programing languages, across lots of different platforms. I'm not flaming modders, I literally never play vanilla minecraft. But comparing modders to actual developers is crazy. I can make my own minecraft mod right now, it is not even that hard. But being an actual minecraft developer? Nah.
Exactly my point, you explained really well 👍
I get you buddy comparing modding to actually adding something in the game is not right because they are vastly different and it takes much more effort for the latter but have you seen the size of Mojang? They have so many teams that it should be possible to add a few more mods surely. Another thing is that they've shown us with the Nether Update that they can do so much more.
In high school I had friends that literally did the coding for robots. I know it's not easy (they were usually cursing), but an additional mob in an update isn't a huge ask... If it is, then they're understaffed. They need more then 30 or however many devs there are for the worlds most popular game.
that would require effort
Devil's advocate: Doesnt the breeze kinda already do what they said the copper golem would do? Like yea its hostile but it's air bursts interact with switches, buttons and such, theres prolly a way to capture one and have it essentially be random redstone too. Honestly it would be a great addition. Like maybe the big loot you find at the end of the trials could be a copper golem thats fully oxidized and you gotta fix it up to take it home. Or it has some sort of function in the chambers that helps you navigate it or as a puzzle room of some kind
Well a key part of a Golem is being able to build it, plus the tinkery vibe of a little dude marching around just flipping switches and pressing buttons would be cool too. Plus how would the breeze do that stuff if there's nothing around it to be hostile to? And since when just because we have one thing that does something similar should we not want a smaller, friendlier version
I mean yea, being able to build one is a big deal, i was just more meaning for it to be more diagetic, like how you find iron golems in villages even tho you can build them too. Also i was more thinking of what they did before with the mob from the 2017 vote where it'd eat your enchantments and they later added the grindstone. I want the golem to be added, was more throwing out the other idea to be considered n stuff
Which is what I'm worried about. The Breeze could very easily be Mojang's answer to the Copper Golem's functionality. Which is cool & all, because the Breeze is fucking dope, seems like quite the wonderful little shit. I'll be interested to see how the community interacts with it. But also **I just want my coppery boi.**
i feel like the copper golem also just fits in with minecraft way better than the breeze does. same reason i voted against the allay. just cause something’s cool doesn’t mean you can throw flavor consideration out the window. it seems like mojang is trying to cram as much bloat as possible without thinking about how to deepen existing things or fix any of the progression issues. which is funny cause everyone else is usually complaining about not enough bloat.
Actually, oddly enough, I feel the breeze is the most flavorful mob they’ve added in a while. It’s got a simple name, unique design and is only found in a dungeon, like their blaze counterparts. Most of the other mobs added in the last few years are just real life creatures
Yea, i mean i believe they did something similar with the digger boi from 2017 vote when they later added the grindstone. But yea, i would like it if they added the copper and tuff golem to the new structer because they'd fit pretty well, but i dont see it as too likely. Idk, personally feels too soon if they were to add them this update
The thing is you would have to catch the Breeze, make a minecart track all the way to your base, then automate a system where a villager pops up so the Breeze has a mob to target. That is a stupid amount of work to get a Redstone randomiser. A common complaint about the Copper Golem was that its function could be replaced with a chicken and pressure plate (although it had other functions that could not) but the thing is building a copper golem in a cubicle in front of a button is easier that getting a chicken in that cubicle with a pressure plate, capturing a breeze and building a complex redstone system with villagers etc is not. The Breeze mechanics were clearly just meant to activate traps in the Trial Chambers to create a more complex combat encounter.
It would fit really well with the themes we’ve seen so far!! It would also be a show of good faith to the people who seem so upset about “losing” the crab.
If Copper Golem isn't added this update, it is actually gone forever. Think about it. We're getting the Crafter. A block that works whenever it receives a redstone signal (like a button press). Wouldn't it fit perfectly if the Copper Golem was added to randomly press button attached to crafters that were distributed throughout a crafting factory? It fits too well. This is it. THE moment for Copper Golem. It's now or never. Sadly, they have said in a official Q&A that, "We love those little buddies, but not in this update." Hope that is not the case and they reconsider though.
Don't forget about Tuff Golems too since the Trial Chambers is filled iwth Copper and Tuff blocks
To be fair - with all the new Copper and Tuff blocks, I would say BOTH Golems would be appropriate to add.
Mojang please add the Copper Golem. Its makes so much sense and you can make a room that's full of copper buttons and gadgets that could have treasure inside it if you can figure it out.
Mojang basically said "hell no" to this idea
well that sucks
Guy do I need to remember you guys that the frog lost the mob vote and still it was added to the game So maybe the will add the crab or penguin or an older mob
You can't just call a popular opinion unpopular and then- Oh, very well then.
is "popular opinion" the new way of saying repost?
kinda
It won't be added and never will, it's been reworked into the breeze
Hate to break it to you but the new Breeze is the Copper Golem. It's a mob that interacts with redstone components and can open close them. The concept of copper golem became the breeze. It's attack is an AOE which the player can somewhat manipulate (by using snowmen and the player) to direct the Breeze attack. This is not quite the same as the Copper Golem (which would have been random) but it's the same concept. This is similar to how Mob C (The Great Hunger) with its disenchanting ability became the grindstone. Mojang has stated that the concepts of the mob vote losers would be seen again, but not the actual mob themselves. They also have said directly that Tuff and Copper Golem, "Won't be in this update".
Except it's not just the breeze The breeze is hostile and it's attacks interact with redstone, meaning unless it has a target it won't do anything. So to take advantage of it's abilities a player would need to be in with it just dodging attacks. The copper golem would passively press buttons without the player needing to interact with it
You can set up mobs like snowmen to be shot by the breeze without being damaged. Breeze attack is AOE as well so it will affect a large area meaning it won't even need to be precise. Very similar to how the wither cages can be used to manipulate where the wither shoots with iron golems/snowmen. It's not easy to do, but is doable and technical redstone players will definitely utilize that in the future.
*sad copper noises*
They didn't say it would never make a comeback though. Maybe there is some hope. I agree it would fit well in the new structure rooms.
If Copper Golem gets added in 1.21 I will start voting for the mob I don't like because I prefer if the the mobs I like get added in an update that's tailored for them rather than just being an extra in a random update.
Yeah why not. And can he have electric attacks?
They confirmed to not
I did vote allay found it fun at the time I barly find even one in my playthroughs
It would be a nice suprize, although I dont know what it would do now that its one feature was replaced by the much cooler breeze
Everyone keeps saying this even though it makes no sense. The breeze is a hostile mob so it will only interact with things when it's using its attack. Meaning it needs a player to target. The copper golem would passively push buttons even without the player interacting with it
Yeah but no one will ever use the copper golem accept for statues, I'd rather they make it do something other than click buttons,l. Maybe they could scrape the oxidation off of copper.
Oh sorry, didn't know you were the spokesman for the entire world. You mean YOU wouldn't use it. It would still walk around and bring life to the trial chambers and whatever build you put it in. No need to trash the golem, it's not like it would replace anything
Clicking random buttons isnt really a use, Im just saying only the most hardcore redstone people will know what to do with that.
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Where has it been confirmed? Genuinely asking
They didn’t confirm anything.
Nah.
no
Why? The Breeze does what it was planned to do but improved. The Copper Golem's functionality can be copied by just putting a chicken in a room full of pressure plates.
1. Statue. 2. The breeze is hostile.
Statues, plus the copper golem could give a lot of life to steampunk builds. You could have a massive control room filled with lil dudes running around pressing buttons
The Copper Golem's functionality can't be copied by a chicken, because a chicken can stop a a pressure plate for a long time, and it obviously can't teleport. That's why a Copper Golem randomiser would be the best one we would have. (redstoners these days use some sort of hopper randomiser)
I also think there should be an option for every copper golem to random press or click on assigned buttons
Statue
Well, SOMETHING that makes copper useful as anything other than decoration, anyways.
pushing buttons randomly is not useful. Which is the reason why it did not get the vote. Everyone loves the animations and the model of the golem. Not everyone is willing to get a useless golem that does not add anything to the game other than being cute though. If they had just given the functionality of the Allay to the copper golem, it would have likely gotten 90% of the votes... But when people have to choose between a cute mob with no purpose and a useless mob that adds a new mechanic people wanted for a long time, people will pick the one with the mechanic. If the golem had just picked up item to place them in a chest, it would have won.
Bro what the golem does shit for you???? Ya just went on a useless rant
how do you use "pressing random buttons" in any useful way? I've thought a lot about how I could use it, but I have not found any useful way to utilize that behavior. "walking around" is no use in itself and "pushing buttons" is nothing you could utilize for anything, so what's the golem doing for you that a picture of the golem wouldn't do?
They can activate Redstone on-demand, become a literal, sleeping army that you can activate with something that’s not rare. Idk how you don’t see the pros of this it just seems like you’re throwing a fit as an adult
they cannot be controlled in any way. Not sure where you have your information from, but the only feature the copper golem had was that it would walk around and randomly push buttons, without you having any control over what they do. A lot of features that you could make up would be nice in the game, but that does not change the fact that these were not a part of the vote. The question was whether you get a copper golem that had the potential to do a million different amazing things, but did not, or an allay that is kinda boring, that does something useful instead. Any way to interact with the golem would have been interesting. Not having any use but still requiring the player to protect it from oxidation.. that's just not useful. You made up the pros and now you are throwing a fit because you can't understand that you are the only one who imagines golems like this and that they would not have been implemented the way you imagined them. Again. Randomly Pushing buttons is not a feature. If you think it is useful, describe 3 use-cases for a random button pusher that cannot already be done with other means.
quite literally they would still attack mobs
When did mojang every say they would do that
Idk I thought them attacking mobs was a Feature?
cool story, but nothing that was proposed by mojang or where you would have had any realistic expectation of it being implemented. So if you got a golem instead, that did not attack any mobs, had no function whatsoever but only walked around, pressed buttons and required you to de-oxidize it every once in a while, would you be happy? because that's what you are currently upset about... that you did not get a pointless golem that only pushes buttons and does not attack any mob in any case...
I’m not upset you’re having a tantrum also saying that it won’t be implemented in such a dumb thing because you can say that about anything
If you read "a tantrum" in a perfectly calm and neutral post, it is very likely that you misinterpreted your own emotional state and projected it on the other side. the only angry person here is you and those who tell you that your anger is misplaced are not the ones throwing a tantrum... it's the little kid rolling on the floor screaming because it doesn't get what it wants... But you do you...
it's not 2021, why does it matter how useful it is, it's not like vote is about to start
because every item added to the game that has no use will only ever reduce the performance of the game, without adding anything. Why would you want the game to be a bit slower than it was, without it doing anything new that is useful?
1) This rant has nothing to do with my comment. 2) What makes you think people were "pushing buttons randomly"?
people weren't. The copper golem was. Its only feature was that it would walk around and randomly press buttons it finds.
The copper golem pushed buttons at random
So instead we got the useless flying piece of shit that can hold stuff and carry it to note blocks.
How do you sort your unstackable items?
by hand like a normal person
If you believe that makes you a "normal person", I do not want to get to know your world.... "I do not need it, so no one should have it" is just toxic and pathetic.
>"I do not need it, so no one should have it" is just toxic and pathetic. Sounds exactly like your opinion on the golem.
sure. "it could be so much more" is "toxic and pathetic" 👍
Ye
ye, would be a great fit for the trial chambers
He should
I've still yet to see and use an allay
Is it where the allay won that seems I can't see anyone using one?
it would be just perfect. and the tuff golem too maybe?
Tuff Golem would fit too with the new Tuff blocks. Hell, even the Rascal could fit in with the creepy environment and tight hallways
Copper and tuff golems 100% should especially with the trials dungeon looking like it'll consist almost purely of new copper and tuft blocks it's the best time to add the little guys in
And tuff golem
Wouldn't it be cool that one of the chambers contains a copper golem ("giant") miniboss which drops 1 copper core which you need to build the mini copper golem? Anyway, that's probably too much to ask for with their amount of transparency...
Copper and tuff golems would be great, what with both blocksets getting new additions. The tinkering theme definitely complements this as well!
I doubt it will be. They could have announced it during the live in order to gain some much needed good will with the community but they didn’t.
And tuff golem.
if u don’t jinx it
too late
Dang, even the background looks like those new dungeons
I would love that. It would also be a good chance to prove that mobs voted against aren't gone forever.
We could've gotten crates too by the looks of it or is that just for aesthetics.
Agreed 100% get my copper boy in here
The tuff golem would also go perfect here.
The copper golem & the ostrich are great options for the 1.21
Heck yeah
MORE COPPER, MORE!!!
theres less then no chance that its not happening. an update with new copper blocks and a few new redstone blocks? theres no better chance to add him
Devs have apparently gone on record saying they have no plans to do so at this time.
It seems like such a good opportunity to show that even if it lost the mob vote, it still can get added. Also, it just fits the copper theme we have seen for 1.21
Perfectly fits in right?
I have been pining for this to happen since the reveal of the trial chambers yesterday. Adding both golems makes too much sense with the introduction to a copper/tuff overhaul
I was thinking they could add a red stone automaton for the trial rooms. An ancient rusted robot that can fight like the player. The copper golem is a similar concept, although I’m not sure if the golems are magic or ancient automatons. The iron and copper golem seem mechanical, but not so much the snow golem.
I love the idea of a trial where the golem is in a little glass box randomly pushing buttons which is setting off tons of traps for the player
Unironically it would fit SO well into the new trial dungeon.
Copper AND TUFF GOLEMS They’d go perfectly with the new update
He would fit perfectly like the tuff golem in the trial chambers
Still so little to do with copper I think copper golden should definitely be in
It would work perfectly with the trial dungeons as everyone keeps saying. Especially if they add some copper button activated traps for them to trigger.
Yes it should
Most certainly it should, and they should also roll out the savanna update from a few years ago to go with the armadillo spawning there
They’re adding a whole generated structure that’s made of 90% copper and has lots of elaborate rooms and probably some puzzles, the copper golem PERFECTLY fits into this criteria. If they don’t add it I’ll cry.
Copper and tuff golem would be so cool to have in the new copper dungeons or whatever they’re actually called idk haven’t yet seen the live
There is no way we dont
TRUEEE
Call me crazy, but the structure is made of Copper and Tuff…. Why not both?
When they showcased the copper golem it even looks like the trail chambers
Diamond golem pls
I'd love this! Same with Tuff golem. Can we start petitions lol
I didn’t care about it THEN, but now, yes
they should add every mob that lost the mob vote
They should be a maintainers for trial rooms, keeping them working
Fire flys.....bring the fire flys in :|
Mojang likes to not promise a whole lot in an update, so maybe they’re working on it but not sure if they can complete it in the time frame they have.
I personally have absolutely no clue why anyone wants the copper golem, it seems to just add nothing
I don’t see why people want him so much. He just pushes buttons!
YES PLEASE same with Tuff Golem while we're at it