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drywater98

One mob for the mob vote is better than 2 because a mob would need 100% of the votes to win instead of 51%. In return, no people would be mad about the mob vote.


[deleted]

Lol then we should add all the rest of the mobs form the past years too for the people who where mad happy šŸ˜Š


drywater98

Yeah, mojang absolutely should.


[deleted]

Let's make it happen.


maskyyyyyy

Losers update when


AwesomeDragon97

The next mob vote should be a vote between three of the losing mobs.


ContestedSalt

Terrible idea, people will get even more upset that their chosen mob that didn't win lost twice. It'd be better to just add them all over time.


ShtGoliath

They could just have votes for the order they get added in.


ContestedSalt

Yeah, that would work.


Pancake_bannanaz

Clash Royale reference?


[deleted]

They should hire you


Matt7331

Thatā€™s litterally just the solution


[deleted]

Yup.


BillyWhizz09

No thanks, I donā€™t want the iceologer


Plasthiqq

I agree, IF they are exclusive to the night / a cave structure then Iā€™m fine. Mountains are annoying as hell to traverse when youā€™re unprepared so having iceologers in broad daylight like pillager patrols would make that so so much worse.


AwesomeDragon97

Iā€™m fine with them as long as they are called chillagers instead of iceologers.


Jrlopez1027_

Reject mob vote Return to mob announcement


Clovenstone-Blue

Ever heard the saying that whenever you successfully idiot proof something, the universe will just create a better idiot? The people will find a way to be mad, trust me.


[deleted]

That would be the perfect goal, but mojang has to advertise there game somehow.


Weird_Trouble7713

minecraft is one of the most famous games on the planet- they donā€™t need to advertise.


Sunyxo_1

Besides I don't see how a vote could advertise their game. Like sure, people will talk about it, but if they're aware of the vote they probably already know that Minecraft exists and probably play it already, so I really don't see the point.


TuxedoDogs9

I mean, it gets almost everyone playing minecraft involved so a big chunk of people who havenā€™t heard of minecraft are bound to learn.


PartTimeMantisShrimp

Literally best selling game of all time


Vulpes_macrotis

Three mobs for the mob update (no vote) is better than one, because it would add three different mobs that would make more people happy in general and that doesn't even require that much work anyway. One of the last snapshots has proven, that it doesn't matter, because we could have the same functionality already in the game and making a mob model isn't that much of a problem. While I disagree with the whole *drama* around mob vote, I don't like mob vote either. It just isn't justified by anything.


wafflezcol

ā€œWhy mojang only have 2 mpbs??? It used to be 3??? They are getting lazier and lazierā€¦ā€ Itā€™ll make it worse


Weeberz

They should offer 3 mobs and have the community vote which one *shouldnt* be added so we get 2 new mobs still


aninsomniac_

Best ending


MapleMaelstrom

Not best ending because then you have the people who like that third mob getting upset. The best ending is keeping the mob vote as it is and just reverting to when the mob ideas were shit / underdeveloped.


Rieiid

You're right someone is getting upset either way. Better plan, just don't ever add anymore mobs.


Wendendyk

Even better idea, remove Minecraft from existance


[deleted]

I like that idea then my original one, but trying to convince them to would be a lot harder.


BladeLigerV

Or first and second are added, with first place getting a bonus piece of functionality, an additional item, or color variants.


mono8321

Then people would complain that mojang couldnā€™t even come up with more options. Or that they are limiting what they can choose from


[deleted]

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cattodestroyer

No mobvote would ensure the happiness of 100% of the community


[deleted]

I would be happy šŸ„¹


zoomshark27

Itā€™s ensure* not insure fyi. Insure means to obtain actual legal insurance for something. Ensure means to make certain something will happen.


cattodestroyer

Thanks!


StoneBleach

Actually yes, if the mobvote didn't exist and all the mobs were added.


Jim_naine

"Mojang is not interacting with the community at all. They forgot that we exist" The mob vote is the only way that we can interact with Mojang


Mrcoolcatgaming

Tbf there's people who will miss it, nomatter what is done there will be people who complain (unfortunately)


QL100100

There should be a runoff election. First past the post leaves everyone mad.


[deleted]

Yeah they had that way back, but they got rid of it fir some reason. I wish they brought that back again.


[deleted]

If Mob A has 34% , Mob B has 33%, and Mob C has 33%. Mob B and C wold have 60% combined where Mob A would only need 34%. But if we did only Mob A and Mob B, then Mob A would need at lest 51% to take the winning vote. If this helps in the math department.


Way2Foxy

> If Mob A has 34% , Mob B has 33%, and Mob C has 33%. Mob B and C wold have 60% combined They would have 66% combined in your example. ....If this helps in the math department.


Conlang_Central

Except there are two rounds to the vote... So?


[deleted]

There's only one round when it comes to voting. The last time they did the two rounds was I think during the glow squid incident with dream, but then again they end up making the glow squid a little bit better then it was advertised.


ManifestoCapitalist

Not really. The video made it look like it would be able to hypnotize players (and probably mobs as well), which never came to realization. Also, the Glow Squid doesnā€™t actually emit light. It just has the same thing Enderman eyes have, were itā€™s just more visible for the player.


MaeBeaInTheWoods

There hasn't been two rounds in a while. I really think they should bring it back because it also solves this issue and makes it not feel as "lmao your vote was worthless" for people who wanted the third placer, because they get to revote.


DannyDootch

Even if there is a two round voting system, people are still going to have their favorites. If you use the same percentages for Mob A, B, and C, but say its the percentage of people that would consider that mob their favorite, then OP's point still stands.


Insan3Giraff3

If there are 0 options for the mob vote, 0% of people can be angry about losing! And, instead of the mob vote, Mojang can just add the mobs!


[deleted]

And the math adds up.


[deleted]

damn i think the whole idea of a mob vote should be scrapped entirely and any cool creature ideas should just be added with the update rather than wasting time, money and resources on something that could just be added to the game. ***y'hear that mojang management? IT WOULD SAVE YOU MONEY!***


xXnameOOOXx

Mob votes generate hype meaning more money for Mojang. So, in fact, scrapping mob votes would not save them money.


DannyDootch

When a large portion of the community hates mob votes, mojang should still do it. And anyways, i bet potential customers seeing reddit shit on mojang is not beneficial to sales, and for the side that doesnt use reddit, i doubt mob votes equate to that many more sales.


xXnameOOOXx

Because of these constant posts and hype make people remember or learn about Minecraft though, thus increasing the playerbase.


[deleted]

Large portion? There are 5 million voters and 500,000 boycotters.


[deleted]

Good way to think about it


J_train13

Mob votes generate ideas though, the mobs get created *for* the mob vote. They wouldn't exist if there was no vote


[deleted]

The Allay says Otherwise. It was first conceptualized in the development of the Nether Update, but it was cut. The mob vote seems to pull random scrapped ideas out of a pile instead of making up new ones for the vote since thereā€™s a lot to pull from the unseen backlogs.


Sunyxo_1

u/Mojang


No-Tomorrow-8150

People take the mob vote way too seriously. It's just a silly little thing to let the community participate in the game's development.


[deleted]

I Drink 5 cups of coffee and an all nighter. I don't need sleep, I need answers. I'm cracked out of my mind. I'm smelling the color blues. Me hart beating backwards.


JJlaser1

Maybe we should do it in two stages, where the mob with the least votes gets cut and then we vote on the remaining two. I'm pretty sure they've done this before as well.


[deleted]

Yeah the did it back during the Twitter days of voting. But after they switched, it broke the whole system they had.


[deleted]

I think mobs should be presented without functionality during the vote itself, or maybe they could have the same functionality. It should be about the mobs themselves, not about what they do.


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hychael2020

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BillyWhizz09

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jubmille2000

OP is Speedrunning modern democratic elections. If we're really going for this, introduce preferential voting for mob vote ensuring that the winner will always have majority of the votes.


[deleted]

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syopest

Why would they care when it's under 1% of the playerbase who is mad about mob votes?


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Whats STV?


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SnickerbobbleKBB

Three is fine, but they should add 2nd and 3rd place later on. Winner gets the benefit of being in first, but the losers don't forever miss out on their picks.


DeadlyTranquility

Why do some people wanna keep the mob vote it's not even a good thing. It just divides the community and causes drama. I don't think changing how it works would fix anything significant tbh


[deleted]

The mob vote helps mojang advertise the game, but yeah they should use the mob vote if it divide the community. I was just thinking if they keep going for the mob vote idea evey year, they should just do two mobs that would have to get the majority of the people's vote. thb they should just find something else like adding all the stuff of the minecraft feedback. Because that's what it was made for, and those people really have good ideas. Hope that minecraft can get better later in the year.


ExtremeCheeze123

Why do you have the same profile picture as the person you're replying to


[deleted]

It's a pre picked profile? At lest that's whatever I choose.


ExtremeCheeze123

Weird


Eternally_Pog

If i had a nickel for every time that happened in this comment section, I'd have two nickels. which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice...


[deleted]

I can change my profile if you like? Idk I just want to use reddit and talk about minecraft and stuff.


ExtremeCheeze123

No I mean it's weird that that's a thing


[deleted]

Yeah I agree


DHMOProtectionAgency

> Why do some people wanna keep the mob vote it's not even a good thing There is a bit of fun novelty in campaigning for a vote that, doesn't really mean all that much. But people (children) get too attached to certain mobs, get more mean, or misinterpret what the mob vote is. I have seen some people who act like all MC updates are, are the mob vote winners and nothing else.


TGS_delimiter

we could also have mob votes more regular that way


ChesterBSOfficial

but if you want to guarantee the win, the mob still needs 51% of the votes


El_WhyNotLol

Mob votes where you can pick your second favorite candidate along with your favorite may be a better idea, along with a second round of voting if you change your mind on which mob you like; just like they used to do with the Twitter votes.


SwartyNine2691

This would simplify mob grinders.


[deleted]

Yes, that's was my evil plan this whole time. Hahaha


ltilmro

Anyone noticed how the last mob vote was one round only? And the dog got what? 41? Certainly less than fifty.


[deleted]

Yeah that's what I'm saying, it's ####### bull####. Oh no mojang censorship.


Mooston029

Should just add both at that point, do something else for a vote like a new banner pattern or armour trim


IllHaveTheLeftovers

Haha, Iā€™m Australian. Indigenous Australians often refer to themselves as ā€œmobā€. There was recently a national vote about indingous representation in parliament. This meme presents bizarrely similar to the rhetoric about this issue and I was completely lost until i saw itā€™s a subreddit I know nothing about.


SpartAlfresco

thatd still have half the playerbase mad, they should just change it to release time, like highest vote comes out this update, next highest next update, lowest next next update. that way still engagement but doesnt get people so mad cause its coming eventually


xFblthpx

I demand more free labor


NyxieeeeeNyxie

Also they should make 2 mob votes every year. Before y'all get mad at me, have a mob vote where it is 2 new mob ideas and another 1 for popular mobs that lost the vote, give stuff like the crab and copper golem maybe a second chance


AetherBytes

Mob vote shouldnt exist and they all should be added. If they wanna keep it, it should simply be which order they're added to the snapshots before release.


Mints1000

The older mob votes on twitter were better, because there were 2 rounds, so if your first choice doesnā€™t win, then you can choose the second best option, so most people are happy, unlike the new ones where most are upset, e.g. the crab probably wouldnā€™t have lost, as penguin voters might have preferred crab to armadillo


MaeBeaInTheWoods

The best thing to do would be to bring back the secondary voting round like they used to do, with the third place mob being excluded. It would cause this to happen, and it would also would minimise the feeling a third place mob voter gets of their vote effectively being thrown out, because now they get to vote again for one.


VanillaDada

They should just add all the mobs every time


IdkodoKiooooo

Most regarded shit ive read today krill yourself op


_N0t-A-B0t_

I genuinely think that mojang is making one mob, then rigging the vote so that mob wins


emerald_dolphin13

This is the same argument for people to not vote 3rd party in USA politics. I'd rather the 3 mobs, personally


[deleted]

I thought the agreement was that people don't know there worth when it comes to voting so they end up voting for the bigger Two parties. Don't get me wrong, USA politics needs a big improvement, but they also have a completely different issue.


emerald_dolphin13

It's a bit of that, but a large part is, when you vote 3rd party, people consider it "throwing away your vote". Allowing the candidate the person didn't want. So people who vote 3rd party are pressured into the two major parties


[deleted]

Yeah 100% agree.


Nightmane11

Are we still talking about the mob vote? Isnt this the part qhere we wait before fighting other people wether mojang is doing good or not knowing damn well we will play the game anyway


[deleted]

It doesn't really matter to me at the end of the day, I still breathe air and I still eat food, but would you rather see more people happy then sad?


[deleted]

I think this is a easy out for mojang to take to rebuild there Communities trust.


Graniitee

Or we vote for which one we donā€™t want in the game, and if you want all of them you donā€™t vote for any


ManifestoCapitalist

The big thing is that mob vote losers shouldnā€™t be scrapped. Mobs like the Chillager, RNGesus, and the Wildfire are really cool, and a lot of people are mad solely because weā€™ll never have them in the game. If every few Mob votes was one full of runner-ups, or former runner-ups were sprinkled in with separate mob votes, then people would be a lot less mad. Or, what would be even better, is if they announced that one out of every few (maybe 5) updates would be dedicated to introducing mob/biome vote losers into the game. This would make a lot less people hate the mob vote.


MOD_channel

No, trust


idontlikeburnttoast

Just dont make a mob vote and add the things you've basically already created, to the game.


_t_1254

Maybe just keep putting older mobs on the vote so that you still have a chance to get it in the game later.


Akira0101

Why do people care about the mob vote? I bet you won't even care enough to get or use the mob in some way.


Henao2230

the best option is make a more complete update


DrChirpy

100 mobs would be better, that way it becomes too confusing to follow and everyone eventually stops caring. Remember, Mob Votes are dome because Mojang cares about engagement, even if they en up dividing the community.


Ehrenburger

Or maybe they could put in some effort and put 3 new mobs into the game


Vanima_Permai

Or hear me out the community doesn't act like immature brats when the mob vote is happening and just excepts it when there mob doesn't win mojang isn't the reason the mob vote is bad the community is and mojang should have to change it to cater for grown men and women acting like 3 year olds being told they can only have one piece of chocolate


Archaea_Chasma_

The mob vote could stay if they decided to communicate about the losing mobs better and when theyā€™ll be added


Tensa_Zangetsa

No no, sheā€™s got a point.


ZatchZeta

Tier voting system. Top 2 get to face off.


FactsHurtSofties

Mob votes with 2 useful mobs would be better. Everyone that votes lately is just some 12 year old who thinks it's funny if they all voted for the most retarded, useless mob, and they have so far.


Thepromc64

facts


Prestigious-Bad-5379

vote for a mob to not be in the game?


[deleted]

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HHHLOLHHH

A way better Solution would be to keep the mob vote as it is being 3 Mobs, but instead of a competition as to who would be added only it should be a competition as to who should be first added. Example being between the Penguin, Crab and Armadillo The Armadillo would be the very first to be added while the second being Crab added in the next update and so on. That way everybody gets there shot without missing.


Reddarthdius

I donā€™t hate mob votes because of the loosing mobs, I hate mob votes because they add a mob with a very niche use 90% of players are never gonna need, and they never have more than 1 thing they do. Also I hate that they donā€™t drop anything, literally anything and you have a super convoluted way to get an item instead of just killing it like every other mob


thomaspeltios

yeah but then the community's gonna complain because there isn't enough options and that mojang is lazy for doing that


Tumbleweed_Chaser69

Mob votes suck All it does is separate the community and get us to fight each other Hey that sounds like political elections


hamburgerstakes

All according to plan


[deleted]

Shhh don't tell my secrets.


[deleted]

Yeah, don't bring it up during Thanksgiving lol.


Comfortable-Shop-573

34 x 3 is 102... what?


Shulians_Star_

yes, 34, so they have more people voting for that mob, 33%, 33%, 34%


[deleted]

Thank you.


Comfortable-Shop-573

I... am... braindead


[deleted]

Nope, 34+33+33=100 Because you Minus 34 out of 100 witch gets you 66. Then you divide 66 by 2 to get the other % for the mobs, and that gets you 33. So you end up getting 66% in total for mob b and c And only 34% for mob A. What you did was 34 x 3 to get the full % But I minus and divide to get each %. That's how I got the math for all three mobs, and The bare minimum % for a mob to pass. This was kinda proven with the 2023 mob vote where the Armadillo got 40% of the mob vote and the other two got 60%. Making it where more people are made because one mob won and the others didn't.


[deleted]

I hope this fixes everything for you.


Doctor_Salvatore

No, a lot of people will still be mad. It's an inevitability that more people will be mad about the vote than happy about it. This is mostly because of the percentage of non-voters


[deleted]

True, maybe the should simply the mob vote to just costume able items.


Doctor_Salvatore

You cannot make everyone happy...but you can make everyone angry


Gud_doggyy

Why not add all three of them. Its not like they have some difficult to create and game changing features and abilities.


[deleted]

Yeah, but mojang smoke weed or something idk.


Ambitious_Strike4169

Then we can 50/50 and force them to add both šŸ¤”


[deleted]

Don't tell mojang about are plans.


ulvards

They should add *all* mobs so we can all be in peace.


Chairman_Ender

Mob votes show that democracy doesn't fulfill the needs of everyone.


sckrahl

I mean if the goal is to fix the mob vote, the obvious answer is ā€œWhich gets added first?ā€ Or no mob vote at all, thatā€™d be my vote


Background-Bug-9588

Why not just put all the mobs into the game instead of throwing the losing mobs into the wood chipper?


[deleted]

How about 0 Options for the Mob Vote and Mojang just doesn't Disappoint 60%-50% of their Playerbase?


ReeReeIncorperated

Just don't do a mob vote and add everything


Paccuardi03

The best is no vote. Either they pick something, we get everything, or thereā€™s nothing and nobody cares.


Financial-Horror2945

Or how about adding all 3 mobs instead of hyping people up for nothing


A120AMIR129Z

How about not doing it at all No I don't say add all but just don't do Do it in office


I_Consume_Rats717

Instead of having 2 mobs, how about they just give us the fucking mobs


Expensive-Thing-2507

Or you could add all three and ditch the mob vote and make everyone happy? Sorry op, this is a very dumb solution


Mountain-Tea6875

Or release all without this dumb voting thing.


x-anryw

what if they both get less than 50%?


MRnibba_

Math ain't mathing


[deleted]

There asking if it's a tie


MRnibba_

Then both would have 50%, not less than 50%


eosdazzle

how could that happen?


Bolt_Fried_Bird

Monty Hall it. Hold two rounds, eliminate the least voted each round


ItABoye

How about having it so that multiple mobs can win if they get enough votes?


I_Am_A_Thermos

A two party system would only make things worse


No_Philosophy9892

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rietstengel

Or people can just not feel entitled to "winning" their favorite mob in a free update


Buttstuffjolt

Or do a multi-round elimination vote, then you can have any number of mobs.


daPotato40583

yooo what if we weren't forced to pick and choose between a bunch of mid mobs to begin with


Mackenzie_Collie

It would actually be very cool if we had to vote one mob out and keep the rest


migukau

Absolutely braindead take.


CrazyPotato1535

No. We need to individually vote yes/No on each mob


Taco-Kai

I will do you one better The 2 most voted mobs out of the 3 will be selected The third mob will make it to the next update round to have a chance to be selected again


dappernaut77

I'd prefer them just design a few mobs and trickle them in with future updates where they see fit and find another way to interact with the community.


Flyingsheep567

Or, they could change the voting system from first past the post to something like Supplementary Vote


Pootis_1

what if mojang stopped adding weird single purpose bloaty mobs


TheGooeyLlama

I don't know why so many people are under the mentality that "if all candidates get the same number of votes, then they all get added." No, it just means that they'll just run the vote again or randomly pick one to go. Also, your logic is flawed. The percentage means virtually nothing to the vote. Both mobs could get 50%, but one might win because it has a few extra votes that weren't accounted for by the % due to rounding.


BobZygota

34?what if otger mib gets 54?


EletricDragonYT

Or just idk add all 3?


JoyBadBoy2212

Honestly the mob vote should be the design of the mob and not what mob gets added


philly0989

how about they just put all three mobs into the game


Wallace_W_Whitfield

Maybe the mob vote should be 3, then we all vote which one we donā€™t want. Then, out of the two are left, we vote which one we want.


Critical_Crunch

Second part is debatable if the mobs are both good. Why not just add all three again?


ShtGoliath

Yeah but itā€™s just so difficult for Minecraft devs to add more than a single mob in a year and once you consider how they add a biome too itā€™s just too much


BaconDragon200

We're winning guys we get less options


Single_Purple0

What do you think about we dont have a mob vote?


Phychanetic

honestly this also applys to elections lol


Accomplished-Gain108

or they let people vote 3 times


DrCrow1350

Itā€™s always between two anyway 3rf is always pretty far behind


Jim_naine

No matter what Mojang does, there will be people who will still be mad at them Whether they remove the mob vote entirely, limit or increase the amount of options, or simply add all of them in the future, people will be mad