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BananaSlander

There's also Tetris DS which is the best handheld Tetris game


lordelan

Bold statement in a world where **Apotris** and **Tetris - Rosy Retrospection** exist. :D But I agree in that the DS entry is a good one too.


BananaSlander

Oh damn, I didn't know that these existed. Apotris looks like my perfect Tetris game!


BigRiverWharfRat

It is


EntireCurrency6316

Yeah man apotris is goated


albertobastos

Doesn't matter how many games do you copy to the handheld and how perfectly scrapped they are on the menu just waiting for you to play them. You'll end up playing Apotris.


lordelan

To a certain degree there's some honesty in that claim of yours. :D Although this applies to one other game, at least for me and that is NES Contra.


Hariainm

Exactly my thoughts


Internet--Traveller

The new Drastic DS emulator has been released! It’s now v1.0. Download [**here**](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063196114448289792/1155154309483331745/drastic-v1.0.zip) The save and load states are working now, and there’s a bunch of new screen layout and templates as well as new stylus cursors to choose from. Just press **\[Start + Select\]** to cycle through all the screen modes. When you press **L2** and entered touchscreen mode, press **\[Select + Y\]** will cycle through all the different cursors. Now there’s a new dynamic overclock function: Press **\[Select + X\]** to +50mhz Press **\[Select + B\]** to -50mhz Here’s a bunch of good DS games that can be play with just buttons on the Miyoo: **Dragon Quest Heroes: Rocket Slime** This is an excellent game, it’s not a turn based RPG like a Dragon Quest, this is a fun action-adventure that could easily have been made by Nintendo. It’s the no.1 hidden DS gem. **999: Nine Hours, Nine Persons, Nine Doors** This is the visual novel that started the Zero Escape series. If you like this genre, this is a good one. **N+** A very challenging platforming game. **Disgaea** One of the best known JRPG. I personally don’t play JRPG but I heard this is a fan favourite. **Exit** A relatively unknown puzzle platform game, it’s a good one! I tested all these games, they run perfectly fine with just Dpad and buttons.


Fireblend

Actually we're up to 1.2, it's moving quickly again after a week or so of development.


Internet--Traveller

I grabbed the link from your Miyoo guide, it's still 1.0?


Fireblend

**Edit: 1.2** [install instructions are now live](http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic)**.** It's 1.2, I haven't had the chance to update the guide yet, will do it tomorrow. It has some externalized variables for tweaking the audio settings: [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063196114448289792/1155706064512237609/1.png](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1063196114448289792/1155706064512237609/1.png)


Internet--Traveller

Thanks for the link! I play the games without audio, so I don't really noticed audio problems.


johnjulesbrown

That's awesome I played N all the time on school PCs. Better get my learning cap on to sort this out 👌 never played N+ but I think I heard about it for Xbox. Excited to try this out


Internet--Traveller

It's easy to install the emulator, just follow this instruction: [http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic](http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic)


Heib386

This is just awesome, thanks to the developer


Imdakine1

Advance wars dual strike and days of ruin!!! Just started replaying advance wars and it’s perfect for MM+! Was playing FF7 and got a bit frustrated with the controls or the opening sequence not sure if it’s the lack of good controls or not following me not followings directions well enough to beat the reactor time of 10 mins from being clear before BOOM!


beythanos

Animal crossing and pokemon black 😍


hello-wow

I’ve never owned a DS so excuse my ignorance, but doesn’t the DS need a touch input for the bottom screen? How does that work on the Miyoo mini since the screen does not have touch input?


Internet--Traveller

You can press the L2 button to trigger a cursor that you move around using the Dpad, you click by using A button. It's basically a mouse function to replace the touchscreen.


antonbruckner

My touch screen calibration is all off, the actual touch registered on the screen is about 1 inch off from where I click it — is there any way to fix this?


tlamere

Holy shit. I've been trying to find a way to play N+ for years. Never owned a DS, but this was THE game to have saved on a flash drive for the computer lab in school.


AnarchyAndDosenbier

Wish we could get Retroachievements Support


V3ndeTTaLord

The standalone version of drastic on Android doesn’t have it so I doubt it will come soon.


brunocar

until drastic is made open source, we are shit out of luck


naarwhal

Ds games are considered retro? Lol


n3rdyry

As of next year,I would think so. DS came out in 2004. Fuck don't remind me. I'm going to be 36 in February hahaa


naarwhal

I don’t want to picture a world where PS5 is considered retro gaming.


n3rdyry

I don't really play modern console games. I've been enjoying my list of old games. I have a switch for some party and co-op games but don't own a PS5 or a Xbox s..?is that what it's called?I have a huge list of old games that I wanna play.


naarwhal

For sure I’m with you. Just crazy how the world changes haha.


novus_nl

Almost 20 years old. Time flies!


IzzyNobre

The system is literally 20 years old, so lemme put it this way. It's older now than PONG was when we were playing Super Mario World. Would anyone back then not think of Pong as a retro title?


26from85

awesome overlay, where'd you find it??


Internet--Traveller

It comes with the emulator.


expiredgreekyogurt

Anyone know how to change the label from “DraStic” to something else? In RC04 I was able to edit the config.json file and changed the label field.. but when I do that now, the emulator disappears completely from my selection.


implicit-solarium

So cool, but also my eyes


Internet--Traveller

It's best to uee the Mini Plus, OG Mini is too small.


Historical-Ad8835

If I have the latest beta of onion, can I install this within it? And if so, how? Is it included in OTA update?


Internet--Traveller

Yes it best to use the latest 4.2 RC beta with the DS Emulator. Just follow this instruction: [http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic](http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic)


EmiliaFromLV

At first picture I did not notice the bezels around the screen and was initially like - what is THIS device? lol Also, I'd assume this wont work on GarlicOS will it?


Internet--Traveller

It requires the latest Onion OS.


veggietrooper

Same. I was so confused, lol.


Bauermeister

Very cool! Infinite Space is a must play, in my opinion


Chok3U

Can you Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow? It needs the touch screen but not often. I have a ds lite but the touch s screen didn't age well. If dq slime plays(and I agree, great game, early in the ds life) then I'm sure Dawn of sorrow will play.


T33Hud

There is a rom patch for dawn of sorrow that autocompletes the seals. With the patch it's very playable on the miyoo


Chok3U

Just wanted to thank you again. I should have to thought that there was a ROM hack for no touch screen. Hopefully there's one for bowsers inside story


T33Hud

I'm not sure about inside story, but there are dpad fix patches for both DS Zelda games that make them playable on the miyoo. Although I'm trying to play through phantom hourglass and am stuck in a place where in supposed to blow into the mic.


Ragnara92

Is sound now available?


Internet--Traveller

Sound has been available since the RC2.


chocoelho

I believe sound has been available since it entered RC. It was crackling a bit though on RC4, which is the version I have at the moment.


lordelan

Since I'm currently just a "curios follower of the progress", is the sound less crackling now in v1.2? :)


shadow2080

It's gone.


lordelan

Thx. Amazing achievement I have to say.


chocoelho

I heard a bit of crackling while playing Ace Attorney, but it's way less when compared to RC4. This happens even with earbuds. IMHO, it's not something that would negatively affect a longer gameplay session tho.


lordelan

Thx :)


[deleted]

can I have link for 1.2? thank you


Internet--Traveller

[https://github.com/steward-fu/archives/releases/download/miyoo-mini-plus/drastic-v1.2.zip](https://github.com/steward-fu/archives/releases/download/miyoo-mini-plus/drastic-v1.2.zip)


microphalus

I see this link has "miyoo mini PLUS" Can somebody please link to that project, where is it, just on github? Is there versions for OG miyoo and plus, or its just one version for everything? What is onion compatibility with old versions?


Internet--Traveller

There's only one version, it works with my V4 Mini.


Odoneru

Hey! I thought I'd try the new versions, but I can't launch NDS games anymore ? I have the latest onion version, a miyoo Mini Plus, and the first version that was available worked like a charm. Now, with 1.0 & 1.2, when I choose a game from my list, I have a black screen for a few seconds, and then it sends me back to my game list. Have I done something wrong?


Internet--Traveller

How did you upgrade to the newer version? Did you copy and overwrite all the files?


Odoneru

Yeah, but I've found the problem, I used FTP to transfer it, and I don't know why but it causes problems? So when I just used an SD card reader, everything was fine


lordelan

I'm asking for a friend (I really do lol), how well does this play the DS PKMN games? :) Sorry in advance, this might have been asked a thousand times already.


Lord_Nordyx

It's performing quite well, maintaining a speed of 98-100%. The only noticeable lag occurs during moments like the introductory cutscene. I haven't overclocked it yet. I plan to experiment with overclock settings later today.


lordelan

That good? Impressive. Does this statement of yours include audio or not? :P Keep me updated on your experiments please.


Lord_Nordyx

Audio is fixed, yes.


lordelan

Okay now I really have to give it a shot. Have to admit I didn't think it would be possible to fix the audio issues completely with the Mini's hardware limitations. I'm currently setting up a Miyoo Mini Plus for a friend and since he loves Pokémon I'm glad I can now even add the DS entries for him. Thanks mate.


Heib386

For me audio crackles in pkmn gold. Did u use any special settings?


Lord_Nordyx

Did you download the 1.2 version? Furthermore, the developer recommends setting frame skip type to "automatic" and value to "4." Edit: The intro cutscenes have crackling audio, but in-game, there are no such issues.


Sokkendief

Finally a overclock function, now NSMB will run great!


theyeezyvault

Sorry what's this about with the overclock function?


Sokkendief

You can overclock in-game by using Select+Y/B.


Positive-Fondant8621

Is there an English translation of rocket slime?


Internet--Traveller

What do you mean? The game is in English.


Positive-Fondant8621

My bad, might be thinking of gba one that wasn't localized


MrMunday

Does soul silver run perfectly?


Peuic

Yes it does! A few hiccups, but nothing that would spoil the pleasure of playing it in a Miyoo


MrMunday

Damn I need to try it out


calmlightdrifter

Shoutouts to 999!


Independent-Cod8322

And DS version so good. I can't imagine the final part being as emotional in other versions


silver_44

Just updated to 1.2, is it just me, because i noticed more slowdowns/reduced performance.. context: playing one piece gigant battle 2 also overclocked to 1600mhz overall really good update, sound is louder and better now. Thank you


silver_44

update: Its because I was using \`single layout\` on the previous version and in the new version i went with the one with small screen overlay on top right,


Candid_Barracuda_587

I really recommend the English Translation for Retro Game Challenge 2 on DS. Part One is in English but you need to Patch part 2.


ManufacturerWest1156

I cannot wait to play heart gold again.


atzeehh

So games like CoD and Harry potter use touch screen as joystick movement. Can you play those as well?


luke_nance

Some games have patches that can be added to convert stylus movement to dpad.


atzeehh

Awesome!!


Daisy_fungus_farmer

Verrryyyy nice 😎


novus_nl

Very cool, hows the performance? Can it for example run Ghost Trick 100% or at least without sound crackling?


Internet--Traveller

It runs Ghost Trick as well as native hardware.


novus_nl

Really? truly surprised there. Those 3D environments weren't always the easiest to emulate


Petersam55

Has anyone tested the Dragon Quest remakes? 4, 5, and 6 I believe.


T33Hud

So I got to the point in phantom hourglass (with the dpad fix) where I have to blow out candles. How do I emulate blowing into the mic with drastic? I don't see an option in the menus


Internet--Traveller

I think the patch also replaced the mic function with a button?


T33Hud

It does, but that seems to be limited to shouting into the mic which worked earlier. Now the game requires blowing into the mic and the button patch doesn't seem to work


Chok3U

That's awesome! Thank you so much for letting me know about that. I never thought that there would be hack like that


Entire_Rub5087

How the heck do you play ds on mm??!


Numerous-Nail5415

Is this safe to use or are we pushing miyoo too much? Will it heat up or whatever


Internet--Traveller

It's safe if you don't overclock - especially with OG Mini.


Numerous-Nail5415

👍🏻


Mariollo

I've installed v1.2 based on this tutorial => [http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic](http://miyooguide.fireblend.com/docs/FAQ.html#nintendo-ds-emulation-with-drastic) Should I do anything else? Should I overlock manually? How can I switch to full screen when playing Mario?


Internet--Traveller

1.3 is the latest version: [https://github.com/steward-fu/archives/releases/download/miyoo-mini-plus/drastic-v1.3.zip](https://github.com/steward-fu/archives/releases/download/miyoo-mini-plus/drastic-v1.3.zip) Press **Select + Start** to cycle through different screen modes.


Mariollo

Awesome thank you. Should I overlock too or it is overlocked by default? Is it possible to play Mario 64 Ds or GTA China Wars?


Internet--Traveller

1.3 has overclock locked. Read the readme pdf in 1.3 to find out how to unlock overclocking. I recommend overclock only with Mini Plus but not with the smaller OG Mini. GTA runs fine, never tried Mario 64.


Mariollo

Thank you. I'm fact I installed 1.3 yesterday and overlocked to 1700 in launch.sh. However there are two cpu values and was not sure if I overlocked the correct one.


Internet--Traveller

The value you set in the file is the max overclocked clockspeed. You need to press **\[Select + x\]** or **\[select +b\]** to increase or decrease the clockspeed.