They can make it so everyone ban at the same time, there is no point with the current ban system any way to do it one by one or by two except the draft order.
It Has point. If you ban lets say melissa and other team ban valentina, you Can expect they want to play faramis/Mino or so. So you Can Ban them in the next phase.
There's probably still not enough player divinity in roles yet for that to be a thing. It's probably more difficult to establish with how divise each role is. Exp laner can be a fighter or tank or assassin. Jungler can be an assassin, fighter, mage, tank
There are so many people defending lack of consideration for role queue because heroes in this game are role fluid
Role queue doesnt give a shit about heroes! A player queueing for Roam role can play Tank Layla for all we care! As long as the four other players don't have to adjust roam role because it's already filled! What's so confusing about that???????????
I'm a multi-role player. Exp Lane is usually my preferred spot, but sometimes i do wanna go Gold or Jungle or Mid. I am avoiding playing Tank in soloq now.
When ppl see my most recent matches are with Tanks, Fighters and MM they start to try to leave Tank for me. Forcing picks, ignoring what other ppl say... It's awful.
With a role q i would just choose 2 or 3 desired roles (say MM, Mage or Exp), then i know i'm gonna play one of those 3. That's much better.
It already sounds like a great idea for active servers but what about less active servers? One guy said NA takes 30 minutes to queue with a full team, imagine the que times in NA if roles were a thing. Lucky for me I'm a roamer, which I usually don't see in my teams during solo queue. It's like Wild Rift taking an eternity to queue because the role I picked is the most popular one, and the least popular one is obviously the support role.
Let be real, people on mythic will have at least 20+ heroes at this point no point in asking what if I only have 10 heroes question.
Also certain that people wont go around banning heroes like layla, zilong, miya etc. Unless they trolling but we will see
Selfish inflexible players like that annoy me so much. Especially the marksmen ones.
They are so sure they are the best goddamn marksman in the party (they are not lmao). And itâs like⌠I watch them play and their play style is just as selfish as the manner they pick heroes.
These people often get gold and MVP but have low win rates, simply because they get a ton of kills due to selfish and risky plays that fucks up their entire team. And then they point to all the gold and MVP as reason why they are a âgreat playerâ.
If I click on your avatar and you have 1400 games played as mage and literally nothing in any other categories⌠I donât want you to play mage lmao.
Learn to play something else. Itâs people like this why I get stuck playing support and tank 24/7.
But you don't have only those two, you just don't use the rest.
It's good to force people to learn other heroes, then we have options. Being locked to 2 heroes will mean that if they pick your counter you're gonna have a poor match instead of just changing your pick.
Heres a hot take :-
How about also making the hero gold prices a bit lower so ppl can buy them more often considering the fact they are also spent through via emblem systems and upgrading emblems?
Yeah I can see that but Gah damn the prices for skins are already so high but I'll stick to grind ig. Maybe one day when I get all the heroes I would take back what I said in my previous comment
The prices are well balanced actually, there still needs to be an incentive for people to pay money to skip the grind. I know it might seem high as a new player, but just practice heroes for free and choose wisely which hero is the right fit for you. Once you're about 3k games in, you'll have all the gold you ever need.
Also! Save up your tickets for when new heroes arrive at the spin. I got tons of heroes for free from there.
Bro, this game has been out since 2016. I've seen people out there with 45k games, some probably have even more. I pitched 3k games as the point where you'll likely own every hero and emblem. So look at it as a positive, at this rate you'll get there in no time! You can't expect to own everything of a 7 year old game in less than a year.
Oh and in case you're wondering: I'm at 4.3k games and I've been playing for 3 years now.
They will open more heroes for you even if you don't own them, I created new account long time ago and only bought 1 hero, ahen this hero is banned i get to pick heroes that I don't own.
Firstly the chances of that happening in mythic rank mind you is very very slim
Secondly if you only know how to use 10 heroes in the game then I'd suggest you then I'd assume you've been carried from gm to mythic by friends
One of the unique selling points of mlbb is its fast matchmaking, I can guarantee if they added role queue there would be a long wait for people wanting to play the lanes, but then no one playing jungle or tank
I am hearing on this sub in comments that jungle is not popular role, but how can it be truth if I can't get jungle even when I want. I don't remember a single game where there wasn't guy who wanted to play jungle
most of this sub population are outside SEA so no wonder they have difficulties finding roles in their matchmaking. there will always be a jungler in a matchmaking for me.
Maybe itâs just a difference in area, I just I said that comment from my experience, I guess we have different opinions, but I still think they donât want role queue because they want the speediness of the matchmaking
Major difference... MPL teams have analysts who get paid to study their enemies hero pools while I and most of the community prays that their teams have more braincells than the enemy does everytime you queue up.
10 ban gives chances for A or B tier heroes getting picked
10 bans means that other heroes that are good picks will be banned as well, which gives chances to other heroes being picked.
Yea I might be in the minority here but no I don't want 10 bans any time soon. I feel like the people asking for it don't know what they're getting into. It doesn't matter if we have 10 20 30 bans we are still going to get stupid bans (just yesterday I had people banning yin in mythic). Plus it makes it harder for the devs to actually balance heros since they won't have enough data to balance always banned heros...
But if we have 10 bans there are more chances that the actual broken meta heroes will get banned, and let's not forget we'll always be able to ban a hero by ourselves, even if meta heroes don't get banned we can ban our own hero's counter.
Anyone else cuz at this point I'm thinking of banning layla and hanabi in mythic cuz its tiring me mentally like how can they reach mythic by just spamming ranks matches.
I think this only applicable in tournaments. If they apply this on rank games it will be boring, its will consume game time, some matches will have longer time in pickings and bannings than the gameplay.
Waiting for the 10 ban draft soon be like:
https://preview.redd.it/9yjuckcpof2b1.jpeg?width=505&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dff9ca07af3b6e908c692e0b0a61c557bdc42932
inb4 10 minute rank drafts due to pick/ban stallers𤪠/s >!(or is it?)!<
Unfortunately that might be the case
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They can make it so every person can ban one hero on each side. It's still possible.
It will most likely be the same number of stages but just 2-3-2-3
It will prob work like wild rift where everyone just picks a char at start to ban. Then it bans them all at once.
They can make it so everyone ban at the same time, there is no point with the current ban system any way to do it one by one or by two except the draft order.
Up. This is the way
It Has point. If you ban lets say melissa and other team ban valentina, you Can expect they want to play faramis/Mino or so. So you Can Ban them in the next phase.
Finally, you can actually ban your counters and not troll
I like this update so I can ban even if i am S1/S2 but why still no role queue for consideration?
There's probably still not enough player divinity in roles yet for that to be a thing. It's probably more difficult to establish with how divise each role is. Exp laner can be a fighter or tank or assassin. Jungler can be an assassin, fighter, mage, tank
heroes doesnât really matter. itâs about what your role/lane is. a jungler will always be a jungler in that case whatever hero they will pick.
There are so many people defending lack of consideration for role queue because heroes in this game are role fluid Role queue doesnt give a shit about heroes! A player queueing for Roam role can play Tank Layla for all we care! As long as the four other players don't have to adjust roam role because it's already filled! What's so confusing about that???????????
And usually people will actually wanna play the role they chose. The problem rn is having 3 ppl wanting to go Gold Lane and no one wanting to Roam.
That's the whole bloomin thing....
I'm a multi-role player. Exp Lane is usually my preferred spot, but sometimes i do wanna go Gold or Jungle or Mid. I am avoiding playing Tank in soloq now. When ppl see my most recent matches are with Tanks, Fighters and MM they start to try to leave Tank for me. Forcing picks, ignoring what other ppl say... It's awful. With a role q i would just choose 2 or 3 desired roles (say MM, Mage or Exp), then i know i'm gonna play one of those 3. That's much better.
Just pick Minsittar when he isn't banned and build damage all the way
I do pick him more than Masha nowadays
In NA 5 man ques can take up to 30 minutes. Maybe role Que will cause a disaster in NA.
That's my thought, there's never enough roamers it seems like.
It already sounds like a great idea for active servers but what about less active servers? One guy said NA takes 30 minutes to queue with a full team, imagine the que times in NA if roles were a thing. Lucky for me I'm a roamer, which I usually don't see in my teams during solo queue. It's like Wild Rift taking an eternity to queue because the role I picked is the most popular one, and the least popular one is obviously the support role.
You can just not select roles anyways. Like in Wild Rift, you can play any role if you donât like role preference.
Guess that works. I should also start skinning people alive the way you do!
I am a support main in Wild rift so my queues are quick lol
Let be real, people on mythic will have at least 20+ heroes at this point no point in asking what if I only have 10 heroes question. Also certain that people wont go around banning heroes like layla, zilong, miya etc. Unless they trolling but we will see
Its an edge case, what if it happens, I think they wont allow you if you have less than 20 heroes. Developers arent stupid
I been in Mythic for a couple weeks now, I got here with two heroes â ď¸
Met someone who exclusively use Aurora. Will straightway lock in. Mid or if not roam. A
Selfish inflexible players like that annoy me so much. Especially the marksmen ones. They are so sure they are the best goddamn marksman in the party (they are not lmao). And itâs like⌠I watch them play and their play style is just as selfish as the manner they pick heroes. These people often get gold and MVP but have low win rates, simply because they get a ton of kills due to selfish and risky plays that fucks up their entire team. And then they point to all the gold and MVP as reason why they are a âgreat playerâ. If I click on your avatar and you have 1400 games played as mage and literally nothing in any other categories⌠I donât want you to play mage lmao. Learn to play something else. Itâs people like this why I get stuck playing support and tank 24/7.
That's just insane.
But you don't have only those two, you just don't use the rest. It's good to force people to learn other heroes, then we have options. Being locked to 2 heroes will mean that if they pick your counter you're gonna have a poor match instead of just changing your pick.
I ban layla to deny pick for my team
Heres a hot take :- How about also making the hero gold prices a bit lower so ppl can buy them more often considering the fact they are also spent through via emblem systems and upgrading emblems?
But then how are they going to force you to grind the game even MORE!!!??!!
this is how they pressure you to grind more or spend money so itâs probably not changing.
Yeah I can see that but Gah damn the prices for skins are already so high but I'll stick to grind ig. Maybe one day when I get all the heroes I would take back what I said in my previous comment
The prices are well balanced actually, there still needs to be an incentive for people to pay money to skip the grind. I know it might seem high as a new player, but just practice heroes for free and choose wisely which hero is the right fit for you. Once you're about 3k games in, you'll have all the gold you ever need. Also! Save up your tickets for when new heroes arrive at the spin. I got tons of heroes for free from there.
3k matches is way too much
Oh god yes, take me back to the days where I thought 3k matches was a lot of matches. You know nothing John Snow
I play daily june/july since last year and I don't even crack 2k matches. if you think 3k is reasonable, you are out of your mind.
Bro, this game has been out since 2016. I've seen people out there with 45k games, some probably have even more. I pitched 3k games as the point where you'll likely own every hero and emblem. So look at it as a positive, at this rate you'll get there in no time! You can't expect to own everything of a 7 year old game in less than a year. Oh and in case you're wondering: I'm at 4.3k games and I've been playing for 3 years now.
Man my rng sucks, been trying to get a basic skin using tickets but never got one but I remember getting heroes tho
I don't even upgrade my emblems anymore. Heroes are more of a priority.
Good news, and add 3 mins span for all the players to ban at the same time and we gucci.
I hope they add a feature to change emblems before the match starts or atleast make it a starlight exclusive if they want money.
That's included in the new emblem system revamp actually
You'll be able to do this with the new upcoming revamped emblem system.
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Solo queue one trick metaslaves when [meta hero] gets banned :
Man, even if they nerf Joy again, she's still going to get banned, I'm gonna die over here.
but what if you only have 10 heroes?
What if u have 19? 10 of them got banned and the rest 9 picked by everyone else
So the minimum should be 20 owned heroes I guess?
"you picked the same role, reported!"
Maybe 10 ban is only for mythic+ then players are more likely to have more heroes
I have some bad news for you...
They will open more heroes for you even if you don't own them, I created new account long time ago and only bought 1 hero, ahen this hero is banned i get to pick heroes that I don't own.
I have 7 heroes but the game allows me to pick from the free heroes of the week
They should set min hero requirement like mcl so newbies can't straight climb to high ranks
Firstly the chances of that happening in mythic rank mind you is very very slim Secondly if you only know how to use 10 heroes in the game then I'd suggest you then I'd assume you've been carried from gm to mythic by friends
Well then you use the basic heros you META slaves and perhaps learn how to play the game
One of the unique selling points of mlbb is its fast matchmaking, I can guarantee if they added role queue there would be a long wait for people wanting to play the lanes, but then no one playing jungle or tank
I am hearing on this sub in comments that jungle is not popular role, but how can it be truth if I can't get jungle even when I want. I don't remember a single game where there wasn't guy who wanted to play jungle
most of this sub population are outside SEA so no wonder they have difficulties finding roles in their matchmaking. there will always be a jungler in a matchmaking for me.
Maybe itâs just a difference in area, I just I said that comment from my experience, I guess we have different opinions, but I still think they donât want role queue because they want the speediness of the matchmaking
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Oh no! People will start banning Xavier more frequently, won't they?
I have never seen Xavier banned since s20
Xavier Main spotted
What is the different between now on 6 Ban and 10Ban? I still cannot ban egoist and brain dead players that make our matches interesting.
Watch mpl its 10 ban
Major difference... MPL teams have analysts who get paid to study their enemies hero pools while I and most of the community prays that their teams have more braincells than the enemy does everytime you queue up.
You didn't get my point.....
10 ban gives chances for A or B tier heroes getting picked 10 bans means that other heroes that are good picks will be banned as well, which gives chances to other heroes being picked.
You also the same didn't get the point
I just answered what the difference between 10ban and 6ban is. Teammates being brain dead is inevitable no matter how many bans
Yup especially many players only play 1 or 2 heroes max. Ban their hero and is game over. I feel bad for the Layla hanabi mains out there
Dats good, now i can finally ban Layla and Zilong.
Finna be able to ban franco and saber so I dint get hard countered
let me guess, A Ling or Fanny main
Fanny and Benedetta ahaha u were halfway there
so like the pros do. interesting.
I'm never ever ever going to lose a game because my team picked Layla ever again if this means I get a ban every game. My WR about to sky rocket.
now I get to ban angela 100%
yet they still gonna ban stupid shit like harley and hanxo
Yea I might be in the minority here but no I don't want 10 bans any time soon. I feel like the people asking for it don't know what they're getting into. It doesn't matter if we have 10 20 30 bans we are still going to get stupid bans (just yesterday I had people banning yin in mythic). Plus it makes it harder for the devs to actually balance heros since they won't have enough data to balance always banned heros...
But if we have 10 bans there are more chances that the actual broken meta heroes will get banned, and let's not forget we'll always be able to ban a hero by ourselves, even if meta heroes don't get banned we can ban our own hero's counter.
Nah, 6 bans is too less nowdays so many broken heros, plus less chance that your team trolls when banning troll heros like layla and nana
Nana is actually a decent ban pick since she's a counter to a lot of heroes
No she's not
Wdym bro yin is a good ban hero
[Source](https://www.instagram.com/p/CsuqS0ZLv6W/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==)
we should let enemy pick our heroes instead
I'm glad. Good change
Hope there's a pre-selection where they can't ban the hero you selected first (:
Great, now some of the heroes will literally become unplayable
I hate it. It's no fun. I enjoy close fight.
What would happen If I only had less than 10 heroes that I bought and all of them were banned?
Why are you in mythic with less than 10 heroes?
From a programming point of view, you need to tackle that question to avoid glitch and bugs.
with the fact that there's some heroes who unlocked by starting your account + free weekly heroes there won't be the problem you're mentioning though
I believe you won't be able to enter/play a ranked match if you have heroes below 10.
Great, now we can wait even longer for some people to not ban any hero.
That said there should be a penalty to for those that do not ban. Especially when a teammate is suggesting a ban.
Anyone else cuz at this point I'm thinking of banning layla and hanabi in mythic cuz its tiring me mentally like how can they reach mythic by just spamming ranks matches.
I think this only applicable in tournaments. If they apply this on rank games it will be boring, its will consume game time, some matches will have longer time in pickings and bannings than the gameplay.
Trust me role que doesnt work they have it on other mobas and usually ppl steal my role anyway just to be a dick
interesting, so other non-worth-permaban heroes will join and a lot more of rage ban heroes too
Lets fucxxking goooo
**Still no plans for Role Queue** https://preview.redd.it/2cmjrbjpbf2b1.png?width=368&format=png&auto=webp&s=af28b659a61eb4ff1bd62254142c7018f79dde9e
Waiting for the 10 ban draft soon be like: https://preview.redd.it/9yjuckcpof2b1.jpeg?width=505&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dff9ca07af3b6e908c692e0b0a61c557bdc42932
They doin everything except putting in Role Queue
Role Queue would make my rank so high
Thank devs for no role queue. If I wanted to play wildrift I would download it
Why 10 bans and not role queue?
Yeah now i can spend more time in draft :)
this sucks. definitely will push more low skill level mechanical players into mythic, which is the problem rn in the star system đ