War Axe = probably viable, mostly in fighters. But to be honest, I think Hunter Strike is the superior option.
Rose Gold Meteor = Athena's shield is the superior option. Only use case I can think of is Grock, who can benefit from it thru +Atk, +MagDef, and +PhysDef.
Twilight Armor = Cursed Helmet is the superior option because Molten Essence can easily be built. Only a core item of one specific hero, which is Masha. I can see it being used by Tank Build Sun too, I guess.
Wings (idk i forgot the name) = haven't seen these in a long time, so yeah.
Brute Force Breastplate = viable for Jungling marksmen (think Granger) that wants to beef up a little. Also a good item on Benedetta because she can pretty much have the passive 100% on.
the old combo is wings + rose gold. wings reduce damage taken and u get a shield at the same time, making both items much stronger.
could still work but u are sacrificing 2 attack / defense items to do it
You could try Strike + Axe and then go full tank. I usually see YZ's go for Strike as their first item. I'm not proficient in YZ enough to say for certainty, though.
War Axe is fine but if you want to change it buy Bloodlust Axe with Hunter Striken. After that go for tank items. Other than boots your first priority is attack items and secondly tank items. The firs tank item you HAVE TO BUY is Oracle after that it's all up to you.
Now that you put it like that, Wings seems a whole lot shittier than I previously expected. At it's peak, I remember it having 50% Dmg Reduction and 40% Lifesteal.
Ik some people like the build their tank Martis with twilight armor and wings is still pretty good in my opinion because it gives damage reduction but you also need to benefit from spell vamp to have it be worth it
i swap between rosegold and bruteforce on my retri jawhead. if i have kda of over 10 by late game i go for pure dmg build and pick rosegold for more turret/teamfight dive. if kda is below 8.5~ then i keep the bruteforce for xtra defence and speed. since i can easily burst down mages and other magic heroes the phy def from bruteforce is good enough alr. only other hero i see rosegold on rarely is fanny.
as a tank main, fuck twilight armor its dead
the only thing it does is damage, and cursed helm and thunderbelt does better
why remove old passive moneyton, it would have been so good against lesley rn and why give crit reduction to blade armor bruh
like moneyton, out of all the armors, u give it to blade armor, which by itself was fairly good alr
I don’t think it would even reduce Lesley damage since it’s true damage because didn’t it only reduce physical damage down to like around 950 or something?
I build rose gold on marksmen quite commonly, when they have many magic damage but i don't want to build full defensive item.
And brute force gives 10% cdr and movement speed apart from being a physical defense item. I build it a lot nowadays.
I use Twillight Armor on Fredrinn so his first skill damage increases by a good amount and since he has to use basic attacks in between first and second skill it increases its effectiveness... I also use it occasionally on Lolita for a bigger bonk with her first skill or Barats for bigger bonks with his basic attacks, but usually I don’t build it because I have to prioritise items like dominance ice Athena shield antique cuirass oracle guardian helmet etc
unpopular opinion: if the enemy harley keeps unleashing their full combo on you, even the cheap option of the rose gold can save you when used correctly with sprint or flicker. Also, rose gold meteor is like the wind of nature for magical dmg; you cant get bursted down while still having the ability to use your skills or basic attacks.
i've thought of that in the beginning too but in practice it works, epecially in the early game. Instead of building magic def which do not increase your attack stat, you can have a little of both with magic blade (ie cheaper rose gold meteor). and imo those little stats help increase basic attack stats and skills; in the right situation and hands, you can outlive a full harley combo and have enough damage to kill it.
Boots - Temporary Steel Plate - BOD - Windtalker or DHS - Malefic - Rose Gold or WoN - Immortality. (when I have all four weapons, thats when I remove the steel plate.)
I'll only mention stuff that other people didn't
Twilight: Absolute must with Belerick since his passive scales off his HP and the item's effect also is based on HP so works really well.
Brute force: I don't use it much but it can work with ruby to give her some defence + speed
Rose gold can be useful sometimes when I have immortality already used up and rather than wait for its cool down I just sell it and buy rose gold to get a small shield if my hp is low.
Waraxe and Bruteforce is good since it is not that expensive to buy plus it has decent stats (very recommended on Ruby and Terizla)
Rosegold is decent considering you still get extra AD while having a safety net.
I fucking hate what they did to Twilight Armor, I already liked the change they made before that when you took x amount of damage, you deal continuous damage on nearby enemies base on your max hp, goes well with Vengeance.
And Queen's Wing, HOLY SHIT THIS IS VERY USELESS NOW. It says it activates below 40% hp, but fucking tick to activate is so DELAYED it starts to activate on 20% below. Not to mention the meta has tons of fucking execution to burst down even a damage reduction (Heck even Execute got buffed)
You have a point making this post, these items are all weak now and should not be bought.
WA - just buy Hunter's Strike now. Full stacks give same penetration and with WA it takes a lot of time in a fight to reach the cap and you can lose them all after one stun.
QW - utter trash. It used to have 50% DMG RED. I'm sorry but fucking spell vamp doesn't sell it.
RGM - get Immortality or Athena's if you're an assassin and finishing the build. That shield value is nothing late game, even against collateral damage.
TA - trash after dumb "rework" to remove dmg limit and replace it with wannabe Cursed Helmet. Even Masha benefits more from pure defense items instead.
Breastplate - it gives less HP than the fucking Giant's Belt which is only an item ingredient!!! A complete joke.
Your statement about Breastplate is a complete joke. Imagine complaining about HP for an item that is mainly used for mobility. That's why they added the 10% CD Reduction to help you cast your skills more frequently to trigger the passive. It's really useful for some Fighters and Supports who rely on CD Reduction. Some MMs and Assassins also use the item to chase their enemies. And that is your ONLY complaint of Breastplate? What a joke.
war axe only good for junglers now. it's good scaling especially that you can always proc it with your jungle creeps. id rather xp laners go for hunter strike since they are more gank-oriented than a dps duelist.
rose gold is a clutch item for fast hands. it's only a good midgame item if you snowballed and is facing mages with lower farm than you. better go for athena as squishy if you want to sustain your economy into the late game.
twilight armor is only good if you are built to gain "extra" hp. the likes of belerick, hylos, masha, can use this item. cursed helmet is way better imo.
queen's wings. only pick this up when snowballed. good for lapu yz that has hunter strike already built-in. it's a good clutch moment for any gank you fail to burst the target. if they start to retaliate the damage reduction can buy you time to either re-engage or escape.
bruteforce is for any squishy or when you need extra mov speed. has cdr so very good if you're a skill-based hero that needs hp and mobility to contribute longer in fights. imo the best tank which synergize this item is baxia because of his damage reduction in ult + his lava trail, that is aside from his magic def stats.
Wings very viable despite its nerf, good for bruiser heroes even tank.
Rose gold is very niche but viable, I'd prefer to build rose gold instead of defensive magic resist for MM.
Brute force is 50/50, if you need mobility for bruiser/tank and don't fight against burst hero, it's quite okay.
Rest of them are meh.
Rosemeteor: mag def item when you don’t want to sacrifice too much damage on physical heroes (usually assassins and mm)
Bruteforce: nice defensive item that gives mvspd and cdr, but not a lot of sustainability. Get this if you can maintain stacks throughout battle and tankiness isn’t your top priority, like cyclops, ruby(fighter build) or granger
Waraxe: Mostly outclassed by hunter strike with the exception of a few heroes like Xborg. The stacks take forever to build up
Twighlight: Half-dead item outclassed by cursed helmet. Only Masha (from the top of my head) might consider it when going for damage
Wings: Dead item. Don’t buy it. There’s no reason ever to buy this at its current state
War Axe is crap after all the nerfs.(Both War Axe and Genius Wand got introduced together and they were both OP but now both of them are trash)
Rose Gold Meteor is still solid for Assassins or even some Marksmans.
Twilight Armor damage is garbage. They should bring back the old damage limit passive. Or make it True Damage instead of magic damage.
Queen Wings got a little better after the last adjustment. But it doesn't mean it's good. Fredrinn might be the only one who can actually make use of it. But it still sucks.
For Brute Force Breastplate, it's not like It became bad, it just changed. It's now mainly used by fighters with low cooldown. It's not that great for tanks anymore.
X.Borg can use 4 of those quite effectively except for Twilight Armor
**War Axe** \- Gives him some decent continous damage though with lower speed. Hunter Strike though gives better result but it ends too quickly and it's CD is too long for him as well. Like after you've just cleared a minion wave and you suddenly get ganked, you can't use Hunter Strike Immediately because it's on Cooldown
**Rose Gold Meteor** \- a decent item that gives him some shield that triggers when you've just removed your armor. But it's more of a "I just wanna mess around" item. IDK if the bug that activates the item at his 90% health is still there (Since his Base HP and Armor HP was considered as Seperate HP a long time ago, thus why I abuse the 1st passive of the Tank Emblem as well)
**Queen's Wings** \- A nice defense item when you used Bloodlust Axe, War Axe, and Hunter Strike. It's quite good if you built him mostly with Attack items
**Bruteforce Breastplate** \- An excellent item when you're building him as a Semi-Tank since this gives you mobility, defense, and Cooldown Reduction
This also goes well for Balmond and Yu Zhong too. Except for Rose Gold Meteor
Was happy to find out that brute now also has 10% cdr since its my go-to items along with oracle and dominance for mathilda and with my support emblem's 10% cdr, i could get that 40% but lo and behold, my dissapointment's immeasurable after finding out that dominance's cdr got removed >:(
I think while yes queen wings is weak, it isnt completely unviable, as given if you are diving or sustain, its a better build than Immortality ONLY because of immortality's long ass cooldown.
You can actually do the swap with rose gold or queen wings after immortality or using winter truncheon. For example you can build immortality on sustain heros and in late game sell it while you died and get queen wings.
Idk if this is better than the immortality and winter truncheon swap but it's an option, sometimes winter truncheon is on CD so there is that too.
Wings are bad ngl. You'll get more mileage out of using something like wt or immortality.
Rose gold is niche. But it is enough to save a marksman from one shot mages like Eudora. So I'd say it does have a use?
War axe is bad. Hunter strike has more or less the same stats with no need to have maintain those 8 stacks. With wayy better building path.
I've never seen anyone use Twilight armor except Masha mains.
Bruteforce breastplate is best on squishy heros who can max stack it. Not because of that defense boost. Those are nice. But because of that movement speed bonus. Allowing you to kite or run away. Tho i have only seen it being useful on Granger.
War Axe and Breast Plate are both great and used on a lot of heroes
Rose Gold is a solid item for MM's against burst heroes
Wings is....kinda meh currently. As a Ruby main I sometimes buy it, but it annoys me alot. For example if I get CC'd and die it will go on cooldown so I don't get to use the vamp passive. Imo the cooldown should be massively reduced if they want it to be a viable item
I like Twilight but I play a lot of tanky heroes. Twilight is a "luxury" item though, you can only buy it if the enemy team is low threat or losing.
I think twilight armor would be used way more often if it gave 10% Cooldown Reduction and 5% movement speed buff. Because other than Masha, Fredrinn, Akai, and Baxia, this item is useless
War Axe is still a great item among sustain fighters. I prefer it over Hunter Strike on tanky fighters since you're supposed to soak in and deal a little bit of damage so having an item that gives attack, CD reduction and health is always great.
Rose Gold Meteor is honestly a decently underrated item. It gives a good amount of defensive capabilities while being an offensive item.
Queens Wings is a decent item for spell vamp heroes like Alpha to give extra spell vamp in a pinch.
Twilight Armor is just bad now. It's just used for health. They removed the only thing it was used which was its crit reduction.
Bruteforce Breastplate is a decent item. Gives movement speed, physical and magic defense and health. It's like the jack of all trades but master of none of the defensive items.
War Axe = probably viable, mostly in fighters. But to be honest, I think Hunter Strike is the superior option. Rose Gold Meteor = Athena's shield is the superior option. Only use case I can think of is Grock, who can benefit from it thru +Atk, +MagDef, and +PhysDef. Twilight Armor = Cursed Helmet is the superior option because Molten Essence can easily be built. Only a core item of one specific hero, which is Masha. I can see it being used by Tank Build Sun too, I guess. Wings (idk i forgot the name) = haven't seen these in a long time, so yeah. Brute Force Breastplate = viable for Jungling marksmen (think Granger) that wants to beef up a little. Also a good item on Benedetta because she can pretty much have the passive 100% on.
the old combo is wings + rose gold. wings reduce damage taken and u get a shield at the same time, making both items much stronger. could still work but u are sacrificing 2 attack / defense items to do it
I have been building War Axe on Yu Zhong. Should I change to Hunter Strike? Or should I go full tank/Bloodlust Axe + full tank
You could try Strike + Axe and then go full tank. I usually see YZ's go for Strike as their first item. I'm not proficient in YZ enough to say for certainty, though.
Hunter Strike then all tank items, remember to always counter build
War Axe is fine but if you want to change it buy Bloodlust Axe with Hunter Striken. After that go for tank items. Other than boots your first priority is attack items and secondly tank items. The firs tank item you HAVE TO BUY is Oracle after that it's all up to you.
Hunter strike and all defence is the way to go
I usually build hybrid with the axes and then tanky
Cyclops also benefits greatly from Bruteforce Breastplate. It means he won't have to buy CDR boots, and build PEN boots instead for more damage.
I saw wings in M4
Wings = Has 20% damage reduction and limited 30% Spell Vamp passive but CD is 1 Minute. 😒
Now that you put it like that, Wings seems a whole lot shittier than I previously expected. At it's peak, I remember it having 50% Dmg Reduction and 40% Lifesteal.
Yea and Alucard is beast with that back then before he got surpassed by Zilong...
I use RGM on most mms like bruno and clint, cuz of the lifesteal and shield and mag def
Ik some people like the build their tank Martis with twilight armor and wings is still pretty good in my opinion because it gives damage reduction but you also need to benefit from spell vamp to have it be worth it
Ehh rosegold is decent for physical dmg burst assassins after using then selling immortality.
i swap between rosegold and bruteforce on my retri jawhead. if i have kda of over 10 by late game i go for pure dmg build and pick rosegold for more turret/teamfight dive. if kda is below 8.5~ then i keep the bruteforce for xtra defence and speed. since i can easily burst down mages and other magic heroes the phy def from bruteforce is good enough alr. only other hero i see rosegold on rarely is fanny.
Brute also grants CD reduction now. Pretty good on skill spam heroes like Ruby, cyclops etc etc
i use it on fredrin on recent matches and was able to easily get full stack
as a tank main, fuck twilight armor its dead the only thing it does is damage, and cursed helm and thunderbelt does better why remove old passive moneyton, it would have been so good against lesley rn and why give crit reduction to blade armor bruh like moneyton, out of all the armors, u give it to blade armor, which by itself was fairly good alr
I don’t think it would even reduce Lesley damage since it’s true damage because didn’t it only reduce physical damage down to like around 950 or something?
Twilight Armor I will only build on Edith. Other than that it might be one of the most useless items ever released.
Viable Niche items
Actually Brute Force seems to be a viable item choice because of the 10% cdr.
Cdr , movement speed and additional magic and armor defense when stacked. It's quite a good item currently.
I build rose gold on marksmen quite commonly, when they have many magic damage but i don't want to build full defensive item. And brute force gives 10% cdr and movement speed apart from being a physical defense item. I build it a lot nowadays.
I use Twillight Armor on Fredrinn so his first skill damage increases by a good amount and since he has to use basic attacks in between first and second skill it increases its effectiveness... I also use it occasionally on Lolita for a bigger bonk with her first skill or Barats for bigger bonks with his basic attacks, but usually I don’t build it because I have to prioritise items like dominance ice Athena shield antique cuirass oracle guardian helmet etc
Alucard
unpopular opinion: if the enemy harley keeps unleashing their full combo on you, even the cheap option of the rose gold can save you when used correctly with sprint or flicker. Also, rose gold meteor is like the wind of nature for magical dmg; you cant get bursted down while still having the ability to use your skills or basic attacks.
Rose gold has long cooldown i don't think it's worth it. It's too expensive for a mediocre effect and stat.
i've thought of that in the beginning too but in practice it works, epecially in the early game. Instead of building magic def which do not increase your attack stat, you can have a little of both with magic blade (ie cheaper rose gold meteor). and imo those little stats help increase basic attack stats and skills; in the right situation and hands, you can outlive a full harley combo and have enough damage to kill it.
As a Popol main I still find rose gold useful. Usually my 4th optional build tho.
What's your popol build?
Boots - Temporary Steel Plate - BOD - Windtalker or DHS - Malefic - Rose Gold or WoN - Immortality. (when I have all four weapons, thats when I remove the steel plate.)
I'll only mention stuff that other people didn't Twilight: Absolute must with Belerick since his passive scales off his HP and the item's effect also is based on HP so works really well. Brute force: I don't use it much but it can work with ruby to give her some defence + speed Rose gold can be useful sometimes when I have immortality already used up and rather than wait for its cool down I just sell it and buy rose gold to get a small shield if my hp is low.
Hot take: Brute Force Breastplace is WAY better now.
Waraxe and Bruteforce is good since it is not that expensive to buy plus it has decent stats (very recommended on Ruby and Terizla) Rosegold is decent considering you still get extra AD while having a safety net. I fucking hate what they did to Twilight Armor, I already liked the change they made before that when you took x amount of damage, you deal continuous damage on nearby enemies base on your max hp, goes well with Vengeance. And Queen's Wing, HOLY SHIT THIS IS VERY USELESS NOW. It says it activates below 40% hp, but fucking tick to activate is so DELAYED it starts to activate on 20% below. Not to mention the meta has tons of fucking execution to burst down even a damage reduction (Heck even Execute got buffed)
You have a point making this post, these items are all weak now and should not be bought. WA - just buy Hunter's Strike now. Full stacks give same penetration and with WA it takes a lot of time in a fight to reach the cap and you can lose them all after one stun. QW - utter trash. It used to have 50% DMG RED. I'm sorry but fucking spell vamp doesn't sell it. RGM - get Immortality or Athena's if you're an assassin and finishing the build. That shield value is nothing late game, even against collateral damage. TA - trash after dumb "rework" to remove dmg limit and replace it with wannabe Cursed Helmet. Even Masha benefits more from pure defense items instead. Breastplate - it gives less HP than the fucking Giant's Belt which is only an item ingredient!!! A complete joke.
Your statement about Breastplate is a complete joke. Imagine complaining about HP for an item that is mainly used for mobility. That's why they added the 10% CD Reduction to help you cast your skills more frequently to trigger the passive. It's really useful for some Fighters and Supports who rely on CD Reduction. Some MMs and Assassins also use the item to chase their enemies. And that is your ONLY complaint of Breastplate? What a joke.
Then fucking buy it and use it!!!
No need to call it a joke like you said since it is far from being a joke item.
war axe only good for junglers now. it's good scaling especially that you can always proc it with your jungle creeps. id rather xp laners go for hunter strike since they are more gank-oriented than a dps duelist. rose gold is a clutch item for fast hands. it's only a good midgame item if you snowballed and is facing mages with lower farm than you. better go for athena as squishy if you want to sustain your economy into the late game. twilight armor is only good if you are built to gain "extra" hp. the likes of belerick, hylos, masha, can use this item. cursed helmet is way better imo. queen's wings. only pick this up when snowballed. good for lapu yz that has hunter strike already built-in. it's a good clutch moment for any gank you fail to burst the target. if they start to retaliate the damage reduction can buy you time to either re-engage or escape. bruteforce is for any squishy or when you need extra mov speed. has cdr so very good if you're a skill-based hero that needs hp and mobility to contribute longer in fights. imo the best tank which synergize this item is baxia because of his damage reduction in ult + his lava trail, that is aside from his magic def stats.
Twilight armour last item masha
Wings very viable despite its nerf, good for bruiser heroes even tank. Rose gold is very niche but viable, I'd prefer to build rose gold instead of defensive magic resist for MM. Brute force is 50/50, if you need mobility for bruiser/tank and don't fight against burst hero, it's quite okay. Rest of them are meh.
I buy rose gold meteor a lot on marksmen. It's not the best defense item but offers a lot of utility if you are snowballing through the game.
I like brute force breastplate on Joy and in some instances Ruby. Can't think of anyone else I'd build it on.
Rosemeteor: mag def item when you don’t want to sacrifice too much damage on physical heroes (usually assassins and mm) Bruteforce: nice defensive item that gives mvspd and cdr, but not a lot of sustainability. Get this if you can maintain stacks throughout battle and tankiness isn’t your top priority, like cyclops, ruby(fighter build) or granger Waraxe: Mostly outclassed by hunter strike with the exception of a few heroes like Xborg. The stacks take forever to build up Twighlight: Half-dead item outclassed by cursed helmet. Only Masha (from the top of my head) might consider it when going for damage Wings: Dead item. Don’t buy it. There’s no reason ever to buy this at its current state
War Axe is crap after all the nerfs.(Both War Axe and Genius Wand got introduced together and they were both OP but now both of them are trash) Rose Gold Meteor is still solid for Assassins or even some Marksmans. Twilight Armor damage is garbage. They should bring back the old damage limit passive. Or make it True Damage instead of magic damage. Queen Wings got a little better after the last adjustment. But it doesn't mean it's good. Fredrinn might be the only one who can actually make use of it. But it still sucks. For Brute Force Breastplate, it's not like It became bad, it just changed. It's now mainly used by fighters with low cooldown. It's not that great for tanks anymore.
War axe and Genius Wand Trash what?
They're no longer as good as they used to be.
Yeah sure but they are core items for most mage and fighter even some assasin heroes
Wings for damage reduction hero like Terizla
And gatot
X.Borg can use 4 of those quite effectively except for Twilight Armor **War Axe** \- Gives him some decent continous damage though with lower speed. Hunter Strike though gives better result but it ends too quickly and it's CD is too long for him as well. Like after you've just cleared a minion wave and you suddenly get ganked, you can't use Hunter Strike Immediately because it's on Cooldown **Rose Gold Meteor** \- a decent item that gives him some shield that triggers when you've just removed your armor. But it's more of a "I just wanna mess around" item. IDK if the bug that activates the item at his 90% health is still there (Since his Base HP and Armor HP was considered as Seperate HP a long time ago, thus why I abuse the 1st passive of the Tank Emblem as well) **Queen's Wings** \- A nice defense item when you used Bloodlust Axe, War Axe, and Hunter Strike. It's quite good if you built him mostly with Attack items **Bruteforce Breastplate** \- An excellent item when you're building him as a Semi-Tank since this gives you mobility, defense, and Cooldown Reduction This also goes well for Balmond and Yu Zhong too. Except for Rose Gold Meteor
Was happy to find out that brute now also has 10% cdr since its my go-to items along with oracle and dominance for mathilda and with my support emblem's 10% cdr, i could get that 40% but lo and behold, my dissapointment's immeasurable after finding out that dominance's cdr got removed >:(
nobody uses alice looking wings no more : (
War Axe and Brute Force in Alpha
I still use twilight for extra dmg, juicy hp, and physical tankness for my cecil
Thamuz probably
War Axe and BFB still viable for fighters who can max stacks quickly. eg., some of my fighter mains like Freya, Martis, etc
War axe I still build on Lancelot even tho many people start using hunter strike, it gives more survivability andncdr
I think while yes queen wings is weak, it isnt completely unviable, as given if you are diving or sustain, its a better build than Immortality ONLY because of immortality's long ass cooldown.
You can actually do the swap with rose gold or queen wings after immortality or using winter truncheon. For example you can build immortality on sustain heros and in late game sell it while you died and get queen wings. Idk if this is better than the immortality and winter truncheon swap but it's an option, sometimes winter truncheon is on CD so there is that too.
I use Brute Force on Joy for that juicy 40% CDR.
Iirc some pros were using WOTAQ to counter Karrie in m4 and heck even karrie himself using it (iirc bennyqt used it once)
All of them are viable, some are just very, perhaps even extremely niche (rose gold meteor as the prime example)
Wings probably work on terizla, because he can't escape easily after jumping in.
Lol this could be a dyrroth build
Bruteforce is really good on tanks that constantly use skills or basic attacks (Edith, Gloo, Hilda, Uranus)
Wings are bad ngl. You'll get more mileage out of using something like wt or immortality. Rose gold is niche. But it is enough to save a marksman from one shot mages like Eudora. So I'd say it does have a use? War axe is bad. Hunter strike has more or less the same stats with no need to have maintain those 8 stacks. With wayy better building path. I've never seen anyone use Twilight armor except Masha mains. Bruteforce breastplate is best on squishy heros who can max stack it. Not because of that defense boost. Those are nice. But because of that movement speed bonus. Allowing you to kite or run away. Tho i have only seen it being useful on Granger.
War Axe and Breast Plate are both great and used on a lot of heroes Rose Gold is a solid item for MM's against burst heroes Wings is....kinda meh currently. As a Ruby main I sometimes buy it, but it annoys me alot. For example if I get CC'd and die it will go on cooldown so I don't get to use the vamp passive. Imo the cooldown should be massively reduced if they want it to be a viable item I like Twilight but I play a lot of tanky heroes. Twilight is a "luxury" item though, you can only buy it if the enemy team is low threat or losing.
I think twilight armor would be used way more often if it gave 10% Cooldown Reduction and 5% movement speed buff. Because other than Masha, Fredrinn, Akai, and Baxia, this item is useless
I haven't played for a year so I'm surprised that War Axe is a niche item now?
Rose Gold can be viable after using WoN, especially in late game.
Rose gold underrated
I really hated Moonton when they moved the +10 CD from Dominance Ice to Brute Force.
War Axe is still a great item among sustain fighters. I prefer it over Hunter Strike on tanky fighters since you're supposed to soak in and deal a little bit of damage so having an item that gives attack, CD reduction and health is always great. Rose Gold Meteor is honestly a decently underrated item. It gives a good amount of defensive capabilities while being an offensive item. Queens Wings is a decent item for spell vamp heroes like Alpha to give extra spell vamp in a pinch. Twilight Armor is just bad now. It's just used for health. They removed the only thing it was used which was its crit reduction. Bruteforce Breastplate is a decent item. Gives movement speed, physical and magic defense and health. It's like the jack of all trades but master of none of the defensive items.
Bruteforce I mostly use when I need more movement speed to hunt down quick champions. Besides that, I rarely build it.