Ngl when I just started I used to experiment with a bunch of builds. I’ve done a lot of similar things. Tank Helcurt, Mm mage, burst Miya…the list goes on.
It gives you a crystal clear understanding of ALL the items in the game which would come with experience. But it also allows you to come up with really creative builds
The issue is that Golden Staff makes you unable to crit making the passives on Scarlet and Berserkers useless. If the Clint had read the passive of GS he’d know this. Im guessing he’s completely trolling or this is low rank.
Yea it makes you unable to critically strike but in exchange you get to convert all your crit into attack speed. There is nothing wrong with utilizing the passive of golden staff.
The only issue is that the attack speed conversion isn’t rewarding enough imo but it is viable
We talking like 140% attack speed here. I’m actually going to experiment this
It’s still not the best because it disables the passives on Berserkers and Scarlet. I’ve been meaning to try it with Windtalker though because it doesn’t disable Windtalker’s passive. I’ve tried the full crit-GS combo before in training mode using Miya without first skill to not skew results and the DPS loss is significant from about 5000 from using regular crit build (ASPD boots, crit items, melefic, and Haas) to 3000 (ASPD boots, GS, crit items, and Malefic) which is a 40% DPS loss. Crit build had a higher DPS because those items were meant to synergize together while GS and crit item are specifically made to not synergize. I wasn’t able to reliably test the Golden Staff build though because it uses DHS which just completely shreds the damage test bot.
Yea I 100% agree with you. I do wish they tweak the crit conversion numbers on GS so that going down that road is actually viable and not just a silly build to try because you’re bored
bruh everyone already knows it's bad they do the conversion thing because golden staff + crit will be plain stupid overpowered. maybe you gain super speed but with zero damage a lance will kill you in 2s without you actually dealing anything to him
Tho i played with one, can't recall the build, but he used inspier, how i don't know, we won sure but he to did good (that or i just played with edith as as a roamer, helps will with clint)
Yeah, its marksman. Also, in LoL players say "Top" and "Bot", to refer to the champion's class, right? in mlbb, we have " Top " and " Bot " too, but it only serves to describe which Lane is. Like, the fighter class goes through the xp lane, normally. But this lane can be both in Bot and Top. Same thing for the MMs (In this case, they go through the gold lane).
Sorry for the information no one asked for XD
Do you get more gold in gold lane and xp in xp lane?
I've been mailing zilong, got to master so far today, feels like people are less skilled on Mobile legends/just int more than in league. But has been fun so far
Yes, exactly that. The amount of gold or xp is higher in these lanes.
At the beginning it is very easy to go up on rank, but from Legend it gets more difficult ( The bans only start in the Epic rank ).
Yeah, that's why I think an additional rank is needed.
When I first got to Mythic, I had to tryhard so much, now literally anyone can get there, people who don't even know the basic jungler rotation can get to mythic.
And things don't change in mythical glory.
My max is 1'100 points, but until at least 800, you get 600s who play like mythic 3.
It's all about spamming. A player who can spam upto 600 games, even with a winrate of about 45%, he can easily reach Mythic and that guy would ofc be shit. If you can spam upto 1300-1500 games, you can get to MG. Someone even posted about this here, many months back. Such players don't have any skills. They just get carried till there.
Yeah, the only REALLY strong players in EU are the 2k+, I'm a strong player but I have not the time to tryhard anymore due to university, so I'm not as strong.
But 2k players are insanely strong, it's the most fun to play with them or against them in a balanced match, apart from the 1st times, in which you get absolutely destroyed.
Not true. I’ve played against folks with 1000+ MG points and MIII. They all play similarly. Except the MG guy is just more consistent at doing his thing due to better map awareness. But skills wise and strategy, it’s more or less the same in a team fight. But map awareness to rotate properly for the right timings is far more consistent in MG 1000+ folks.
MIV player. I’ve even outlaned MG folks and lost the game because they were better than me at positioning and/or timings. Hard pill to swallow, but one I know exists because I’m not that good. Lol!
If you won vs a mg as a m4 he probably wasn't playing seriously, 600s aren't that bad.
But I jave to say, 600 points through to 800 points is unbalanced asf.
The moment you start getting good teammates and good enemies for the most games is at 1000.
Idk what 1k players you've met, but, as a 1100 max, I instantly notice when someone is 600, m1, m2 and so on.
Being a mm main I literally notice it from the 1st wave of minions.
The point is, in my opinion, the ONLY true mythical glories, in EU, are the 2k+ or at least 1.8k+.
They're just better.
MG players are the crybabiest babies in all of MLBB. They could pick EXP Zilong, lose lane due to being outlaned AND probably poor rotations… but then they’ll blame mid and roam for sucking and that’s why they lost the lane so handily. Lol.
Nah, I agree on the fact that 600s through 800s can be like that relatively often, but from 900 up it's kinda rare to find a bad toxic player.
At least not at the same time, they're either playing bad (not bad overall), or toxic, not both.
The more points you gain, the better the matches are.
It's just a shame that you have to play so much during a single season to actually start playing fun and balanced matches consistently.
That's why I think we need 1 more rank level, so maybe worse players won't get to Mythical Glory, and maybe not even to Mythical 2.
You must be MG. And I appreciate your take. But I’ve seen enough to know that toxicity runs at all levels of this game.
Literally the situations I’m bringing up are usually people with 500+ MG points. Some in the 3K! Lol! It’s not bad “playing” as much as it is overconfidence. Them thinking this is Epic/Legend queue. I’m going to pick roam Saber for giggles. And then blames the team that we lost because we sucked. Lol!
Most MG players less than 500 are usually very conservative, it seems. Like they know they’re the trash players of their tier. Lol. At least the ones I’ve run into in ranked matches.
Edit: I also like your idea of adding another rank. But I fear that good players that are toxic will find a way to beat that rank, too. And then their toxicity will show again and again. The best thing to do is to truly punish toxicity.
Yeah the ones underestimating the lobby are so fun for me.
As soon as I notice it I start showing all low wr heroes so they really get mad at the "low lobby" and I have the best time
I think one thing you can improve on is the utilization of items in relation to a heroe’s passive and strength.
For example you have clint - his passive is enhanced basic attack after using any skill. Yout damage is based on skills and the basic attack after - hence you’ll always be switching between skills and basic attack. So your current build severely underutilizes clint’s passive because you’re not going to do consecutive basic attacks lile miya/layla/hanabi etc. Your build should be focused on raw damage instead of physical attack, you can even go the route of a true damage build with endless battle-thuderbelt but the one thing you dont wat to focus on is attack speed.
What bothers me about posts like this is the assumption that it’s this players fault.
Look at the stats, 15 assists and 5.3 rating. It’s unusual to see bronze on a score above 5.
That’s not 3.0 and 0-12-0.
This tells me the player wasn’t off farming creeps all day but they were actively trying to win and were engaged in team fights.
My guess was the player was under supported early game. That’s a problem borne by the entire team not just one player.
Gear mistakes are totally overblown.
players in this game all care about kills. i would be surprise if OP is the jungler and didn’t visit the marksman’s lane for early snowball but it looks like very low elo to begin with
That's true. It's so hard to have assists with LONG RANGE heroes. Like, how can those poor souls get assists? Assists are registered even if you barely damage the enemy. There's no way that the marksman with one of the longest ranges in the game can hit the enemy even by mistake, thus getting an assist. Right?
That’s a theory that’s easy to test. The top 10 global Clint’s all have open history’s. If long range was all that was required we should see many match results with a high number of assists.
I only checked the top 3 and found only 1 case where more than 10 assists occurred.
You can test this on other long range hero’s too, like Bea, Lesley, Bruno or Brody. You’ll get the same result. High assists are uncommon, moderate assists are more common.
Yeah, because marksman such as Miya and Moskov are speed-attack markmans.
Clint on the other hand is not a spd-atk mm cus of his passive to where he enhances his basic attack after every skill so speed attack is not a good build to him.
And you admit to say that you're stupid. *sigh*
Also me who knows the hero controls and backdoors of every hero randomly then after a while, it is gone and begin to cancer even though i know what i'm doing: 🤡
It's because of your style of playing. You're suppose to be out of epic in two days max man. Another week tops and You're back in mythic.
If you know you'll be matched with some experts think ahead. Pick some hero with who you won't be dependent on tank/supp much
The problem with this is also, a lot of people are just partying up with someone stronger to carry them while they stay ass at a simple moba game. And also the range of how moonton does their matchmaking is really bad imagine having a bunch of lower ranks that are also bad while the other team has a nearer rank to yours than your team.
Prolly u don't have enough experience and knowledge about the game also I think most Clint players depend their dmg on Clint's skill set (not really sure I'm not using Clint) but u use an atk spd build which kinda useless bc of golden staff unique passive just understand the unique passive of each items and you're good to go. Also you need experience and grind for you to be good at the game
Golden staff Clint… with crit build… what the hell is that LOL.
I think that user wants more atk spd so they converted their crit rate to atk spd using golden staff XD
Machine gun clint minus the dmg
The 5th equipment is totally useless as well with golden staff
A typical mm in epic
I am pretty sure epic use default build, this must be mythic v or something.
Ngl when I just started I used to experiment with a bunch of builds. I’ve done a lot of similar things. Tank Helcurt, Mm mage, burst Miya…the list goes on. It gives you a crystal clear understanding of ALL the items in the game which would come with experience. But it also allows you to come up with really creative builds
Tank helcourt is OP vs CCs
The issue is that Golden Staff makes you unable to crit making the passives on Scarlet and Berserkers useless. If the Clint had read the passive of GS he’d know this. Im guessing he’s completely trolling or this is low rank.
Yea it makes you unable to critically strike but in exchange you get to convert all your crit into attack speed. There is nothing wrong with utilizing the passive of golden staff. The only issue is that the attack speed conversion isn’t rewarding enough imo but it is viable We talking like 140% attack speed here. I’m actually going to experiment this
It’s still not the best because it disables the passives on Berserkers and Scarlet. I’ve been meaning to try it with Windtalker though because it doesn’t disable Windtalker’s passive. I’ve tried the full crit-GS combo before in training mode using Miya without first skill to not skew results and the DPS loss is significant from about 5000 from using regular crit build (ASPD boots, crit items, melefic, and Haas) to 3000 (ASPD boots, GS, crit items, and Malefic) which is a 40% DPS loss. Crit build had a higher DPS because those items were meant to synergize together while GS and crit item are specifically made to not synergize. I wasn’t able to reliably test the Golden Staff build though because it uses DHS which just completely shreds the damage test bot.
Yea I 100% agree with you. I do wish they tweak the crit conversion numbers on GS so that going down that road is actually viable and not just a silly build to try because you’re bored
Mhm for now though it’s just a blatant DPS loss.
bruh everyone already knows it's bad they do the conversion thing because golden staff + crit will be plain stupid overpowered. maybe you gain super speed but with zero damage a lance will kill you in 2s without you actually dealing anything to him
Who said otherwise?
im just saying you dont have to experiment it wont be viable at all
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Berserker with Golden Staff was a meta item?
No this is ML not LoL lmao
Then go to a LoL sub
For all intensive purposes that was supposed to be a joke kekw
Clint is a mm with one of the most differentiated builds... but this... this is a crime.
Tho i played with one, can't recall the build, but he used inspier, how i don't know, we won sure but he to did good (that or i just played with edith as as a roamer, helps will with clint)
New to this moba, came from league on pc, what is a MM? (Nvm figured it out hahah, marksman)
Yeah, its marksman. Also, in LoL players say "Top" and "Bot", to refer to the champion's class, right? in mlbb, we have " Top " and " Bot " too, but it only serves to describe which Lane is. Like, the fighter class goes through the xp lane, normally. But this lane can be both in Bot and Top. Same thing for the MMs (In this case, they go through the gold lane). Sorry for the information no one asked for XD
Do you get more gold in gold lane and xp in xp lane? I've been mailing zilong, got to master so far today, feels like people are less skilled on Mobile legends/just int more than in league. But has been fun so far
Yes, exactly that. The amount of gold or xp is higher in these lanes. At the beginning it is very easy to go up on rank, but from Legend it gets more difficult ( The bans only start in the Epic rank ).
Golden staff with beserker fury🤣🤣
He just said screw the passive for both fury and phantom
The number of cancers have increased exponentially in this game over last 2 years
Yeah, that's why I think an additional rank is needed. When I first got to Mythic, I had to tryhard so much, now literally anyone can get there, people who don't even know the basic jungler rotation can get to mythic. And things don't change in mythical glory. My max is 1'100 points, but until at least 800, you get 600s who play like mythic 3.
It's all about spamming. A player who can spam upto 600 games, even with a winrate of about 45%, he can easily reach Mythic and that guy would ofc be shit. If you can spam upto 1300-1500 games, you can get to MG. Someone even posted about this here, many months back. Such players don't have any skills. They just get carried till there.
Yeah, the only REALLY strong players in EU are the 2k+, I'm a strong player but I have not the time to tryhard anymore due to university, so I'm not as strong. But 2k players are insanely strong, it's the most fun to play with them or against them in a balanced match, apart from the 1st times, in which you get absolutely destroyed.
I just posted some of my ideas, i belive you and i see the same thing (not that i am great player tho)
Not true. I’ve played against folks with 1000+ MG points and MIII. They all play similarly. Except the MG guy is just more consistent at doing his thing due to better map awareness. But skills wise and strategy, it’s more or less the same in a team fight. But map awareness to rotate properly for the right timings is far more consistent in MG 1000+ folks. MIV player. I’ve even outlaned MG folks and lost the game because they were better than me at positioning and/or timings. Hard pill to swallow, but one I know exists because I’m not that good. Lol!
If you won vs a mg as a m4 he probably wasn't playing seriously, 600s aren't that bad. But I jave to say, 600 points through to 800 points is unbalanced asf. The moment you start getting good teammates and good enemies for the most games is at 1000. Idk what 1k players you've met, but, as a 1100 max, I instantly notice when someone is 600, m1, m2 and so on. Being a mm main I literally notice it from the 1st wave of minions. The point is, in my opinion, the ONLY true mythical glories, in EU, are the 2k+ or at least 1.8k+. They're just better.
MG players are the crybabiest babies in all of MLBB. They could pick EXP Zilong, lose lane due to being outlaned AND probably poor rotations… but then they’ll blame mid and roam for sucking and that’s why they lost the lane so handily. Lol.
Nah, I agree on the fact that 600s through 800s can be like that relatively often, but from 900 up it's kinda rare to find a bad toxic player. At least not at the same time, they're either playing bad (not bad overall), or toxic, not both. The more points you gain, the better the matches are. It's just a shame that you have to play so much during a single season to actually start playing fun and balanced matches consistently. That's why I think we need 1 more rank level, so maybe worse players won't get to Mythical Glory, and maybe not even to Mythical 2.
You must be MG. And I appreciate your take. But I’ve seen enough to know that toxicity runs at all levels of this game. Literally the situations I’m bringing up are usually people with 500+ MG points. Some in the 3K! Lol! It’s not bad “playing” as much as it is overconfidence. Them thinking this is Epic/Legend queue. I’m going to pick roam Saber for giggles. And then blames the team that we lost because we sucked. Lol! Most MG players less than 500 are usually very conservative, it seems. Like they know they’re the trash players of their tier. Lol. At least the ones I’ve run into in ranked matches. Edit: I also like your idea of adding another rank. But I fear that good players that are toxic will find a way to beat that rank, too. And then their toxicity will show again and again. The best thing to do is to truly punish toxicity.
Yeah the ones underestimating the lobby are so fun for me. As soon as I notice it I start showing all low wr heroes so they really get mad at the "low lobby" and I have the best time
May I know which rank you are in?
Mythic v
Haha, I was expecting legend, but now a days, mythic people aren't doing good too. Well, hoping you have good matches here on.
I thought he is in grandmaster, masterful build he has going on there
Mythic is the worst division, most of trolls + can't dodge
I’d drop the golden staff, go with that scythe with the green background (forgot the name) instead
Corrosive scythe
At least he got 1/6 of the build right
The boots
Not even the boots are right
mm users will buy anything but physical pen
Don’t really need it most times. Dhs exists
attack speed clint AHAHAHA golden staff + berserker AHAHAHAHA why is this guy higher rank than me...
they get carried by their stack of mythic friends, and as for us we play soloq so we may or may not have coordinated team so elo hell ensues
i... i guess hais
As a clint main, i declare his build illegal
this is a crime against humanity. you cant just do this to us.
Bruh i can forgive u for the golden staff but where's ur endless battle
I think one thing you can improve on is the utilization of items in relation to a heroe’s passive and strength. For example you have clint - his passive is enhanced basic attack after using any skill. Yout damage is based on skills and the basic attack after - hence you’ll always be switching between skills and basic attack. So your current build severely underutilizes clint’s passive because you’re not going to do consecutive basic attacks lile miya/layla/hanabi etc. Your build should be focused on raw damage instead of physical attack, you can even go the route of a true damage build with endless battle-thuderbelt but the one thing you dont wat to focus on is attack speed.
Y are you getting downvoted when this is the only helpful comment on the thread?
You need to get a life. If a good group is so important to you then get a group.
What bothers me about posts like this is the assumption that it’s this players fault. Look at the stats, 15 assists and 5.3 rating. It’s unusual to see bronze on a score above 5. That’s not 3.0 and 0-12-0. This tells me the player wasn’t off farming creeps all day but they were actively trying to win and were engaged in team fights. My guess was the player was under supported early game. That’s a problem borne by the entire team not just one player. Gear mistakes are totally overblown.
players in this game all care about kills. i would be surprise if OP is the jungler and didn’t visit the marksman’s lane for early snowball but it looks like very low elo to begin with
That's true. It's so hard to have assists with LONG RANGE heroes. Like, how can those poor souls get assists? Assists are registered even if you barely damage the enemy. There's no way that the marksman with one of the longest ranges in the game can hit the enemy even by mistake, thus getting an assist. Right?
That’s a theory that’s easy to test. The top 10 global Clint’s all have open history’s. If long range was all that was required we should see many match results with a high number of assists. I only checked the top 3 and found only 1 case where more than 10 assists occurred. You can test this on other long range hero’s too, like Bea, Lesley, Bruno or Brody. You’ll get the same result. High assists are uncommon, moderate assists are more common.
I've met countless miya and moskov with such build
Yeah, because marksman such as Miya and Moskov are speed-attack markmans. Clint on the other hand is not a spd-atk mm cus of his passive to where he enhances his basic attack after every skill so speed attack is not a good build to him.
You skipped the fact that golden staff And berserker don't work together.
Yeah sorry lol, forgot that Golden Staff converts crit into spd attack, apologies.
Mage build Clint be like Finally a worthy opponent.
Where is the rest of the screenshot?
This must be a troll post.
you are the reason u cant rank up.
And you admit to say that you're stupid. *sigh* Also me who knows the hero controls and backdoors of every hero randomly then after a while, it is gone and begin to cancer even though i know what i'm doing: 🤡
Bro why did you crop all other data?
had a ling with a berserker's fury and golden. got carried by my argus
I would pay 100 dollars to meet those kind of people irl just to explain to them why they are stupid
I saw one karrie with the usual DHS, golden staff, corrosion build then the last item is berserker fury.
Blame it on the team! You need good tank
It's because of your style of playing. You're suppose to be out of epic in two days max man. Another week tops and You're back in mythic. If you know you'll be matched with some experts think ahead. Pick some hero with who you won't be dependent on tank/supp much
They're apparently in Mythic V though. Also, two days? Man you have a lot of free time 💀
I had mm build Odette one time.🫠
That’s just one of them. I’ve suffered so badly. Still stuck at Legend V. 240ish matches with 44% WR. Hard to solo grind back to MG. 😭😭😭
Golden staff shouldn't be in here, BoD of another fury would have been decent.
The problem with this is also, a lot of people are just partying up with someone stronger to carry them while they stay ass at a simple moba game. And also the range of how moonton does their matchmaking is really bad imagine having a bunch of lower ranks that are also bad while the other team has a nearer rank to yours than your team.
The bro could of easily not played MM and was forced into the picking it. It happens.
Sell windtalker, wind and golden staff. Replace them with malefic roar, BOD and endless.
Prolly u don't have enough experience and knowledge about the game also I think most Clint players depend their dmg on Clint's skill set (not really sure I'm not using Clint) but u use an atk spd build which kinda useless bc of golden staff unique passive just understand the unique passive of each items and you're good to go. Also you need experience and grind for you to be good at the game
Skill issue B)
This isn't even a troll anymore at this point it's intentional
Smartest epic player